Wednesday April 14, 2010, 3:34 pm
Donation Details
Confirmation number:
68R88750TB916615C
Donation amount:
$5.00 USD
Total:
$5.00 USD
Purpose:
Whiskers' Syndicate
Reference:
Help Picassa heal
Contributor:
Eureka L Morrison

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 3:37 pm
I've been blessed with the help of friends during these very trying times. I know you won't mind if I pay a little bit of it forward......

Bless you Josephia for the wonderful work you do. You remind me of Julie v Niekerk here in South Africa who saves the lives of so many woofs. It is a sight to behold seeing Julie with all her woofs. Can just imagine you and all these kitties.

Sending a PURR kissy to your kitties. Thank you for walking your talk!

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 3:41 pm
I put this on Twitter.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 4:06 pm
Thank you so much Ginger. Big hug!

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 4:09 pm
Noted, FB'd & tweeted :)

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 4:11 pm
Thank you Suzanne! Big hug!

At this rate I'll be hugging a lotta folks tonight, uh, I mean morning. It is 01:11AM here in South Africa.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 4:24 pm
I have tried to donate but Paypal has refused the transaction for some reason. Not sure if its because of being in USD and me being in UK.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 4:28 pm
I will send in something when I get paid on Monday. Just sent 60.00 to Winging Cat Rescue last night and am short until pd. Thsnks for posting this. Will repost on my group and NING group.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 4:31 pm


Just a note: You must put a COMMA between the dollar and cents value - then click on UPDATE total, then login to paypal or register.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 4:36 pm
posted to Facebook and Twitter.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 4:40 pm
noted thankyou

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 4:41 pm
Thanks Eureka!

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 4:46 pm
thank-you for posting, I will put the word out to others also for you.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 4:49 pm


Thank you Angela V. Gail D. Rhonda Maness. Annie Cowling.

With all these good vibes and determined noting and XPosting these kitites will be safe!

Big hug all round. And now it is way, way past my bedtime, turned into a pumpkin a long time ago.....

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 4:50 pm


Just a note: You must put a COMMA between the dollar and cents value - then click on UPDATE total, then login to paypal or register.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 4:55 pm
how many animals are at the shelter? is the shelter in distress or is the money for the care of picassa? i always give a little more if the shelter is in danger of closing.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 5:01 pm
I will have to see if I can do it. Definitely will forward now and put on facebook. Thanks Eureka :)

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 5:06 pm
This little PRIVATE shelter is in danger of closing Catherine. The message about helping a specific kitty is just the 'formatted' message in the PayPal thank you link. There has been heavy veterinary expenses - and Josephia just simply can't care for them all anymore out of her own pocket. Indonesia has horrific animal cruelty and virtually no animal welfare laws. Just check out the news story about the poisoning of the dogs in Bali (Indonesia). Every penny here counts. Josephia is a very trusted Care2 member - and she works damn hard to do translations for the various animal groups and does tons of research for email addresses. I gladly gave the little I had. If the vet bills are paid by Care2 members who can afford to give, then her salary can be used to feed the kitties and to buy the cat litter.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 5:07 pm
Thank you so much Tierney! Big hug.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 6:06 pm
i don't doubt josephia is a good person who works hard. i only asked because caring for 100 animals is way different than caring for 10. since resources are limited, it makes sense to give more money to those in charge of more animals. i remember reading about that woman with the broken ankle at share inc. who had over 100 dogs and cats. thank goodness other rescues stepped up. i did a quick check of indonesia and the average monthly income is around $100 usd, so a little really will go a long way here.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 6:08 pm
Noted, thank you!

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 6:39 pm
i logged in first and then put in the amount with a decimal and it worked. no reason there should be a comma if it's in u.s. dollars.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 6:48 pm
I was going to donate $5, but after convincing my husband that this was legitimate, he said donate $10! Hope it helps!

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 7:24 pm
Thank you Catherine Turley and Anne K.

When I donated it kept on telling me the format of the amount is incorrect, and then looking closely I saw that the field example had a comma, so I used a comma instead and then it worked for me. Internet is a very strange 'animal' to say the least.

No, Jospephia is not a 'hoarder'. She has less than 20 kitties, and like Julie van Niekerk from Gauteng Province (far from me) in South Africa who rescues dogs from Kill Shelters etc. this is a labour of love. A huge sacrifice of personal space, time and money. I've spent time with Julie - in person - and I've spent time with Josephia here at Care2 and I've spent time with South Africans who foster animals - while they heal, while they await forever homes. There is a vast difference between hoarding and rescuing. I have several friends here at Care2 who run little private rescue shelters and if I was a millionaire I would help. God bless these caring souls. And God bless those who help them financially and with prayers and encouragement.

We see you dear friends, we see you indeed. We send love now and always.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 7:51 pm
Eureka, I am sending prayers for your friend. I am depending on someone to help me with 2 kitties..that their mom was feral and left them to die...and a dog that someone dumped out as a baby and left to die. Our money situation is very tight. Like you if I was a millionaire....I wouldn't be for long. God bless your friends...and you for making everyone aware of this sad situation.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 8:34 pm
To shelter's owner :

sori cuma bisa bantu share ke fb dan blogku... tapi semoga setiap donasi yg masuk bisa berguna untuk kalian semua yang di shelter ya. Gbu :)

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 8:37 pm
I don't receive my check until the 23rd, so I can't do anything until that time. I will have to remind myself, with so much happening right now. shared on fb, thank you.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 8:58 pm
Translation of Fenny D. post (using google translate)

sorry can only help to fb and share my blog ... but hopefully every incoming donations can be useful for you all that the shelter yes.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 9:01 pm
Confirmation number: 0AM03354L51933100
KC Curry

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 9:05 pm
Thank you everyone for donations for the kitties - and for the pledges to donate. The situation is quite urgent.

Big hug to everyone!

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 9:10 pm
Strange, I had to put a comma in there too. I use paypal all the time and that is a first.

Eureka, I donated $10, but let's try this again and give me some advance notice as I am low on funds at the moment. It would be nice to try again in say May or June, and see if we can raise some real money to help with those surgeries. I don't know if we can raise all of it but it would be fun to try.......

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 9:10 pm
Dear Eureka I`ve tried to donate but can`t find how to. I`m in Mèxico, Is it possible? In the meantime I`ve shared this post with my friends.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 9:18 pm
Confirmation number: 21T05693S6072752B

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 9:40 pm
I know just how she feels as I'm in the same boat - only, I have 34 plus 7 "freeloaders" that come twice a day to my porch for their food - and I have no income anymore at all. All I can do is pray for this kindred spirit and her kitties and bless those that are helping her...

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 9:44 pm
I did`nt know about these kind of sites, something should be on care2. I`m new to computers, only had one for 8 months. I do have a pay pal account though, as I spent the first couple months on ebay, checking stuff out and doing a bit of selling, but got bored with that. anyway sent $40 successfully!
3 or 4 months ago there was a petition to help a homeless woman in Viet Nam who cared for about 12 dogs I think it was, but you were just suppose send money to a bank account and they would get it to her. I didn`t feel comfortable with that, but it was legit, as there was a news article about her. Gee I really wanted to help her!

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 9:47 pm
Hi Josephia,
Here is my donation to help you out, for all the little kitties you rescue! God Bless your kind soul. Henriette
Henriette, your donation is now completePayment by PayPal
Confirmation number: 99F40362XW7421930.
An email with your donation details has been sent to henriet@dish-net.com and you
can print your donation receipt.
Donations Coordinator Contact Information
josephia_tania@yahoo.com

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 9:52 pm
Confirmation # 869535702F748933R

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 10:26 pm

Josephia does not know that I've posted this news story to help the kitties in her shelter. Maybe someone should tell her about it, and about all the angels here who are contributing.

Marena! Good heavens, long time no hear! You are ever in my thoughts - HOW ARE YOU??? And how are your woofs and kitties?

I think it would be a good idea to have a 'World Bank' just for Care2 members who run their own little private shelters - Perhaps in this way we can get rid of the mafia run kennels in Italy and Spain!. Better yet, register a legal LOTTO where beneficiaries are only for small private shelters and board members are vetted by their peers at Care2.

How about it Andy??

Veronica Lach of Rumania is another saint! I love the videos of her menagerie...... Veronica's group is 'Amicord' - for those who may care to help her too....

Marena - set up a donation link at PayPal - just like Josephia did. The money is out there - waiting for you to collect it.

God is not deaf or blind - but we have to have the humility to ask for help.

I'm quite amazed at the attitudes of some Care2 members who object when a request for private help is posted. Does a piece of paper guarantee legitimacy? I think not - just reading all the horror stories of abuse that happens at REGISTERED kennels/shelters around the world.....

VIVA the animal lovers - VIVA our trust and belief in the goodness of mankind. Having said that - why are the men so silent here???

Hmmm........

Thank you all for contributing, noting and commenting. BIG HUG ALL ROUND. And kitty kisses.....

Purr.... Purrr...... Purrrrrr........ Purrrrrrrrr. ..... Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 10:39 pm
Hullo Sue - remember when we were raising funds for Buddy's wheels? And we made target!

Yes, I'm going to put this in my calendar - and mid May I'll post a story again - just to remind ourselves that there are people out there who do give a damn, but need our help.

Thank you dear friend, thank you!

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 10:44 pm
Eureka, Thanks for the kind words about me and my rescued animals. My paypal does not work anymore and I did request my password and it still does not help. At this stage I am tight with money, have donated quite an amount for the South African special cases. Can you remember the dog that was roped to the railway track. I have donated for the Haiti dogs and the Bali dogs. One of my dogs (Bushman) is severely ill and the Vet said nothing can be done any more. It is now days only before he will depart and go to the other side and have peace. He is not in pain and I just dont have the heart to have him put to sleep - maybe I am hoping for a miracle. I now feed him special nice food, the little that he still eats. My Vet bills are high this month.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 10:49 pm
Oh Julie - I'm so sorry to hear about Bushman. One thing I know though - he is loved and will be loved to the end. Can you please email me a picture of him - so I can do my painting-prayer thingy? I'll send the painted pic back to you via email.

Holding you tightly my dear friend - I know your heart is breaking.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 10:49 pm
Oh yes, I now have 30 dogs. Thanks goodness I have a huge premisis, but dont think they use this space. They all are couch potatoes. This is what sometime make me angry when people give up their animals when they move to a small premises. I feel that as long as the dog is close to you and get the attention, they dont mind the small space. Can you imagine me on my bed with all the small gritters (9 of them). No wonder I am so tired in the morning.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 10:49 pm
Which Care2 members are you refering to? What do you mean ``does a piece of paper guarantee legitimacy``?

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 10:50 pm
Hullo Maria E.

Are you registered at PayPal?

If not - go to: (copy this web address and paste into your browser)

http://www.paypal.com

Then register yourself. What paypal does to verify your banking details is this: They charge ONE DOLLAR to your credit card. Wait a day or two and check your credit card statement online. There will be a reference number next to the PAYPAL charge. WRITE THIS REFERENCE NUMBER DOWN.

Now log back onto Paypal using the email address and password you set when you registered.

Click on verify account. Type in the reference number that you wrote down.

LOGOUT of PayPal

Now click on the news story link again - it will open a page - where right at the top you have to fill in the amount you wish to donate. Separate the dollar and cents value with a COMMA. For some people it works with a fullstop - for others it wants the COMMA.

Then click on 'UPDATE TOTALS'

Then on the right side is a login box. Login, and it will process your transaction.

I hope this helps.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 11:14 pm
Bev, we've had some very spiteful comments at some threads in the past - really vicious and nasty. It takes no courage at all to create an independent blog or website with a donation button on it - but it takes a huge amount of courage to post at Care2 a personal request for help with vet bills.

What is devastating is the personal humiliation when nasty comments are made about an honest plea for help.

When one runs a private little shelter there is no NON PROFIT registration. When one fosters dozens of animals 'in transit so to speak' there is no NON PROFIT registration. One carries the financial and emotional burden all by oneself.

There are certain mindsets that exist and declare: You should not have animals if you can't pay the bill. To this I reply: If you walked down the street and you saw a starving or maimed or ill animal that does not belong to anyone - what would you do? Would you pick it up and take it to the nearest kill shelter? What if there is no shelter? Would you leave it in the road? Or would you take it to your vet and pray that God will see your soul (your shining soul) and trust that the financial help is out there?

What if it is just your own beloved pet - for which you've cared for FOR years: Then you find yourself in financial difficulties just when your pet's life is at stake. Would you ask for help? And if you did, why can't you post it at Care2 or all over the internet?

Why is Care2 such a 'holy cow' to some that says only 'Official Businesses' or organisations may ask for help?

I don't want anyone to attack Josephia or anyone else asking for help. It is UNCHRISTIAN; inhuman, non-spiritual etc. and it is hurtful, and totally unnecessary. No one forces anyone to give - it is a personal choice, and many Care2 members cannot afford to give - as they are battling to even feed themselves.

Who would deny an animal the right to life, to medical care - if there are those who are willing and able to dig into their pockets?

I was helped once here at Care2 - and I took an oath that I would pay it forward. And when I can't do it with money - I do it by activating a support base of loving and caring friends.

What goes around - comes around....

Hope this clarifies my comment.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 11:30 pm
Thankyou, I thought you were refering to me that I didn`t give to the Viet Nam lady. Most of the comments on the petition were ``oh she`s a saint`` ``bless her heart`` etc. which is nice but doesn`t help her. I contacted the girl to please set up a proper way for ``the nanny of the dogs`` but got no response. She just said in the petition``I`m sure it will get to her``
As I say I only have very basic computer skills and I`m in the dark about much of the cyber world.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 11:49 pm
i'll just add that having about 20 animals at all times, i considered non-profit status. however, i have friends who have done it and it cost them a small fortune.

and to sir walk, you are being presumptuous. i spend an equal amount of time on homelessness and human rights. i've also been buying groceries for three families on a regular basis.

Wednesday April 14, 2010, 11:57 pm
Catherine don't feed the TROLLS...... They post here just to help us blow a gasket and then we end up being suspended. I'm talking from experience...... LOL

Thursday April 15, 2010, 12:18 am
Managed to donate this time - still got the message about not allowing the transaction, but I went ahead and pressed the pay button and it went through OK! Just donated $5.00 which was about £3.32. (Confirmation ref; 6LJ62554FP4726509). Hope she gets lots of donations!

Thursday April 15, 2010, 12:20 am
Will donate,thank you,and shared

Thursday April 15, 2010, 12:23 am
one more thing. there's nothing wrong with being a little skeptical and checking the facts. there's only so much money to go around, and it would be a shame to deny someone truly worthy because you accidently gave your money to a con artist. not too long ago, one care2 member collected money on behalf of another member who has a medical condition. when the ill woman asked for money for life saving antibiotics, the long-standing care2 member had spent it to get out of a jam and couldn't pay it back. fortunately, someone read about the ill woman online and paid her expenses. people are not always as they seem.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 12:53 am
il send a donation

Thursday April 15, 2010, 1:01 am
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/97/support-the-quotnannyquot-of-handicapped-dogs.

bev, is this your woman?

Thursday April 15, 2010, 1:01 am
Catherine, you will make an excellent RECCE scout - protecting all and sundry from being ambushed. Thank you for your caring heart!

And a big thank you again to everyone for comments of encouragement and for the donations.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 1:16 am
OFF TOPIC - About Vietnamese lady - I've sent an email to the two addresses on the 'petition' which is not really a petition at all - should have been a news story, requesting a valid paypal donation link and guarantee that she wiill receive the funds. See below (used Google translate for Vietnamese)....
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From: Eureka Morrison
Sent: 15 April 2010 10:13 AM
To: 'tuoitre@fpt.vn'; 'vpmttuoitre@dng.vnn.vn'
Subject: Tài trợ cho Văn Nguyễn Thị Bích

Att: Tuổi Trẻ Báo Chí-60 A Hoàng Văn Thụ, Phường 9, Quận Phú Nhuận, TP Hồ Chí Minh, Việt Nam
Tel: (84) 89973838
email: tuoitre@fpt.vn

Dear Sir,

Tôi sẽ đánh giá cao nếu bạn có thể thiết lập một liên kết tài trợ của PayPal cho Nguyễn Thị Bích Vân.

Bà là một người 54 tuổi-một phụ nữ vô gia cư có tài sản chỉ là một chiếc xe đạp và 4 lồng cho chó và cuộc sống của cô trên vỉa hè của đường phố 190 Hàm Tử, Phường 1, Quận 5, TP Hồ Chí Minh, Việt Nam. Cô đang giúp đỡ hơn 20 chú chó khuyết tật, được bỏ lại phía sau bởi chủ sở hữu của họ.

Mỗi ngày, cô đi dọc theo các đường phố của thành phố để thu thập chai rỗng và lon hoặc rác để bán để có được tiền. Cô sử dụng tất cả số tiền để mua thức ăn và nước cho những con chó. Cô cũng giống như một bà mẹ những người quan tâm cho "đứa con khuyết tật"

Tuy nhiên, người phụ nữ này là để người nghèo, cô ấy không có một ngôi nhà và không thể hỗ trợ mình, hãy để một mình con chó. Chúng tôi đánh giá cao bất kỳ tặng, hỗ trợ từ những người tốt bụng trên toàn thế giới.

Xin vui lòng giúp chúng tôi để giúp người phụ nữ này người nghèo và những con chó! Chúng tôi yêu cầu một liên kết tài trợ hợp lệ PayPal và đảm bảo rằng bạn sẽ quyên góp tiền ra cho cô ấy.

Chúng tôi giới thiệu quý vị để liên kết này:
http://www.tuoitre.com.vn/Tianyon/Index.aspx?ArticleID=363159&ChannelID=3

Cảm ơn bạn rất nhiều vì sự giúp đỡ của bạn.

Trân trọng

============================English Below===========================
Att: Tuoi Tre Newspapers- 60 A Hoang Van Thu street, Ward 9, Phu Nhuan district, Ho Chi Minh city, Vietnam
Tel: ( 84)89973838
email: tuoitre@fpt.vn

Dear Sir,

RE: Donation for Nguyen Thi Bich Van

I would appreciate it if you could set up a PayPal donation link for Nguyen Thi Bich Van.

She is a 54 years old- a homeless woman whose property are only a bicycle and 4 cages for her dogs and lives on the pavement of 190 Ham Tu street, Ward 1, District 5, Ho Chi Minh city, Vietnam. She is helping over 20 handicapped dogs, which are left behind by their owners.

Everyday, she walks along the streets of the city to collect empty bottles and cans or garbage to sell to get money. She uses all the money to buy food and water for the dogs. She is like a mother who cares for her handicapped "children"

However, this woman is so poor, she doesn't have a home and cannot support herself, let alone the dogs. We highly appreciate any donation or support from kind-hearted people all over the world.

Please help us to help this poor woman and the dogs! We require a valid PayPal donation link and an assurance that you will cash the donations out to her.

We refer you to this link:
http://www.tuoitre.com.vn/Tianyon/Index.aspx?ArticleID=363159&ChannelID=3

Thank you very much for your assistance.

Sincerely
Eureka Morrison

Thursday April 15, 2010, 1:19 am
OFF TOPIC: Vietnamese lady

One of the emails on the petition immediately bounced back
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A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

tuoitre@fpt.vn
SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO::
host isp-mta1.fpt.vn [210.245.0.172]: 554 5.7.1 :
Recipient address rejected: Inactive mailbox

Thursday April 15, 2010, 1:21 am
Unfortunately there are some people who makes us animal lovers weak and we give money and in the meantime they use it for themselves. At least the few of us here "knows" each other and we know the sincerity for the animals. I also gave money to a family some time ago, then I saw them at the shop buying Coke and sigarettes. Eureke I will send a picture of Bushman ( the huge Boerboel). You can maybe share it with the friends. I spoke to Bushman last nigt and told him that I will not be angry to him if he "goes" Goodness, now I want to cry!!!!!!

Thursday April 15, 2010, 1:35 am
Hello all, I tried to donate...I either donated 3 times or not at all! I did not get a confirmation # as just as the transaction ended it said Ihad no connectivity???? Three times in a row??? We will see, I guess. I know how hard it is to support many crtitters on a budget. We have a fixed income and 2 woofs and 15 cats to support! All are rescues but some are waiting for homes....seven of the cats are still awaiting adoptive families. They are have hard luck stories and would not be around today if we had not intervened! Noted!

Thursday April 15, 2010, 1:45 am
Ah Julie - holding you tightly my dear friend. Yes, I remember Boerboel - this is very sad. We are all here for you Julie - you are NOT alone - I understand the lack of support - so be assured we here at CARE2 really care - and I love you dearly.

Sherrie, PayPal timed out on me too - the site turns the transactions over very slowly sometimes..... I don't think it went through - but check your bank statements! thrice blessed?? Thank you for trying!

Thursday April 15, 2010, 1:46 am
Confirmation number:
7TG90409SN991901L
Donation amount:
$10.00 USD
Total:
$10.00 USD
Purpose:
Whiskers' Syndicate
Reference:
Help Picassa heal

Confirmation number:
9DK41432HH5537840
Donation amount:
$10.00 USD
Total:
$10.00 USD
Purpose:
Whiskers' Syndicate
Reference:
Renoir’s Dream

Thank u Josephia for all you do and sacrifice for these kitties, you are doing the hard work! Blessed be!

Thursday April 15, 2010, 2:15 am
Bless this babies heart, and I am so happy someone has such an interest and love to care for these little ones....Confirmation # 29H56536TF461030Y Happy and blessed to be able to help...
Thanks Eureka my friend....

Thursday April 15, 2010, 2:33 am
Hi Eureka,what a wonderful woman helping these cats,i have asked my parner if he will donate,he said yes of course,he is the one with the account.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 2:48 am
Again thank you everyone for the donations. You are saving lives - and each of these lives are so important, so precious.

If you were all here with me in my study - the room would be too small to hold all the love and caring energy.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 3:22 am
What a great cause, Some of these smaller rescues are doing far more than many of us are aware, and we can be assured that all our donation goes straight to the animals.
I have only been able to send a little at the moment ($5) but I will donate again when I can. I sent this through my husbands account (he doesn't know it yet :)) Many thanks for getting this out to everyone dear Eureka.
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John, thank you for your donation.
Confirmation number: 1K462211LC9315113.
An email with your donation details has been sent to thompson.xxxxxx@blueyonder.co.uk and you
can print your donation receipt.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 3:31 am
Neall S, has made the donation .Thanks Eureka.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 3:53 am
Ah I see the ladies raiding their men folk’s cookie jar...... :-)

Glad to see you here - Margaret and Anne, and a thank you from the kitties - to your 'men folks'

Do you all realise what we've done here? We have SAVED LIVES, reduced the stress of their kitty caregiver, and she can now channel her energies where it does most good - just loving all these souls that have been tossed away like so much garbage.

Now that is a great thing, not so? Miracles happen, and you my dear Care2 members - you are all one BIG MIRACLE. Love spans any geographical boundary - we are all ONE.

Again hugs all around. I'm gonna have to pump some iron here if this hugging goes on much longer......

Thursday April 15, 2010, 3:59 am
noted, and shared on facebook.
can't donate now but will certainly do so in may !
alerted josie to this news item...
looked all over care2 for a group called "Amicord"-couldn't be found, because it's actually called "ANIMCORD"! :) joined right away.
veronica, marena, julie : why don't you all set up a paypal account and donate button, and send the link around care2 ? i for one would be willing to donate !

Thursday April 15, 2010, 4:03 am
p.s.: great idea eureka to send the letter about the vietnamese dog lady !
please let me know if you get a result !
and i hope you've been pumping iron - i'd love some hugs too !

Thursday April 15, 2010, 4:19 am
I tried 2 times,but i can't seem to get it done.
I will try later today again,frustrating !
I know Josephia and money will be spent well.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 4:44 am
Yes,i think it worked now.
It is in dutch,so you can use google translation to see i really did it haha.But i'm sure you trust me on my word.

Uw donatie is nu voltooid.
Bevestigingsnummer: 7PV68885J5429943J. Er is een e-mail met uw donatiegegevens gestuurd naar owen.pat.claud.peters@hotmail.com en u
kunt uw ontvangstbewijs van uw donatie afdrukken. Contactgegevens coördinator van donaties
josephia_tania@yahoo.com

15 apr 2010 Donatie Aan , Tania Voltooid Gegevens
Donatie Aan , Tania 7PV68885J5429943J -$10,00 USD

Thursday April 15, 2010, 4:46 am
Hm,i should have descripted my email above lollll

Thursday April 15, 2010, 5:04 am
Folks, beware of posting the proof of donation here, without editing out your email - not to mention Josephia's email address. Spammers all over the internet!

Yes Claudia - haha - I do believe you.

And of course there is a hug for you too Ekeim. Sorry I mis-spelt Veronica's group name. Veronica tried before to set up a PayPal account. She had problems. If there is anyone who can contact her via phone to see how/if we can help - please do so.

Oh - your hug is in the mail Claudia - a whale will be delivering it...... :-)

And thank you for vouching for Josephia too. Old 'souls' know one another.....

Still 'pumping iron' here...... Want another hug, Ekeim? Here's a BIG hug!

Thursday April 15, 2010, 5:15 am
Thank you Eureka for submitting a story about this. I have already spoken to Josephia yesterday when I read her letter. I didn't notice if you posted on your comments the fact that we can take action by free clicking too and answering as many questions as we want.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 5:18 am
Very heartwarming to see these generous responses.
All the very best to Josephia, a truly caring person, and her kitties.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 5:27 am
Hullo Maria and Pam! Thank you for the support - yes we know our dear Josephia as one of Care2's angels.

I did not post anything abou the 'free' clicks at the site. Apologies - but I'm sure folks would see it - it jumps out and 'bites' you....

Big hug from me to you.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 5:28 am
Very pleased to be able to help. For those of you who don't know Josephia, I can tell you that she is a very special person -- the best. As you may well guess.

Confirmation number: 1HT****94B8****1U
Donation amount: $**.00 USD
Total: $**.00 USD
Purpose: Whiskers' Syndicate
Reference: Renoir's Dream
Contributor: **** Dumas
(hubby used his paypal acct for me as we share a email addy)

People, be careful giving full payment info on here as there could be trolls / phishing.
Thanks for highlighting this appeal, dear Eureka.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 6:01 am
Now here is soemthing to think about - just received an invitation to a Healing seminar (close to where I live) and this is one of the punch lines:

‘Money is congealed energy, and releasing it releases life’s possibilities.’
Joseph Campbell

Brain ticking over now.....

Thursday April 15, 2010, 6:11 am
WILL DONATE AND HAVE SHARED ON MY FB! THANKS EUREKA!

Thursday April 15, 2010, 8:33 am
Donated-at last.Pay Pal didn't want my money either

Thursday April 15, 2010, 9:26 am
i'll post it on fb!

Thursday April 15, 2010, 12:15 pm
I know exactly how she feels and I know after Sat(I start volunteer work at the Aspca) I hope my home dosent become a shelter as well...Donated!! Thank u all for ur love for the animals I wish everyone was like us...

Thursday April 15, 2010, 12:16 pm
Posted On FB TY Eureka X

Thursday April 15, 2010, 2:41 pm
Josie, dear - and Eureka -
I have just sent via PayPal a total of $30 ($15 for Picassa, and $15 for Renoir).
I am not boasting; I just want to tell you, Eureka, and you, Josie, that I have not let these fur babies down.

My precious fur boy, Zake Silver (after the one-eyed pirate!) was put to sleep at our vet's surgery yesterday afternoon. We buried him today, here in our garden. He was very ill and old, and he was very miserable right at the end, and he had had enough. This donation is in his memory, because I loved him.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 2:47 pm
I have made a small donation as hubby doesn't get paid for another couple of weeks. There are so many wonderful rescues to help and wild animals that it is so difficult to know who to give to.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 3:13 pm
Josephia's plea with paypal link is posted on my Twitter page http://twitter.com/babar2. Thank you my cyber sis for all your efforts, as always, you're the Best!

Thursday April 15, 2010, 5:52 pm
Confirmation number: 32A09558JM944433M

Thanks, Eureka

Thursday April 15, 2010, 6:27 pm

I've subscribed to Josephia's blog to remind me to help her again. Unfortunately, as Gillian said: "There are so many wonderful rescues to help and wild animals that it is so difficult to know who to give to." and where to get all that money.

BTW, click to donate didn't work for me, I blame my computer settings. I'd have to reinstall, but always short with time...

Thursday April 15, 2010, 6:43 pm
I wish I could donate, but I DO give a BIG damn about issues like this! Oh, if I were rich...well, I wouldn't be cuz I'd donate it all to wonderful causes such as this!

Thursday April 15, 2010, 6:49 pm
N/TY so much.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 8:14 pm
Donated

Thursday April 15, 2010, 8:35 pm
Donated.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 8:40 pm
So many beautiful people here who really care for the non-human species who are so often ignored. It's really heartwarming to see. Many of us have our own little furry 'freeloaders' (I love it) but they don't ask to be born or dumped and they love us unconditionally. They don't ask for money or 'things', all they want is enough food to survive and a little warmth and love in return for much pleasure and companionship to enrich our lives in so many ways.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 10:45 pm
Just checking in to see how things are going and it warms my heart to see so many wanting to help this caregiver. As I am now up to 8 dogs myself, four rescued just this year, I understand how it all adds up and have a great affinity for the small independent rescuers that try to make a difference for animals in whatever way they can. Those are some very lucky kitties and so adorable in their pics.

Thursday April 15, 2010, 11:27 pm
Like so many, I cannot afford to donate money but I can afford to lend a voice. I wish her every sucess.

Friday April 16, 2010, 12:59 am
is uk money any use to her and i wish and hope she carry on with the great work she do .bless her

Friday April 16, 2010, 4:26 am
Anna Borsey: My deepest sympathy for your loss. Holding you tight dear friend. Many of us here at Care2 have recently said goodbye to our beloved furry friends - who now await us on the other side of 'The Rainbow Bridge'

And some of our furry friends are in the process of saying goodbye - my heart goes out to you all - and I send love to you and your human caregivers.

Sue L: It is truly beautiful to see the responses on this little news story. I received a beautiful response from Josephia and her kitties - from PayPal. In a mad world filled with anguish and heartbreak for so many animals every life saved adds a star in heaven. And the energy is paid forward. If goodwill like this is the norm on our planet we will end all the suffering.

Dve: Sorry you have to use the PayPal link - you just have to be a member - link your credit card/bank acc to PayPal when you register at PayPal. The currency donation is in dollars. Just put how many dollars you can give (convert it in your head to British Pounds). Very easy to donate via PayPal.

To everyone else: Thank you for supporting these kitties with either donations and/or messages of love and encouragement.

Big hug all around. My gratitude is immense.

Friday April 16, 2010, 4:42 am
Message of love and encouragement to this lady!

Friday April 16, 2010, 5:22 am
noted and crossposted dear xx

Friday April 16, 2010, 5:51 am
Sir Walk F. - It is not for you to criticize what causes other people choose to donate to. What I do with MY life and MY money is MY choice! If you want to give money to help Indonesian children, that is fine by me - although I very much doubt that you do, or will do, so. We animal rights advocates are constantly ridiculed and heavily criticized by others for caring about animals when, in their opinion, we ought to care about humans instead. What is the immensely wealthy Catholic Church doing to alleviate world hunger? What are other churches doing to help? What is The Red Cross doing? What is Oxfam doing? What, indeed, are all the wealthy citizens in each and every poor country doing to aid their fellow citizens? Not a lot, it seems. The churches and charities appeal for donations, but only a miniscule amount of all the donated money is actually used on the causes they profess to care about. A nice little earner, for a great many people, that's all.

Personally, I feel that that there way too many humans on this planet. We are out-breeding each and every other life-form. And no, I do not advocate a culling of humans, but I do feel that we should ALL be sterilized after one child. (I anticipate a lot of criticism for that statement!) I am child-free by choice, and I had myself "spayed" many, many years ago. There are now some 7 BILLION humans on this planet . . . and rising!

Friday April 16, 2010, 5:58 am
Noted, thank you.

Friday April 16, 2010, 6:24 am
To those of you who are dubious about giving money to a small, private animal rescuer:

The private individuals who devote their lives to helping and rescuing animals are doing it as a "labour of love" (and not as a paid job) and they go without a lot of things to do this work. When you give to a large charity (as I am sure many are aware) a lot of the money is spent on admin., on running the charity, and only a certain (variable) percentage is actually spent on the cause. I know all the arguments for and against, and I do sometimes donate to a large(ish) charity, but I now prefer to donate to small outfits.

To help an individual who is rescuing animals on a small scale, in their own home, is just as valuable as helping a private shelter/sanctuary who is a somewhat larger operation (with some land, buildings etc). Both categories are worthy of financial assistance and aid. In both cases, animals are being helped and saved from starvation, disease, abuse etc.

Sadly, many of us can only afford to give small sums, now and then. I have to say though, that although we are decidedly NOT well off by the standards of the country where we live, which is England, compared with e.g., dear sweet Josie, we are very blessed indeed. We don't have a car, but we do live in a nice house with a pleasant garden - even though it is a semi-permanent building site; we bought a very decrepit, neglected house, as this was all we could afford. In England, it is so astronomically expensive to rent a flat or house that it is cheaper to buy one! (Assuming you have the money for the down payment.)

Friday April 16, 2010, 6:40 am
I don't have a paypal account. Can I use a credit card instead to donate? Please let me know asap as I am sure this wonderful woman can use the funds right away.

Friday April 16, 2010, 10:07 am
Donated the other day to Josie and will again next week. She works so hard and had it not been for her stopping at the roadside, Renoir would not be here today. Thank you, Eureka, for doing this. Josie so needs that money. It will cost $550.00 USD for Renoir's op and all donations will really help Joise to be able to secure the surgery.

Friday April 16, 2010, 10:37 am
I, like some of the others here, also signed up for the email up-dates on this shelter. Thanks again Eureka, and thank you Josie for setting up your blog. These cats are so lovely.

Friday April 16, 2010, 10:52 am
its wonderfull, how many ppl react and donate, i really get shivers all over my skin, in reading the effort and emphatic reactions, glad to be a member off care2 and able to donate and get more done, then ever would be able just ithout care2, so, bless u all, warm hugs from me and hurrah for all, u made the world go forward..take care...........love u all XXX

Friday April 16, 2010, 12:05 pm
To pick up on an earlier comment - has anyone contributed to this cause?

thepetitionsite.com/97/support-the-quotnannyquot-of-handicapped-dogs

Friday April 16, 2010, 12:13 pm
Hear hear Anna! Since I was a child, I have had great empathy for animals. It`s just part of my mental make-up, I did not choose it. I can`t help that I become exteremely upset at the site of animal cruelty. I have a friend who cannot stand the site of needles and he has an anxiety attack if he has to get a shot. This doesn`t phase me in the least. I think we are all pretty much hard-wired to what we feel or don`t feel.
Yes, what is the Catholic Church doing with their billions? Their going to Africa and telling the people that condoms are evil, go forth and multiply! and raping little children!
We HAVE to address population growth, just like we address spay/neuter for animals. TO STOP THE SUFFERING!

Friday April 16, 2010, 12:38 pm
Jane, I am #78 on that petition back on Feb.13. I contacted the care2 member Ngoc Truong who posted the petition. She lives in Da Nang and said she sends what she can spare to the news office in Ho Chi Ming, where the homeless ``nanny`` lives. She said ``I`m sure it will get to her``. But I wish someone would set up an account for HER to access only, as I really want to HELP!!!!!

Friday April 16, 2010, 12:43 pm
Jane B. If you check the comments above - there is no direct method of donating to this lady. I took the time and trouble to google translate a letter I wrote to the newspaper editors - I emailed them (addresses supplied on the petition site). One address immediately bounced back. I've had NIL response to the other one that did not bounce back. Very, very few of us can do an international bank transfer, BECAUSE the costs of the transfers are so high, and the RED TAPE involved is a nightmare. That is why we use PAYPAL - and thank God that South Africa has fnally (from the 1st April 2010) entered the modern world by allowing PAYPAL receipts.

I find it extraordinary that you have slammed us about the petition contribution. Besides - a plea for donations is NOT a petition - if research had been done PROPERLY it could have been a SMASH HIT news story - and I probably would have gone down in the street cap in hand to collect funds for this MAGNIFICENT WOMAN.

Eeeessshhh.,....

Friday April 16, 2010, 12:46 pm
Carla J: If you have a REAL care2 friend close by, who does have a PayPal account (not everyone has a credit card and I can understand your problem - if that is the problem) then I suggest you give your friend some bucks and ask her/him to donate on your behalf. Increase the amount slightly to cover PayPal's bank charges so your friend won't be out of pocket.

Hope this helps. And thank you so much for caring enough to ask for assistance to donate!

Friday April 16, 2010, 1:03 pm
Anna Borsey
I agree with you 100%. The amount of cash collected for humans in dire straits is simply stupendous. And the Catholic Church has to gall to collect for this issue too, while at the same time out of the sides of their mouths they preach that the intimate act of sex between people is a SIN if one uses contraception! Where in hell did they get this idea from??? And since they are so busy molesting boys I think they should shut the F... UP !!!

South American countries - predominantly Catholic is a basket case of starving human beings. Africa has long since passed the 'basket' state.

HIV is rife - yet the Catholic Church says NO CONDOMS. To turn the sexual act of loving into a SIN is to my mind so EVIL, so UNGODLY, that I shrink from any human who would profess to be 'God's' spokesman, who has the gall to express human loving as gutter actions! Humankind is already so bedevilled by guilt about just being human - just see the appointment books of shrinks... that for a man of 'God' to add to this misery is incomprehensible!

Humans have a choice to breed or not to breed. Unfortunately once one is born there is no choice left - one is alive but in most cases not 'well' because the next plate of food is not in sight and medical care and a roof over one's head most times not possible.... This leaves us in a terrible mess. If a country does not educate their citizens about birth control and indeed make it illegal to have more than one child - Africa can do without any kids for at least ONE generation... then we could improve the lives of the existing population. But with the out-of-control breeding of humans we are losing the race.

Animals don't have a choice to breed. We have to assist them. Therefore the mass neuter spays programs in many countries - and not a damn cent funded by their governments. So there are those of us who make it our life mission to trap/neuter/spay. And responsible owners will have their animals spayed/neutered.

And you are right - we have a choice as to what cause we support and what we do with our money. I for one spend every spare cent I have (and I don't have much to spare) on animals and scrape together rands to pay for my home internet connection. South Africa is the most expensive 'internet supplier' in the world!

Grrrrr - I've just committed the ‘sin’ of blowing a gasket - something I 'warned about' in a post here - see close to the top.... Never mind – we seldom follow our own advice…

Hugs to everyone who is helping these kitties. And I really hope we will reach target and that the surgeries happen soon. Bless Josephia (Jossie), bless you for all that you do.

Friday April 16, 2010, 1:13 pm
Re the 'homeless nanny of handicapped dogs' in Vietnam - I'm sorry, I just wanted to know whether donations could yet be securely made to her, i.e. whether a paypal account had since been set up on her behalf, and also whether this was actually the case referred to by Bev.
Looking at the pictures and the video, it seems that she has somehow managed to get some veterinary treatment for these dogs as well as feeding and caring for them - astounding! I'm thinking (and hoping) that maybe she's a well known character that gets maybe a few donations to help, but it would be so much better if she had a place of her own. Will try and keep an eye on this (as well as these kitties).

Friday April 16, 2010, 2:06 pm
Thanks for posting.

Friday April 16, 2010, 2:09 pm
donated

Friday April 16, 2010, 2:27 pm
What an extraordinary thing - the sarcastic comment posted by one "Sir Walk F." has disappeared! Did one of you "Flag as inappropriate"? Were it not for the fact that Catherine Turley also objected to his comment I would have thought I had dreamed it!

Friday April 16, 2010, 2:47 pm
Yes, I noticed that as well Anna, maybe he had a change of heart, and removed himself, I don`t know if thats possible to do?

Friday April 16, 2010, 2:56 pm
Jane, no need to apologize........I understood what you meant. I wonder if there is a care2 member that lives in Ho Chi Min, that we could channel $ to? So she could have a small place to live, instead of a cardboard box.

Friday April 16, 2010, 3:52 pm
Do you know what would be a great PLUS to care2's software. If we could sort our friends by 'country'. Then we would be able to find someone in Ho Chi Min in a jiffy (if there was someone there).

I promise that if that blasted newspaper ever does respond to me - I will immediately let you all know via a message or a news story. Wonder why the petition creator never gave a positive response to our emails either! If she cared to create the petition she should care enough to get the right details too! Eeesh

Friday April 16, 2010, 3:53 pm
I flagged Sir Walk F. One cannot remove one's comments after posting - only the Care2 support can do this.

Ha-ha, now it looks like we are all ranting about nothing. But no, you did not imagine his post - it was there...

Friday April 16, 2010, 4:50 pm
Just sent a few dollars. Is ther a way to get in touch with Josephia? Does she belong to any care2 groups?

Friday April 16, 2010, 7:06 pm
noted

Friday April 16, 2010, 11:04 pm
okay, just so I don't have to rely on my memory...heh, heh..., I pushed a doctor bill to the 23rd, and donated $10.00 each, to both Picassa and Renoir.
Confirmation number: 04T4065904177313H and 6EJ96013J01764619

Blessings to Josephia and the kitties!

Friday April 16, 2010, 11:12 pm
I never could say no to adorable kitties. I hope $5 helps.

Saturday April 17, 2010, 1:36 am
kristen r.
check the 'noted' list below and click on 'josephia t.'
then click on 'introduction' and send her a short message.

anne n.
it really does help because the standard of living is so low.

ps. i like the antagonistic comments because they represent the thoughts of many. it's easy to view people as one-dimensional on the internet. i don't think sir walk was just trying to be an *ss. i think he truly feels that most of us care only for animals, or at least not enough about humans. and frankly, it would be easy to characterize him as an animal hater, but i'm sure he's not. i do know that he cares deeply about the environment. he planted 100 trees in one day. a good lesson for all of us. don't be too quick to judge. guilty myself from time to time.

Saturday April 17, 2010, 7:46 am
Dar - don't forget to pay your doctor's bill!

Thank you to eveyrone for their donations and messages of support.

Big hug all around!

Sunday April 18, 2010, 5:41 pm
I have helped too many this month but I managed to squeeze in $5 and sent this this dear soul caring for the cats.

Monday April 19, 2010, 12:18 pm
Catherine Turley - Sir Walk F. planted 100 trees in one day? ? ? That is a total of 100 000 Butterfly points! How on Earth did he manage that? (I have only managed to plant 13 trees myself, so far. Sigh.)

Well, maybe he is basically a good person, in certain respects. However, I still think that his comment was inappropriate. I don't click on threads devoted to the issue of helping starving children and write comments like "Now how about some of you showing some concern for the abysmally abused, starving and homeless animals in these countries for a change? There are plenty of aid agencies devoted to alleviating human suffering!" I am not a philanthropist, and as I am not greatly interested in the issue of starving children I never click on the stories about such issues. (I anticipate some criticism for that remark.)

On another animal welfare thread recently (re the astronomically high numbers of companion animals "euthanized" annually in the U.S.A.), some U.S. woman wrote something like this: "All this concern for animals. I wish people would devote their energy to helping children instead. There are so many homeless and jobless families in this country who can't feed their children. It would be nice if some of you gave money to starving children in this country, instead of to animals." I would be willing to bet that she would never, ever contemplate fostering one of these children - let alone several! Furthermore, I doubt that she donates her own time and/or money to help these families. I might be wrong, but I don't think I am.

Monday April 19, 2010, 12:35 pm
i think suffering is suffering. i try to end it wherever i find it. as for the trees, i didn't follow up but i assume he physically planted seedlings with some sort of environmental group.

Tuesday April 20, 2010, 3:58 am
Send what i can at the moment.. Sweet kitties..

Tuesday April 20, 2010, 4:36 am
Okay donation sent... took a while to work out but confirmation ...No IBA021808J9830439. This has certainly caused a lot of post. To all of you out there who are sceptical... no problem .... there are a lot o scams out there. Just look at it this way. What you give comes back to the giver a thousand fold in one way or the other. So good luck to the Whiskers syndicate... many more caring people who walk the walk are needed. Please keep us posted about the little lady in Vietnam.......... And my admiration goes to the people who have the where with all to find out about these people and how to help them ........ WELL DONE..... love and kisses and hugs....

Tuesday April 20, 2010, 6:00 am
Thank you again for the messages of support and the donations. We've done much good here.

Wednesday April 21, 2010, 3:13 pm
Josie is in trouble with PayPal! The following is copied from her own blog:

" . . . angels around the world flocked over to lend her a hand, resulting in some USD 507.01.

Though that amount can only cover half of Renoir and Picassa's treatment, she never lose hope. "There's always way" so she said, and therefore she keeps on trying. USD 507.01 is a very good start, though the traffic in her Paypal account alarmed the company, that resulting in her account being frozen because it was deemed "potentially high risk"

Certainly, Paypal never mention that they can just freeze an account because it is suddenly active. They did say that any member can start receiving money in the instant of their account verification, but definitely were shocked enough to see how much people come and lend a hand.

Instead of being glad that Josie use their service as mean of payment, Paypal froze Josie's account because the sudden activities in her account is deemed potentially high risk.

The giant also cheated on her, by charging her some fee while converting USD into Indonesian before she withdraw her fund, froze her account, and therefore charge another amount to reverse the money back into US.

That doesn't include blocking her account from receiving anymore fund for the same reason.

And so another door was closed for her. Until she resolve the dispute with Paypal, she will not be able to withdraw her money."

Does anyone of you have any idea how to help dear Josie resolve this issue with PayPal? All this money that we donated to Josie for her precious fur kids, and PayPal WILL NOT LET HER HAVE HER MONEY! I am outraged!

Wednesday April 21, 2010, 6:15 pm
ok. i just dug an old paypal survey out of the trash and let 'em have it.
https://www.paypal.com/us/contactus
you can email or call. be sure to tell them it was an urgent appeal for donations for animals requiring surgery. josephia tania in indonesia as recipient (or maybe whisker's syndicate). she probably would have had to pay to convert the dollars to indonesian money, but certainly they stole from her by charging to convert it back into dollars.

Wednesday April 21, 2010, 7:15 pm
Thanks, Catherine for the tip. I've mailed to PayPal:

"I was informed that my donation to Whisker's Syndicate was frozen. I responded to URGENT appeal from my dear friend, and I want you to transfer my money to Tania ASAP.
Thank you"

Response:

"Thanks for the note, and we'll do our best to get back to you within 24 hours. It might take a bit longer (depending on the question), but we try hard not to keep you waiting longer than 72 hours.
If you need more immediate help, feel free to call us."

I suggest that all donators go to PayPal Help Center, and send them a mail. You will have to log in, but it will take 2 minutes to complete your demand.

Wednesday April 21, 2010, 11:39 pm
i've sent a complaint to paypal as well, no answer yet.

off topic again : eureka, i've sent your letter (in english) to the vietnamese paper too - i suppose you haven't heard from them yet ?

Thursday April 22, 2010, 3:28 am
I've emailed PayPal as well. 22-04-2010. Logged in and then let rip: Was so cross that I repeated myself - but nevermind - I hope this nonsense is sorted out very soon.
Here is a copy of my email to them. Everyone - please climb onto this issue and email PayPal.

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We set up a news story at CARE2.Com to raise funds for two kitties in Indonesia. This was done via a PayPal donation link and many of us donated - as we all know Josephia very well! Paypal saw fit to suddently freeze the account of Josephia, in effect freezing all our donations! What does paypal expect when we use their 'set up donation' tools on their website? Of course there will be sudden and may be (thank you for the blessings...) movement on the account!

It is outrageous that PayPal offers this donation facility only to freeze the account when donations start streaming in. In the meantime those who needed the funds, in this case the kitties, are now still not getting the surgery for which we did this fund raising.

How stupid can a bank or quasi bank be - fund raising will attract funds - end of story! And the double charge on this conversion and transfer of the funds is simply reprehensible!

WE from Care2.com demand you unfreeze this account immediately - that the funds we donated be made available to the Josephia Tania!

Here is the URL - this will give you a good idea of the legitimacy of this case - and make you realise that there are a lot of publicity about this issue.

And once again - we ask you to check your methodology - sure in inflow of funds can be expected when a donation button/setup is used. A quick check from your admin people should easily show that such a donation button has been setup - and explain the inflow of cash into the paypal account. Why freeze it? Why not simply contact the paypal recipient of the donations???

This is outrageous. These kitties need OUR Dollars now. This is OUR money - not yours. The only thing that is yours is the bank charges, and having said that, doubling on bank charges is simply a rip-off.

This gives paypal a very bad name for sure.

Below is the copy of my receipt :

Hello Eureka L Morrison,

This email confirms that you have donated $5.00 USD to , Tania (EDITED OUT) @yahoo.com) using PayPal.
________________________________________
Donation Details
Confirmation number:
68R88750TB916615C
Donation amount:
$5.00 USD
Total:
$5.00 USD
Purpose:
Whiskers' Syndicate
Reference:
Help Picassa heal
Contributor:
Eureka L Morrison
________________________________________

Recipient information
Donations coordinator:
, Tania

________________________________________
Your Unconfirmed Address

Mailing information:
Eureka L Morrison
(edited out)
South Africa

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Reply from Paypal - automated
Dear Eureka L Morrison,

Thanks for your email. We'll do our best to get back to you within 24 hours. It might take a bit longer (depending on the question), but we try hard not to keep you waiting longer than 72 hours.

blah-blah......

Sincerely,

PayPal

Thursday April 22, 2010, 8:07 pm
I'm San. using Josie's account. She's still in hospital. Sherrie Estes might be able to share details because I told her what happened that Josie ended up there receiving few stitches.

FYI to comply with Paypal's demand, Josie has sent copy of her valid ID card, valid Bank statement, and valid credit card statement, all to clear out that she is a... well... legal (what the..)

As result of her appeal, this morning I checked her yahoo account and found this email written by RISA from Paypal:
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Re: MyAccount (Routing Code: C360-L001-T11033-S111-W0L0000) (KMM167202085I96L0KM) :ppk1
...
From:
"webform@apac.paypal.com"
...
Add to Contacts
To: ", ********
Dear , Tania,

Thank you for taking the time to contact us, I am happy to assist you.

After checking the limitation case in your PayPal account, I am sorry
that it had been denied.

In order to protect PayPal from the risk of reversals, the funds in your
account must be held for a period of up to 180 days. You should receive
an email after 180days advising you that your funds are available for
withdrawal. Once you receive the email, you may log into your account
and click on the 'Withdraw' tab to receive your funds.

If you do not receive the email advising you to withdraw your funds,
please feel free to contact us.

We appreciate your patience and understanding regarding this matter.
Thanks again for contacting us, and thank you for being part of the
PayPal community.

Sincerely,
Risa
PayPal Account Review Department
PayPal, an eBay Company

Copyright© 2008 PayPal Inc. All rights reserved.

Consumer advisory: PayPal Pte Ltd is regarded as a stored value facility
under Singapore law. As such, it does not require the approval of the
Monetary Authority of Singapore. You are advised to read the terms and
conditions carefully.
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There goes the money gluttons again..... but I guess, now we have some NAME and EMAIL ADDRESS to send some fire to instead of being angry to a computer.

Another information: Josie is not the first victim, and I am sure will not be the last. Last year Paypal also froze a fund raiser's account for Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Gustav for the same reason as Josie's (receiving sudden donation in short time is potentially high risk so they froze USD 10,000 +), and earlier this year they also refuse to pay and instead froze the donation for an orphanage affected by earthquake in Haiti.

http://www.paypalsucks.com/katrina.shtml

Paypal also froze some of the most successful merchants in ebay because they won good auction, and as result, those merchants are left without money to produce items, and generates waves of outrage from the customers. To make an extremely "sweet" ending, however, when the customer finally left a negative feedback about that incident, Paypal take that as more clues to deem the account "potentially high risk and untrustable" wonderful isn't it?

Way to go Paypal, thanks for reserving YOUR security over your customer's

I am off looking for some alternative payment gate for her, one that can also accept paypal without freezing your money. Meh, I cannot imagine having to send one bad news after another to that girl.

~San

To Eureka Morrison: You are the one that Josie has been calling "saint"? Well your idea about setting up a world's bank for unregistered charity echoes with Josie. FYI, she intended that blog to be for everyone, where all private (yet proven legitimate) charities for animal can post their stories and readers for the blog will decide how much can be spared. Paypal actually have a feature that allow an account to be divided to certain sub account (e.g: for several causes) but since she still want to check how good Paypal run the business, she keep the idea to herself, and voila! here comes the ugly truth.

I'll inform you via Josie if I got some luck with payment alternative. Thanks.

Thursday April 22, 2010, 8:50 pm
Another name:
J.R

Friday April 23, 2010, 8:34 am
Another name:
J.R.
PayPal Compliance Department
PayPal, an eBay Company
apacdd@paypal.com.
PayPal is located at 2211 N. First St., San Jose, CA 95131.

Friday April 23, 2010, 8:27 pm
My Card account says: "16.04.2010. PAYPAL *JOSEPHIATAN SG Singapore SNG 8 USA"

A****les, they took my money and refuse to transfer it to Josephia. It will lay on their account, building their status and probably some interest, while kitties wait.

Friday April 23, 2010, 8:45 pm
My PayPal Account:

Apr 15, 2010 Donation To , Tania Completed

Apr 15, 2010 Transfer From Credit Card Completed
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The most common payment statuses:
- Cancelled: The sender cancelled this payment.
- Completed (referring to a bank withdrawal): Money is being transferred to your bank account. Allow up to 7 days for this transfer to complete.
- Completed (referring to a payment): Money has been successfully sent to the recipient.
- Denied: The recipient chose not to accept this payment.
- Held: Money is being temporarily held. The sender may be disputing this payment, or the payment may be under review by PayPal.
- Pending: This payment is being processed. Allow up to 4 days for it to complete.
- Returned: Money was returned to the sender because the payment was unclaimed for 30 days.
- Unclaimed: The recipient hasn't yet accepted this payment.
---------------------------------
Basically, they lie that money was transfered to Josephia. It would be fair to tell me that it has been "held" or "pending".

Time for another e-mail...

Saturday April 24, 2010, 3:42 pm
I've had another reply from Paypal. They in fact did not even read the complaint email I sent - simply did an autoresponder as if I was complaining about them freezing my paypal account! How bloody stupid can they get??

I've sent off an email to the real person (email posted above) asking them to unfreeze Josephia's account.. Maybe if a 'real' person gets the email her account will be unfrozen immediately. Will keep you posted on any replies.

Saturday April 24, 2010, 7:28 pm
Thanks Eureka
I've also replied to their mail and explained that we are trying to help a friend. If nothing happens soon, I'll demand my money back and find a channel to pass it to Josephia.

Saturday April 24, 2010, 8:08 pm
Thank you Jelica. What is mind boggling here is that Paypal has the tool to set up a donation fund. Then when the money starts pouring in - they freeze the account????

Don't they check the recipient's account first to see why funds are coming in? Surely the paper trail we get when we donate to a cause is visible to them too?

I'm pretty mad about this. We rushed to help - only for these ARSE H.... to freeze the funds!

GGRRRRRRRRRRRR......

Sunday April 25, 2010, 5:20 am
As I used my partner's PayPal account to donate, Barry is the one who is now embroiled in our dispute with PayPal over the money that I sent to Josephia: It is all a lot of glib lies, as in the following sentence:
"Please be advised that though the account of the recipient is frozen still they may be able to accept the donation." Oh really. In that case, why is dear Josie not getting the money???

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 4:16 PM, wrote:

Dear Barry Appleby,

Thank you for contacting PayPal. I appreciate the opportunity to assist you today.
Mr. Appleby, I have reviewed your account and I have seen the donation
amounting to $15.00 USD. Please be advised that though the account of the
recipient is frozen still they may be able to accept the donation. Funds
you have sent was credited on the same day you have sent them. Recipient
must need to complete the required verification to put the account back to
its normal standing so that they can transfer the funds to their bank
accounts or can use for any purchases.

It is my pleasure to assist you. Thank you for choosing PayPal.

Yours sincerely,
Aimee
PayPal

Copyright © 1999-2010 PayPal. All rights reserved.

PayPal (Europe) S.à r.l. et Cie, S.C.A.
Société en Commandite par Actions
Registered Office: 22-24 Boulevard Royal L-2449, Luxembourg
RCS Luxembourg B 118 349

Original Message Follows:
------------------------
Form Message
customer subject: Recipient's account frozen - funds not returned to me
customer message: Describe the nature of your complaint: 'ID
#0S241124ES455040B
ID #1U267388SK597944K

On April ##, I made two charitable donations of $15 each to support the
work of Josephia Tania in Indonesia, who takes care of homeless dogs and
cats. She has now contacted me to state that PayPal has frozen her account
and so she cannot access the money that I sent her. Why have these funds
not been returned to me?

If they are not returned to me within ## days, I shall file a formal complaint with the FSA and the EU Commission and also contact my MEP and MP to discuss an EU class action against PayPal Europe.

Yours sincerely
Barry L. Appleby B.A., M.Litt, Dip.l in Tech. and Spec. Translation

And this is his latest response to PayPal:

Please do not insult my intelligence. I am fully aware thatin Europe PayPal can freeze funds for up to 180 days.
Outside Europe, where PayPal operates according to different legislation, frozen funds may be retained indefinitely. There are literally thousands of complains about PayPal on the Internet, regarding this practice.
You have not reviewed my account since there were 2 (two) donations of $15.00 (2 x 15 = 30), i.e., a total of $30.

How can a recipient withdraw funds from a frozen account?

These funds were a charitable donation to be used for a charitable purpose. PayPal froze the recipients account and then charge the recipient to convert the dollars to rupiah and then back to dollars again.
If you refuse to return the $30 to my account, I shall make a formal submission to the FSA in the UK regarding this matter and ask them to consult with the Attorney General with regard to assessing the legality of your actions under British and EU law.

The recipient is a lowly paid office worker who requested donations to pay for the care of abandoned dogs and cats, not for her own use. She has been very badly treated by PayPal and has not been informed of the reasons why.

Sunday April 25, 2010, 5:31 am
San, my dear - will you please convey my heartfelt Get Well wishes to dear Josie next time you see her!

Surely there must be another way of sending money to Josie - and to other genuine causes - using neither PayPal nor the banks, as the latter charge ca £20 for an account to account SWIFT transfer which is ca $30.75 which is ca 277.444 Indonesian Rupiahs! In other words, the bank charges often amount to MORE than the actual donated sum! This is not viable. The banks are just legalized thieves.

Sunday April 25, 2010, 3:27 pm
Amen Anna!

Monday April 26, 2010, 7:31 am
dear san - could you tell us josie's bank details, also an IBAN- and BIC-code if you have those : then i can go and find out if i can make a transfer to her bank and how much that costs.
is she still in hospital ? has the fever gone yet ? has her boss found her a new address ?
and the dog - i suppose it was hurt as well : has it been taken to a vet ? is it safe now ?
sorry to bother you with all these questions, but i'm really looking forward to the answers !

Tuesday April 27, 2010, 10:50 pm
answer from san to my question above :

Josie was released from hospital a few days ago actually, but we’d have to take her back to the hospital because her fever is back high every night for the next few days. The doctor ran several tests on her, and we find out that she has typhoid, as well as liver function disorder. the doctor said apparently she has been neglecting her rest or good food. Based on this information I decided to hold her in until she can properly heal before she go home. Josie is almost always alone so I think it is better that while I am here with her, she can nurse herself to complete fitness before I leave. It will be a little difficult if I’m back in Japan and she’s sick again. Liver failure (minor) and typhoid are cruel combo. She didn’t want to put this news on her blog or announce it publicly because she doesn’t want people to think she is trying to make a soap opera of all these adversities.

The dog is all right. Josie called other rescuer from nearby city who are willing to drive six hours back and forth and take the dog away. Where Josie live is a Muslim dominated area. The dog would have been dead if he’s alone on the street too long and that is why we do the evac ASAP.

Her boss did find her another address, to where we hope she can move after she is cleared from the hospital. However, I am thinking that it might be at best if she can postpone the move, because moving is a tiring process, and I’m not sure she is ready for that.

Her bank details are as follow:

PT. Bank Permata, Tbk Branch Astana Anyar, Bandung, Indonesia

A/C: 3411979988, Account holder name: Tania

SWIFT code: BBBAIDJA

Don’t worry about contacting me. I am more than happy to assist in any way I can. I am happy that she has so many caring friends. Thank you very much for your kindness and thoughtfulness.

Respectfully, ~San

Wednesday April 28, 2010, 4:31 am
i'm glad that i couldn't donate right away - i've sent a donation now to her bank account; and i'm also sending a parcel with cat toys and blankets - i just hope that it will arrive safely !
will let you all know if there are any problems with the bank transfer (so far so good) and how much the costs are (so far just 5.50 EURO).

Wednesday April 28, 2010, 2:00 pm
thanks ekeim. not sure how to make a transfer, but i'll try within the next week. you seem to know quite a bit. are the cats at the vet or at home waiting for surgery? how on earth is josie going to take care of the animals with typhoid and liver failure? why does she have to move? this is very serious.

Thursday April 29, 2010, 10:37 am
San, does Indonesia accept Western Union bank transfers? If it does, then the way to get money to Josephia is open. All you would need to do is this:

For anyone wishing to send money to Josephia via Western Union:
San must write you privately - as one does not want these details all over the internet:

1) Josephia's full name and Surname
2) Josephia's physical address + postal/zip code & country
3) Josephia's telephone contact number
4) Secret question answer: Could just be 'care2'

At your Western Union branch or bank that does Western Union transfers:
1) Fill in the form providing details of recipient = josephia
2) Fill in your details
3) Reason for sending = gift

You will get a copy of the transfer - there will be a Western Union Transfer number.

Email San with this reference number and your name, surname, full physical address and zip code.

Josephia will personally have to go to the western union branch/bank and fill in a form to receive the funds - indicating it is a gift (NOT A DONATION!). She will supply the reference number and full details of the sender plus answer the secret question (whatever was agreed upon). And the money will be in her pocket! Simple as that!

Please let me know if Western Union is an option in Josephia's country.

Much love and support. Eureka xxxxx

Friday April 30, 2010, 10:55 am
Josie sent me an e-mail last Sunday, 25th April. I have copied a couple of paragraphs from this below:

"The dogs and chicken are all right. I left them at my hometown when I went to work in Bandung (I was originated from Surabaya, another city) so I was left with the cats. San takes care of them when I am in hospital, and we both agree that Iceland's volcano eruption is a blessing in disguise, because otherwise, San would have flown to Iceland and Norway to write his next article about Iceland and Norway's whaling.

Other than that, we both also agree that the volcano is delivering Karma to Iceland. Though the financial loss they suffered due to the eruption will never match the lost life of all the whales, sharks and dolphins they killed, it should (hopefully) reminded them about the value of nature and her impact to mankind, so that Iceland and Norway can learn to respect our mother more.

The stoned dog is also all right. I asked San to contact my friend and though she has to go 3 hours ride (that's 6 hours back and forth) she came right away and took the dog. In a Muslim dominated area where I live, dogs are almost certainly dead if they wander around without a master. Muslims hate dogs so much, saying that dogs are unholy or haram. That is why they often called non muslims as "dogs"."

Apparently, Josie must have suffered a relapse since she sent me that mail; this is cause for great concern.

She needs to move to a safer area and a better flat, with a more congenial landlord. Mercifully, she seems to have people in her life who care about her - as well as the animals she is looking after!

Friday April 30, 2010, 8:57 pm
about my SWIFT money transfer to josie's bank : there were additional costs of 20 EURO for "correspondence"! in total that makes 25.50 EURO for costs - yes, anna, you said it before :"banks are just legalized thieves".
so eureka, you're right, it seems that western union is the best option at the moment - last time i used it the costs they charged were 9.50 EURO - i found that outrageous at the time, but now...

Friday April 30, 2010, 9:43 pm
catherine, i'll try to answer your questions as best i can.
josie has about 10 cats at the moment, 2 of which need treatment : renoir needs an operation for a hernia, but has to wait 3 to 4 months because he has to get stronger first; and picassa had dislocated legs - the vet advised not to operate, but try physiotherapy - which works well, but is ongoing and expensive.
in the meantime they are at josie's home, and i assume san is looking after them now but for how long i don't know - i've asked, but no answer yet (san has to get back to japan); i'm worried about that too, for it may take weeks for josie to recover, and she doesn't seem to have much support apart from san.
about moving : het BOSS decided that and found her a new place - she doesn't HAVE to move, but her present landlord makes things very difficult for her and she hardly has any space (1 room).

Sunday May 2, 2010, 11:30 am
???? Uhhh does this mean my donation didn't go to Josephia 's shelter? Confused now

Thursday May 6, 2010, 10:45 am
Yip Claudia, all our donations are 'frozen' for 180 days, because PayPal froze Josephia's account. Her account details has now been verified by PayPal's anti-fraud division, but is still subject to the 180 days ' penalty' or cool-off period..... Only after that will the money be available to Josie! It sucks big time!!!

Bugger pay-pal........

Thursday May 6, 2010, 7:40 pm
eagerly awaited update on josephia's health (capital letters are by me):

"Mam,

I too am very glad that I can be by Josie’s side when she need me the most. Of many years, she has been fighting alone in the hostile land, and though she is a strong and independent girl (aside from her will), she is, like me, and the rest of us, a human being with limitation.

At this moment, I regret to tell you that after a thorough testing by the doctors, she was denied permission to go home, because her TYPHOID was too severe. There were ULCERS IN HER INTESTINE and if she continue to enslave herself physically and emotionally like this, her GALLBLADDER might erupted and that would bring even worse outcome for her life. It doesn’t help that her LIVER was weak, and therefore, the next minute I signed her into the hospital, I saw her with some wires and i.v sticking on her hand, and she must stay that way for snd ome times, at least until she is strong enough to chew her own food.

Even so, I know we have hope. Some of her working associate told us that the hospital had assigned one of the best internist in town to handle her, and after meeting him several time, I know that the doctor is indeed knowledgeable and well experienced. He done everything in his power to assure her that she is all right and that she should really take this opportunity to rest, and though he did send some sort of a scary warning about how Josie’s body will try to repulse any kind of food that came in, He helped her cope with her and take her one step after another toward her complete healing.

It was indeed a heartbreaking moment to see her going through. Her body did reject everything that tried to comes in, even food, and watching her vomit every two minutes until she passed out due to tiredness will surely be the most haunting experience in my life. However, Josie held on, and tried the best she can, and she finally PASSED THAT CRITICAL CONDITION yesterday, after fighting for a whole week. Her iv has been reduced from more than 5 bottles to 2, and it is a good sign to now turn to her jaundice. Her liver is still in bad shape, and so tomorrow she has to undergo a few more blood test and an USG to ensure the best way to her next treatment.

During the nightmarish times, Josie is still thinking about all of you. Telling stories about you and the others she knows from Care2 seems to be lifting her heart, that every trouble she has been through is completely bearable. It is amazing how she managed to smile even when everyone frowned in sorry for her, but that only convinced me that your friendship is stronger than anyone can imagine happened over the Internet. There never been one night I am not grateful that she has each and everyone of you, and I DO know that she feels the same.

What amazed me the most is, in between her short “sober” time (she is usually between medicines), she still writes, and I have all the intention to publish it as soon as she finished the article. Meanwhile, however, please hold on to our absence for a while, and pray for Josie’s healing.

Respectfuly, ~San"

http://www.care2.com/c2c/people/profile.html?pid=367112658

Wednesday May 12, 2010, 7:00 pm
very good news, sent by josie HERSELF (fragments of her message to me) :
"I am a lot better. The i.v (the needle they put into my vein to give medicine, fluid, infusion etc) has been off and hopefully I can be strong enough to get out of the hospital this week. True that the hospital fee made my head spin, but I will figure out how to pay it. There's must be some way. I believe nothing in this world is a coincidence, and therefore, if God put me into this, He will get me out of it.
The doctor didn't want me to go back to work just yet until my jaundice is completely off, but I never intent to back down on nursing my refugees once I get home. Spending the entire 2 weeks at the hospital doing nothing is excrucitating, and I am suffering everytime I remember my cats. They are part of me, and being away from them is the worst torture possible."

Wednesday May 12, 2010, 9:31 pm
that is great news. i honestly can't believe she's doing well enough to go home soon. the cats will be overjoyed to see her. what must they think.

Wednesday May 26, 2010, 9:57 am
Has anyone read the latest? Pay Pal is holding the money that we have donated!

Tuesday June 1, 2010, 4:08 pm
Ekeim - Any more news about Josie?

Has anyone got any sensible suggestion(s) as to how we might send her some money? Bank transfers are just too ridiculously expensive - the bank charges amount to far more than many of the donated sums, for Heaven's sakes!

Thursday June 3, 2010, 12:23 am
Hi I am Josie and I am using my own acount, hahaha. I have just been released after I threatened to run away without paying ( while I alredy pay all the fee :P). I still have to go to a blood test every few days but my life is a choice, and I choose to live. I hvae a cause to fight for, a reason to continue to be happy, a bunch of wonderful friends, and a purpose in life to fulfill.

I agree that bank transfers are just too expensive. Any other paypal alternative that I tried to contact during hospitalization will charge both the buyer and the merchant 1.5% (yikes) and the other simple will direct payment through Paypal, which will definitely give us another headache.

So the best decision to make out of this worst is Western Union, like Eureka said. One convenience is that Western Union have agents everywhere so I can withdraw fund directly. The other alternative is MoneyGram, must like Western Union with another name. But, then again, they give every side a charge.

The other way around if we want to keep using Paypal is to use someone else's account, then use bank transfer every few hundred dollars. It's kind of tricky, yes, but at least everyone paid the bank once and collectively.

Last but not least, a gigantic, ocean deep gratitude. For all your support, for rooting for me. I have never thought my life is this precious, but all of you taught me a very good lesson that I will forever cherish in my life.

Thursday June 3, 2010, 9:36 am
i can't believe it! so glad you're well enough to come home. i wonder how your cats are behaving? except for a few of us, i don't think anyone is following this thread anymore. eureka will have to do a new plea. if you can find another paypal account, we could just send one donation per week. or, if you could find a non-profit, maybe they would agree to take donations on your behalf and keep a percentage for themselves.

Friday June 4, 2010, 12:03 pm
I'm still here Catherine. To do a new news story - One would have to ask Josephia if she would prepare a letter to send to people who pm her - those who want to donate. So she can PRIVATELY give them her address, telephone number etc. for Western Union 'GIFTS'. Under no circumstances must anyone say on a Western Union transfer that it is a donation. Many countries have very strict rules about it - but a gift is no problem at all.

Welcome back dear Josephia - you have been missed and always in my thoughts. God bless and take good care of yourself. And lots of love and hugs to your beloved kitties.