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Horses' Future Uncertain If NYC Carriage Rides End


Animals  (tags: animalwelfare, habitat, slaughter )

Phyllis
- 255 days ago - news.yahoo.com
While that debate could be over, at least one nagging question remains: What will become of the horses?



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Phyllis P. (406)
Monday February 10, 2014, 5:50 am
Here we go again....

Last year, roughly 140,000 U.S. horses were shipped off to slaughterhouses in Canada and Mexico when they became unaffordable, or unprofitable, for their owners.

The root of the problem is unregulated breeding, said Wayne Pacelle, president of the Humane Society of the United States. Every year, far more horses are produced than can possibly get lifetime, or even middle-aged, care. The number of sanctuaries for retired horses is small — only around 500 nationwide.

In Pennsylvania's Amish country, which is the source of many of the horses that wind up working in Central Park, this oversupply plays out weekly at the New Holland Livestock Auction. Every Monday, buyers for foreign meat factories snap up horses — many still young and healthy — that once pulled plows, buggies and carts, or even served as family pets. All have been discarded because of lackluster performance or rising costs of care.
 

Phyllis P. (406)
Monday February 10, 2014, 5:52 am
Industry critics say that turnover represents large numbers of horses who are given a brief tryout in New York but don't last because they can't acclimate to the job or urban life.

The city does not track what happens to horses that leave the business.
 

Birgit W. (147)
Monday February 10, 2014, 6:26 am
I hope those horses won't get killed.
 

Artur Bodenmueller (103)
Monday February 10, 2014, 6:42 am
Why you don't do a petition
 

Henriette Matthijssen (146)
Monday February 10, 2014, 7:18 am
A sad life for animals all around, either they work so that they can live or otherwise they are sent to slaughter! It is all about profit for humans not just that animals also have a right to live the life they were meant to live! Animals that lived their lives working should have earned a retirement at the end, not a slaughter house. My heart bleeds for all the injustice of our world! Thanks Phyllis.
 

Dandelion G. (380)
Monday February 10, 2014, 7:21 am
A petition was already done Artur the result was:

Thanks to everyone who put the pressure on the NY City Council, we finally have a bill – Intro 670 – that amends Section 17-329 Disposition of Licensed Horse of the Administrative code, which will require that the owner sell or donate the horse to either private individuals or a duly incorporated animal sanctuary, with a signed assurance that the horse will not be sold and shall be kept solely as a companion animal and not employed in another horse-drawn carriage business or as a work horse and that the horse would not be sold to auctions or slaughter.

I suggest that animal rights activist contact the Amish who seem to be a major contributor of excess horses. I also suggest that animal activist think through things first before banning anything. Where do the animals go if the ban is won? If they go quicker to their deaths what good was done? Steps need to be put in place to take care of these animals afterwards.

Just like the big push on closing Sea World is on. Where will these animals go? Many have never lived in the wilds, they don't know how to fend for themselves. Some are injured and have been taken in by Sea World for educational purposes. Who will take care of them and their medical needs? Perhaps Sea World isn't the best, I would like all animals to be respected in their own environments, but until we raise the level of consciousness I feel that some animals are needed to give education about them so that the masses will learn to respect them. I know there are worse places holding animals than Sea World, and if Sea World is closed most likely it will be these even less controlled and worse places out of the USA that will end up with the animals.
 

Carol D. (109)
Monday February 10, 2014, 7:53 am
Its a pity from the beginning that the horses were not covered by proper laws They should have been given special routes like tramways or cycle routes out of the traffic Temperatures they could work in should have been stated and days off and holidays given they are working the same as humans
 

Frances Darcy (219)
Monday February 10, 2014, 10:43 am
noted
 

Lisa sick Windsor (154)
Monday February 10, 2014, 12:06 pm
sadly noted!
 

Nils Anders Lunde (548)
Monday February 10, 2014, 2:08 pm
Sad, make a petition and we will all sign :-)
 

Pat B. (354)
Monday February 10, 2014, 2:33 pm
What sad news.!! Passing this on too. Thank you for this.
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Monday February 10, 2014, 2:34 pm
Thanks Phyllis!!
 

Mandi T. (429)
Monday February 10, 2014, 5:28 pm
Very sadly noted.
 

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Ondine J. (136)
Monday February 10, 2014, 5:42 pm
Noted very sadly. What a tortured world we live in Spam reported, thanks
 

Ruth S. (304)
Monday February 10, 2014, 6:43 pm
I agree with you Birgit W.
 

Carla van der Meer (506)
Monday February 10, 2014, 6:52 pm
Noted. If many of these horses come from tracks, lets get rid of racing. And put limits on who may breed and how often. Then there would be less poor animals being slaughtered for their meat. Spam flagged.
 

Laurie H. (719)
Monday February 10, 2014, 8:08 pm
So Sad for the animals always!!!! SPAM noted above~
 

Laurie H. (719)
Monday February 10, 2014, 8:10 pm
PS---Thank you Phyllis!!!~~~~
 

Suheyla C. (229)
Monday February 10, 2014, 10:52 pm
Thanks
noted
 

Leslene Dunn (75)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 12:20 am
Noted and signed - can they not be put out to pasture - so this is it, they have served their purpose and now its time for them to be wiped off this earth - dear God what an uncivilised and barbaric race we are!
 

Mariette AWAY (151)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 1:15 am
You are so right Laurie and I agree with you Birgit. Thanks Phyllis for posting.
 

Carmen S. (612)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 2:43 am
Thanks for sharing this Phyllis, hope the horses get the care they deserve.
 

Sylvie A. (139)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 3:23 am
Notée, partagée. Merci.
 

Sarah G. (110)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 7:54 am
The carriage drivers seem to be saying that if they don't get their way, they will kill the horses. That should tell you all you need to know about such people. They already send their horses to the killer barn as soon as they become unable to work. City traffic is not a safe environment for horses, and there really is no excuse today for perpetuating a system which has always been fraught with abuse, exploitation, and cruelty.
 

Jill Vickerman (426)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 9:45 am
Yes that sounds like what the carriage drivers will do, that is what I was so scared of ...they will kill the horses...that will to punish us all I expect, that is something I wouldn't have expected from a first world country and the most well known city in the world! I hope someone steps in and talks some sense into them...
 

. (0)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 3:40 pm
TY Phylllis. I have indeed wondered what will become of our horses once this ban goes into effect- if it goes into effect as expected as our mayor has yet to sign it into law. I do agree that some of the drivers would kill their horses out of anger as all they see is their livlihood being stripped away. Perhaps if this had been banned long ago as it should have this argument, worry would be moot. Sarah G is correct in her comments. All of these horses who have lived a life of misery should be sent to sanctuaries.
 

Phyllis P. (406)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 4:06 pm
Nice of Care 2 to work so quickly on that spammer above...NOT
 

Laetitia SCHARTNER (172)
Monday February 17, 2014, 1:23 pm
noted
 

Terrie Williams (774)
Tuesday February 18, 2014, 4:45 am
The Amish over-produce their horses like they contribute to puppy mills. They need to frikken stop already!!!.
They carriage drivers are scared because they will loose their profession once the ban goes into effect. So, they figure why not scare the hell out of the very activists that caused their profession to disappear overnight. And yes, some of them will carry out their threats and some will put out the money to ship their horse to sanctuaries in the US. If the ban is enforced, then the city should insure (translate to: pay for) that all the horses go to sanctuaries or are sold/donated to caring, thoroughly vetted individuals who will give them a loving home for the rest of their lives.
JMHO
 

Vesna Poznanovic (49)
Wednesday February 19, 2014, 12:26 am
Noted!
 

Lisa Zarafonetis (177)
Saturday February 22, 2014, 10:29 pm
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Chris V. (267)
Monday March 10, 2014, 12:50 pm
A lot of things that are printed or aired in the media are not true. The NYC Carriage horse that was reported to have died of exhaustion was later found and reported to not have been the cause of death and the veterinarian that made that report was fired from her job for making false statements. These activists are willing to lie and cheat to get their way and who suffers in the end… the horses.
Go to http://www.savenychorsecarriages.com/ to find out more about the issues. There is a good timeline of events that describes the other side of the controversy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poaSWbZeUoQ&feature=share This is why we need to look into the falsifications of the media! I wondered if they were telling the truth....THEY ARE CERTAINLY NOT! I will back the people who are giving the horses a job they enjoy!
 
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