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Syria Cluster Bomb Attack 'Kills 10 Children'


World  (tags: children, death, Syria, murder )

Stan
- 760 days ago - bbc.co.uk
Activists in Syria say a government jet has dropped a cluster bomb on a playground, leaving 10 children dead. Video posted on the internet showed children's bodies on the ground with their mothers grieving over them.



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Hilary S. (45)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 1:21 am
the fighting in syria, which has claimed the lives of close to 40,000 people, largely civilians, in the past 18 months, has slipped from the news, eclipsed by the squeaky wheel of the palestinians. their loss of about 100 people in the recent fracas with israel pales into insignificance alongside the mayhem in syria.
in australia, syria is simply no longer news.
digging up the dastardly arafat, on the other hand ...
 

Cheryl O. (82)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 1:43 am
Oh my goodness. It's terrifying to see these things happening all over the world. Most take liberty and freedom for granted, it's slipping away, and the Children of War are just caught in the crossfire. It's just so hard to imagine what this must have been like for these people. TY for sharing
 

Tommy S. (11)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 4:48 am
@ Hilary S
Well said
 

Jennifer Ward (40)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 5:24 am
The warlike nature of Islam is being ignored. The people debased and traumatized. Why is the successful and peaceful West always to blame for what Muslims do to each other?
 

Beth S. (334)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 5:44 am
It's sad that children are killed. Cluster bombs or shots to the head. You're right, Hilary, however. By the way the world reacts to 10 Syrian children being killed -- nothing -- and the way they'd react if they were Palestinian children killed by Israel -- totally apesh*t, you'd think only Palestinian children matter by world standards. But the fact is, it's antisemitism in the guise of anti-Zionism, and the truth is, even the Palestinians think their own children are expendable to the greater cause of Jihad.
 

Lee Hampton (15)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 5:49 am
You won't find the allegedly "pro-Palestinian" commentators here. If Israel didn't pull the trigger, it doesn't gain their attention. Other lives don't count.
 

Patricia Martin (19)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 5:52 am
Ros, J. Carole, Kit, are those that I think of with the other comments here. If you can't demonize an Israeli, then it's not worth commenting, by their estimation. Thanks for posting, Stan.
 

Frans Badenhorst (560)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 6:38 am
so unnecessary....
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 6:42 am
False and fabricated news.
 

Gloria picchetti (300)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 6:48 am
RIP little children. I would have taken your turn if I could have.
 

Barbara D. (79)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 7:50 am
How can there ever be peace in the Mid-East if they can't stop killing each other??? Even if Yisrael didn't exist, G*d knows these barbarians wouldn't stop.
 

Sue Matheson (76)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 9:12 am
thanks for the information
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 9:49 am
Oh, shut the hell up! Israel has and does use cluster munitions, most likely made in the US, against Palestinians. the CCM, Convention on Cluster Munitions(2008) was opposed by the USA, Israel, Russia, China, Pakistan, and Brazil, mainly because they are the leading manufacturers, Israel being the only one I know of that has used them in recent times. US Pentagon policy as of 2008 lists them as 'humane weapons'. And USA lobbying, with thanks to the UK, Canada, Australia, and Japan, arranged legal protections for military personnel of signatory nations when working in conjunction with non-signatory nations, so free pass for All of NATO, even though 18 of the 26 members signed, the USA did not.
You are allowed to be blinded by your religious bigotry but do not peddle your crap around me the facts are not up for debate and facts do not give a damn about which religious agenda you are pimping.
2006 Israel used enough CM to drop 3.2-4.6 Million bomblets on Lebanon. 2003 US Allies dropped 13,000 CM for 1.9 million bomblets on Iraq during the Gulf War. USAF 2001-2 dropped 1,228 CM for 248,000 bomblets in Afghanistan. NATO 1999 dropped 1,765 CM for 295,000 bomblets on Kosovo.
 

pam w. (191)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 11:43 am
The religion of peace seems unable to stop this behavior. And we hear about thousands of Syrian children who are cold and hungry.....where are the Muslim Aid groups? Waiting for aid from the West? Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, etc, have enormous resources and yet......people are hungry, dying and freezing.

 

Alexander Werner (53)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 12:31 pm
Lloyd, what people are saying is that using cluster bombs on playgrounds is not good.

Interesting to note, that your mentality instantly brought in Israel into the picture. To your credit, you didn't blame Zionists for the bombing.

What does this disregard for human life has to do with anyone's "religious bigotry" of those who posted here? I would say, "religious bigotry" is showing more for those posters who are greatly active to condemn Israel at a rate of 5-10 posts a day, and suddenly won't comment this tragic story as a news worthy of attention. If this is inter-Ummah conflict, don't talk about it?




 

Stan B. (123)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 1:18 pm
Samir Nassir. If you had bothered to check, this news was on the BBC World News site. Perhaps I should have used a more reliable source such as the electronic intifada.

Lloyd. Bob got it right. Your bigotry is showing. This thread is about the barbarity of the Assad regime towards its own people. If you want to post your own thread about Israel's use of cluster bombs feel free.
 

Fred H. (31)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 1:37 pm
No one even pretends to care about atrocities done to Muslims when there are no Jews around to blame.
 

Lee Hampton (15)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 1:50 pm
Lloyd says, "Oh shut the hell up!"

Spoken like a truly arrogant, autocratic jerk, who thinks he can control what other people say - so similar to the traits of the polities he defends.

Samir N., just curious on what grounds you make that claim.
 

Marilyn L. (107)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 2:14 pm
It is just plain stupid to think that you are going to have war or military type revolution and there not be civilian casualties from both sides. There isn't a country on earth that has done either and gone away without bood on their hands, civilians blood and that includes children. If you've never been in a country while war is going on or participated in uniform then you have no clue. War is hell and it is mostly hell on the country were it is fought and for their citizens. Assad is a true hard line dictator and he doesn't care who he hurts or kills but I have to wonder if even he or his air force actually targeted this playground. I am no Assad fan and the situation in Syria has gotten out of hand. If he had a decent bone in his body he would start talking peace and get a transition team ready so he can resign peacefully and a way that will help his fellow Syrian.
 

Vlasta M. (7)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 2:28 pm
Nasty misinformation about Israel is just a part and parcel of Taqiyya-Islamic principle of lying applied when dealing with Kafir (derogatory term used for non-Muslims by Qur'an and Muslims). There will not be peace in the world until Islam ITSELF reforms to make it compatible with the Universal Declaration of Human Righgs. Islam is a supremacist ideology, similar to Nazi supremacist ideology, including a delusional Jew hatred, which led to Holocaust and which Muslims would commit in the Middle East if they have a chance.

Poor Muslim children are taught to hate non-Muslims and each other, in addition to being molested (Pedophilia was sanctioned by Mohamed who married Aisha, one of his 12 second wives, when she was 6 and he was 51 and had sex with her when she was 9 and he was 54). In addition, sharia condones polygamy, misogyny, dhimmitude (second class citizenship for Christians) and murder for Allahu Akbar.

There will be no end to Islamic terrorism (which accounts for 95% of all terrorist acts) until ISlam stops teaching hate against Kafir!. Reality must take precedence over wishful thinking of political correctness and recognize facts for what they are.
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 5:05 pm
Seems like this was less than noteworthy - we heard nothing of it on the news. These sort of terrorist acts - for that is what it is - are so commonplace that people are desensitsed to these horrors. What a shocking story. Thanks Stan.
 

Gloria H. (88)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 7:35 pm
It's always the civilians who get the raw deal. They have absolutely no arms, no flak jackets....zip. Just human flesh with bullets and shrapnel tearing their bodies apart. "collateral" my ass. You'd think if we used the 90% of our brain Einstein says we never use, we could come up with some solutions. Not totally happy making on any side, but some way to protect civilians.
Anyone pissing to fight go over to one end of the room and leave the average people to live their lives in peace. There is something deep down inside of people that makes them drool to get revenge, property or "be right". Until we figure that out, do some surgery on it, the world will still demand the deaths of innocent people.
 

Aletta Kraan (146)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 8:05 pm
Noted , just terrible !
 

Carol Dreeszen (362)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 11:04 pm
What a sad sad thing to have happen! They just don't care!!! But again had it been Palestinians the news would still be going on about it!!
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 11:09 pm
Sadly, these Muslim children will be added to the growing list of the nearly 10,000,000 Muslims murdered in the past 60+ years...by Muslims! Muslims are the #1 cause of death of Muslims. If an ideal has no problem killing itself, what about those on the outside of that ideal?

Muslims killing Muslims, Sunnis killing Shi'a and vice-versa, like in Pakistan. Islam is truly a religion of peace -- NOT!

Islam ideology divides the world into two parts, the land of peace and of war. If Muslim countries like Syria are supposedly the land of peace (Daru'l-Islam), then the land of war (Daru'l-Harb: non-Muslim countries like the USA) better watch out as Islam aggressively spreads its supremacist agenda "peacefully."
 

Rob and Jay B. (121)
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 12:17 am
Well, we must say we are suspicious of this claim since it comes from the Muslim Brotherhood/Saudi-backed 'rebels' who are about as trustworthy as their Hamas brethren. Let's not forget that the rebels have staged mass bombing 'vicitms', just like Hamas does in Gaza, with fake 'dead' from supposed Syrian government attacks. The media eats it all up.

These same 'opposition' forces are ethnically cleansing all non-Muslims and non-Sunnis from their controlled areas. They have turned churches into military storage and driven out almost all Christians in areas they conquer. Under the Assad dictatorship all the minority religions have fared quite well, since they are members of the minority Alawites themselves, descendants of the ancient Cult of Angels, but, since the Muslim conquest of the area, they claim to be Muslims, though their rituals are secret and considered 'heresy' by the Sunnis who have promised to turn once-Christian Syria into a glorious Sunni Muslim state like the Paradisical Saudi Arabia, birthplace and keeper of pure Islam. (That should be enough to turn rational person off of the 'rebels').

As far as the BBC goes, we wouldn't trust anything they say if it isn't verified by a more unbiased source (which, admittedly, is very hard to find today anywhere).

It is worth noting, missing in this story, that about the only place cluster bombs are continued to be made today is the USofA which has refused to sign up on the treaty to ban them. Too much money to be made - profit always seems to trump principles every time, sadly.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 12:26 am
News could not be adopted from biased sources,like bbc ,or news from internet or from Eyewitness .I've got one question ... why does not accept these fighters in dialogue??Simply because they do not want peace,The reason is obvious because behind (Foreign agenda) ?? I hope that peace would prevail,Not only in Syria,In Iraq, Libya and Egypt and all countries that have been sabotage in the name of democracy ??? Thanks for all notes and I respect all opinions.
 

Stan B. (123)
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 12:35 am
Rob, J and Samir. Here's another report of this incident from the Saudi Gazette.

Washington, DC –" Compelling evidence has emerged that an airstrike using cluster bombs on the town of Deir Al-Assafeer near Damascus killed at least 11 children and wounded others Sunday, Human Rights Watch said Tuesday. The Syrian government should immediately cease its use of this highly dangerous weapon, which has been banned by most nations.

“This attack shows how cluster munitions kill without discriminating between civilians and military personnel,” said Mary Wareham, arms division advocacy director at Human Rights Watch. “Due to the devastating harm caused to civilians, cluster bombs should not be used by anyone, anywhere, at any time.”

According to video footage and testimony from local residents, at least 11 children were killed in the strike on Saraya neighborhood in the eastern part of Deir Al-Assafeer. Two residents told Human Rights Watch that the cluster bomb strike occurred as a group of at least 20 local children were gathered in a field where they usually play.

One witness said: “Around 2:50 p.m. a MIG 23 appeared in the sky. I was 100 meters away from the playground. I looked outside and saw the MIG hovering around and then release six cluster bombs as it flew away. I saw two breaking in half. Then I heard a series of small explosions. It sounded like fireworks but of course louder. Then I heard people screaming and running toward the playground. I followed them with the rest of the men who were with me. When I reached the playground I saw five children dead and many other wounded. The severely injured children were taken to nearby hospitals and the ones with lighter wounds to a field hospital.”

A Human Rights Watch analysis of videos posted online by Syrian activists of the scene of the attack indicates that at least three RBK-250/275 AO-1SCh cluster bombs were used in the strike. Each RBK-250/275 AO-1SCh cluster bomb contains 150 AO-1SCh antipersonnel fragmentation bomblets and creates a destructive footprint of 4,800 square meters (52,000 square feet), the equivalent of a United States football field, according to a standard international air-launched reference guide.

Markings on the cluster bomb remnants indicate they were manufactured in the Soviet Union in the 1970s. There is no information available on how or when Syria acquired them.

Video footage posted by Syrian activists of the immediate aftermath of the attack shows children and adults lying severely wounded on the ground, with injuries consistent with those caused by cluster bombs.

Cluster bomb remnants and local testimony indicate that one bomb landed in the field where the witnesses said the children were playing, a second bomb landed on a house less than 50 meters away, and the third bomb landed in farmland approximately 150 meters from the field."

I make no claim that the Syrian rebels are any more worthy of support than the Assad regime. I just felt disgusted that children were deliberately targeted by Syrian government planes.
 

robert zank (0)
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 2:10 am
with all this manipulated attention on syria one must be very sceptical. seems to me a take over of a sovereign country under the pretenses of human rights which mean nothing in the heroic west countries. evryone forget the the freindly human rights us invasion of panama? why is the world ignoring tibet an the masses jailed torchered and murdered in china? 85 tibetians have set themselves on fire in protest of the grave chinese repressiion. the controlled media is really taking you for a ride which is costing you your freedom and millions of inocent lives.
http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=32530&article=Breaking%3a+Tibet+continues+to+burn%2c+Tibetan+man+set+self+on+fire
 

robert zank (0)
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 2:15 am
this must be repeated thanks lloyd:
Oh, shut the hell up! Israel has and does use cluster munitions, most likely made in the US, against Palestinians. the CCM, Convention on Cluster Munitions(2008) was opposed by the USA, Israel, Russia, China, Pakistan, and Brazil, mainly because they are the leading manufacturers, Israel being the only one I know of that has used them in recent times. US Pentagon policy as of 2008 lists them as 'humane weapons'. And USA lobbying, with thanks to the UK, Canada, Australia, and Japan, arranged legal protections for military personnel of signatory nations when working in conjunction with non-signatory nations, so free pass for All of NATO, even though 18 of the 26 members signed, the USA did not.
You are allowed to be blinded by your religious bigotry but do not peddle your crap around me the facts are not up for debate and facts do not give a damn about which religious agenda you are pimping.
2006 Israel used enough CM to drop 3.2-4.6 Million bomblets on Lebanon. 2003 US Allies dropped 13,000 CM for 1.9 million bomblets on Iraq during the Gulf War. USAF 2001-2 dropped 1,228 CM for 248,000 bomblets in Afghanistan. NATO 1999 dropped 1,765 CM for 295,000 bomblets on Kosovo.
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 6:05 am
Bob and Stan, I brought up Israel, the USA, Russia, China et alia is response to the Islamophobic comments that preceded my comment. The fact that when offered a set of similar CM crimes committed by a variety of criminals you chose to defend Israel shows your bigotry. The facts that I stated do not in any way single out Israel, your choice to attack me based on Israel is Your bias showing. My point that you intentionally ignored is that CM are a problem promoted by the USA, Russia, China, Israel, etc. mostly based on war profiteering. Syria is just the latest and one might add the least in a long line of Cluster Munitions Criminals of which Israel happens to have used the most recently. Perhaps if your mind set was not so Pro-Israeli you might have noticed the mention of the others. And you might have noticed that, similar land mines, the USA did the most to ensure the continued use and availability of CM. You might also have a better understanding of CM as to what they are, how and by whom they have been used and who is responsible for their continued use.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 6:21 am
I can not believe the reports of those involved in the bloodshed.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 9:30 am
Lloyd,

There are Muslims who want to go to school, like Malala.

Then there are Muslims who do not want Malalas to go to school.

These are two fractions fighting until death between them.

Whose side are you on, and why can't the other side call you Islamophibic?
 

Stan B. (123)
Thursday November 29, 2012, 12:28 am
I'm sure Lloyd can work out the points you are making Bob. Whether he chooses to is another matter.
 

Vlasta M. (7)
Thursday November 29, 2012, 6:17 am
Read a re-organized copy of Qur'an which shows what a vile supremacist ideology of hate Islam ITSELF is.http://www.cspipublishing.com/pdfs/ATwoHourKoran.pdf. The original Qur'an is unreadable since it is a mambo jumbo of suras organized by their length with no rational order, with rantings against Kafir, women and promoting pedophilia, polygamy and murder make up 65% of verses. Mohamed was a pedophile polygamist rapist and murderer who in any decent society would be tried asa criminal he was and not emulated as a 'role model" by 1,600 millions of Muslims around the world, inclusion 7 millions in US and 50 millions in Europe, which had been taken over by burkhas and violent Muslim men demanding "respect" for their "SUPERIOR" Islam that they think would rule over all of other people. See Qur'an http://www.cspipublishing.com/pdfs/ATwoHourKoran.pdf.


The politically correct bleeding hearts on this discussion forum ad misdirecting their compassion toward Muslim children by their ignorance of the Islamic teachings, which cause this misery, and their ignorance of history of the Middle East and Muhammad. Read Qur'an and see how your political correctness is undermining Western civilization, which IS under attack by Islam itself, but Muslims are covering up its vile supremacist ideology and subverting US Constitution with the help of Barack Hussein Obama who is a traitor of everything that America stands for, but is a skillful demagogues using Taqiyya, the Islamic principle of lying, also a part of Qur'anic teachings which Mufti of Jerusalem improved from Goebels in Berlin, while egging Hitler on to hurry up the extermination of Jews in Europe and come to Palestine to murder them there.

Nazism and Islam are very similar and therefore have no place in any country that respects liberty and human rights. Hitler hated Christianity but had some positive things to say about Islam. particularly about their Caliphate, which he thought was similar to his Third Reich concept (see http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/adolf_hitler_on_islam_and_the_muslims.htm)
 

Paula M. (39)
Thursday November 29, 2012, 11:35 am
Horrible. Thank you for posting this article.
 
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