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Ed Schultz Concerning the 99ers.....Three Cheers for Ed....Thank You!


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: republicans, 99ers, jobs, economy, tax cuts, Iraq, Afghanistan, heartless, high speed rail )

Dandelion
- 1385 days ago - msnbc.msn.com
Long-Term Joblessness Takes Financial, Emotional, and Spiritual Toll on '99ers'. Ed Schultz tells it like it is, how for many it is already too late, people are hurting, extrodinary circumstances needs extrodinary measures. He is my new Keith Olbermann.



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Dandelion G. (387)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 12:59 pm
Well guess I didn't do so hot in getting the video centered. You can hear it still which is really the most important thing. Fighting words. If you click on VISIT SITE you can see the full video, just then close this window so you will not get double the sound.

Follow this to the end, he really will bring you to tears on a personal story. Thank you Ed for putting a human face to this.
 

Ginger Strivelli (20)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 1:17 pm
I usually agree with Ed....but I have to say with these 99ers...anyone who has been out of work for 99 weeks...nearly 2 straight years, must in great numbers be not just unemployed but unemployable. Either they do not have the skills, the talents, the social skills, the ability or the desire to be hired to a new job.

Many of them are only half-heartedly if at all looking...many are looking only for the same type of job they had. (I heard a call to Ed's show yesterday actually who talked about her husband having lost his 40 dollar an hour job and how he was only able to find 8 and 9 dollar an hour jobs now....well...maybe you'll have to dial back your standard of living, maybe your 40 dollar an hour gravy train jobs are gone but that doesn't mean ya can't accept a more modest job. Most people don't get to have a 40 dollar an hour job, youw ere lucky to ever have one.)...some of these 99ers are older workers who were in a job for decades before they lost it and are now really older than most employers want to hire brand new workers. Many are stuck in dead end communities where no jobs are and they can't afford to move where there are some jobs.
In any case after 2 years of looking for a new job, if you've not found one, you likely are not going to....unless you lower your standards and accept a job that makes less maybe even MUCH less than you did before, or move to a new area, or find a company who doesn't mind your advanced age, your lack of skills, or your bad attitude, which ever flaw is causing other firms to not hire you for the last 2 years.
My point is only that some people can not get a job...not in 2 years, not in 5 years. Some people are unemployable.
 

Gregory Hilbert (422)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 1:19 pm
God Bless Ed and you.
 

Gregory Hilbert (422)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 1:27 pm
I should have said "God Bless Ed and Dandelion".
 

Kit B. (276)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 1:31 pm
Well Empress Ginger you are dead wrong, people are looking for work that does not exist. Most are well qualified and very eager to work. Your analysis is the problem not the efforts of people. Dial back your standard of living? That's the answer? I do hope you do not find yourself an unemployed professional, facing a market of very few jobs and many unemployed all applying for the same job. Each job that is offered in this country has an average of 2,700 applicants. Professionals - those with education and experience have lost everything they have worked for all their lives and you dare stand in judgement? What a cruel, thoughtless, heartless comment.
 

Toni C. (508)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 1:32 pm
Empress Ginger... if people are "unemployable" as you say, then how are they drawing unemployment to begin with... many older workers are too old and employers want new? Come on now, talk about harsh. In this country, anyone who wants to and needs to work should be able to support themselves and their families, period! Most of us have never riden the "gravy train" of which you speak... we're just hard working people, trying to do the best we can with what we have to work with. Had sad you have taken that stance.
God bless, Ed... at least there are some humanitarians left in the world...
 

Toni C. (508)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 1:40 pm
I currently cannot send Kit B a green star... sorry, Kit, you certainly deserve it!!
 

Gloria Fernandez (20)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 1:42 pm
Thanks Dandelion noted and shared it.
 

Vikram Chhabra (394)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 1:43 pm
Being jobless can lead to depression and low self esteem which effects the job search. We need a more compassionate world in which we treat people in misfortune properly. Thanks for posting this Dandelion!
 

Just Carole (338)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 2:05 pm

Well, I guess if you're an "Empress" you don't have to be in touch with the feelings and problems facing commoners.

Trust me, anyone who's ever collected unemployment understands that it's only a fraction of the pay they could barely exist on before becoming jobless!

Thanks, Sheryl.

 

Norm C. (74)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 2:33 pm
Empress, Really? What planet are you living on? Please do not take any of my further comments as a reflection or comment on your comment.
___________

To the rest of us,

With the GOP determined to KEEP this Great Recession going as an elecdtoral strategy to defeat Dems, as they did in 2010 and will in 2012 and beyond, instead of solving the economic problems, unemployment these days has very little to do with the unemployed as it rarely ever does. It has far more to do with conservative ideology, not even counting the mindless ideology that caused this Great Recession, of preventing We the People from helping each other, of turning We the People from citizens and neighbors into isolated consumers and may yet turn this economic mess into the Second Great Republican Depression.

Why do so many find it so hard to look behind the veil of BS and propaganda? Why is the first reaction of so many to assume that the victim is always to blame? Why is simple and lazy the predominant approach to problems? Is the prospect of reading and studying so terrifying that the followers of fear and hate rely instead on regurgitating the spewage from the dividers and intimidators. Why do so many revel in their victimhood while denying it to anyone else?
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 2:39 pm
Ouch Empress Ginger. Should the person who spent $100,000 for their education be happy with $8 an hour? They still have their student loans to pay for, why did they bother to get an education if they end up with an $8 an hour job?

But in fact I've seen stories that there are people who are working at Starbucks for that and they had an upper management job or teaching position. In fact the young man that flips hamburgers nearby where I live at the local McDonalds, has his law degree and can't find a job doing of all things being a Lawyer. He has to live at home with parents just to work to pay off a degree he can't use now, let alone afford an apartment over his head.

Perhaps they can downsize or as you said dial back their standard of living......I suppose so, IF they can sell their home. How can one move for another job if they can't sell their home? Try selling a home that is underwater or sell it before it goes into foreclosure. These people can't even get the banks to help them refinance. As Ed said, "have you ever tried to get a job when your credit is blown?"

Don't you think it would of been better to be on a level playing field with other Countries? Or should we lower our standard of living so low we are also making $2 a day, living in tents or cardboard shanty towns? Would it not be better for job creation so that those who are seeking work can find work, in their field, or be at least re-trained for another job that pays a living wage?

You said basically forget the older workers most want to hire brand new. Well I see you are 40 years old, just remember, you will be in your fifties one day too. In fact with that thinking a lot of employers would be finding you too old now as well. So in this Country only youth gets to work?, Reach an older age and sit on the street corner collecting alms? Perhaps all the older people should do everyone a favor and just starve to death and die, oops you are 45, you are too old to live in this Country.

Good for you Empress, that you can travel around magical Mother Earth according to your profile. You can be carefree and with no compassion of another American who, through no fault of their own lost their job via outsourcing, downsizing, unfair trade agreements, Wall St. speculation and bad Governmental policies.

Did you watch the video? Did you still say what you said after listening all the way to the bitter end? About the woman whose unemployment benefits ran out that she had to sell her wedding ring for $20. The symbolic bond she has from a 37 year marriage, her husband now deceased. Don't you think Empress, that this woman would of done any kind of job, if she could of found one, so she wouldn't have to sell her wedding ring?

The ending to this video just TORE MY HEART OUT.......I had tears filling my eyes, and yet you could come on this thread and speak the way you did? Amazing.

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Mac R. (289)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 2:42 pm
Empress Ginger, you could have just copied and pasted your comments from any number of hardline Republiscum. This is the vilification of the American worker that they have been pushing and pushing on the people to shape the attitude that the problem is with the people, the workers and not with the corporations who refuse to create jobs here. Your view is insulting to people who are hard working and desperately want to work. You listed several of the reasons people cannot find jobs no matter how hard and long they try, yet you still blame them for it.

I say shame on everyone who repeats this insulting and derogatory view of unemployed American workers! Quit blaming them for the corporations sending their jobs overseas! Just stop it! My blood boils every time I hear or read this hard right party line. You are flat wrong!
 

Ramona Thompson (210)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 3:04 pm
Ginger my first inclination was to scream profanitites at you, but I choose a higher road.

I will send you instead blessings that I truly mean: I hope you are never unemployed, I hope you are never hungry. I hope you are never homeless. I hope you are never fired. I hope you are never laid off. I hope your job is never outsourced. I hope you are never in need of medical care or a prescription you cannot afford. I hope you are never afraid of how you are going to feed your children. I hope you are never desperate about how to clothe your children. I hope you never have your utilities turned off. I hope you never know poverty. I hope you are never harassed incessantly by creditors you cannot pay. I hope you never are on the receiving end of a fraudulent mortgage. I hope above all hope that you will learn to have compassion for those who are less fortunate than you, who through no fault of their own have fallen on hard times and now only know destitution and despair no matter how hard they try, no matter how many different directions they turn.

I hope... God forbid anything bad happen in your life but if it... does and if any of these things do happen to you that no one will look down their nose at you, or belittle you, or ridicule you, or call you names, or make you feel less than human or worthless.

I hope others show you compassion and a caring heart.

In other words Ginger, I wish you the best no matter what happens in your life.
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 3:11 pm
With that being said, so very well in fact Ramona, I thank goodness that we have people like Ed Schultz who are on TV speaking up on behalf of all those who are hurting and suffering. Thank you Ed.
 

Pamylle G. (462)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 3:19 pm
You go, Ed !
It is my observation that there are very few jobs. Even crappy jobs at supermarkets & MallWart are offering only part-time positions with NO benefits, most of the paycheck going for high rents.
 

Ramona Thompson (210)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 3:26 pm
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Ramona Thompson (210)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 3:28 pm
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Jae A. (322)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 3:29 pm
I am so lucky to not know anyone,outside of cyber space, that is as blind,classless and hateful as those like E. Ginger appears to be from her alter ego comments above. Her entire comment sounds like some propaganda email sent out by the Anti-American Tea Bagger organization. How can anyone have no thoughts of their own is a mystery to me, but she is one example of such a person. How can anyone take someone like her serious ?
Oh well, when she is ill and can't get medical care and hunry and can't afford food or shelter...I for one will have no pity for those like her. The only plus side is that she and others like her,who don't think it will ever happen to her...is that it will. That's a given...and those she knows,probably calls friends, will not lend a penny or any kind of helping hand to her as they are under the same thinking as she...she will be alone when she finds herself in need the most.
 

Ramona Thompson (210)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 3:32 pm
Thank you dear Gregory for my green star. Ramona Thompson
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 3:39 pm
This is very true Pamylle, even if one can find a job, it's part time or the salary does not pay for the rent. Even rents in the ghetto only go so low. I like what Ed said, extrodinary circumstances requires extrodinary measures.

As Ed said, they always moan about how to pay for job creation measures or putting people to work, yet can find the money to fund the wars, the tax cuts for the most wealthy. I have listened to this several times, is like my listening to Bernie Sanders, we need more of these compassionate people.
 

Barbara K. (75)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 4:03 pm
Heartless Ginger, (sorry, I know you are not any kind of royalty); I think you should take heed of the rest of the comments on this item. Your turn will come, when you will be out of work for one reason or the other, and I think that would be a good thing. You need to learn what it is like to be homeless and jobless and broke, and I hope you get a chance to learn it very soon. If you had any sense, you would know there are not enough jobs for all the millions who lost their jobs thru no fault of their own. There is no such thing as a person who lost his/her job being unemployable. They had jobs, did that escape you? You are nothing but the scum that forms on the bottom of the shoes of the unemployed. I bet you are living off the government in one way or the other. You need to get out and try to find a job and see how successful you are before you wallow in the gutter and try to act so high and mighty, you're a bagger and there is nothing so high and mighty about those idiots.
 

Barbara K. (75)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 4:07 pm
By the way, I've watched the Ed Show for a long time, he was moved from 6:00 to 10:00, sure wish this great man could have stayed at the earlier hour. But I will watch him no matter what time he is on. He is a hero to the real American people. Thanks to all the real Americans who put great comments on this story, and thanks, Dandelion for the posting. As long as there is money to pay for wars, there is money to take care of us.
 

Ramona Thompson (210)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 4:18 pm
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Jeannette A. (146)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 4:28 pm
"Empress" Ginger... your very choice of a name indicates that you place yourself and your views above that of the struggling masses. You remind me of another Royal during the French Revolution who, when told the peasants were starving and couldn't afford bread, said "let them eat cake!".
Your Tea Bagger attitude is one full of cruelty, small mindedness and is shameful. May life hand you a path that leads to compassion, humility and service to others.
 

wooddragon xx (88)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 4:32 pm
Cheers Dandelion..

Do you know this whole economic situation reminds me of a Film called Soylent Green. Do you think that the con-servatives in the US and the UK (we are having the same problems too) have a possible agenda with the older generation?? Do you think that maybe that is the reason for not helping to create jobs for the older workers?? You never know what the cons have up their selves...

And if you have never seen this movie (or have any idea what i am talking about!! :0), here is a synopsis (with no spoliers!)...

The year is 2022. New York City has become overpopulated with 40 million people and pollution has caused the temperature to be risen and all natural resources have been destroyed, leaving 40 million people starving, poverty stricken people. The only way they survive is with water rations and eating a mysterious food called Soylent...
A detective investigates the murder of the president of the Soylent company. The truth he uncovers is more disturbing than the Earth in turmoil when he learns the secret ingredient of Soylent Green.

Just something that came to mind while I was reading all your comments...

Peace to you all and God/dess help us!!! ;0)
wooddragon

 

Ramona Thompson (210)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 4:34 pm
Forgive me, but I have to repeat a statement I have made numerous times in the past.

There are more of "US drones" (those who have to work, are looking for additional work, are out of work, who are retired from work, etc) than there are of Elite-ests. There is power in numbers.***

The holier-than-though attitudes need to watch what has just happened in Tunisia, and what is happening in Egypt when food prices are high, fuel prices are high, unemployment is high, corporate corruption is high, and political corruption is high.

We all are going to get old sooner or later as Barbara and others have said, and everyone finds out in time what it is like to be "turned out to pasture" simply because of time and age moving on.

I grew up with parents who survived The Great Depression. I felt like I knew it, I believed I understood it. I was wrong. Until you have "lived it" as we in the USA have lived as we have over the past decade or longer watching the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and have "The Haves" try to make "The Have Nots" believe they are the problem, then it's just head knowledge and not true heart knowledge. I

Bravo Tunisia!*** Bravo Egypt!*** At least you have the courage to unite and to stand against evil tyranny.

 

Barbara K. (75)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 4:36 pm
Wooddragon, I saw the movie, "Soylent Green" you refer to, many years ago. I recommend that everyone see that movie. It is a real eye opener. Thanks for your comment on it. Very timely, I must say.
 

Jae A. (322)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 4:38 pm
Love Ed's show. Started watching it from the very first day he was on. His focus on the middle class and poor is as exceptional as it is passionate. He is a voice of the working class with serious concerns for those who are jobless due to the out sourcing of jobs and eight years of a failed presidency that was Dubya Bush's that took it's toll on too many hardworking Americans. He is a rallying point for equal rights,fair wages in the job place, and for our right to privacy. He favors smaller government with a focus on societies growth/betterment for our tax dollars...and not just that of the Corporates.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 4:59 pm
Noted, thanks. Lots of green stars for Ed, Dandelion and everyone else... except for the Empress without empathy.
 

Trish K. (93)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 5:29 pm
My Niece and brother in law must be unemployable too. Actually they are Over Qualified for the jobs that are left. These two are well educated professionals and they've trimmed enough for a lifetime.
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 5:48 pm
Wooddragon, I do recall that movie, and in fact it is what I was thinking in the back of my mind when I was writing that. Too much of what had been placed in movies seem to have a way of actually happening, is very spooky, this is one area I hope does not come true.
 

Kit B. (276)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 6:18 pm
I see many here are well familiar with Ed and I wonder if others noticed a change as I have, since he moved time slots? He seems more thoughtful, less aggressive and yet has more punch in his choice of words. This was an excellent video, though I did see it on air. I have also been impressed with Laurence O'Donnell, even before he came to MsNBC, his shows are outstanding and he has no tolerance for fools.
 

Mary L. (138)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 6:58 pm
Sorry but one piece of information the Empress doesn't have. The longer someone is unemployed the harder it is to get reemployed. At 6 months it's very difficult, a year means it's nearly impossible, the chances go down fevery day you aren't already working.

My husband has applied for everything in his field he's qualified for. He's applied for minimum wage jobs, jobs outside his field anything.

It's been four years and people who are in human resources have bluntly told him it's pretty well hopeless, he should just give up, and every day he sends out resumes, fills out on line applications and waits.

He's not the only one, there are more and more people who've lost everything and I think that you need to meet people before you start judging them.

Volunteers are needed everywhere. Give it a try then let me know what you think now. I'd really be interested.
 

James W. (262)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 7:42 pm
NOTED & FORWARDED
 

Carmen S. (69)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 8:07 pm
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kit you hit it right on the head again. And thank you off line you too have said it like it is.

It is so easy to make some allegations until you are behind the eight ball then reality sets in.
 

Charles Wallis (43)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 8:28 pm
Ed has it right. I admire his dedication and passion
 

Linda G. (187)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 8:48 pm
Unfortunately she who calls herself "Empress" has bought into the mean-spirited rhetoric of the far right. I worked in my field for 45 years (banking, finance & mortgage). I was laid off in 2008, was lucky to find another job at 1/3rd the pay and about 1/4 of the income mentioned by Ginger. I then hurt my back, had to quit to do the daily physical therapy. That took 8 months and I had no income, no unemployment insurance benefits but I was blessed to have savings to live on. As my back healed, I started looking for work but in a small town even though I applied for any sort of job, at any sort of minimum wage, at my age and with my "overqualification" I applied a zillion times with no luck. But now after nearly 2 years looking, today I found a part-time job at a local mom and pop hardware store with no benefits but it is a job and though the pay is low, I am ecstatic to have a job again.

I believe the vast majority of people who are out of work are not lazy, not looking for a "perfect" job, are willing to work 2 or 3 jobs if they could find them and want the satisfaction of caring for themselves and their families. Although there are those who believe people want a handout or a gravy train, I don't believe that is true and is just more rhetoric that serves to try to divide us. Those who spread the demeaning idea that lots of Americans are lazy and are "unemployable" have an agenda and it's not one that benefits America or Americans.

American used to be a country where we all stood up for each other. I want that America back.
 

Deanna Zimmerman (74)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 8:52 pm
That was a great commentary. Thanks for sharing. I also can't find work, but I've only been looking for a little over a month (75 applications and rejections so far). I'm frustrated and dejected. And I still can't imagine how someone feels who is supposed to be supporting a family. How awful must that be.

Ginger, I am not so generous as some others here. I actually wish for you the Golden Rule. You believe the disgustingly ugly lies about others. I wish for your ugliness to come back to you.
 

Robert S. (115)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 9:13 pm
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Agnes H. (144)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 10:34 pm
As a Non American I can only say that although with it's faults Australia is still the Lucky Country. I know of a lot of people here who are looking for a job, after finnishing their studies, can't get a job........because they are OVERQUALIFIED. Yes they refuse jobs because you've studied too much and too hard!
On the other hand there were 3 youngsters, between the age of 18 and 22. They were offered jobs, but had to change slightly, as it was in one of our top restaurants. The 22 yr old who had long hair, would have to cut his hair as he had to look smart behind the register and while taking orders. The 20 yr old one had to take all his earrings out. If you can call them earrings? He had them above his eyes, around 10 in each ear, in his tongue and his lips. He refused to do that as that wouldn't be HIM! The 18 yr old had to wear an uniform which didn't go down well and that job was refused. They were brothers and sister!! They weren't serious.

On the other hand there are people looking for jobs and get told they are too old! Why? Because the bosses will have to pay too much to them, they'd rather pay an apprentice and once he's qualified (s)he can go and find another job as he's no longer wanted! I believe the same thing is happening in America! I believe they are better to try and join the Forces Voluntarily and keep on studying for promotion. I'm glad my sons have choosen that path
 

Michael Carney (211)
Thursday February 10, 2011, 11:19 pm
Ed, is great, I love his show, and he tells it like it is, to steal a phrase from Howard Cossell...Empress you out to be ashamed of what you left as your comment...Do you work for the Tea Party...I was actually embarrassed for you, over those comments...i think you're fibbing saying you usually agree with Ed...No one who would agree with Ed, would ever write what you wrote...Have you ever heard of the word compassion, and know what it means?
 

Natalie Away J. (125)
Friday February 11, 2011, 12:16 am
Thanks Dandelion. I live outside the US but this is a growing circumstance worldwide, unemployment is rising worldwide. I have known professional people out of a job, and one started selling her best clothes to survive, that could not have been easy for her. There are many poor people out there. On another note, I've seen footage in the UK of a Zimbabwean family trying to survive - the father had cut down small branches of a tree and they were eating a tree to survive, I don't think I can ever forget that.
 

Natalie Away J. (125)
Friday February 11, 2011, 12:21 am
for E. Ginger who comments: Either they do not have the skills, the talents, the social skills, the ability or the desire to be hired to a new job.

A rather heartless comment because the people I have known out of a job were definitely skilled, one was a doctor, and they all definitely had the ability and desire to acquire a job.
 

Arild Warud (169)
Friday February 11, 2011, 1:34 am
Thanks for sharing Dandelion.
 

Geynell Eskite (68)
Friday February 11, 2011, 2:45 am
The majority of unemployed Americans didn't lose their jobs through any fault of their own. Their jobs were taken away. They do not struggle to find work because of lack of initiative. If your skill set, experience, training and work history center around an industry that pulled up and left town, finding comparable work can be an incredible challenge. If a former union-wage employee took a full-time minimum wage job, it would not be adequate to meet their mounting bills, and the time constraints would make looking for a better job nearly impossible. People have been suddenly tossed out of white-collar, high education jobs too. People struggling with unemployment need our help, encouragement and compassion. Ed Schultz has always been on the side of the "little-guy". Thank goodness someone in the media is on their side.
 

Deni Hall (77)
Friday February 11, 2011, 3:07 am
Bravo Dandelion!! Thanx SO much for sharing!
Someone needs to buy time on a major network & air this!!
It's SO understandable to all ages & levels of comprehension!!
We need more Ed Schulz's at the forefront!
 

patricia lasek (317)
Friday February 11, 2011, 3:29 am
Excellent comment! I watch Ed every day. He makes so much sense but the senseless don't listen.

Empress, shame on you!
 

DORIS L. (61)
Friday February 11, 2011, 5:50 am
I'm wih Ed. Thanks, Dandelion.
 

Ian MacLeod (79)
Friday February 11, 2011, 8:14 am
Dandelion - Is there a way to redo this? I have to mute the computer's sound system as there's no control on the embedded video. It just plays non-stop. Other than that, excellent post - thanks! I'll add a comment a bit later. I've close cousin, five months older than I, just diagnosed with colon cancer, and she knows nothing about treatments other than chemo, surgery, etc. - hack, poison and burn. I need to get some info to her.

Ian
 

Angelika R. (144)
Friday February 11, 2011, 8:39 am
I can just second his words : DAMN YOU REPS YOU HAVE NO HEARTS; NO SOULS- and bless you Sheryl and so many others here for their lovely comments. It generates a rising star for you.- Hm, perhaps a falling one for Empress?.. I think she just echoed the right-wing mindmap..
 

Ramona Thompson (210)
Friday February 11, 2011, 8:47 am
Mary I sent you a green star. Please give your family our most sincere regards. I continue to wish everyone the best.

I understand your family circumstance which has also happened to millions of others through no fault of their own. You too, Linda, and all others who have been displaced by evil corporatism in one form, method, or another.

What cowardice and out-of-touch-with-reality-person-or political party attacks or belittles those who suffer because of unemployment; those who have applied for thousands of jobs for 6 months, 2 years or more who are not even given a chance at being a superstore greeter, or who have sold their wedding ring to just survive?

SHAME SHAME SHAME on the MEMEME people. Do you think pointing mean fingers at these victims somehow lessens culpability? Look within, for the putrification.

Did any of us ASK for the Wall Street fiascos, the obscene corporate bonuses, the fraudulent loans, the oursourcings, the layoffs, the plant closures, the corporate bailouts or stimuli that we taxpayers footed but received no "direct individual" reliefs? No, but I have to admit I allowed it to happen as a voting citizen.

Are there really people out there who do not realize a person cannot draw unemployment unless they have worked, paid the bulk of UEC taxes, and/or if they did anything to cause the unemployment? HELLO???

YES, we need more Eds, Keiths, Lawrences, Rachels, but we need to unite just like the TBs/GOPs (it appears after all they may not really care 100% for one another, just use one another as a conduit of reaching common goals) and create a formidable force with a political leader who has the courage to stand against the tyranny of evil corporatism.

(WTG! Keep the limelight on the Koch Brothers, Thomas, and Scalia. )

I've been hearing you sing loud and clear, Dandelion, and I have been singing along with you. I may not be able to carry a tune, but I sure know the words.

"Long Live the Forbidden Song of Estonia" and may it be sung loud and clear in the streets of The United States of America!
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Friday February 11, 2011, 8:52 am
You cannot currently send a star to Linda AWAY because you have done so within the last week.

I want that America back as well Linda. Good luck on your new position in hardware, it took a Mom and Pop store to give you a chance back into a job, although I understand it is far from perfect in hours, pay, benefits. You see, it is always the ones who can least afford it that will offer what little they have to those who have even less. I do my best where I can to support the Mom and Pop stores, if we all do that, then maybe they will be able to offer the Linda's of the world more hours. If we could get the health care programs off the small business backs then all the employees as well as the employers could have health care if we had a Universal Health Care system in this Country like other Countries have.

This Lone Ranger approach of the rugged individual in this Country has only helped the few at the very top. The ruthless stepping on peoples back to suck out every dollar from those at the bottom to bring to the very top. As Ed Schultz said, we are road kill, and the Elites don't care, in fact they have spread their propaganda down the pipeline so well that people like Empress Ginger has bought into it, and she unfortunately isn't the only one, she just happened to jump on this thread and said what many do believe, crap that was fed to the media and spewed out into people's homes like it was gospel. Not based on fact, for if that was the case that it works so wonderful based on fact, we'd have a well tuned and well run Country.....but we don't. Don't they see that?

These Elites, who have bought out a lot of the media, have bought out many of our polititicans, have bought out some in our Supreme Court, are having a field day pitting the average citizen against each other. Some Americans who are still by some stroke of good fortune that are still doing well, sit back and go, oh yes, it must be those workers fault, it's the darn Unions, or they are lazy, or they are not trying hard enough, they are too old and therefore useless. It is all smoke and mirrors to keep your eye off the real culprits that have caused this mess.......please look over there, or there, but don't look at us in the Chamber of Commerce. I can't even put the U.S. in front of their name anymore, they are anything but for the U.S. Might as well knock that right off. People need to start doing some research and not buy into the sound bites. Because Empress and the many like you out there buying into the crap, it is only a matter of time before it comes and bites you in the butt and then you will wished that someone had spoken up for you, in fact it will be a rude awakening when you wish you had spoken up louder FOR not AGAINST the common worker, laborer, American, in your own Country.

I don't like to personally attack one person and I feel that it was unfortunate for her that she took the first stab at this thread. However, I also know there are too many who believe this way, and the compassion is at an all time low in this Country.

Even people that will be compassionate towards the animals or other people in other Countries seem to have little compassion for their own neighbors around them, their own fellow citizens, their own fellow human beings that they walk around each day, who shop in the same grocery store, who stand at the bus stop with them, who attend the PTA meetings alongside them at the schools, who they see homeless sitting on the side of roads, these are all your brothers and sisters in the world. Even the homeless have their stories and you may be surprised to hear what that story is. Not all are homeless due to drugs and alcohol, sure some are, but there are many others who are not, but are they because of lack of medical care, lack of jobs, lack of affordable housing, they had a spouse who died and they just went into a deep depression, each of them is a worthy human being that needs our compassion, not pity, but our compassion, a leg up not a hand out.

So as Ed Schultz has said, call it Socialism call it whatever you will, I call it compassion, I call it equitable, I call it having a Heart. You know my ancestors use to Honor the Elders in their Nations, they Honored them as they had lived a long time, had contributed much to the Nation in their younger years, now in the Elder years the younger ones had looked to them for their wise words, for the direction, but today......in this society, it is kick the older ones to the curb.

Empress was not wrong when she said, the Employers want the younger ones, I think she could of phrased it better, but this is the type of mentality that Corporate holds. Corporate use to pay the long time worker more money as the worker had earned them money along the way in their labor, hence it was a bit of a thank you, we the Company have done well and you the worker helped us to do that, so for your many years the Company or Corporation will pay you a bit higher in pay. Because of your loyality to the Company over the long run, we will see to it that when you reach your older years that you will have a retirement of sorts so you do not end up on the sidewalk.

Now the Corporations want ALL of it, so hire the youth, pay them not much, then when they get too many years find a way to rid them, keep turning that labor over, no loyality there, and when they reach a certain age don't hire them either, they might need a bit of medical attention. Again, another reason to sever the medical away from the employers and have a National Health Care Policy, call it what you will Single Payer or Universal, but these cut throat days of being loyal to their employees are gone, and what worked when the health care and employer were joined at the hip in the 1940's does not work today. So call this new way of providing Health Care to the American people, call it Socialism call it what you will. as Ed Schultz said, I DON"T CARE! What I DO CARE about is that the human beings in this Country are shown some dignity and compassion.....THAT I CARE ABOUT!
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Friday February 11, 2011, 9:02 am
Ian, yes I'm sorry about that, as I said in the beginning I didn't get it right this time. I can only suggest you turn down the volumn while you type and that way the speaking will not interfere with your writing. I'm also sorry to learn of of your cousin with the colon cancer, and I hope she does at least have medical insurance.

I have a personal friend here in Florida that was also told she has colon cancer and she has no medical insurance. What savings she had went to help her husband who died 4 years ago of cancer himself, and he only son had a horrific motorcycle accident a year and half ago that wiped out anything else she had as he also did not have medical insurance, they all worked by the way, it's just that no employer offered medical insurance and the high priced policy on her husband paid little. When she saw how little it paid for the high premiums she now having to work less to take care of her son had to drop her own, now she has colon cancer. So we are all trying to help raise some money for her with yard sales, dances, and such.

This is not what should be at all happening, the luck of the draw. She is a wonderful woman, worked hard, and yet, due to illnes and an accident now finds herself sick and has no medical insurance. And this is what America should be about? But we can spend billions on bombs! We can give major tax breaks to the Ultra rich!

There are many Americans that can see what is wrong with this picture, will the rest of them please wake up.
 

Jo-Ann Harris (85)
Friday February 11, 2011, 9:06 am
Thank you Ed...KUDOS to you!!! I'm from Canada and find it deplorable that unemployed people only get 6 months worth of unemployment. I myself was on for a year plus an additional 2 months due to the economic situation and the tenure of my employment status ( prolonged employee at the same company for numerous years).
As for you Princess Ginger...come and see me in a few years when you reach your 50's and well see where you stand on the job market. I have been unemployed for two years and am very employable. How dare you suggest that these people are unemployable and lazy. The seasoned worker has much experience and skills to offer an employer, as opposed you you young wiper snappers that change jobs every two to five years. We offer stability and wisdom that you can't conceive and have no knowledge of. We are up against many obstacles of age, time off work, etc...that you can't understand. Your primary concern is money...money...money!!! Please get real and join life....how dare you insult seasoned employees with you ignorant barter. Like I said come see me in a few years from now and we'll see how you feel then when you have been let go because of your age, economy, and the fact that two new hires can replace you for less money.

 

Mandi T. (430)
Friday February 11, 2011, 9:24 am
Thanks Ed. and Sheryl for the great post. !!
 

Ian MacLeod (79)
Friday February 11, 2011, 10:52 am
Dandelion and others - please pardon the off-topic posts here. I'll try and keep it short.

There are a great many alternative treatments that, by all reports, work FAR better than the surgery/chemo route, which, if you get the REAL stats, doesn't work worth a damn. It's only good for siphoning money out of insurance companies and patients. Just a few treatments include hydrazine sulfate, food grade hydrogen peroxide, there's a sugar cane extract that seems to work - plus there are the RF frequency treatments, the Beck microcurrent protocol and on and on and on. Oh - and something about a sugar cane extract, then another about cumin (takes a one special species though - check Dr. Mercola's site). The list is endless, and I read recently that there have been over a thousand different cures viciously suppressed by the FDA. I don't dount it. I'm gathering up all the info I can find now for my cousin, but the disease seems to be something my family is vulnerable to, so I'd better know this stuff myself! And I KNWO none of my doctors would even consider telling about any of it. I took myself off the diabetes drugs (they cause heart attacks and other problems), I stopped taking the statin drugs they were feeding me ( a small diet change fixed the cholesterol AND the diabetes tests), and about ten other medications. I was taking 17 pills in the morning, fifteen mid-day, ad another 17 at night. Now I'm taking five pharmaceutical meds, two of those are for pain, one a day for BP, and some supplements. I'll be stopping the BP med too shortly, but don't want to throw my docs into shock or anything by doing it all too suddenly. They have me down in my VA chart as "an uncooperative patient," and they write that I "read AN article and quit my statin drugs," as though one article would cause me to do that! I quit them after after six months of research! I found out years ago though that VA doctors lie in the medical records to cover their own asses.

Ian
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Friday February 11, 2011, 11:22 am
Unfortunately, too many of us patients now have the term "uncooperative patient" next to their name. It's the same deal of being a compassionate individual and wanting to see our Country going in a better direction, as we don't want to play ball, we are termed unpatriotic and such things.

I had a surgeon tell me the only way my shoulder was ever going to get better was via surgery. Well I never had the surgery and my shoulder is fine, thank you very much. I also control colitis with a minor change in diet and with relaxation techniques rather than the medicine they wanted to keep me on.

A friend of mine has had great success in the methods she uses for her hepititis, better results than she was getting with what her Dr. was doing, and she went to several Dr's, so now she just does what she does and gets the blood work, She feels better her counts are better.

Perhaps not for everyone, but we seemed to be pushed into only one way to do things when there are other ways to do things, and maybe a way that might even work better. Please share any information on this cancer and treatment as it is one that is on the rise. That too does not surprise me with all the chemicals and crap they put into our foods.
 

Constance F. (430)
Friday February 11, 2011, 11:46 am
I cannot say anything new, that might have already been said. Except I don't know that America that stood up for each other. If that America existed, all Americans would have health insurance, every single one. That would have happened years ago because the American people would see it as a crime for their citizens not to have access to healthcare. I was 24 years old, and I used to try to talk to people, nice people, about socializing our healthcare system, making sure people had healthcare. Nobody gave a crap then, and the fact that maybe a few more people do now, is because they lost their benefits. Compassion means having the ability to truly feel and understand the situation another is in, even if you are not or have ever been in that situation.
 

Gregory Hilbert (422)
Friday February 11, 2011, 11:48 am
The vast majority of readers of this post obviously realize that many millions in the USA and worldwide became unemployed through no fault of their own, and remain unemployed because there are far fewer jobs than qualified job seekers.
Millions more in the past two years found low-paying fulltime or part-time work but have lost their homes or life savings. Many millions more are struggling to make ends meet after taking pay cuts. Millions have discontinued their health, dental or life insurance for inability to pay the premiums.
Millions face bankruptcy and impoverished retirement. Stress, hardship, fear, anxiety, humiliation, frustration, depression, chaos, confusion, despair, physical and emotional suffering and exhaustion visit many of all those millions on a daily basis, even if many often endure in silence, in spirited perseverance, or denial.

They are not statistics. They are our mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, aunts, uncles, nephews, nieces, cousins, friends, neighbors, countrymen, fellow human beings, and, increasingly, ourselves.

Tragically, the class war in effect being waged by the wealthy few against the bottom 80% continues unabated. It is astonishing how many in that bottom 80% have been duped into supporting the very policies and practices that are impoverishing even themselves. Take as but one example the renewal of tax cuts for the wealthy at cost of hundreds of billions despite the huge deficit, despite the irrefutable proof of historical experience that the wealthy do not rush out to put their windfall into job-creating investments.
Tragically, our elected representatives are more often than not an echelon of the powerful and wealthy elite they serve, despite lip service to the contrary. Tragically, USA media in the collective general sense have become an instrument and beneficiary of our propagandized manipulation, Ed being an exception to the talking-head entertainers who failed to report the travesty of the tax cuts they themselves would enjoy.

Tragically, we can watch CNN supportively publicize the cause of the protestors in Egypt, and we can admire its people for overthrowing the Mubarek-pinnacle of its elite, but we ourselves have no CNN championing the overthrow or even the reining in of the powerful and wealthy elite whose tyranny we ourselves suffer.

We must be comforted that there is yet an Ed, a Dandelion, people like those here who persist and press for action and model their compassion. So long as we have that, we can hope, and hopefully we can endure and one day have something to celebrate comparable to what they now celebrate in Egypt.
 

donald Baumgartner (6)
Friday February 11, 2011, 12:20 pm
Ed's THE BEST, NEXT TO KEITH OLBERMAN!!
 

Stella AWAY W. (258)
Friday February 11, 2011, 1:58 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Jae because you have done so within the last week. - and that's the flippin story on so MANY of you!!! Yes, Empress Ginger (are you Cleopatra's sister???) WILL get to 'ground zero' and WILL have no 'carers' and it won't be ANYone else's fault, she brought it on herself! I'm not American, praise the Lord, but how inhuman your views - I know MANY people prepared to do ANY kind of job but not being able to get appointed!! Around here Graduates are working as porters in hospitals and thank God for that, last year they saved my son's life; if it was your 'usual' porter he/she would NEVER have known what to do!!! Pray God you never reach the level/state most of these people are in! I can relate to what they are experiencing and assure you it's not through any FAULT of their own - it's the flippin corporates/politicians on the 'gravy train' that threw the 'masses' into this desperate state of survival!! And yes, there's many alternatives around, doctors DO lie to cover their own flippin asses (and pockets!!). Yes, YOU are responsible for staying informed about how to treat your own health challenges but you also have a RIGHT to be employed and earn a living to support your own family!!
 

Susan S. (191)
Friday February 11, 2011, 6:35 pm
Thanks.
 

Robert S. (115)
Friday February 11, 2011, 7:28 pm
Sounds pitch perfect to me, Thompson. Right on Dandelion, and good to see you Gregory, your right, they are not just statistics and It is astonishing how many in that bottom 80% have been duped into supporting the very policies and practices that are impoverishing even themselves. Thank you Ed for trying to wake them up.
 

Kathy Javens (104)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 4:28 am
Thank you so much Dandelion for sharing this with me. Ed is my new hero!!!!!
 

Bill C. (98)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 4:36 am
Thanks for posting, Dandelion. We have the same problem over here with long term unemployment, but people are not totally cut off after 99 weeks. Great response to the Empress, Miss Kitty!
 

. (0)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 7:43 am
Well, Empress. Your name fits you well. You can go kick that homeless family now. I bet you were fun at the holidays kicking over the Salvation Army Kettles.

So, your saying that the millions (and I stress millions) out of work choose to be? Ppl would rather live out on the streets with their children, with no food, shelter? Compassionate you are not and ignorant to the job market situation you are.

Good for you if you do not have to work or have a job, but none of the unemployed are lazy and we have worked all of their lives. I lost my job due to our company going bankrupt and being investigated by the State of New Jersey for kickbacks. We were a collection agency (#1 at the time) until the upper ranks decided to take the money and run leaving thousands of their employees without jobs as the company folded. Get off your high horse no one wants your money, just jobs.

As I read statements like your on different news sites on how you just want the unemployed, underemployed/homeless, to just leave the planet alltogether, I hope you have to endure what we have to. Ok, I have to check my blood pressure now. Yeesh!
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 7:43 am
We must remember the 99ers are only so because of the extra extentions to unemployment that the Government has given due to the extra horrible economy. Normally they would not have that long to collect benefits. But our economy is still so bad that millions are still not able to find work even after these added extentions.
 

Robert S. (115)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 6:05 pm
Ian M. Just wanted to respond...Brenda Cobb Living Foods Institute

http://www.livingfoodsinstitute.com/about_meetBrenda.php

She has a great place in Atlanta, GA. cured herself of cancer through cleansing and a living foods diet. She is an expert in this field, has helped many many people with various life threatening illnesses over the years.
Also: look into the Hippocrates Institute, down in Florida, also specializing in programs for people whom the medical system has given up on. Their work is based on the lifelong work of Ann Wigmore.
All complementary and alternative options, some of the best out there for trying to get the body back on track. In holistic medicine, of course it is understood that the body will always try to heal or "right" itself, and we can only provide it with every opportunity to do so.

Also: around the USA there is the Integrative Healthcare Symposium. It's an event that features MDs, NDs, holistic health practitioners, complementary and alternative health CARE, latest research, results, etc. You or your friend can look this up online to find out where the events are happening. One is coming up early March in NYC (Manhattan).
This info is compliments of my better half... and I think that saying in this case is literally true.

I hope it helpful.


 

Truthseeker L. (12)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 11:39 am
Thanks for this story, I hope our people can receive more than 2 days per week.
 

Ian MacLeod (79)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 3:25 pm
Robert S. - thanks, I'll look into those! Cancer has exploded in the American population in the past couple of decades. It's my own belief that it's due to frequent and massive exposures to industrial toxins in almost everything in our lives: air, water, food, clothes, medicines, you name it. At one time there was some effort to control what was put into all of these things, but as the corporations became more and more wealthy, they intruded more and more into politics until now they are in charge of the regulatory agencies and other institutions that were originally designed to protect consumers. Add to that the "elite" fascination with mass murder, the obscene pseudoscience of "eugenics," their often repeated intent to "cull the useless eaters" and :extra people" of the earth and their fanatic desire to profit from ALL aspects of business at the same time, though, and you now have the monster that is endangering every living thing on the planet.The entire ecosphere is in danger - including the genetics of irreplaceable species of plants and animals, which are being polluted with easily transferred genes in toxic "food plants" and now animals which, once released into the ecosphere, can never be recalled. They're even doing that last intentionally! If a farmer's crop is "accidentally" contaminated with a patented gene carried on the wind or by insects, the corporate-owned judiciary in America allows Monsanto and other gene-splicing corporations to sue such farmers for theft of patented intellectual property! "Ordinary people," once the single most important part of the country, because they ARE the country - now have no chance against super-rich "elites", banks and other corporations in the courts because they control the prosecutors and judges, not to mention the law-makers who illegally SELL their power to create the laws of this country even though the Constitution states that this power cannot be delegated.

But then it also says that only Congress can create money, and that it must have an intrinsic value, like gold, silver, platinum, etc. More and more it's looking to me as though those "crazy" websites that insist the U.S. government has been replaced by a secret corporation with the registered trademark of "United States" - sort like Fedex isn't a federal agency - designed to appear to be the government but controlled strictly by businesses under the Uniform Commercial Code, in a specially incorporated area: Washington D.C.. These people say that the old, original Republic and the Constitution have been "dormant" since this happened, quietly, and that's why a criminal organization like the IRS, which has NO mandate in law to collect an illegal unapportioned income tax but does it anyway through sheer viciousness, control of the courts and simply outgunning people who insist on seeing the law that requires us to pay these taxes, which of course doesn't exist.

It sounds like a Twilight Zone episode, doesn't it? But what's the explanation then? More and more openly, "our own" government is totally ignoring the Constitution and passing blatantly illegal legislation, condoning or enacting illegal actions against the populace or secondarily damaging to the populace and the Commons. ONLY with corporations in control of legislation, police and the courts would monopolies be enabled again under a destructive economic "philosophy" a high school kid could debunk, and ALL protection for internal commerce, jobs and manufacturing be removed so that both the jobs themselves AND the profits from businesses could be shipped out the country after taking or buying the resources necessary for those businesses for nothing or next to nothing, leaving EVERYTHING going OUT of the country and nothing coming coming back! That's a formula for total destruction of an economy and nothing less!

I'll continue to look into this, but I see no better explanation n the offing.

Ian
 

Ian MacLeod (79)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 3:45 pm
Pardon the typing; keys stick.

Ian
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 4:34 pm
I couldn't agree with you more Ian, I've felt for many years these chemicals are killing us, cancer and the real reason why autism is on a rise, along with ADHD and other nuerobiological disorders. I have felt too that there is a shadow government, is why the stupidity against common sense no longer prevails. What is good for the people doesn't mean it is good for the profit but the shadow government doesn't care about what is good for the real live human being, it ticks on profit.

People talk about some robot(s) that may take over the human race, it is already here in my opionion, it is called the Corporate take over. As Oren Lyons, American Indian, said to one CEO, when does he, the CEO end and when does he become Grandfather to his childrens children? There is a difference, a big one. The CEO didn't know what to say, he had been spending all his time making money, looking at statitics that he did forget how this affects even his own Grandchildren.
 

Robert S. (115)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 4:43 pm
Your typings fine. I read you, though the eugenics stuff...well, I just don't know, but don't forget EMF all over the place and we have quite a cocktail we are swimming in. It sure as hell ain't progress when its killing us. Your summation of our circumstance is quite astute. Now time for a beer. Yup. My only answer for now that makes sense. Oblivion...and hey I'm prob only having one...or two.
 

Cindy Black (61)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 9:25 pm
Wow, Dandelion, thanks so much for this; I didn't know about Ed before but I am VERY impressed now that I've listened. Anyway, such an interesting conversation thread! Poor "Empress" didn't know what she was getting into, did she. Maybe she'd like to compare the "help wanted" sections of the Seattle Times, say, 5 years ago vs now? Five years ago: fat section, about 20 pages long. Just the "mental health and social services" section took up nearly one full page of columns. Now: the whole section, with large pictures, is 2-3 pages total. Mental health and social services? Maybe 8 entries total. Super, huh?
 

Ian MacLeod (79)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 10:13 pm
Robert S. - you're right. And of course the cell phone companies cheat as well. They'll get a license for a certain radiation density at at a given distance (call it "gain"), wait until the inspectors split, then crank it up as high as it will go for a bigger footprint. Of course, if it's too near residences, they all start getting very sick very fast. RF IS still radiation, and it's all over.

There's a place out in the deserts that's a sort of short cut to the Air Force base where the shuttles land. It's a long, poorly kept but paved road, and it has a LOT of towers along it - the huge metal one that carry loads of power and a lot of signal lines as well. Now, you know how you run across a dead critter in or near the road, especially on long hauls through empty country? Well, there are NO animals anywhere on or near that road. In decades of driving that way, I've never seen one. Animals, at least, know better.

Children's brains are still growing and developing, and we give them cell phones that they proceed to LIVE on, 24-7 if they can get away with it. We already know that a single exposure causes changes in rat brain cells, and that people who use cell phones a lot have a high percentage of brain tumors, as people with laptops they use on wireless a lot and who keep their phones in their front pants pockets have had a high incidence if testicular cancer, etc. In about another ten years, some doctors say, this gigantic experiment on the American people is going to conclude with an epidemic of tumors and cancers caused by radiation. They're backing off on wireless technology in Europe. Here, since the corporations are in charge, they're building it all up and up and up some more.

Pitiful ignorance.

Ian
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 10:29 pm
Guess I'm glad I'm behind the 8 ball on that one. I didn't even own a cell phone until I moved last May to Florida for safety on long drive. Since then I might of used it 20 times, it's a pay as you go not the plan that sucks one in for two years or whatever they do. I don't have a lap top either, so maybe I'll fair a bit better, but seems if it isn't one thing it's another, and by the time you learn of one thing people have already worn, used, or ate it for x amount of years. You are correct we are one big experiment.
 

Robert S. (115)
Friday February 18, 2011, 4:15 pm
Just want to point out that Ed now has billing at the top of the MSNBC new page (a hyper link), something that for long, he did not have. He is also the man in the trenches in Wisconsin on the front line. Go Ed.!
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Friday February 18, 2011, 4:43 pm
I agree Robert. He, to me is standing on the right side of the issue. We need as many Ed's we can get. Thanks for stopping back. I agree, Go Ed!
 

Suheyla C. (229)
Monday February 21, 2011, 3:53 pm
Thanks Dandelon. For story
 
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