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The Secret of OZ

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How can we get out of this mess? Foreclosures are everywhere, unemployment is skyrocketing - and this is only the beginning. The economy is in a deflationary spiral. Nothing can stop it -- except monetary reform. LEARN HOW WATCH THE FILM.

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Sheryl G (363)
Tuesday May 17, 2011, 7:44 pm
I know you can't leave a comment right away, but view the film and then come back. We need to STAND UP TO THIS TOGETHER!

WE CAN DO THIS! This has been done before!

PLEASE take the time to view this, certainly worth it.

Toni C (508)
Tuesday May 17, 2011, 8:19 pm
Thanks for the article, Dandelion.. it was very interesting but I don't know what I, as a person, would be able to do to change anything. It's very frustrating to have to be in the position of living on a very small government benefit that all goes toward my survival in a country that continually eats away at every freedom we have. I have no debt, I have no credit card, I have no car, and live without most things others take for granted. Others, including the government, needs to learn to live within their means... I have to.

Henriette Matthijssen (154)
Tuesday May 17, 2011, 9:31 pm
I will view asap. The truth will set all of us FREE! We need to stand together in number for our freedom against those who are so few! We have the number & we have nothing to fear except fear itself! We have nothing now so we have nothing to loose & so very much to gain, Freedom/equal rights for every man, woman & child. Thanks Dandelion.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday May 17, 2011, 11:08 pm
Kucinich-If you don't vote your heart, your heart never wins
We put our own candidates on the ballot for President, Congress and Senate OR
We dissolve this government under the Constitution and form a new government, BY THE PEOPLE.
Otherwise a revolution is called for.
This country is gone.
The Supreme Court has just ruled the police can break down your door at will, no warrant necessary.
The New Fascst World Order has taken over.
These terrorists have already taken over Washington D.C. and Wall Street.
We must take our country back.
The "Too big for their britches" corporations are now running the government.
We must go back, it's a 'do over'.
We must let the big banks fail, it is not too late.
Print new currency and let new businesses take over the commerce.
The Fed is the problem in a nutshell.
Without the Fed, the big corporations are nothing.
Buy something now because your cash ain't nothing but trash.
Begin bartering for cars, food, clothing and housing.
Grow a victory garden so your family does not go hungry.
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Eileen Novak (444)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 7:07 am
Thank you, Dandelion! I would have never come across this if not for you. Thank for the "Fuel" link also. You're the best.

Sheryl G (363)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 7:31 am
There is always something you can do Toni, believe me, you are not the only one on here that is living hand to mouth. I know it feels like it but you are not. The first thing to do is WATCH THE FILM. You obviously have the internet, you are commenting on here, so watch the film. The film will educate you, and you'll be amazed from that what ideas you will come up with to help yourself and others. This isn't an overnight fix, it is each of us stepping in unison in the correct direction.

Other people in the past had to do what we need to do, they didn't have a pot to piss in many of them either, so they had to take back the control. Yes, some of us have had personal issues why we are where we are, but a Government that was working for the People would not allow, those who have fallen on misfortune with ill health to end up in the situations they do. We would have a Government of Compassion not one that is dog eat dog. Beside without debt there is SURPLUS........with Surplus we can help our own citizens and also be generous to others beyond our borders.

John I know understands what this movie is all about, I can tell how he writes both here and other places. It CAN BE DONE. Even the most humble of us, the poorest of us, can be part of this process. In fact those of us who are the most poor MUST be part of the process as you can't expect the ELITES to suddenly feel badly for you or the rest of us who are barely or not making it.

We all can do something, first educate yourself, then write, email, make phone calls, sign petitions, organize, seal envelopes, make posters, pray, meditate on an awakening of the masses, pour coffee for those who are manning the telephones, drive people to rallies, forward what I send you for information along. Google to find if there are groups in your town already in action, start a group put a notice on the library wall.....make it to those of like minded interest, ask at the various Veteran organizations if they have something going, believe me those who have fought for this Country are NOT happy with what is taking place.

If we allow ourselves to feel weak and helpless then they have won. It isn't easy, no one said it's easy, but it isn't easy living daily in poverty, going without medical care, watching a child going hungry, watching the men, women and children coming out of the woods from sleeping there all night. We must find the strength and the courage inside of ourselves, dig deep, to stand up and feel empowered. As a singular person we can do a lot more than we think we can and then when we join in numbers we become mighty.

I have said it before. Many of the fires that everyone is trying to put out has been caused by the actions of a few. It is called GOING TO THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE.

The head of the snake is the FEDERAL RESERVE......which is NOT the Government but PRIVATE BANKERS.

As John said, let the banks fail. As the woman in Iceland stated, let the banks fail. Good riddance to them. Even our President Andrew Jackson knew this........he let the banks fail. He was delighted when this did happen, for it allowed the Country to be FREE of them. It was at that point that things started to IMPROVE.

WATCH THE MOVIE......You can not become empowered until you watch. Is why you say, what can I do? Start by watching the movie.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 10:07 am

Thanks, Sheryl, will make a point of viewing.

Kit B (276)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 11:05 am

When I began watching the movie, I was at first wondering why the producer assumed I didn't know this history. Of course people don't know history or we wouldn't where we are. Nearly, every book worth the read in the past three years that addresses our economy has begun with a review of the history of money. If you don't really know history then you don't know what you are talking about, the past comes back just wearing a new hat. I mentioned a few days ago that a model first pondered for the US was Sparta, in large part because of the lack of a money based society.

We do have an up hill climb however, we can accomplish this. This affects all of us whether one sees himself as republican, democrat, libertarian, socialist, wealthy or poor, this is a common ground. The wealthy will begin to see the value of their accumulation of wealth decline as the rest of us respond to this back-breaking pressure by spending less and less. This can be a national issue but it a global issue.

Do set aside some time and watch this film. It is an excellent historical review that hammers home the point of why we must let the banks fail and begin with a clean slate. We have been under the thumb of this economic model for so long that to change or alter things will make some fearful, that is propaganda talking, use your mind. Watch this film, do some of your own research.

Thank you Dandelion - probably the best solution to begin us back on a path to health and prosperity offered to date.

Sheryl G (363)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 11:08 am
You cannot currently send a star to Kit because you have done so within the last week.

Thank you Kit for the endorsement of this film. I know a lot of people on Care2 value your input, knowledge, and fortitude on here.

Henriette Matthijssen (154)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 11:28 am
JOHN CAUSE link's are a MUST VIEW everyone! A eye opener indeed!

Sheryl G (363)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 11:50 am
I second that Henriette, John does his homework. He is one of the warriors and we all need to be.

Nancy M (197)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 12:05 pm
Thanks Kit for forwarding. I haven't seen it yet but I am sure that I will be learning something about the "man behind the curtain".

Lookf orward to viewing it.

Toni C (508)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 12:15 pm
Dandelion, I am doing everything I can... I belong to all kinds of organizations, not just Care2... I write letters, I sign petitions , I cannot make phone calls because I am unable to speak on the phone, but I spend 12 hours per day working on things, trying to make things better for everyone... not just the chosen few... I belong to, Progressives United with Russ Feingold, MoveOn, Stand with Wisconsin, AFL-CIO, Sierra Club and others. I'm 68 years-old, not in the best of health, am damned tired of the way things are going and am trying my hardest to help turn things around the only way I can.

Sheryl G (363)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 12:31 pm
Toni, it appears you feel a bit unease at what I said to you, that was not my intention. Part of your comment was

" I don't know what I, as a person, would be able to do to change anything."

Therefore I gave you some suggestions of what you can do. You rattle off a list of things you are doing and that is wonderful. It is more than a lot of people are doing. You, as one person ARE doing something, which is what a lot of people need to be doing. So I apologize if you took it the wrong way as I was just offering various suggestions and watching the film does help and offers direction. Also others will read the comment and get ideas of what to do if they are not certain themselves. John offered some suggestions as well. Is the problem when one is typing and they can not put the tone of what they say into the thread. I put your name in to be more personal, not singled out, sort of like an arm around your shoulder, walking along, well Toni, this is what you can do. Then you could say, but I am doing......blah blah blah. I would say, wonderful, you are in fact involved and each thing you do helps.

Ava A (11)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 12:33 pm
Wow! So interesting! I suppose The Wonderful Wizard of Oz is much more than a children's story.

Carol H (229)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 1:31 pm
thanks dandelion, noted

. (0)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 1:39 pm
This is very frustrating for me. Ron Paul has been pointing this out for 30 years.

Sheryl G (363)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 1:42 pm
Indeed he has Rebecca, and I think because of his other beliefs that are so against the grain of so many that too many tuned him out on this important issue that he is right on target with.

Pamylle G (461)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 2:04 pm
Amazing - there was so much here I did not know. Presented with historical perspective, and well-argued. I will be recommending this to friends.

Thanks, Dandelion !

Terry King (113)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 2:28 pm
Wow... That move could have done with some editing... Much I already knew but with some new information and fascinating details. I felt life I was back in civics class!

Sonny Honrado (5)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 3:56 pm
I will view this.

Past Member (0)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 4:03 pm
Thank you very much for this, Dandelion...
This old dog will have to take it in small bites to asimilate it properly...

Jonjon Hoy (146)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 4:55 pm
Let Congress feel what were feeling and then just maybe they want be so greedy to take away from us. Wishful thinking right!

Sheryl G (363)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 6:13 pm
Gerald, I appreciate that you will view, a bite at a time. Eventually the whole thing will be completed. I've gone over a few times myself, there is a lot in the movie, so I've viewed it a few times.

Jon, actually if Congress was doing what they were suppose to do, none of us would be in the mess we are in. They DO get paid to much for not knowing what their job is and what they are doing. The first thing is they need, along with the President is to take away the powers of the Federal Reserve and begin to print our OWN money INTEREST FREE! We then pay back all our debts with this money and the value of the money will be it's value and not manipulated by the Federal Reserve which is PRIVATE BANKERS.

Right now the dollar in 1913 is only equal to 4 cents today as the Federal Reserve has taken it's value away with inflation. So if you do recall how much further your money seemed to have gone when you were working in some na na job right out of High School and today it seems you can't make a dollar stretch far enough, that is the reason why. You can thank the Federal Reserve for that.

I recall when I first got out of High School in 1971....ok I'm dating myself here, it now takes $5.43 to buy what a single dollar bought back then. Gas was also cheaper too, remember? A price of a movie ticket, box of the popcorn, wow a full night out and what fun. Now one has to take out a small loan to go to the movies. This is what the Federal Reserve has done. So no, you work harder, longer, and get less for your efforts. There is no way to keep up with this, the deck is stacked against us. We must go to a new monetary system and that requires removing the Federal Reserve.

Norm C (74)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 11:16 pm
I'm not a big fan of this documentary for three reasons.

First, Baum, during his newspaper days advocated for the annihilation of all Native Americans. Tying the basic premise of the movie to The Wizard of Oz involves a lot of time spent making connections that no one really cares much about and is in fact irrelevant to the basic argument. I suspect that the reason the writer of this script spends so much time on Oz and Wm Jennings Bryant is that he has so little material. The whole thing is a rather confused journey up and down multiple rivers, only to fail to connect them.

My second complaint is that it simplifies the economic issues of the second half of the 19th century. To be sure the gold standard was a problem. But the writer glosses over a lot of issues related to the "Trusts" that should have been far more prominently discussed. And he totally ignored the role of the railroads in the economic calamity that was the late 19th century. The country went through three panics (depressions), one every 10 years in 1873, 1883 and in 1893 to be followed by another at the end of the first decade of the 20th century.

At that time the US economy was largely fueled by the railroads. Most of the iron and steel ended up in tracks and locomotives. Most of the growing domestic industries were suppliers to the transportation industry. Most of the transportation industry was the railroads. The railroad building boom of the late 19th century experienced periodic bankruptcies. Those bankruptcies were as much or more the cause of those panics as was the inflexibility of the gold standard. It was the panic of 1873 and the attempt to expand the monetary system by exploring for gold that led Custer, with a group of prospectors, into the Black Hills and ultimately to the wipeout of his troop three years later at the Little Big Horn. The railroad failures coupled with the inflexibility of the gold standard and the general philosophy of trickle down economics that caused the boom-bust cycle of the post Civil War era.

Third, fixing the Federal Reserve does not solve the basic problem. Yes, the Fed should be fixed; it should be a publicly owned institution concerned with far more with protecting Main Street than with protecting Wall Street banks. But the Fed is not the source of all evil in our economy and political system. Gross inequality of wealth and income is the core problem. It operates completely independently of the Fed. The Fed feeds it but really does not cause it.

It was, after all, the Fed in the hands of Mariner Eccles in the mid 30s that powered the 2nd New Deal that stopped the Great Depression and took us most of the way out of the depression. The Fed is our Central Bank. It should be publicly owned and run for the people instead of the banksters. The banksters are the thieves; the Fed is merely the lookout.

The thing that lets the banksters operate at the level they do is the vast quantity of excess money in so few hands. With BIG money consolidated into fewer hands than can productively make use ot it, we end up with a vast pool in the accounts in banks. With so little of it circulating on Main Street, the banks have limited places to put it to good work. So they start making stuff up, like artificial derivatives, credit default swaps, collateralized debt obligations, synthetic CDOs, etc.

The core problem is the classic problem of too much of X in one place and too little of X in other places. That is the problem with food shortages, with fuel shortages, with money shortages, etc. It's not really a shortage at all. It's a misallocation of resources and goods brought on by BIG money with BIG influence with the ability to create BIG corruption.

Take a look around the world. We have countries that used to be self-sufficient in food production that now have huge problems with hunger and starvation. Yet the world produces (for the time being) more than enough food for everyone. The problem is that in most of those countries the people who used to grow most of their own food have been forced off the land into squatters camps and cannot afford to buy the food they need.

Here in the US and fast approaching the rest of the First World, we have a similar problem. We have forced millions out of factories and offices as well as off of farms only to send them to McDonalds to flip burgers. As a result they no longer have the ability to fuel a vibrant economy. Why did we force so many out of the middle class? We allowed BIG money to roam free across the globe. Big money saw an opportunity to bet far BIGGER by making the same stuff far cheaper half way across the world and south of the border and them shipping most of the stuff back here. You know what has been happening in this regard.

In a nutshell, this video is dealing poorly with symptoms instead of causes.

Wioletta S (69)
Wednesday May 18, 2011, 11:21 pm

Edward M (8)
Thursday May 19, 2011, 1:38 am
The people who put the least effort in, but happen to be very rich, get the most financial reward; in most cases, their rewards are always obtained off the backs of those who produce this wealth.
'Trading Places', although portrayed as a comedy feature film, says it all but, with this case in point, without the happy ending.,,

Agnes H (144)
Thursday May 19, 2011, 1:46 am
I watched this, but want to watch it again, as I don't know much about the American Monatary system and how it came about to be what you use now.
I can understand the frustration between Englands system and the difference with America, and America wanting it's own money! We had the same here and although we had the Sterling until we went Decimal it was a good thing they changed to the AU Dollar. Here, too, they had their own bank. The Commonwealth Bank, but it was only for the Eastern States as WA and SA were still under the British Collonies, thus got their money from England! Complicated!

Just as complicated as I find the different Banks in America in this story. It does make sense though that the first bank in Pensylvania would have been choosen for the first money.
There's one thing though about the countries wanting to use gold for money. Until about 10 years ago, or when our Dollars were still Paper money, there was a small gold line to be seen. When they did away with that, forgery was made so much easier. The gold line was a sign of authenticity. Here we also have Cooperation Banks, which were banks started by the Farmers, if I'm right. My grandfather was one of the people who started that bank. It was a bank for the People.

I can't quite understand the systems, but do understand about The Wizard of Oz being a take off of the wealth and kind of money the PEOPLE wanted! Is the Original book still available?
Maybe when I've seen the film a few more times I can give you a better comment!

Ellen m (215)
Thursday May 19, 2011, 1:47 am
Noted. I'm in the same boat as my friend toni nofwds, exept i've got a car...i just can't afford the gas to drive it. So I just keep clicking...

. (0)
Thursday May 19, 2011, 5:31 am
thank you Dandelion for this posting, now......if only!

Kit B (276)
Thursday May 19, 2011, 6:09 am

Norm, I think it's a good movie based on a predetermined opinion, true but it offers in two hours of some important background to information others do not have. Most do not understand the Fed or the back ground history that brought us to this point. Sure, it leaves out some very relevant points and totally ignores TR and his own "reformation" of monopolies, a strategic move. The United States has many deeply rooted variables that must be addressed to "fix" our problems. There are no simple answers to profoundly complex situations.

We have been depending on "band-aid" fixes for too long and as in all things that are as variegated as the US/global economy and internal polices, each item must be addressed one at a time with established reformation that addresses the intricacy and establishes new regulation that will in fact offer a fresh start for this and therefore, other countries connected to our economy.

Currently we are running a train without passengers. Yes, the money is once again held by only a few and if history has taught nothing else it must be with that stagnation, comes a tragic collapse. Currently, I see no one considering a path or "road map" in a direction that will bring money into the greater community, rather I see political gamesmanship aimed only at re-election. The so called "Ryan Budget" is farce and I would say that no matter who offered it as an answer to correct this. Cuts in spending is rhetoric to salve the public urgency for answers. Austerity programs can not stand alone, nor do they ever solve long term reform.

I believe this in fighting and game playing is a stall to do little while pretending to do something significant. Therefore, it's a stall to avoid doing any thing that would "rock the boat". If the Congress and President are not responsible to the people but rather only the 1-5% of the wealth then only the co-operative voice of the people or a rebellion can force the needed changes.

Sheryl G (363)
Thursday May 19, 2011, 7:32 am
Norm, being on my friends list, I did state, althought this movie isn't perfect. I did not claim this was the be all and end all but as Kit did state, it gives some historical facts that many are not aware of.

I know you tied Baum in with the American Indian genocide, and I don't dispute that, Andrew Jackson was a horrific President when it came to the First Nations people, yet......he did do right by the Dominent Culture and his actions with the banks. If I was to withhold information from others that they may find useful to the history and understanding today, I don't think I could place much on these threads when it came to the historical and it not being tied in a negative way to the American Indian. Even in current policy much is still the same way with the American Indian being used and abused behind the scenes or in the open view. This pains me since I do have American Indian heritage and am closely tied to my ancesteral ways, but I can't not hold back from giving information that may prove helpful to this Country today based upon what one man in the past felt on another situation.

I am a bit confused when you state: "The banksters are the thieves; the Fed is merely the lookout."

Because the Fed, the Federal Reserve is made up of private BANKERS. They are far more than the lookout, they are the movers and shakers. The Fed is a major problem, one of the BIG problems, it needs to go, and yes, of coarse there are other players as you mention Norm, both in the past and present that also need to be fixed or harnessed in from their morallity that has gone bankrupted among their ranks. To me the Federal Reserve is controling our Government NOT the other way around and that needs to stop.

No one Institution should have so much power to do that, and we do not need to pay the Federal Reserve INTEREST on the money they print from thin air when We The People, via our Government have that right to control the money, print the money all INTEREST FREE. So while I agree with much of what you said Norm, this is one place I do disagree, the Federal Reserve IS the Head of the Snake. Of coarse we have the rest of the snake to contend, but that will wither and die if the Head is chopped off and then we can contend easier with the other rats that scurry about.


Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday May 19, 2011, 8:54 am

Finally watched. (Sorry for taking so long, but what I did was listen to the video playing in another tab while doing other things and periodically clicking on it for a visual.)

Sheryl, I think it's great! I can also understand where it could be confusing to some people just trying to grasp the whole concept who haven't read and/or viewed other materials on the subject. But, as a "primer," I was impressed.

Most of all, I hope that it will spark a curiosity and thirst for more knowledge, and an impetus to take action. If nothing else, it helped to define certain terminology commonly used in debates today (i.e. fiat money) and can always be viewed again (as some commenters mentioned).

John Cause listed some excellent sources in his Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 11:08 pm post!

Thanks for this informative contribution, Sheryl!


DORIS L (61)
Thursday May 19, 2011, 10:08 am
Couldn't email this fast enough to my daughter who ironically lives in Kansas! This was very informative...Thanks Dandelion!

Sheryl G (363)
Thursday May 19, 2011, 11:15 am
Thanks Carole, as I had said, it isn't perfect but it does cover a lot of territory, better than some films I've seen, and places some historical perspective on issues to allow the viewer to more readily perhaps understand what is taking place today.

Yes, if it can be a starter point for some, be additional information to others, or even if someone with a lot of knowledge gains one more thing from the film then it has served it's purpose. I liked the fact of knowing that this movie I grew up with had more to it than I had understood beyond the fact I knew there was a messge in there but didn't connect this message to it.

Thanks for the input Carole, yes, most certainly we hope an impetus to take action.

And you are welcome Doris, glad you shared the film.

Melody Aragorn (135)
Thursday May 19, 2011, 4:53 pm
Dandelion You are an angel, have passed this on to my friends..
Awareness is the key in todays world provided people choose to identify the root of all concerns.

Jelica R (144)
Thursday May 19, 2011, 4:57 pm

Thanks Dandelion, I'm watching it right now.

To the links John provided, I'd like to add Green Day - American Idiot, By Simpsons, 3 min.

I must admit, I have a soft spot for punk music. It, kinda, smells like, well, rebelion...

Sheryl G (363)
Thursday May 19, 2011, 6:06 pm
It is advisable to do all in your power to sustain such prominent daily and weekly newspapers, especially the Agricultural and Religious Press, as will oppose the greenback issue of paper money.

To repeal the Act creating bank notes, or to restore to circulation the government issue of money will be to PROVIDE THE PEOPLE WITH MONEY and will therefore SERIOUSLY AFFECT OUR individual PROFITS as BANKERS AND LENDERS.

See your Congressman at once and engage him to support OUR interests that WE may CONTROL legislation.
1877 Letter by James Buel Secretary American Bankers Association

"Whoever controls the volume of money in our Country is absolute master of all industry and commerce....and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate."
James A. Garfield ASSASSINATED President of the United States

After Garfields assassination, the depression deepened, leaving the unemployed to face poverty and starvation. Produce was left to rot in the fields. The Country was facing poverty admidst plenty, because there was insufficient money in circulation to keep the wheels of trade turning.

The Country soely needed the sort of liquidity urged by Lincoln.....and the Greenbackers; but the bankers insisted that allowing the government to print its own money would be dangerously inflationary.

That was their argument but critics called it "humbuggery."
Ellen H. Brown The Web of Debt

We are played like a fiddle by these Bankers and the Federal Reserve which is Private Bankers. They make or destroy as they see fit. Plunge people into starvation, when they see fit, and this has happened before and is the root behind all that is going on now.

Make no mistakes, we must get rid of the Federal Reserve in order to begin our way back to a better way of living. You must insist to your Congress man or woman that the Federal Reserve no longer in charge of our money, that our own Government print it's own money.

If the ones sitting in position now do not want to do that, then we must, as the citizens had to do in the past, elect those into office who will! That is the only way to get back on our feet, otherwise it is all a bunch of smoke and mirrors, games, and unfortunately this all has dire consequences for us all.

You can lower the debt to zero dollars, but with an economy based on debt, the money supply dwindles as the debt is lowered. We all need to understand that concept. If the debt is at $100, that means only $100 is in circulation for this entire Country to live on. This is not a winnable solution, the idiots in Washington are either just that, or they are playing games to make the rest of us "think" they are doing something. Either way it isn't solving the ills and the economic situation we are all living under.


Ralph R Sutton (56)
Thursday May 19, 2011, 8:12 pm
This is the most powerful documentary I have seen on the subject and one that not only explains the cause of our problems, but the solutions to getting us out of the mess we are in.

Thank you Dandelion and thank you Kit for the heads up on this submission.

ewoud k (68)
Friday May 20, 2011, 1:34 am

And human greed does the rest.

SuS NoMail Plez P (244)
Friday May 20, 2011, 2:25 am
Thank you dearly Kit and Dandelion. As you both stated this is unbeknownst to many. I feel it is an AMAZING video. Unfortunately I was unable to finish it due to my internet provider probs but I guarantee you I will watch it. I humbly admit I had/have NO IDEA of much of the history and am thrilled everytime I understand just a little bit more than I did the day before. I am grateful as hell for the education I receive from all of you. Foolishly I threw my education away! Good night all. Looking forward to John cause's links as well.

Sheryl G (363)
Friday May 20, 2011, 6:39 am
Thanks Ewoud for bringing that musical piece of Liza Minnelli, Joel Grey back in front of my eyes again, both did a fabulous job on it.

Lika P (130)
Wednesday May 25, 2011, 3:03 am
I may pass this on to my legislators...

Sheryl G (363)
Wednesday May 25, 2011, 3:42 pm
Excellent Lika, I always love it when someone takes the next step. You go Girl!

Past Member (0)
Wednesday June 8, 2011, 2:54 pm
Thanks Dandelion...and John (signed the petition mentioned in your comment)

Tom H (37)
Tuesday June 14, 2011, 12:52 pm
Very powerful documentary, D. let s/he who has ears to hear....

See also "Zeitgeist: Moving Forward".

And don't let the Liberpublicans distract you from Truth and Facts. They abhor both.

Gwendolyn Krupa (49)
Sunday June 19, 2011, 10:46 pm
Thank-you, Dandelion finely had time to view. I learned a lot. Sent a few stars as well. You are such a blessing to the Care2 community, dear sister!

Sheryl G (363)
Monday June 20, 2011, 5:43 am
You are welcome. I'm just glad you were able to view it. I know a few things I'm putting on are a few hours in length but I just felt they told the picture in easy to understand ways. Thanks also Thomas, I have watch the film you must open their eyes, the Truth does set us free.

jane richmond (10)
Sunday July 24, 2011, 7:48 am

Ulli w (45)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 6:34 pm
@Norm C.
a vast pool in the accounts in banks. With so little of it circulating on Main Street, the banks have limited places to put it to good work. So they start making stuff up, like artificial derivatives, credit default swaps, collateralized debt obligations, synthetic CDOs, etc.
I suggest you re-read your comment the cited part above is in fact an oxymoron. The stuff they made up is just plainly not made of money, but of rotten debts elaborately bundled and packaged into a new "financial product" with a phony name to scam the unwitting buyer.
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