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Columbus Day? True Legacy: Cruelty and Slavery


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Christopher Columbus, Holiday, crimes against humanity, genocide, murder, cruelty, USA, Invader, reign of terror, historical, abolish Columbus Day )

Dandelion
- 1074 days ago - huffingtonpost.com
Once again, it's time to celebrate Columbus Day. Yet, the stunning truth is: If Christopher Columbus were alive today, he would be put on trial for crimes against humanity.



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Dandelion G. (387)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 2:56 pm
PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE COMPLETELY THROUGH.

This is not the most pleasant read, but it is an IMPORANT read. If you want to CHANGE and improve things one must understand one's history accurately and then begin to make the changes.

Christopher Columbus' reign of terror is one of the darkest chapters in USA history. The REAL question is: Why do we celebrate a holiday in honor of this man?

Would you celebrate Columbus Day if the story of Christopher Columbus were told from the point-of-view of his victims?

So please, contact your Elected Officials in Washington, educate others about this, so we can remove this Murderer off our calendars and make an exchange with a more proper Holiday.

PLEASE ALSO SIGN PETITIONS
ABOLISH COLUMBUS DAY
Abolish Columbus Day As National Holiday
Columbus Day Nothing to Celebrate

Please feel free to add any other petitions you know of on this thread.

 

James W. (262)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 3:18 pm
All 3 signed Thanks Dandelion
 

Antonio M. (128)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 3:40 pm
To call Columbus a a discoverer, is to look only from one side of the planet. What he discovered, the North America, the Native Americans already knew, it was their own land. So, this is only the point of view of European people, called "civilized". The Native Americans were decimated by early invaders, the Spanish. Then the peoples from Europe have come. The most of them were British.

The Indians were forced to go to the worst of the USA lands, for the mountains, where land was more difficult to cultivate and where the access roads was worst. But if they found oil in the mountains, they will be dispossessed of their lands again.
 

H Nick H. (1826)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 3:41 pm
Good and interesting article. I learned some new things today.

The people in our history were not lily clean nor pure. Almost all of them came here to escape something or to explote this land for their own power and greed. History is vey interesting, but as it is written, it's alway slanted to their writers point of view.
 

Walter L Bradley Jr (13)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 3:42 pm
This nation continues to thrive on the genocidal mass murder of innocent people around the globe, occupying their lands and stealing their resources with no accountability. And no one in government has ever been taken to task over the reign of terror unleashed by the U.S. military and NATO in Southeast Asia, the Balkans, the Middle-East and elsewhere.
 

Antonio M. (128)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 3:50 pm
I signed all the three petitions. Thank you for sharing this great article, Dandelion!
 

Phyllis P. (414)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 3:53 pm
All three signed. BTW...I knew nothng about Columbus, other than what I was taught in school, until people on Care2 educated me.
 

Henriette Matthijssen (145)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 4:04 pm
Anyone that kills another being for profit does not deserve a holiday in honor of his name. Please abolish this holiday as it is a dishonor as such! Signed all three petitions & forwarding as well. Thanks Dandelion for your hard work in educating us on the truth rather then the lies they wish us to believe! We should not be surprised that they have to deceive us when such atrocities takes place! Deception is always covered up with lies as if the Truth was exposed they would not of taken us for fools. But fools no more as we unlearn this false truth through enlightenment & consciousness of our Spiritual self.
 

Edwin M. (366)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 4:06 pm
Of course we were never taught this in school just as future students will be told that George Bush was a patriotic humanitarian. Thank you Sheryl
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 4:08 pm
Dear Dandelion, Not being an American citizen I couldn't sign the 1st petittion, but have signed the last two. Unfortunately the 2nd petition 'Abolish Columbus Day As National Holiday' is targeted at George Bush so maybe an update is in order by the originators. Thanks for posting.
 

Surunatik WTF (38)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 4:11 pm
I appreciated how that was put, and it is the truth, Columbus "invaded" rather than discovered America. Which he didn't anyway, a number of others came before him. This mythology regarding his contribution to our history is such a perfect example of the mental illness that permeates our $ruling$ "class". Historical facts a little uncomfortable? Just put some lipstick on them.
 

Antonio M. (128)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 4:18 pm
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Agnes N. (717)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 4:41 pm
Thanks Antonio...noted
 

Marco Galli (71)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 4:43 pm
There is no doubt that the Genoese and my compatriot Christopher Columbus was a criminal: Today would be considered a slaver and a war criminal.
He was a fanatic religious, that terrorized his crew and the Indios from places visited, with killings, tortures and mutilation of ears and nose.
He also was prompted by selfish motives and megalomania.
He even was not a good geographer, if he had followed the calculations of Archimedes, should have known that the circumference of earth was much greater and Asia was much more to the west.
Another story for Amerigo Vespucci, he was a real great explorer, already from his first voyage, he understood to be in a new and wonderful continent.
His motivations were of knowledge, and sharing culture with new people, he discovered the lagoon of Maracaibo and described it as beautiful as Venice, "since then, this country is called Venezuela" Little Venice.
Amerigo established relationships with the Indios Guyairos of Columbia and explored the Brazil forests.
I described some of these things in my sharebook:
Tribute to Amerigo Vespucci explorer and noble Florentine.
Even the very name of America derives from its Latin name "Americi Vespuci."
All Americans should know his book Mundus Novus "The New World" and celebrate the Amerigo Day instead of Columbus Day.
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 4:58 pm
This is why I put this article on here Phyllis to let others know. I yearly put on some information on this subject as new people do come across it and find out the truth.

Whether a person is of native blood or not this should bother every American to know they are celebrating a mass murderer. Why do we want to continue this? Just because it is on the calendar we do have the right to question it and as a population remove it. But it will never be taken off if people only get the side of his being an exploer and he "discovered" America.

Richard sorry about the petition, I hope they are still forwarding names to the President that is now in Office. As my computer is on it's last legs it is hard for me to see what I'm doing. In fact as I type this in the thread all I can see is a blank white spot, I can barely read things, so I'm sorry to have missed it. I check back on what I write by highlighting the words, make sure it all looks right.

You are so correct in what you say Walter, if a people of a Nation do not understand their HISTORY then they are bound to keep repeating it. They can not understand their history if it isn't taught to them correctly. So I do hope that all who read this here will take it a step forward and speak to others on this, let them know the ugly turth of what is on their calendar that they are informed about to "celebrate"....I do not celebrate genocide or those who commit it. How do we look to the rest of the world when we celebrate mass murderers?
 

Jim Phillips (3209)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 5:25 pm
All three petitions signed.

Remove Columbus Day from the Holiday list immediately in the USA.

Ty, Dandelion.
.
 

Dalia H. (1278)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 5:35 pm
Thank You so much my Beloved Dandelion for such a Great Article and Education about it.
Noted with a lot of Thanks.
HAVE A VERY BLESSED SATURDAY EVERYBODY!!!
Much Love and Light,
B.D~♥~
 

Richard Zane Smith (86)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 5:35 pm
Thanks Sheryl,
for sharing the truth about these villans.
americans must be pretty hard up for heroes to stoop this low...
-richard
 

Tania Alvarado (112)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 5:38 pm
And there,my dears,is named Columbus day...Here(i guess i told this to Sheryl),until recently,ten years more or less,the infamous 10-12 was called 'The Race Day'(white,obviously)...that was until sensitive government members,instead of banning it,catched a cooooool vibe,and decided to re name it 'The Culture Meeting Day'(such a meeting!!!!)...Don't know wich is worst...
 

Dalia H. (1278)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 5:39 pm
Dalia, You signed on September 7, 2008.
Your signature has been delivered to:
George Bush, President of the United States, United States of America

2218. Dalia Hettfield

Congratulations. You have successfully signed the petition:

Abolish Columbus Day and its Celebration

You are signer #150
Actions have been taken Sweet Heart.
Thank You so much for sharing! GOD Bless you and yours!!!
Much Love and Light, B.D~♥~
 

Scott Freewheeler (45)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 5:40 pm
Excellent post. I was force fed lies about this monster at school. The evidence that he was not such a 'great explorer' is not only overwhelming but it is also both chilling and truly sickening.
 

Just Carole (338)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 5:43 pm

Bless your heart for posting this truth, dear Sheryl!

 

Naoko I. (262)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 5:44 pm
How can anyone "discover" what already belongs to someone?
 

Naoko I. (262)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 5:53 pm
All three petitions signed.
 

Tania Alvarado (112)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 5:56 pm
Antonio,sorry for the corrective post,but Columbus didn't get to NorthAmerica,He reached the Caribbean,to the current Haiti,if my memory don't fail.Hernando de Soto,Alvar Nuñez Cabeza de Vaca and other further spanish conquerors reached NorthAmerica,but many years later.
 

Marco Galli (71)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 6:18 pm
I have signed, but dear Dandelion, it will be hard do understand this to Italo-Americans, many of these "if would could do", would like a Mussolini Day, many of them believe in a world that no longer exists, and do not realize how it has changed Italy .
After all, rightly, no one would think of abolishing Yom Kippur, or the St. Patrick's Day
Thus, a substitution with Amerigo's Day, could be an ethical solution and acceptable.
Or a Verrazzano's Brother Day , I vote for a Native American Pride Day
 

Kamila A. (141)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 6:30 pm
History as we have been taught and understood is not the truth. Nothing is what we thought it was.
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 6:32 pm
Thank you Marco, there is not one day that Honors the First Nations people....not even one. Yet, I do not even ask for that, just to rid this. If it is to be replaced let it be with an Honorable replacement. I wouldn't even mind a Heritage Day......so that anyone of any Heritage could have the day off and Celebrate. There could be all kinds of Festivals of the various cultures and their heritage and the people could go around and join in with the ones they want. I'm open to all ideas, but this Columbus Day must go. Please call your Elected Officials and tell them it is important to you, if you are a citizen of USA.
 

Lyssa C. (20)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 6:46 pm
Noted thanks.
 

wooddragon xx (88)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 6:49 pm
Cheers Dandelion...

Not only in America do they lie about the history of this man, but over here in the UK too.

When I was school we were never taught the truth about Columbus. We were mostly taught he was a great hero of that time and how he discovered America. It wasn't until I left school, did I realise how deceived I was about the true history of this man. How some love to rewrite history, just to satisfy their dirty rotten agendas!

What he did should not be celebrated! And I agree; ‘holidays ought to honor people who are worthy of our admiration, true heroes who are positive role models for our children.’

Today in the UK, schools teach this history a little bit differently to how I was taught, so change has come a 'little' closer to the truth. However, half truths do not make the truth. I can only believe that all the truth will come one day, if we all teach our children the real truth. Then our children will stand up in the class and question what is being taught to them. Oh, how I wish I was back in school, now!

Thank you guys for your comments...

May there be an end to honouring bastards!
 

wooddragon xx (88)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 6:54 pm
Dandelion, I just signed the petition and I added a comment, however my comment has not shown up, is there a delay in the comments showing up?

Anyway this is the comment:

'Holidays ought to honour people who are worthy of our admiration, true heroes who are positive role models for our children.’

Start telling the truth in schools and stop the lies!! You cannot rewrite history to suit your own rotten agenda! Down with Columbus day!! And give the people a true hero’s day!

Will sign the others Dandelion...
 

Penelope Ryan (175)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 6:58 pm
I have read extensively on the cruel practices of this man. I cried when I read how he would make children do the work of men. If they refused he cut off a limb. Ty Sheryly for your deligence in getting this out. Why they still have this as a holiday is beyond me. It makes no sense.
 

Rebecca T. (1)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 7:22 pm
I have spoken out against the celebration of Columbus since childhood. My parents always thought I was just a crazy kid who didn't like to conform... especially when, gasp!, I decided to stop eating meat, and it's heartening to know that others agree with me on this topic. That we have a day to honor him sickens me to no end. I recently bought a sticker that reads, "Was Columbus an illegal alien or a terrorist?" Pretty mild considering the man, but worth the purchase nonetheless.
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 7:27 pm
Thank you Rebecca and keep speaking up....you are on the correct side of justice.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 7:59 pm
You know, I've always wondered why we celebrate this turkey, here's some facts on him;
..
With Columbus Day coming up next week, it's time to arm yourself with interesting facts about the man credited with discovering America. Here are some unusual facts about the 15th century explorer:

* Columbus' father and his mother's family were wool merchants. In his youth, Columbus helped his father with weaving.

* He taught himself Latin, because that was the language in which geography books were written.

* Columbus first went to sea as a teenager.

* Before his famed journeys to the Americas, Columbus was a pirate.

* He nearly died in 1476 when other pirates burned his ship and he had to swim to the Portugal shore to escape.

* Columbus owned shops selling maps and charts.

*Those names of the ships we've learned to identify as the Niña, Pinta and Santa Maria were actually named Santa Clara, Pinta, and La Gallega. The crew called La Gallega Marigalante ("dirty Mary"). Columbus rechristened her Santa Maria.

* Contrary to popular belief, the Spanish Royal family did not raid their personal piggy banks to fund Columbus' voyage to the Americas. Pawning of the royal jewels? It's a myth, says Arnold Fine in the Jewish Press.

* Columbus estimated the Earth to be about 63 percent of its actual size.

* Unlike most sea vessels which stocked enough provisions for the trip, Columbus' ships carried enough food for a year. Some of the foods on board included raisins, garbanzos, cheese, wine and seabiscuit.

* When Columbus reached Hispaniola, Santa Maria crashed into a reef and was wrecked. In cooperation with Islanders, he salvaged the ship's wood and built a settlement called Villa de la Navidad.


* Santa Maria was one of nine ships sunk under Columbus' management.

* The Spanish government arrested Columbus after his third voyage due to unrest in Hispaniola caused by his mismanagement. He was imprisoned in irons. The charges against him were later dropped.

* On his 4th trip to the New World, Columbus brought his 13-year-old son Ferdinand.

* During a 1502 voyage to Central America, Columbus tricked natives by convincing them he'd taken away the moon as a punishment for refusing to trade with him. He had merely consulted an almanac and observed that a lunar eclipse was imminent. Scared natives agreed to trade with him when the eclipse occurred.

* Columbus suffered from arthritis in his later years.

* While not wealthy, Columbus did leave money to his heirs. He didn't die penniless as schoolchildren have often been told.

 

Jae A. (323)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 8:07 pm
Noted and signed ...topic is way too close to home for many of us to think of it as anything but mass murder of the worst kind to an entire nation of people. What this man did Hitler couldn't hold a candle to as far as their mass murder and genisde attempt was to our native American people at the time. Yet...he is honored which is a dishonor to our current Nation in my opinon. I will stop here for the blood pressure in my mixed blood veins does go a tad high once I start to type....I can hold that down when in conversation but when in only my mind alone that the words flow from to my finger tips...well P.C. and generally accept terms fail me big time. Do away with the day completely and find another 'date' to honor those murdered by this man and his so called 'men'...band of murderers and theives regardless of what nation they can from that's all they were.

Yep..time to stop my thoughts and typing. Thanks Sheryl for helping many to understand this day of death at the hands of the of such a disgusting human being ..along with his 'mates' or whatever they hell one decides to call his 'men'...all of who were just cowards taking part in of one of the most hidious and outragious crimes in our nations history.....in my opinion.
 

Carol H. (229)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 8:35 pm
signed all, thanks Dandelion!
 

Susanne R. (249)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 9:07 pm
The article states: "Experts generally agree that before 1492, the population on the island of Hispaniola probably numbered above 3 million. Within 20 years of Spanish arrival, it was reduced to only 60,000. Within 50 years, not a single original native inhabitant could be found."

Not only should we do away with the holiday that honors this sick and disgusting man, but history books should be corrected to tell his true story. That many believe that he deserves hero status is a grave injustice to all the people who died as a result of his exploitation and sadistic cruelty. It sickened me to read of his exploits. So let's OFFICIALLY correct this gross injustice to Christopher Columbus's victims and allow them rest in peace. The people of this country, and of the world, deserve to be informed of a historical error so that they stop making fools of themselves by honoring someone who makes the worst genocide-promoting dictators this world has ever seen look like saints in comparison.
 

Susanne R. (249)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 9:36 pm
I signed all petitions except the one suggesting that we abolish Columbus Day and rename it. The petition states: "The primary honor and recognition from this holiday would go to American Indians, who deserve a national holiday in their honor and don’t have one. Secondly, it would also allow people, of other cultures, to honor their own “First Americans,” i.e. Christopher Columbus (Italian-Americans), the first Irish-Americans, the first Chinese-Americans, the first English-Americans, the first African-Americans etc."

While I agree that American Indians should have a day of recognition, I don't agree that Christopher Columbus should. And African Americans might take offense to this idea in light of the fact that their "first Americans" didn't come here willingly, but in shackles and on slave ships.

I think the idea has noble intentions, but I also think it needs some serious tweaking.
 

Gary A L. (133)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 9:38 pm
Thanks dandelion I have know of Columbus’s brutality for quite some time and when ever I have a opportunity I tell people the truth there are those who listen and those who don't want to know the truth never the less it's the truth good job keep it up
 

Joy Wong (75)
Saturday October 8, 2011, 11:24 pm
Noted and signed. Thank you, Dandelion for the correct historical background.
 

ellen m. (222)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 12:20 am
Thinking about it, I don't remember ever "celebrating" it, it was aleays just a day off from school as a kid, forgotten as an adult.
But you're right about the history. But there are many other things we were never taught.
I was in high school before I knew about the "relocation camps" for japanese americans during the war, or about our failure to act during the holocaust.
Blame it on school curriculum...and remember that Texas pretty much decided what we were taught and in what books when I was a kid.
That was worse than "dumbing down America".
It was outright covering up its sins!
 

Calle J. (70)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 12:29 am

Thanks Dandelion and Henriette for your forward.
Gladly signed the last two petitions.
(Non US resident)
 

Pat A. (117)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 1:54 am
Thanks Dandelion - I didn't know any of Columbus' personal history - repulsive individual! However, I did know of the prehistory - and the fact that in the NE of the Northern American Continent the (oh my nascent migraine) .. is it the Ojibwe (please forgive me if I am wrong) have some European female ancestors from many thousands of years ago according to their DNA. This suggests that the Europeans of the paleolithic followed the ice sheets across the Atlantic and settled and intermarried there - suggesting that in the past people could journey to other countries peacefully - would that we could rediscover that knack!

However, knowing what I now know about Columbus - Ban Columbus Day Indeed!
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 2:13 am
What you need is some sort of 'Native American Day' in the U.S. I find it hard to believe you don't. In fact you could have it on what used to be Columbus Day.
In Canada we have National Aboriginal Day on June 21, though only since 1996. To be trurhful I didn't even know about it until I googled it.
 

Mary P. (157)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 2:24 am
Thank you Dandelion. This is how all the 'great' men of the Civilised West worked from the past to the present times. They Have not changed at all; in fact they have gotten worse; they are Now 'discovering' wealth of their Own Citizens too. Mass murderers , thieves and sadists devoid of compaasion and remorse. Currently
The Apartheid Separation Wall. Genocide of palestinians And theft of land by the Zionist Regime of israel Enabled by the Corrupt and Mass Murderers of the American Government reminds
us of the Columbus days of the past.
 

Mary P. (157)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 2:32 am
Maybe the Native Americans should 'rediscover' America for themselves again and celebrate that
'Important' day when they get back the country that belonged to them in the first place!
 

Arild Warud (164)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 3:47 am
You know my stands on "Columbus Day" very well Dandelion - change it to Native Americans Day.
 

Apolonia Pl (400)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 4:02 am
I agree: "Columbus Day" should be changed to NATIVE AMERICANS Day !!!
BTW: how many Native Americans are in USA congress?...
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 5:24 am
You cannot currently send a star to Susanne because you have done so within the last week.
Good point on the petition Susanne and if I could see better I'd might of noticed it more clearly myself. My computer is on it's last legs and I can barely read anything. I had the article saved for this date so I knew what that was and tried to find petitions to go with it, again, with poor ability to read due to my computer I guess I did not do so well on the petitions as Richard pointed out a situation as well.
 

Marco Galli (71)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 6:03 am
I agree with everything except Colombo compared to Hitler, he did so much damage and killed, but his responsibilities are limited to the area of Cuba, Haiti and Panama: It seems that all the tragedies of America come from him.
Florida was invaded by the French, by British North America, Spanish and Portuguese have done a genocide of peoples from Mexico to Tierra del Fuego but Columbus, even though a criminal, was not the instigator of all this, whereas Hitler was the promoter of the genocide of the Jews and of the II world War.
The genocide of Native Americans of North America and slavery was fault only of U.S. People.
Colombo in this, despite being conferred to him by the culture, merits that he had not, in this has nothing to do.
If Columbus did not arrive, someone else would come in its place
and perhaps one of the Spanish conquistadores who slaughtered the Mayans.
 

ewoud k. (73)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 6:34 am
Signed all three.

Columbus day should be changed in a day of commemoration with another name.
 

FreeSpirit Running (324)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 6:40 am
Sheryl, I never liked the "holiday" ... because it was a farce, I have known this since a child.
I was just having this conversation with my son, Dakota whom is 17 {also being part CREE native} I have the opportunity to homeschool him. He is sooo against celebrating "Columbus Day", he told me that Columbus did not discover America but took it away. You see...I have taught him the "right" way of how this nation came to be so naturally he knows about slavery and how Columbus did not "discover" America but how him & the british took it away from our Native American ancestors. Leaving so much bloodshed of our Natives on this land it's a shame.

I am so glad that you put this article up hon, I will be showing this to my son to show him that others on this planet believe the correct way of how America got its history. He is also taking American History online and I, as his mother will be there to tell him how it really went down, not how the history books are teaching "the lies to our precious children, my son will know the REAL TRUTH! The schools need to "change" the history books to what really happened! I will also show him how our history affected today's American...Wall St, Banks etc. He wants to learn the real truth of how we got into this mess.

Wa do my sister for sharing this highly important issue, I signed as I do believe there should be no celebration for a person that "took" and "killed" our the natives of this land. May they all Rest in Peace...Bless your soul igido!

Walk in peace all ~
FreeSpirit * TEACH YOUR CHILDREN WELL, TEACH THE REAL TRUTH"
OneLove OneHeart
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 7:08 am
And thus with the coming of greed, the destruction of this beautiful, sacred land began. All 3 signed (#2228, 311, and 167). Thanks so much Dandelion.
 

John Gregoire (255)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 7:20 am
I have never understood why we celebrate this phony day. Columbus did not discover America and perhaps that's why we aren't called Columbia or Ericsonia?
At any rate while I concue with your statements, national holidays in toto have become a farce. Like everything else in this country it has become an excuse to party. We shouls start by stopping the artificial days and long weekends, then learn soemthing from history and teach it instead of these untruths.
 

Patrick Donovan (319)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 7:46 am
The basis for the celebration of Columbus Day and its relative Thanksgiving Day are myths. They are whitewashed stories to salve the American collective conscience. We are taught from the earliest grades in school about the dangerous savages and brave cowboys; how the Pilgrims shared with the people who were there first; how the Spanish settled the Southwest. All crap, all self-justification to gloss over the murders, the treachery, the butchery, the whole despicable history of Europeans on this continent. Unfortunately, they didn't stop there, these self-righteous slime and their children are still butchering in the name of profits.
 

Marco Galli (71)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 8:53 am
For me the problem is all in use of words, even in Italy is studying that the Genoese explorer, "Cristoforo Colombo discovered America", but nobody thinks that before him there was no a continent or of the American people.
As no one knows whether or not he was conscious of having arrived in America.
Even many researchers believe that many of the hierarchies knew of the existence of the continent (by the tales of the Viking Erik the Red), but the difficulties were derived from diplomatic questions, who should have the merit and rule on lands conquered: Only diplomatic reasons.
In fact, the governments of those times were not so gullible, in the Vatican, there were already ancient maps that describe an fourth part of the earth, only were not to divulge the secret to the people and for this Columbus was only a tool for the powerful of that time .
Even about the Native Americans, there is no certainty as to their origin, during the Ice Age Asia and America were united, and have been found traces of earlier people, not of North American Indians ethnic, people disappeared from centuries, perhaps even these, victims of a more ancient genocide.
 

. (0)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 9:59 am
all signed, Oct. 9th. thanks Dandelion and Henriette for the fwd.
 

Terrie Williams (769)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 10:31 am
Abolish Columbus Day and Rename It...2233. Signed.

#314 Abolish Columbus Day as a National Holiday
Your signature has been delivered to: George Bush, President of the United States, United States of America

Congratulations. You have successfully signed the petition:
Abolish Columbus Day and its Celebration
You are signer #171

Signed, noted and posted to FB
 

tracey p. (84)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 11:05 am
wholehearted agreement.
 

Joe R. (189)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 11:06 am
Thanks and signed 2 of the petitions. (Skipped the one with George Bush as the target.)
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 11:10 am
I'm not hung up on the word Marco, but the man, as Richard said, American must be pretty hard up for a hero. This man does not need a NATIONAL Holiday, and as you can differ on who is worse Hitler or Columbus in how many died by their orders, Columbus certainly is no one to Honor for any reason over here. As the article said:

One of Columbus' men, Bartolome De Las Casas, was so mortified by Columbus' brutal atrocities against the native peoples, that he quit working for Columbus and became a Catholic priest. He described how the Spaniards under Columbus' command cut off the legs of children who ran from them, to test the sharpness of their blades.

De Las Casas spent the rest of his life trying to protect the helpless native people. But after a while, there were no more natives to protect. Experts generally agree that before 1492, the population on the island of Hispaniola probably numbered above 3 million. Within 20 years of Spanish arrival, it was reduced to only 60,000. Within 50 years, not a single original native inhabitant could be found.

Whether this man stepped foot on Florida, Maine, or any other State of the Union that is now considered the United States or didn't step foot at all......He is NOT a man to be Honored. He wasn't born here, he belongs to another Country back when, even if he was born here he still should not be honored. I don't think the people of Italy would like to have a National Holiday to be in celebration of Hitler. These men who murder by the millions do not need to be honored and have a NATIONAL Holiday to them by any Nation.

If we do not understand who it is we are honoring, if we do not understand the correct history, then how are we to understand the ones who as Patrick stated are still doing similar things. These people now take the form of todays villians, they crash economies, they send troops to others Countries to kill their people not for protection to our Country but for protecing personal interests of the few who make money for it.

If we want a National Villians Day, then so be it. Then let us air the dirty laundry out for all to see. Let us tell all the children and adults what this man REALLY did and those who served under him. Let us use it as a teaching tool to morph into how these same type of policies did come upon the North American lands, and it matters not where the American Indians had originally came from, they were here and we were here for many many years before anyone else was here and we had our families, our villages, our lives, and no matter who came here, how dare they be so arrogant to feel they were Superior and had the right to kill at whim and destroy another people.

This man, sitting on our Calendar to be honored is a disgrace to everyone who lives here and in particular to the First Nations people. Call it Heritage Day, the Italiians can take pride in that. I'm not against Italians I'm against a National Holiday that honors a mass murderer.....period. Has been too easy to forget what has taken place for us to get to this point in 2011 and because it has been too easy to foget the masses are lead by the nose by other Columbus types of a lessor or equal degree to move along without question. War after war after war, the rape of other people and their lands all too back up with excuses of why it was needing to be done or why it was done.

Also the Spanish had also invaded Florida, a history of murder here by them as well. St. Augustines is the oldest City in the USA founded 1565 by Spanish explorer and admiral Pedro Menéndez de Avilés. The vicinity of St. Augustine was first explored in 1513 by Spanish explorer and governor of Puerto Rico, Juan Ponce de León, who claimed the region for the Spanish crown.

The French exploration of the area didn't began to 1562, under the Huguenot captain Jean Ribault. So perhaps someone else may or could of been first, but this is the factual history of what happened. This set the stage of the other ones to come. Columbus set the stage of just take what you want, kill at will, and don't even give it a thought what the people who are living there feel. It set the stage for Heartless Arrogance.

Thank you FreeSpirit for teaching your son well and this is how we must do it, one person at a time, but I will not stop until this man is removed as a National Holiday. Call it Heritage Day, Peace Day as the author said, I Love Pizza Day......just get this man's name off of our Calendars.

 

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 11:12 am
i told my daughter the truth when they started teaching it..it really confused her to be told one thing by me and another by her teachers. petitions signed, thanks i knew he was bad but i didnt realize how bad.
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 11:18 am
Print this out for her and have it sent to the Teacher as well. Is the only way to start nipping this in the butt.
 

FreeSpirit Running (324)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 11:39 am
Signature Receipt

Dear FreeSpirit Running,

Thank you for signing the petition entitled Abolish Columbus Day and its Celebration. This email acts as your signature receipt.

According to GoPetition’s terms, we have sent you this one-off email (signature receipt) for your records to confirm that you have signed the petition. No further action is required by you.

Just a share ~ Our children are smarter today then when we were learning out of our textbooks {ALL LIES} The Children nowadays do want to know the REAL truth and don't want to learn from outdated or lying textbooks anymore! They are beginning to understand that what we were taught was all in the name of money, greed & lies. This nation was based on all lies to the public! I am so glad the up and coming generation will know what is happening to our country, WE ARE THE VOICES!

Thanks again dearest Dandelion ~ you rock hon!

I am with you Sheryl, I will fight for what is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth!
In truth :)


 

Stella AWAY W. (258)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 11:49 am
No one, in ANY country's history can be regarded as 'lily clean and pure' - it depends from which viewpoint you look at it as it can make a major difference to your opinion! But, be that as it may, we have to learn NOT to repeat the disgraceful actions of the past - e.g. if the US of A withdraw their troops from all over the planet, they will have more than sufficient resources to cater for their own people and alleviate poverty, hunger, the works! Phyllis P, neither did I know - but being C2 members make us 'wake up and get real' fast! In South Africa we have Heritage Day, for each to celebrate his/her own culture (24 September) - but I would like all cultures to 'reach out' and learn something about a 'different' culture on that day. At the end of the day, teach your children always to explore and never to just accept anything 'taught' during school years as a fact.
 

Amber T. (1)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 12:38 pm
Columbus was a mass murderer.
 

Fred Krohn (34)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 1:04 pm
'Conquistadores of Mexico,
The Zulu and the Navajo,
The Belgians in the Congo!
Short memory...'
(Midnight Oil)
I'm 'celebrating' Leif Ericson day the day before 'in 1492 Columbus shipwrecked in the ocean blue'. An Englishman sailing for Spain with a marginal Italian navigator is not as impressive as a Viking who understood that he was in a new part of the world from day one. Forget that waste of breathing air conquistadore Columbus, he's just another imperialist.
 

Gloria Morotti (14)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 1:41 pm
Columbus tortured and murdered indigenous people. The truth needs to be told.
 

Barbara W. (342)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 2:29 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Dandelion because you have done so within the last week.
 

Barbara W. (342)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 2:31 pm
ABOLISH COLUMBUS DAY http://www.petitiononline.com/fadoct/petition.html
Abolish Columbus Day As National Holiday http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/abolish-columbus-day-as-a-national-holiday/
Columbus Day Nothing to Celebrate http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/abolish-columbus-day-and-it-s-celebration.html
 

monka blank (74)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 2:38 pm
Abolish Columbus Day and its celebration, and change history books, so we can learn the truth.
 

Glenda J. (158)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 3:13 pm
THANKS SHERYL FOR THIS INTERESTING ARTICLE
 

pam w. (191)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 4:58 pm
This isn't "news." I agree that "Columbus Day" should not be celebrated other than as a discussion of the evils of colonialism but, honestly....what's done really is DONE.
 

Val R. (242)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 6:10 pm
noted/
 

Bill Eagle (32)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 6:28 pm
Columbus Day is the same day as Canadian Thanksgiving. Either Columbus brought Syphilis to the new world, or the New world brought Syphilis to Europe through Columbus's crew. The French called it the Spanish Disease and the Spanish Called it the French disease. No one is completely sure of its origins, but it appeared around the time that Columbus returned from the New world.
 

Mary T. (186)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 6:42 pm
Thanks Dandelion for the post, I have sign all three petitions, I have known about this for a long time, Columbus was a evil monster and they don't teach that in school to Celebrate a day for him should be abolished and the truth should be told about him and all the evil things that he did.
 

Marco Galli (71)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 7:04 pm
In Italy we do not celebrate Christopher Columbus, nor the discovery of America,
Indeed, in a famous Italian film with Roberto Benigni, "We just have to Cry" the heroes back to the past and try to stop Columbus.
In Italy there was a ship "Cristoforo Columbo" but it sank like the Titanic.
If it were up to me in Italy we should celebrate the anarchist who killed the King of Italy and who tried to kill Mussolini.
I would like the Gaetano Bresci Day.
I might also recommend instead of Pizza Day, the "Sacco and Vanzetti" Day.
Certainly I will celebrate the day of death Berlusconi's Day.
However, if you also want somebody to hate, there is no need to look for someone born so far away, or died 500 years ago.
 

Robert Tomlinson (65)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 7:05 pm
Signed all three and Noted!
 

Ralph F. (64)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 9:24 pm
Maybe the holiday should be renamed, "National Bankster Day" in the tradition of stealing & slavery.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 9, 2011, 11:41 pm
None of our politicians are saints either.

I figure, it's not a matter of choosing a good man for the office. Any good man would have enough wisdom not to want it!

I'm trying to determine which politician is the least dangerous.

 

. (0)
Monday October 10, 2011, 1:19 am
I'm glad that our history books are slowly being revised to include a more realistic portrait of Columbus and others of his time. Since honesty in scholarship is important and trying to come as close to reality as possible is the most important goal in anything.

But we also have to remember that Columbus was a man of his time and in that time conquest (and its related atrocities) was a generally accepted form of acquiring land and possessions, whether among Europeans or among others (such as among many of those cultures already present in the Americas in pre-Columbian times, who often warred among themselves, conquered one another, enslaved one another, etc.) And if we judge those who came long before us by the standards of today very few will ever be seen as worthy of any amount of respect or admiration (and if we knew more about those remaining few, likely we'd think less of them as well).

I think the best we can do is judge anyone by the standards of his own day. And Columbus was the author of a serious accomplishment and one that literally changed the course of history . We can celebrate the accomplishment while still acknowledging the entire reality.
 

Bill C. (97)
Monday October 10, 2011, 3:06 am
Thank you so much for posting this and enlightening me once again, dear Sheryl. It is certainly not the BS we were all force fed in school.
 

Elsie Au (266)
Monday October 10, 2011, 5:53 am
Thanks for the post. Petition signed.
 

Rita White (55)
Monday October 10, 2011, 6:02 am
noted
 

patricia lasek (317)
Monday October 10, 2011, 6:24 am
I ceases to amaze me that we continue to honor this man and yet disregard the importance of the Native Americans in our history.
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Monday October 10, 2011, 7:36 am
Lindey according to the standards of his day.......he was STILL off the mark. Read the article and more on it. His own Priest turned on him. I don't think you give these people enough credit for knwing right from wrong back then, they knew, and his Priest knew. So that had NOTHING to do with the time nor his ignorance of it. He was plain and simple a HORRIFIC person.......so you think this should remain on the Calendar? Is that what I'm reading?

Also I love it how because an Indian fought another Indian then it somehow becomes ok for a non Indian to start mass genocide. Yes, there was some warring amongh Indian Nations but there was no Genocide and also the misinformation of history is ripe there as well. American Indians were made to sound like savages and that they were always warring with each other when that is NOT the Truth, but again the Lies that have been seeded and handed down over the time.

So Judge history all you want.......the facts still say he murdered, enslaved, tortured, stole so on and so forth so again........WHY is this man being Honored by our Country?

Ralph has it correct, name it Bankster day in the tradition of stealing and slavery. You see when a Country HONORS those things, via a man who was very adept at doing those things, then this is what this Country draws to ourselves.........what we HONOR is drawn to us.

I agree Marco, there are plenty of villians who were born on this land to place on the calendar if we want a looser, we don't have to find one from some other Country.

Maybe it is just more than high time we start honoring the truly honorable. I'd even accept some names Marco did give if people want to replace one of that heritage for another.
 

. (0)
Monday October 10, 2011, 8:02 am
I don't personally care whether Columbus Day remains on the calendar or not, Dandelion - to me it's just a day off from work.

And because a priest said Columbus was wrong you infer from that that he was way out of the standards of his own day? Quite a few priests today say that those of us (including me) who support abortion rights are wrong and that we're murderers for supporting legalized abortion. But legalized abortion is indeed part of the standard here in Western nations. Priests do tend to often have a rather different view on many things that a society considers acceptable outside the church. Of course, perhaps centuries in the future those of us who support legalized abortion today may be considered mass murderers for having done so (if that future society changes today's views on the subject.) And perhaps they'll judge us to be savages for having committed genocide against unborn children (especially since, from their perspective, many in our world today do supposedly know "right from wrong" in that respect and oppose abortion). Or perhaps some among them will more fairly judge us against the standard of our day and time. I also look forward to the judgment of history as to whether or not most people alive today are mass murderers, torturers, etc. for having committed so many atrocities against non-human animals. And hope that future judgment takes into account that although many (like me) oppose their use as food, most who do eat meat don't see themselves as having done anything out of the ordinary.
 

Jane H. (134)
Monday October 10, 2011, 8:42 am
Dandelion---thanks so much for "the other side of the story'!~ gruesome, indeed.
 

Lisa Neste (699)
Monday October 10, 2011, 11:29 am
Signed all three, thanks Dandelion for this post.
 

Scott Freewheeler (45)
Monday October 10, 2011, 11:46 am
Principles do not age. What is right today was right eons ago and vice versa. Morality does not change with the passing of time. Practices might but not the boundaries of good and evil. Even if every person on earth is sinning it does not make one's own sins any less serious.

I am fairly sure that God never said that if lots of us commit the same sin he will go easier on us. I can see no logical reason to believe this either. We will have to pay for everything we have said and done, regardless of what our brethren have done.

In any case, what this fiend was guilty of was never acceptable behaviour anywhere at any time except maybe in Hell. We cannot celebrate anything he did because he was a monster. His memory should be cast into oblivion to join his damned soul.

If you do not care about this day why try and excuse his demonic behaviour?

Having an abortion is in certain cases permitted in most jurisprudence in most Great Faiths as is eating meat. In certain cases, eating meat is obligatory, either for health reasons of because the land is not capable of supporting crops but no one on Earth, could ever successfully excuse his behaviour.
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Monday October 10, 2011, 12:37 pm
Sigh....I suppose you can make excuses for the inexcusable. For you it's a day off, you don't care, and that is the whole problem, too many don't care. I'm sure if members of your family were butchered and massacured it might be a different story if this man had a holiday to honor his misdeeds.

Does it not make you at all feel uncomfortable to know that millions of people both in the USA and around the world know what this man did and that the USA chooses to still Honor this type of a human being? What would you think if Germany chose to have a holiday to honor Hitler or maybe if Canada chose to have a date set aside to Honor Hitler. Wouldn't that make you think a bit ill towards a Country and it's people that would honor a mass murderer? We could say he lived in a different time too. So why don't you care that your own Country chooses to make an honoring day to a mass murderer.....no matter who he murdered.

We all want people to care when it is about us and fail to see that our brothers and sisters are us. Honoring this man is a slap in the face to the First Nations people, there is no Honor to this man, this should be a Day of Mourning.....to you, because you fail to feel and see the empathy towards others, it's a day off.

When we don't stand up to this and just sweep it under the carpet as I don't care it's simply a day off, then we have the same attituded perpetuated over and over again. Millions died at the hand of Hitler who learned by the mistreatment of the American Indians, millions died in Iraq from the Lies that was fed to a people.....this too is a lie of what is on our Calendar.....it needs to be removed.

Thank you Scott for your wise words.
 

Robert Tomlinson (65)
Monday October 10, 2011, 12:55 pm
Dandelion, I want to thank you for submitting this.
Let me take issue with some of your detractors.
When a person can be stopped from criiticizing by being bought off with a day off.....he/she should be ashamed of him/herself. Integrity is everything. All of us should strive to live lives of worth, reason and compassion. All of us have a lot of work to do to make this a better world and that means speaking truth to our leaders and to each other. All people have flaws, but we should not revel in those flaws. Columbus was not a simple man with simple flaws, he was a pediphile, a murderer, a torturer and a slave master. Those are not the qualities that should honored. We may be late in learning about this individual, but it is not to late to make corrections. If we fail to to take Columbus' name off ot the holiday list....let it be known that we, at least, tried.
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Monday October 10, 2011, 1:07 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Robert because you have done so within the last week.
Thank you.....and yes, I try....and will continue to do so. Just because it's on the calendar doesn't make it right.
 

Richard Zane Smith (86)
Monday October 10, 2011, 1:41 pm
Americans created their own myths that in time became sacred "american history"
Columbus is one, Ask the Senecas of NY about George Washington .
Shall we mention the ethnic cleanser Andrew Jackson honored and memorialized on our 20 dollar bill?
Myths have a hard time being replaced by actual history,even when the evidence is there.
NO one likes to admit they were wrong,or that their ancestors were actually racist butchers.
so even KNOWING it was wrong to ethically cleanse the eastern states
american 20 dollar bill will stay the same and promote the myth...
 

. (0)
Monday October 10, 2011, 2:41 pm
:-)
 

Iwona Krzeminska (73)
Monday October 10, 2011, 3:52 pm
Thank you, Dandelion, for all these addresses and this important article. I signed and shared, maybe too fast a little, my dear friends are with us. Thank you Antonio, Nick, Phyllis and Lisa and you all. I think Columbus Day is a rape and must be stopped and every your words and every your signature is needed and important. Your voices are the voice of the world. This is the world of my close friend - First Nation man too, so we both say thank you. I can't send you green stars... maybe later...
 

. (0)
Tuesday October 11, 2011, 5:42 am
Dandelion, members of my family were indeed "butchered and massacred" and the man in ultimate charge over that is indeed honored with a holiday - Abraham Lincoln. A great man in many ways and deserving of honor.

And Scott what you say is a good exemplar of what I was speaking of. You consider yourself an ethical being, I believe, or at least elsewhere you have said you try to live that way. But more and more people are coming to realize how evil it is to imprison, torture, and slaughter innocent living creatures. Yet you see it as perfectly ethical and I have no doubt you honestly see it that way. You are a man of your times. And because you were raised in a society in which so many still see those dreadful practices as acceptable you see them as acceptable. And one day when society has long outgrown those crimes, I hope those future people will judge those like you fairly and reasonably, and not consider those like you a monster merely because they held beliefs and did things that were part and parcel of their world's mindset.
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Tuesday October 11, 2011, 9:50 am
Lindsey you are deflecting now to do what? Insult someone on here? All you have to do is either agree that this holiday is justified as one this Country should continue or state, yes, it is high time a more suitable replacement is found. If you have had family butchered as you say,,then all the more reason you should be more understanding to this article.

Perhaps when Presidents Day comes up you could place an article on C2 about your position behind what you stated concerning Abraham Lincoln. But this isn't about Abraham Lincoln, it's about Christopher Columbus and all I've seen is you making more of a case to support this so called holiday than to suggest it should be removed. I fail to see, attacking another C2 member on this thread adds credence to your case. By pointing out other wrongs in Abraham Lincoln or what someone chooses to eat, I assume is what you were speaking about, does not make what Christopher Columbus did any better or acceptable. You are speaking apples and oranges. Take up the ethical issues of eating animals on the other threads that deal with those issues.

You want to Honor a Mass Murderer then so be it.....have a happy day off from work and honor the pedophile all you want or not. If you find no shame in YOUR Country leaving this disgusting date on the Calendar then not a thing I or anyone is going to say on here is going to change your mind.
 

. (0)
Tuesday October 11, 2011, 3:18 pm
All Signed
 

. (0)
Tuesday October 11, 2011, 3:19 pm
Noted
 

ellen m. (222)
Wednesday October 12, 2011, 10:59 am
All petitions signed! Thanks for posting ang sharing the links.
 

Deborah B. (65)
Wednesday October 12, 2011, 11:01 am
Hurray for the Huffington Post. Noted and Signed, of course (but the second one was to George Bush).
 

Beth M. (244)
Thursday October 13, 2011, 12:12 pm
Why do we whitewash history? Politians!
 

Angelika R. (143)
Thursday October 13, 2011, 1:08 pm
Thx Sheryl, signed the goPetition as the only one I could sign but I'd rather wanted to sign for renaming that day. Many of us, me included, have previously signed for renaming C day to Native American Day as I remember.
I had learned the facts on C2 here last year, so likely from you I guess. In school over here we did learn about A. Vespuci, however we were not told of the horror Columbus brought to your land.
 

Andrea Tackett (187)
Thursday October 13, 2011, 6:56 pm
This makes me very sad. I'm sorry, D, truly. I'm watching what you posted in group. God bless you.
 

Agnes Wojciechowska (152)
Tuesday October 25, 2011, 9:26 am
thanks for sharing
 

Nancy C. (798)
Monday October 31, 2011, 6:39 am
education is the key
 

. (0)
Monday October 31, 2011, 8:12 am
Thanks for posting, signed all petitions.
 

Alison Baker (25)
Monday October 31, 2011, 8:32 am
I don't "celebrate" this man. I consider the day "Indigenous Americans Day".
 

Elizabeth P. (102)
Monday October 31, 2011, 9:19 am
Noted and Great feed back. thank you.
 

. (1)
Monday October 31, 2011, 9:37 am
Noted. thank you Dandelion.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday October 31, 2011, 10:46 am
Noted, signed all three! Thanks Dandelion!
For anyone interested in a different take on Columbus and US history read Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States.
 

Susanne R. (249)
Monday October 31, 2011, 2:45 pm
"However, if you also want somebody to hate, there is no need to look for someone born so far away, or died 500 years ago."

Marco, with all due respect, you're missing the point. No one is "looking for someone to hate." I believe what Dandelion is trying to do, and I fully agree with her, is to stop honoring a man under false pretenses. He's guilty of genocide! He fed his vicious dogs by tossing babies to them! He raped children and sold them to other men for the same purpose. He took ownership of the indigenous peoples when he claimed their land, and he used all of them to add to the wealth he was accumulating. He had no respect for human life, and he deserves none himself. It's not a matter of deciding to hate someone. It's a matter of learning the truth and hating what you've learned. Italy produced hundreds of brave and notable heroes. Unfortunately, Christopher Columbus isn't one of them. To put him on a pedestal and pretend he was a great man is not only a lie, but a slap in the face to those who earned that title in an honorable manner.
 

wolfNoFwdsPls a. (135)
Monday October 31, 2011, 2:45 pm
" Comunbus Day " ---- Arrrggghhhhhh, what next ?
maybe a " Wannsee ", January 20, - holiday - to commemorate the Wannsee-conference of 1942-01-20 !?
 

Michael Carney (209)
Monday October 31, 2011, 4:11 pm
Noted, and signed them all...I know Columbus was a Murdering Pirate, and nothing more...Howeve my Italian friends would fight you to the death if they heard anyone bad mouthing Columbus...He's a great source of pride, to a lot of Italian heritage people in the area where I live...Sad to say...
 

Julija S. (87)
Monday October 31, 2011, 6:19 pm
xx
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Monday October 31, 2011, 6:36 pm
It is too bad that the Italians couldn't wrap themselves around another Italian more honorable. I wouldn't mind having Heritage Day, we could all celebrate our individual heritages, IF the Italians wanted to still raise their glass to him, then I guess so be it. Just don't have this man as a National Holiday for all people to supposedly honor. For First Nations people it truly is an insult and a slap in the face, and that is putting it mildly.
 

Brian M. (145)
Monday October 31, 2011, 11:56 pm
Christoper Colon, the Spanish privateer and explorer more commonly known as Columbus, clearly committed crimes against humanity and should not have a holiday named after him. The fact is Christopher Colon is not Italian and doesn't represent any of the accomplishments of Italians and Italian-Americans. Quite simply, Columbus Day should be replaced with National Italian-American Pride Day.
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Tuesday November 1, 2011, 6:34 am
ABOUT THE NAME

Columbus' name in English is actually an anglicized version of the Columbus birth name. According to most accounts, Columbus was born in Genoa, Italy, as Cristoforo Colombo, which is obviously much more similar to the English version than is the Spanish one.

In most of the major European languages, Columbus' name is similar to the Italian one: It's Christophe Colomb in French, Kristoffer Kolumbus in Swedish, Christoph Kolumbus in German and Christoffel Columbus in Dutch.

So perhaps the question that should be asked is how Cristoforo Colombo ended up as Cristóbal Colón in his adopted country of Spain. (Sometimes his first name in Spanish is rendered as Cristóval, which is pronounced the same.) Unfortunately, the answer to that appears to be lost in history. Most historical accounts indicate that Colombo changed his name to Colón when he moved to Spain and became a citizen. The reasons remain unclear, although he most likely did it to make himself sound more Spanish, just as as many European immigrants to the early United States often anglicized their last names or changed them entirely. In other languages of the Iberian Peninsula, his name has characteristics of both the Spanish and Italian versions: Cristóvão Colombo in Portuguese and Cristofor Colom in Catalan.

Incidentally, some historians have questioned the traditional accounts surrounding Columbus' Italian origins. Some even claim that Columbus was in reality a Portuguese Jew whose real name was Salvador Fernandes Zarco.

 

Gwendolyn Krupa (49)
Tuesday November 1, 2011, 8:28 pm
Thanks, Dandelion. Important read. I shared on facebook.
 

pam w. (191)
Thursday November 3, 2011, 10:23 am
I signed the petition.

Now...in all honesty, Columbus's deeds were no different than those of the European colonists in Africa and Asia or the Catholic church in Mexico or the actions of Islam when it murdered hundreds of thousands by sweeping the Mediterranean, etc.

NOBODY has clean hands....
 

Yvonne White (231)
Thursday November 3, 2011, 1:24 pm
I understand Columbus was the beginning of the end for Native Americans, and by High School we learned that (the 70's was a very pro-Indigenous people era, except where they still lived!).. I did always wonder why Amerigo Vespucci didn't have his own holiday, since the Continents were named for him!
Columbus Day should be replaced by Amerigo Vespucci day (which would satisfy the Italian-Americans) & another day should be allowed to celebrate Native American day! It's really the Least we could do, and we've always done the Least for Native Americans!
 

Dotti Lydon (116)
Thursday November 3, 2011, 2:39 pm
I missed this one the first time araound. Thank you for a much needed history lesson. Petitions will be signed.
 

Elle J. (279)
Thursday November 3, 2011, 3:31 pm
Noted,and signed with comment!
 

Elle J. (279)
Thursday November 3, 2011, 3:39 pm
All signed!
 

LeMoyn Salmonsen (90)
Friday November 4, 2011, 2:12 am
Signed the ones I had not already completed. Sent on again.

Pillage, plunder, enslavement and genocide are rather despicable examples upon which to promote celebration or bestow honors upon the leader of a predisposition leading edge of a 500 year reign of terror.
 

liz c. (846)
Friday November 4, 2011, 7:07 am
noted--thank you...and petition signed and shared on Fb.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday November 13, 2011, 5:14 pm
I can sum it up in 2 words. Columbus Sucks!
 

tasunka m. (334)
Thursday December 15, 2011, 9:30 am
better,late
than never,how did I miss this,am passionate about this grieving day.
signed, and bookmarked everything.
wow,,,,I dropped the ball,thanks for having our back,dandelion
 

Shelli S. (325)
Friday December 16, 2011, 10:15 pm
Aside from the fact, that Columbus was a sick mass murderer,it does make me wonder how factual, all our school books were or are, on our "heroes" or "icons" and what or who gives say, to what is published in school books? It angers me, that lies were fed to us and were in most parts, a lie or a huge fabrication! I don't like going through my life, knowing that school books, fed us lies and we praised awful, despicable tyrants!
What is truth and what is based on a certain person's beliefs, to be true...Thanks for posting, dandelion!
 

Shelli S. (325)
Friday December 16, 2011, 11:24 pm
BTW--Signed all 3 petitions and noted.
 

Julian Robert Gonzalez (112)
Sunday October 7, 2012, 6:48 pm
sigh,
This abuse needs to end yesterday.
S&N

Thank you Sheryl
 

Christeen Anderson (490)
Sunday October 7, 2012, 7:19 pm
Very informative article. Thank you.
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Sunday October 7, 2012, 7:39 pm
I thank you both for checking this out this year. I wish I didn't have to run it again, but sadly the Dominent Culture still wants to honor this Mass Murderer again this year. Until our society starts to really focus on the heart of the matter and understand what is making it tick, we will continue to have a messed up society.
 

Nancy C. (798)
Sunday October 7, 2012, 8:00 pm
I believe 2 petitions are still open. The truth is tough medicine. Reality is not on everyone's menu...
 

Jennifer C. (172)
Sunday October 7, 2012, 9:28 pm
Thanks.
 

Joe R. (189)
Monday October 8, 2012, 3:34 am
Yes. A truly horrendous this man! It makes no sense to celebrate a day of conquest and genocide.
 

Brian M. (145)
Monday October 8, 2012, 9:00 am
The reality is that Columbus, whose real name was Colon, wasn't even Italian: he was a Spanish privateer. And, as one might expect by installing a pirate as the ruler of a state, Christofer Colon was brutal in his repression of the people. Italian-Americans have much to be proud of, and they should have a holiday that celebrates all of their accomplishments in service to this nation...but Columbus Day is not it. No one in their right mind would celebrate Adolf Hitler Day, Pol Pot Day, Stalin Day, or any other day that commemorated any of the blood-thirsty butchers of history...therefore, we should not honor a man who managed to discover, not only a hemisphere that many Europeans had already visited, but also a place that was already well-populated. It is as ridiculous as if I sailed to Hawaii and declared myself the discoverer of that land. This pirate, this tyrant, Colon, deserves nothing but our contempt. Noted.

Abolish Columbus Day and its Celebration: You are signer #2360.

Abolish Columbus Day as a Nat'l Holiday: signer # 406

Abolish Columbus Day and Re-name it: the page had difficulties. I was unable to sign.
 

tasunka m. (334)
Monday October 8, 2012, 9:10 am
One of my pet peeves.
Columbus day should be named to Native American Day.
And everyone but Native Americans have to fast and meditate,and give mother Earth presents to repay the wrong they did to her...On a side note was learning a little about the mormons,seems they think Native Americans are Jews who didn't accept the faith and their skin was turned red for shame...Unholy B.S., they are crazier than first thought.
Thanks D
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Monday October 8, 2012, 1:25 pm
Well said Brian. Egads Tasunka, I did not know that information concerning the mormons. It never ends, so I guess if Romney gets in the Native Americans can expect more ill treatment than they get now, after all I guess their skin is the scarlet letter.
 

Liliana D. (124)
Monday October 8, 2012, 1:29 pm
Interesting comments and I agree with many of them even if controversial, but yes there should not be such day to celebrate. So I signed first 2 petitions. Thanks for this articol Dandelion.
 

Brian M. (145)
Monday October 8, 2012, 1:39 pm
Tasunka, you are right. The Mormons call native people, Lamanites. Native skin, according to the Mormons' book, is dark as a result of "God's curse upon them for their wickedness and corruption."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamanite

They also tried to hide their responsiblity for the slaughter of pioneers at the Mountain Meadows Massacre by disguising themselves as native people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre


 

SuSanne P. (182)
Tuesday October 9, 2012, 4:04 pm
TY Dandelion. I cannot believe I am only now reading this, as I look forward to your Columbus HISTORY yearly. Gladly signed the petitions.
SPEECHLESS!
You cannot currently send a star to Dandelion because you have done so within the last week.
Kenneth, the Americans DO have a Native American *Day*. It is the 4th Friday of each September.
 

Phillipa W. (199)
Wednesday October 10, 2012, 3:45 am
2 signed one didn't load. We need to do much more to integrate with our indigenous people and cultures, no matter where we are.
 

Lois Jordan (55)
Thursday October 11, 2012, 3:19 pm
Petitions gladly signed. Noted. Thanks for posting, Dandelion.
 
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