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Mass Genocide of Mohawk Children


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Dandelion
- 1063 days ago - bibliotecapleyades.net
Rev. Kevin Annett states that instruments of torture such as a rack for torturing the Mohawk children in ritual torture have been found at the now closed Mohawk Institute.



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Dandelion G. (380)
Friday November 25, 2011, 11:47 am
Mass graves of Mohawk children have been uncovered by ground-penetrating radar at the Mohawk Institute, a residential school for Mohawk operated by the Church of England and the Vatican before its closure in 1970.

According to Rev. Kevin Annett, Secretary of the International Tribunal for Crimes of Church and States (www.itccs.org), the Mohawk Institute was ďset up by the Anglican Church of England in 1832 to imprison and destroy generations of Mohawk children. This very first Indian [First Nations] residential school in Canada lasted until 1970, and, like in most residential schools, more than half of the children imprisoned there never returned. Many of them are buried all around the school.Ē

Please listen or watch the video included with this. One can hear how the program was interfered with by the National Security of the Country of Canada. This is not a story they wanted broadcasted, as it takes in too many High Officials who have covered up these crimes on chilldren and humanity. Please learn this and do not let these children die in silence, the ones' who heard the screams did not care, but we can care. Finding their graves their voices speak, let us hear.

A petition can also be signed at:
NATIVE CHILDREN GENOCIDE
 

Barbara K. (83)
Friday November 25, 2011, 12:31 pm
How sad, thanks, my friend.
 

Kamila A. (141)
Friday November 25, 2011, 12:32 pm
Thank you Dandelion. The truth is sometimes hard to hold, but it must be brought out. I am so sad, words fail me.
 

Antonio M. (129)
Friday November 25, 2011, 12:56 pm
Signed and noted. It's unbelievable that a heinous crime of genocide like this one, had happened in the 20th Century!

Thank you Dandelion!
 

Allan Yorkowita (445)
Friday November 25, 2011, 1:00 pm
England had a lot to answer to. Will we get answers, of course not.
 

Jim Phillips (3209)
Friday November 25, 2011, 1:27 pm
Another black mark for the Catholic Church.
Another religious institute trying to force people into their way of thinking.
If not assimilated into the Catholic Church, the children are punished and buried.
Time for the Indian nation to file suit against the Catholic Church. Those Indians forced
to become Catholics should denounce the catholic religion completely.

TY, Dandelion.
.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday November 25, 2011, 1:41 pm
how senseless :(
 

Mary T. (186)
Friday November 25, 2011, 2:00 pm
Horrible, thanks Dandelion for posting this, So gladly signed and shared, England and the Vatican has a lot to answer to, To lost for words on this.
 

Dianne Lien (77)
Friday November 25, 2011, 2:59 pm
Dandelion, more info from Rev Kevin Annett Alfred.... ITCCS.org; Hiddenfromhistory.org; Blogtalk radio/Kevin Annett; SpectrumRadioNetwork; Youtube Kevin Annett. An interesting fyi Mohawk Children were classified as Wards of the State, not as Citizens. This is truly a black mark on the Church and Queen Ellizibeth....genocide is unforgivable. Canada will not do anything about this.
 

Dandelion G. (380)
Friday November 25, 2011, 3:11 pm
Thank you Dianne for leaving the extra information. I've been aware of Rev. Kevin Annett for some time now and we all have much to be thankful for in his tireless quest. This is a man who didn't turn his head when the information of the natives plight first became aware to him.
 

Norm C. (74)
Friday November 25, 2011, 4:10 pm
OMG!
 

Bob P. (427)
Friday November 25, 2011, 4:31 pm
Thanks for sharing Dandelion
 

(0)
Friday November 25, 2011, 8:35 pm
Kevin actually spoke at my University. His talk was very well received. Thanks.
 

. (1)
Friday November 25, 2011, 9:55 pm
Noted with horror also signed. Thank you Dandelion.
 

Good H. (3827)
Friday November 25, 2011, 10:17 pm
Awful...

I just watched a Netflix documentary movie about how chocolate companies are knowingly hiring child slaves to harvest cocoa beans, which is made into chocolate consumed all over the world.


http://thedarksideofchocolate.org/
 

ParsifalOFFLINE S. (100)
Friday November 25, 2011, 10:19 pm

Unbelieveable
Speechless!

Wonder what excuse Ratzinger and HM would find for this massacre beyond words.
 

Deborah L. (70)
Friday November 25, 2011, 10:42 pm
It never ends. The U.S. government until the middle 1060 would take girls from the rez and claim they were going to take out their appendix but they were sterilizing them. in the middle 60's about 300 babies were born and the powers that be were giddy about it and claimed that the next year there would be even less babies born in Indian country. That info came from a history book which I sold to a person on the red road for his private collection.

Check out the Carlisle Schools and what they did to the Native children in this country.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday November 25, 2011, 10:48 pm
Google and learn ... GENOCIDE: WORSE THAN WAR. Full-length PBS documentary or shorter informational pieces.

Awareness is needed here, then a huge social networking outcry for change in places where this still goes on. LET'S GO.
 

Ben Oscarsito (316)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 1:11 am
Petition signed. Yes, it's unbelievable, and I am speechless...
 

Arild Warud (166)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 1:29 am
Signed and Join Ben's sentiments,thanks for posting Dandelion.(I'll save the video till after the weekend)
 

Ancil S. (175)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 1:30 am
Dear God,I'm stunned.
 

Penelope P. (222)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 4:06 am
OMG Is it true though?
 

Pam Burton (24)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 4:28 am
I have taught Loom Beading for many many years.....and sold supplies-looms-finished loomwork.....and I am continually amazed at the number of Amerikan Citizens who have never even heard of the infamous "Carlisle Schools"....where Native Children were stolen from their families and forced to leave their Heritage behind....Where they were raped and sodomized.....where they were forced to work til they starved to death....Folks wonder WHY "we" are angry with the "invaders" and "stealers" of OUR LANDS......EVERY treaty-over 300- states..."This land will be held-IN TRUST- for ?tribe? AS LONG AS THE RIVERS FLOW-THE WINDS BLOW-THE SUN SHINES"....Instead-OUR Great Turtle Island has been "doled out" to the rich and whoever the rich needed favors from-then raped and ruined.....all due to the greed of those who came with guns and bullets to steal what rightfully belonged to someone else.....And now the rich 1% want even what belongs to the less fortunate "whites"....THEY are coming to put YOUR CHILDREN into slavery......Aho-all my relations-it comes FULL CIRCLE!!!!!!!
 

Jytte Nhanenge (64)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 4:36 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxUXEU5xsiA&feature=related

This is a shorter version video, saying the same thing, however not as impressive as the interview.

Here is the hotlink to the International Tribunal for Crimes of Church and States http://itccs.org/

Here is the hotlink to Vatican Crimes Revealed: http://www.vaticancrimes.us/

I listened, Dandelion, to the whole interview. At 24 minutes the following information is given. It is given twice due to seemingly technical interruptions: Witnesses saw and have testified that Queen Elizabeth and her husband in October 1964 took 10 aboriginal children for an alleged pick-nick. The children were never seen again.

That the white Northern elite did this to indigenous people in the past, I know; that they still are doing it, I did not know. I know of many other atrocities against traditional people, women, and children but those are done mainly in the poor South; I did not know this. It breaks my heart that the human race is so emotionally unbalanced that they can commit such satanic activities.

Thank you Dandelion, for distributing the evidence. We can never correct our unbalanced mindset unless we know how seriously the actual imbalance is. As you quoted George Santayana somewhere else: "Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it"
 

patricia lasek (317)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 5:42 am
This sickens me!
I signed the petition. The truth will come out and it will be worse than we can even imagine.
 

Carmen S. (612)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 6:05 am
how sad, thanks for sharing this, Dandelion
 

LaurenSICK Kozen (159)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 6:06 am
Noted. Thanks for posting, Dandelion.
 

LeMoyn Salmonsen (88)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 6:16 am
Thanks Sheryl, I must say this newly reviled chapter of this never ending story, puts a capper on yet another Thanksgiving weekend in America. As Deborah so accurately expressed it; "It never ends."

Mans inhumanity to his fellow man, the Mother and their own spirit is boundless in there degrees of horror and repulsion. Or so it would seem to the dwindling remnants of the sane among us. It becomes increasingly difficult, at times, to have accepted the realization; there is no Dauntieís Inferno version of hell. I find myself, in moments of weakness, after reading such accounts, wanting there to be a justice proportional to their deeds. Deeds all too frequently committed in the name of some distorted degenerate version of a god. What kind of god must this be, conjured in the minds of madmen, that would sanction such hate, greed, viciousness and horror be wheeled upon its own children, persisting in infinitude? I think I do not want to know this god of theirs, nor any version known today or yet to be unveiled of its kinsmen awaiting their opportunity to reek their own special flavor of torment and suffering upon the weakest of mankind. Itís a great life, providing you donít weaken.
 

Merike Lillenberg (51)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 7:05 am
Signed. No words!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 7:33 am
Sadly noted.
 

Jean Corcoran (1)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 7:55 am
TEARS, nothing but TEARS. WHAT DO YOU THINK REALLY HAPPENED TO NATIVE AMERICANS?
 

Kit B. (276)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 8:17 am

Thanks Dandelion for the update. I signed the petition and made a donation to the film makers. It really is a comment about just how poorly our news outlets follow up and present actual events to public. Things that occur in secret inevitably are meant to cause harm and destruction for a society. Just how is this different from Nazi tactics?
 

Elsie Au (266)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 8:47 am
Noted and petition signed.
 

Richard Zane Smith (86)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 9:11 am
through many missionaries eyes, my ancestors were seen as "Canaanites" (at best - the lost tribes of Israel ) Christianity brought salvation to these Canaanites/heathens from their "idolatrous ways" IF THEY WOULD RENOUNCE ALL TRADITIONAL WAYS. These schools were psychological de-programming institutions, which felt a saved Indian could at least rise up from savagery to become educated servants of white american citizens. I wish i could show you photos of the children that attended the boarding schools here in Wyandotte Oklahoma at the Seneca Indian School. Rows of standing girls with their maid caps on... Indian girls of various tribes reduced from being once the CENTER and CORE of indigenous societies, future clan-mothers of power and respect ,now pacified and broken down to be servants of men and white americans who needed cheap labor. yes...kids died all the time...usually buried in unmarked graves...now forgotten...
 

Richard Zane Smith (86)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 9:18 am
Look over Mohawk territory and on the highest hills there will be a stone church with its phallic symbol piercing the sky. Our sweat lodges are the exact opposite...quiet,private,ceremonies,and are the exact representation of the womb. Its no wonder our people were targeted.
 

Deborah L. (70)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 9:26 am
sorry I got the wrong date it should have read 1960's. new computer still adjusting to build in keyboard and no more dial up.
 

Deborah L. (70)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 9:48 am
Richard , those photos you speak of are easily found. Research the Carlisle Schools which shows many of them. Most books pertaining to Native history has these pictures. I tend to have a large number of books Native themed. When I traveled the red Road and sold what I made, my customers wanted books as well. I searched and found almost every request for them and also built up a good library of the history of many tribes, books on American history that told of the mistreatment done to these people.

Did you know that the first case of "germ warfare" was done in America to the native Peoples ? Even though the government technically did not authorize it, they were made aware of the Blanket fever when a top military member mentioned it to the higher up in government that this could be done to eliminate a large number of the native Peoples and though it was not ordered, it was agreed that this would be a good thing. And it happened. Many of the lower peons of the military did not know the blankets were contaminated.

For those who insist America was founded on "Christian values" I ask you what values. It certainly was not the one that states: Thou shall not kill, or lie, or steal, or disrespect in thou shall honor thy father(God/Creator) and mother (Earth), nor covet thy neighbors wife as many women were raped by these same "Christians" and as for the justification of why these religious people did this, WE ARE STILL WAITING.

I often wonder if the God they claim to worship will ask them why they broke his rules and destroyed many of his creations when they stole the New World when and if they arrival at St. Peter's Pearly Gates. Oh yes, that is heresy isn't it.

 

Yvonne F. (177)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 10:32 am
How horrible!!!
 

Patricia E. G. (56)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 10:34 am
The British Monarchy is guilty of numerous
deplorable actions and must be held accountable

Noted & Signed for the Mohawk Children
Thank you Dee
 

Cynthia Davis (340)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 12:09 pm
Signed Thank you Dandelion
 

Russell D. (1)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 12:47 pm
A truly tragic loss to humanity and sad reflection of the fact that so often the perpetrators are supposedly divine beings, this is not nor will it ever be Gods will, simply the will of men hiding behind religion and Government office , who seek nothing more than wealth and power at any cost, a disgrace to humanity!!!
 

Vicky P. (466)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 12:56 pm
omg, that's terrible..
 

Kenny V. (173)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 1:06 pm
Thanks Dandelion, listened with horrors throughout the night.Signed and commented on the petition also. I have some thoughts and speculation that was touched here in this video.I won't go off topic about it tho.I agree ,and not from a christian viewpoint maybe,but the actions are clearly "satanic",as is the system we are within that miserably prevails society.This is a horrific and important update, i remember Russel Means interviewed with Kevin Annett some years back.The net to shelter those who committed and protect genocide, put up to prevent the truth is a crime in itself. The comments here say so much. In remembering the poor Mohawk children and all that suffer today from tradition being turned into terror,we have pry the truth from the rotten regimes that only do good to cover their evil tracks.When one is traded for the other it's rotten to the core without any true good desired, just used as a illusion to hide their intentions.The books themselves warn of false prophets and gurus because it keeps happening.The world can see them for what they are by their actions alone.

I think back also to the sterilization of Native Women, I need to read up on it again, In the 70's ,up to i think 1976, questionably Native women were "treated "and told it was temporary, but when they went to have the sterilization reversed, they were told it was permanent.It happened in Puerto Rico also.American Indians seem to be the only people who's population continually drops still? I wouldn't be surprised to know that the same is for the Indigenous in Australia and New Zealand as well.Just watch the pack that veto's indigenous rights & recognition in the UN.... Another part to the clandestine ethnic cleansing still going on today that disobeys every law and gets away with it.

The continuing genocide is proof of the oligarchy that survives that is guilty. Those who protect them are just as guilty. Ignorance is just a lie.This is older and more current continually than any ignorance can claim.Those behind the Genocide are the same who committed it across Europe, These are the same tyrants who brought us the Dark Ages before torturing the Native shores.We are still in the "Dark Ages".The system itself a misleading death sentence. Even Presidents spoke of secret society's within Government, It's time we confronted them all and held them all accountable.They are still here as horrible as ever.
Thanks Dandelion and all the helpful comments , i can't add much here but hopefully in other ways we all can to cure the wicked disease that rots within this "civilization"
 

Hector R. (3)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 1:23 pm
This kind of things are the ones that keep me away from "religion", I mean human made religions.
I believe in God, and I try to have a personal relationship with him but religions are just superstition.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 1:26 pm
This is even bigger than what is here. You can bet it's more than the Pope, Queen, Rothschilds, and Rockefellers. Remember the child abuse and satanic accusations under the Bush 1 administration? This is how the elite get their jollies. They are a very sick lot!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 1:59 pm
only 3 men were alive at the time that my ancestor, Chief or "King" William Tapptico II died after the invasion of the British. Captain John Smith had signed a contract with his father, Chief William Tapptico I, after tribes people had been burned alive, their land stolen, to sell to the British thieves ("Christians") what acreage had not yet been stolen forcefully, and then to allow his son, "King" William Tapptico II to live upon this land until his natural death occurred. His widow and three children then moved 50 miles inland and purchased land. I wonder whether my ancestor actually died naturally, since the greedy British had already killed 99% of them for the land and gloated over the bloody deluge that doused partially the flames that consumed them as their skin peeled and dropped away from their tissues, releasing the flood. To this very day, money rules too many hearts and souls and minds. The false notions of ownership, human supremacy, divisions, "other" are destroying all that are meant to live freely.
 

Richard Zane Smith (86)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 2:04 pm
Once one holds a book that is believed to be "the word of God"
any verse can be used to justify any action one wants to fulfill.

Col. John Chivington an ordained Methodist minister , massacred and ordered the butchering of women and children at Sand Creek 1864 was a missionary to my own people 1853 (Wyandot) before he left and went out west to Colorado.

The Methodist Church of course condemned his brutality ...but i'm sure he was familiar with the verse :
"Show no pity:life for life,eye for eye,tooth for tooth, hand for hand,foot for foot."
supposed commands by "God" in Deuteronomy 19:21 to deal with those occupying the land
that God was giving the "chosen people"...MANY euro-settlers saw indian people as the canaanites to be flushed from the lands before them.
In August of 1864, Chivington declared, "the Cheyennes will have to be roundly whipped -- or completely wiped out -- before they will be quiet. I say that if any of them are caught in your vicinity, the only thing to do is kill them." A month later, while addressing a gathering of church deacons, he dismissed the possibility of making a treaty with the Cheyenne: "It simply is not possible for Indians to obey or even understand any treaty. I am fully satisfied, gentlemen, that to kill them is the only way we will ever have peace and quiet in Colorado."
 

WAYNE LEMARBLE HM3 (7)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 2:33 pm
HORRIBLE BEYOND BELIEF-YET IT IS TRUE.
 

ewoud k. (73)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 3:08 pm
Things lik this should never be covered up - investigation prevents, or let's more medestly say: helps prevent, this kind of things to happen again and again and again.

Thanks Sheryl.

And for those who missed the petition:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/native-children-genocide-in-brantford-by-queen-windsor-pope-j-ratzinger/
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 3:12 pm
Thank you for this article, and this revelation . It was terrible to hear, but needed.

I rarely say this but I am grateful I was born in Ireland, had no relatives who searched out native peoples and killed them, and sadly I have to add we had our own of the Queen and her Country to deal with .....But the horror of what was done in the name of Christianity never ceases to shock and appall me.

I agree; those children need to find peace for their forgotten bones and cries. My deepest sympathy to those of you who are descendants of the indigenous peoples of any country, you have a burden of pain to carry......Signed and donated.
 

Dotti Lydon (113)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 3:15 pm
Noted with saddness. Thanks ewoud for link to petition site.
 

Rebecca B. (2)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 3:18 pm
Just signed the petition...Oh my god! reading and learning about this both broke my heart and turned my stomach.To think that people could do such heinous and deplorable things to children...-and/or any human being for that matter!-makes me physically ill and SO angry! Especially when they try to use religion as an "out" to excuse torture and genocides such as this,from centures' past even to present day,it is still going on and it's time thebritish monarchy and the catholic church were held liable for their crimes,past and present! Justice needs to be done so those poor childrens' remains can be properly buried and their spirits can finally be at peace. Thank you Dandelion, I don't even know what else to say.It's just so overwhelmingly sad...:-(
 

Vicky Locke (3)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 3:33 pm
Sickening. Is there no limit to the depths of depravity to which "my people" will sink? Petition signed and commented, thanks for the opportunity.
 

Barbara V. (51)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 4:04 pm
If this is true, then there are definitely pockets of evil scattered hither and thither that no one knows about or cares about. How could such a horror happen without its being discovered before now? Why would Elizabeth II have a hand in it? Has she turned intoo a monster? I was suspicious before when Diana died; I thought it might have been set up, but this story beats all. It is shocking, beyond redemption, and only proves that mankind will continue with evil of all kinds because no one will stop them. I can only hope for the day when the whole thing backfires on them. My God.
 

Robert Tomlinson (65)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 4:22 pm
Terrible. Talk about EVIL!!
 

Frank S. (459)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 4:32 pm
Truly sad, and tragic!
 

Pat B. (354)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 4:43 pm
The Catholic and Anglican churches, the monarchy, .....no words can express the horror, and revulsion of these acts towards these Children. Absolutely heart wretching, and profound sadness, I listened to whole interview, so thankful the interview is on tape!! Passing this article on...Signed.
 

Ge M. (218)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 4:52 pm
This is an appalling crime towards the Mohawks and this continues with the American and Canadian governments even now. All other Native Americans suffer too from the appalling continuing neglect and ill treatment by these governments. Shouldn't they be prosecuted?

If they were actually gathering evidence to enable prosecution of the people who actually committed this atrocity then I would be supportive. However, this group that Annett runs is a vigilante group which is trying to glorify itself by attacking people who had no knowledge of what happened, were not involved as this school was set up in 1832 (Queen Elizabeth was not on the throne and Pope Benedict XVI had not assumed the papacy and, in fact, neither had even been born) and most certainly would have objected had they been made aware.

If Annett wants justice for Native Americans then he should be using the money to sue for breaches of treaty and compensation owed to many tribes by both governments. In the meantime the FBI should be investigating the murders under public scruitiny to ensure that the actual murderers are brought to trial.

I don't support vigilantes but I do support justice.

 

Ian MacLeod (79)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 5:19 pm
There has been more evil going on in the world than most people have been aware of for as long as there have been governments and religions. It is STILL happening, right under our noses, and now much of it is happening to US! Look into "The Great Culling," the "Depopulation Agenda," Agenda 21," "REX 84," Chem-trails, weaponized vaccines, etc. Pity these children, yes, but pity yourselves and your own children now as well. We have ALL been victimized by the creatures who started with :the lesser people, the savages of the world," using them to learn how to present their torture and "removal" by "higher civilizations" meaning us, sickeningly. Bringing these acts forward into the public eye is a great beginning to waking people up. I just hope that similar things that are still going on aren't forgotten; they are all linked!

Ian
 

marie c. (168)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 5:31 pm
Thanks Gillian for giving us more facts this often happens now on Care 2 One is so horrified by the thread then after we have signed the true facts appear Had not heard of this vigilante group or Annett
 

kathryn cook (628)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 5:40 pm
Thanks for sharing Dandelion
 

Caitlin Mac Iver (103)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 6:42 pm
This is outrageous to be happening in "modern" times (that seem to be turning backward at a terrifically high rate). It is unconscionable evil and we must stop sanctioning its happening by us doing nothing. Thanks for the info, Dandelion and for getting the word out. Also signed the petition noted in Dandelion's first comment. My sad condolences to all native Americans whose families suffered through this and other invaders' actions. Be well, my brothers and sisters.
 

Gloria H. (88)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 7:06 pm
this needs to be exposed! It is very believeable considering the horror imposed on Native American children in the not so distant past. My own ancesters from family lore...Free Methodists who converted "cannibals to christianity" in Haiti, Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico. I found out through my grandfather, that they really had converted Catholics to Protestants! All in lust to convert souls! Small wonder I have no desire to trace the family tree...way too many nuts on the branches. I apologise to all for the transgressions of my zealot forefathers and mothers.
 

Gloria Morotti (14)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 7:28 pm
And to think this is no doubt only the tip of the iceberg. Man's inhumanity to man is endless, it would seem.
 

Donn M. (56)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 8:53 pm
Seriously, we're supposed to believe that Queen Elizabeth took 10 kids out on a picnic and murdered them? Think I will wait for some actual evidence and not just conjecture and hearsay on whether or not thousands of kids were killed and buried at this Mohawk Institute.
 

Aquillion V. (0)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 9:05 pm
as the heights and depths of these and other attrocities are brought into the light, the evil truth will finally be revealed for all to see
 

Ian MacLeod (79)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 10:07 pm
Thanks to a lady who didn't post here but nonetheless gave me a star, and also thank you, Gillian - I knew there was something about the bit with Ratzinger that bothered me, but I just assumed she was using him to represent the Vatican and Catholicism. Nope, you're right: she lays it right in his lap. Considering his background I suspect he would have condoned the school's practices had he been there at the time, but this was a bit of an inaccurate, shit-stirring screed, if you'll pardon the earthy expression. It DID happen, though, and not just there. Even in the "best" of such "schools," native children were forced to have their hair cut and to wear white-style clothes, were separated from their families, beaten for using their own language with the intent to take it away entirely (it worked, too), and many were very, very brutal. The sad and angering thing is, we're no different now! Remember "Rebuilding Iraq"? Is it rebuilt? No! Not at all! We destroyed it, and now we've bombed the hell out of Libya and are looking at Iran as the next target. Contrary to the claims of those who really believe in English's newest oxymoron, (first articulated, most appropriately, by our most recent Presidential moron), "humanitarian bombing", the damned "smart-bombs" do NOT dodge around small children and pregnant women! Anyway, my point is that America is still frequently involved in acts of terrible death and destruction against countries that couldn't possibly have threatened us. What they threatened were corporate profits, and the OWS movement does today. Those standing nearest the Wall Street offices of the 'elites' are likely safe from bombs, big bombs anyway, but police handling of protesters is getting more deadly as time passes. As always, the excuses are utterly bogus, but the methods of attack and damage to human lives are NOT.

Back to Native Americans, they're not treated any better now than they were in the 1800s. Everyone's horrified about the conditions on so many Reservations, STILL nothing gets done, AND the politicians are STILL cheating them. My conclusion has to be that not much has changed. Death is death however it comes - one to a customer whatever the skin color, by outright murder, or by starvation and poisoning. I had ancestors in the "Trail of Tears" ("The Trail Where They Cried" is more accurate), and while none were in the Cavalry, all of my white family has served in the military during times of war. Again though, none in the "Indian Wars".

America has always been strongly influenced by corporatism, and according to some (so far unverifiable by me) reports, even one of the Founders, after Shay's Rebellion commented something to the effect that "We can't have the ordinary, dirty-handed and unlanded workingman thinking that all of the Constitution applies to him!" I'd not be surprised. The Founders were themselves landed nobility, and even with the latter renounced as Americans, there has been an unofficial but very nobility in America, that "nobility" being marked and shown by extremes of wealth. They are as intolerant of people who get in the way of profits now as their fathers (they are also very patriarchal) were then. It tends to fatal, in fact. If we're going to change this, somehow we MUST rid ourselves of ANY sort of nobility, official or unofficial, and THAT means limiting wealth. The only way to do that at this point is take away much or even MOST of the wealth of the "elites" and the thieving corporations and to pass laws that will forbid such accumulations of it in the hands of small groups ever again. And THAT is why they becoming more frightened as OWS continues. That is what triggered the violence against the First Peoples here, and it's what will destroy what remains of America if we're not very careful.

Meanwhile, there's nothing stopping us from acknowledging the evil done in the past, or our trying to remedy what remains of it today. Nothing but the will, and that can only be built by showing others what was done and what still is as a result. So thank you for this posting!

Ian
 

Ian MacLeod (79)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 10:10 pm
And please excuse the typos. *sigh* Big fingers, tiny laptop keys.

Ian
 

Brigitte T. (69)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 1:17 am
Thank you Dandelion. The truth needs to be told. And we demand justice for all those children and their families.
No more evidence is needed, we already have the testimonies of the survivors and the mass and individual graves that were found. This for the ones who continue to be in denial as far as the genocide of the Native Americans is concerned. We want awareness and we demand Justice for all the children who were abused, tortured and killed!
 

Heather Sams (0)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 2:48 am
Thank you for sharing... These poor precious children.
 

Bracha Kay (31)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 2:49 am
This sounds very similar to what happened to my ancestors in Eastern Europe, the mass graves, the abduction of children.
Thanks Dandelion.
 

glenda b. (2)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 3:50 am
This makes me want to cry know that this happen but I'm sure there are many people that don't or
want to believe that crime would have happen with the CHURCH behind it ......
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 4:10 am
As far as I can discover, Queen Elizabeth was never in Kamloops, BC. in Oct. 1964 when she purportedly murdered 10 children there.
Any evidence, no let's say PROOF, to the contrary would be good.

http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/exhibits/jubilee/chronvisit.htm

http://www.pch.gc.ca/eng/1287081369719/1786-1951-eng.cfm

One thing I'd like to say is if you're talking about the spirit of a murdered child, make sure the child was murdered first, make sure you know or spread the truth about it, make sure you're right, make sure you're correct, because the LAST thing the spirit of a dead child wants IMO is anybody thinking or saying something false about how they died, whether they were murdered or not, who did it, and how they did it. Do you think? In other words you had better be right, correct, and have the exact truth about it or you're doing a great disservice to that spirit. Anybody want to argue with that, let me know.
 

marie c. (168)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 6:23 am
I agree I like to hear true facts as we all know stories passed on in every family tend to grow bigger and bigger over the years .We all are very much aware how native Americans suffered and are still suffering.
A heading like MASS GENOCIDE ON MOHAWK CHILDREN is a bit over the top especially with this Annett fellow behind it. I hate any kind of sensationalism without 100% proof it only plants doubt We really need to help the Native Americans this kind of publicity does not raise money reciting old books that have been lost or given away does not help. Factual petitions to the right sources need to be addressed NOW
 

Ken O. (57)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 6:31 am
I'm appalled at this but not surprised. It seems the wealthy and powerful have an insatiable appetite for torture, pedophilia and perverted activities of all sorts including murder and criminal activities as well. Please Google "Conspiracy of Silence" to discover what has gone on in this country, initially covered by the press but suppressed by our own government due to the involvement of the CIA, FBI and both Congressmen and women, up to and including the President at the time George H.W. Bush. It's scary what our "representatives" in government get away with routinely. Then Google the "Bohemian Garden", it's the annual retreat for the uber wealthy.
 

Ge M. (218)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 6:33 am
Many of the comments following mine are bang on the button. This abuse did happen and many Native Americans suffered and continue to suffer which is why I would rather spend the money helping them than chasing a ghost, let the proper authorities deal with the real criminals.

Many tribes today are refused legal recognition by their state because they weren't recognised at the appropriate time......... And, many tribes who aren't recognised today have simply been wiped out. An example was handing out blankets used by people with chicken pox. The Native Americans had no immunity to White Man's illnesses and died.

The Cherokee were a peaceful nation but who fought with Jackson and he owed them much. They were farmers and owned black slaves. Jackson did not want America contaminated with "Indians" and forced another treaty after deliberately breaking the one in existence. The people were forced out, robbed, abused and their land handed to others (who subsequently abandoned it) and made to go on the Trail of Tears which started by being kept in close quarters in a fort with insufficient food, clean water, medicine or accommodation. Eventually they left and died in hunger along the trail, white people shut their doors on them when they needed help, you know, the good kind "Christian" folk".

The Trail of Tears was actually the foreced relocation of many Native Americans which included not just the Cherokee but also Muscogee (Creek), Seminole, Chickasaw, and Choctaw nations as well as many others from the South Eastern parts of the US to Eastern Oklahoma. The promised quality animals, food and other provisions were not forth coming as part of the compansation and just a few poor animals were available.

The story continues to this day after the foreced relocations with compensation still outstanding to a poor people unable to work as "normal" people because they are even more prejudiced against than any other race living in America and they do not receive the support that the millions of illegals receive. This leaves these abused people with the highest rate of alcoholism and rape within the community. In winter the support to help them does not arrive from the America government and power is often cut off to the reservation leaving them to starve and freeze.

There is a similar story in Canada, the Mohawks suffer terribly as their rights are trampled on by the government.

That the children were removed from their parents to be "educated" in an effort to destroy the history and heritage of their own people is well documented and well known. That some were murdered is incontroversial knowledge. That they have found some of these children at the site of the school does not surprise me.

Dandelion is right, we do need to keep these stories alive and force the governments to do something.
 

Ge M. (218)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 6:35 am
For those who were not interested the first time

Justice for Naomi Whitecrow
http://www.care2.com/news/member/100661215/3013970

A little Native American girl who was, allegedly, murdered by her white foster mother. Certainly it seems that the system didn't care.





 

(0)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 7:06 am
'I don't support vigilantes but I do support justice."

My response is HA!
 

Freya H. (306)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 7:40 am
This is too horrible to read. What kind of monsters tortured children? This is enough to make the cruelest Nazi scumbag sick! What did the Mohawks do to bring this upon themselves? Nothing, except be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 

Jytte Nhanenge (64)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 7:49 am
I am a bit confused about some comments here. However, I just want to say two things

Kenneth: The interviewer did not say that the Queen murdered 10 children. He said that witnesses testify that the children went with the Queen and her husband for an alleged picnic and were never seen again. As I hear it, nobody says that the Queen personally did anything to the children.

Gillian: I may have misunderstood something, however, I understand that the Queen and the Pope are in focus due to their responsibility as the Head of each their Church. I did not hear or read that they are held personally responsible for any abuse. This also is consistent with the mandate of the ITCCS, which is as follows:

1. To bring to trial those persons and institutions responsible for the exploitation, torture and murder of children, past and present, and

2. To stop these and other criminal actions by church and state.

Thank you for posting the sad case of Naomi, Gillian. I have noted, read the information, and signed the petition with great sadness. And I also thank you for the detailed information that you gave us here about the ongoing abuse of indigenous peoples. Similarly thank you to Ian, Richard, and Yvette. Education and information is essential if we should be part of ending some people's domination of other people.
 

Brenda Towers (0)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 7:57 am
I hope the truth comes our about this terrible abuse!
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 8:23 am
Signed, thanks Dandelion
 

(0)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 8:40 am
Currently, the Attawapiskat First Nationpeople are facing a housing crisis within the Province of Ontario which is parallel to, or possibly even worse than global third world country conditions. A state of emergency was declared upon the community on October 18th, 2011. At this time, not one government official, aside from MP Charlie Angus, has visited the community to assess the extent of the disaster.

This community of 2,800 people live in rotting houses, tents, sheds and even a trailer left behind by the De Beers Diamond Mining Company. Many are living without running water or electricity. Due to the harsh weather conditions of this area, people are resorting to using halved 45-gallon drums used as wood stoves a fire hazard ready to welcome a disaster. In addition, due to the lack of running water and the general hazardous conditions of the existent housing, these people have significantly risk to " infectious diseases, scabies, lice, respiratory problems and acute depression. Substance abuse and suicide often follow."

This isn't the first time this community has been disregarded by the government. 12 years ago, the ground the local elementary school stood on was contaminated due to a faulty oil distribution line which fed the school leading to extreme toxic benzene exposure. The school was closed and two sheds were provided to serve as a temporary school. These shacks were set upon the same contaminated ground which the original school stood on. Finally, three years ago, the government demolished the school, but rather than cleaning up the environmental hazard, they left a gaping toxic hole which again exposed the community to benzene toxicity. It became so bad that evacuation was actually considered. I do not know if this did occur. A school has been promised, first in 2007 and again recently, but nothing has yet materialized. Shannen Koostachin, a child from the community brought international attention to the plight of this community and demanded an environmentally safe school and an equitable education for her people. Her struggle has reached the United Nations. Unfortunately, Shannen was killed in an automobile accident last year when away from her community to further her education at the secondary school level.

This community also was evacuated two year ago due to a sewage backup which led to the homelessness of 100 families. The provincial nor the federal government provided funding for this evacuation, leaving them to pay for it themselves. Evacuating from such an isolated region is extremely expensive.

There has been an outpouring of assistance offered by the community. The goverment it is usual failure to respond until there is an international outcry initially promised $500,000 in aid, which is essentially a drop in what is needed to rebuild this community and now has committed an additional $2.5 million which, if it holds true to form, will take its time releasing these funds and make the community jump through hoops before any dime is seen.

This issue is part of a much larger one. It is typical of this goverment to renege on committments, ignore the need, ignore their obligations to the people they consider a negligble population. They further marginalize these people through their complete disrepsect. This is not the only people who the Federal and Provincial goverment fail to serve. This is a national crisis of epidemic proportions.

I have created a webstie to provide people with information on the crisis, how to contact the various public officials and a page for the both Stephen Harper, Prime Minster of Canada, Dalton McGinty, Premier of Ontario and the Federal & Provincial (Ontario) Ministers of Aboriginal Affairs where people from anywhere in the world can comment on their behaviour, lecture them on their responsibilities and essentially shame them into understanding that they represent all Canadians, not just those who fund their election.

The website is www.standupandunite.com;The petion can be found at Demand Action for the Attawapiskat First Nation;Twitter updates can be found at the website and the Twitter account is @standupandunite. I can be contacted through standup@standupandunite.com and you can also access a Stand Up and Unite Facebook page.

Even though there have been many offers of assistance, this is not just limited to this specific cause. The Canadian Federal and Ontario Provincial goverments have to be shamed into providing equitable treatment and legislation to address the issues surrounding the Native people of Canada. The only way this can be done, is through an immense digital war. Please help if you can.

Thanks
 

Bonita Annis (20)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 9:30 am
signed and noted - along with a heavy heart...
 

Mitzi Sandeen (4)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 9:30 am
This so horrifying! I just want to cry, I've heard of these things before but I just stuck my head in the ground and refused to believe that such things were ever done. I am ashamed of myself for doing that. But now I will sign the Petition and I will ask my friends and family to also sign it. I cannot bring the children back but maybe I can help to see that such things NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN!!!!

TY Dandeliion
 

Beth M. (244)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 9:46 am
I had never heard of this before. I am disgusted at what happens in the name of "God".
 

Rosemary G. (80)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 10:39 am
One of the largest genocide ever perpetrated in our miserable human animal history happened on the entire American continent with the duplicity of the Roman Catholic church and Anglican church..Why is not not mentioned in our history books? History is manipulated and always has been by those in Power, so we will never know the TRUE STORY.
 

Rita White (55)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 10:44 am
Noted, thanks
 

Rosemary G. (80)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 10:57 am
Dear Gillian Miller, if it was only chicken pox, but it was actually smallpox which killed off entire tribes.
It is up to us, to disseminate the true facts of history and educate our children about what happened and what is still happening nowadays on the entire continent from Alaska to the Tierra del Fuego.

 

Ge M. (218)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 12:13 pm
Rosemary, the book that I read specifically stated chicken pox so I have to assume that the author had done the research. However, the disease is somewhat irrelevant but the fact that blankets which were impregnated with a disease believed to kill the Native Americans, were handed out to murder them. The first form of biological warfare?

There are many more stories which I have come across which appalled and horrified me. I wish that I could do more than I do here in the UK and, coming up in the winter, will be an opportunity for some of you to help.

For those that are interested and wish to learn more about the abuses, the book that first introduced me to the barbarism of the American government was "Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee" by Dee Brown. Have a large box of tissues ready and something to put between your teeth when you gnash them!
 

Ge M. (218)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 12:21 pm
Jyette, I am fairly sure that the Queen did not go on a party with these children but I'm sure that a letter to the Palace would confirm it.

However, there is no point in attacking the Queen or the Pope personally, that will do nothing and not help anyone. Annett is out for self glorification and not to bring any criminals to justice. If either of these people had been involved in any way then Annett may have a point. If he genuinely wanted justice then that is not the way to go.
 

(0)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 12:45 pm
Considering I have taken action in regard to the Attawapiskat people I actually do get off of my duff and don't spend time making up tales of travelling to Israel (if anyone else is reading, separate thread). If you're going to lie, at least make it believable and consistent.

As for my following you, I didn't find this article through you as I don't spend time looking at what you post on, note, etc. What you post really doesn't interest me as I have made quite clear to you for some time. Considering my initial post on this thread predates you by a day, if anyone is following anyone around it would be you.

My attention was brought to this as I have heard Kevin Annett speak. This is one of the things that "unis" provide, speakers on social justice issues. You probably aren't aware of that because at yours, you were probably milking cows. I have seen you though follow me around on Care2, and recently posted an identical post (actually an article) on every single article I had posted. As usual, you plagiarized someone else's work by failing to cite or source the information you cribbed off of a website

Do anyone, aside from Gillian, I do apologize for this by taking away from the importance of this issue. I am just a little tired of Gillian's crap, am only human and generally respnod in kind to what is thrown at me on each and every site by Gillian. Her motto must be based on "why defend an article, when I can crap talk everyone else and refuse to address the poor quality of the articles I post". That's our Gillian.
 

Terrie Williams (774)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 1:23 pm
# 171 Signed, noted and posted to FB. I have no words to express my sorrow or revulsion.

 

monka blank (82)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 2:46 pm
Signed. I've got no words for this tragedy.
 

Glenda J. (158)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 3:12 pm
Thank you Sister Sheryl for you have once again helped open the minds of others in the happenings regarding our
related Sister & Brothers connections that have been torn since the beginning of time ~ how utterly sad we witness such unnecessary passing of our children and to think of it's dramatic karma connection within a Universe As the children that have moved onto higher grounds and now they Dance to the beat of their drummers within each of their Souls..
 

Rita De Vos (87)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 4:20 pm
How shocking!!! It saddens me deeply :( :( :( It's almost unbelievable but even more incomprehensible that Catholic people were capable to do such things!
It's really good to bring the truth out! Thank you for sharing this in here with us Dandelion!
 

Eternal Gardener (743)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 4:31 pm
Signed related petitions, if only there would be acknowledgement of the past so we can change the future for the better of all life!
 

Bonnie B. (103)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 4:55 pm
Petition signed. This should certainly be investigated. Wouldn't it be a wonder if some indigenous people got some justice for a change. I am beginning to think that the "humanity" in humans is the exception rather than the rule...wishful thinking on our part. If we knew all the crimes committed by the ruling bodies of our world, we would never stop weeping.
 

Dave C. (216)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 5:48 pm
how sad......
 

greenplanet e. (157)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 8:38 pm
There have been many atrocities against First Nations peoples.

It's hard to believe 10 children could have gone on a picnic with 2 strangers without helpers.
 

Kit B. (276)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 9:17 pm

"Witnesses saw and have testified that Queen Elizabeth and her husband in October 1964 took 10 aboriginal children for an alleged pick-nick. The children were never seen again."

Wow! The Queen of England ate some children! Really? Lesson to be learned never go on a picnic with a Queen.

 

Quanta Kiran (65)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 9:23 pm
very sad.
 

(0)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 9:58 pm
Kit, didn't I see you out and about on the town with your friend AC?
 

Rosemary Rannes (634)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 10:28 pm
Dandelion the cries of these innocent children have not been silenced... we hear with broken hearts their torment and suffering! Justice must prevail !
I signed the petition and posted it on Twitter. Many Many more signatures are needed so I will continue to forward the petition.
Most have offered heartfelt sincere comments with additional links which I appreciate.
First Nations children taken from their families and communities and forced into residential schools were abused miserably. To this day their psychological suffering impacts their daily lives. Law suits have been won and Prime Minister Harper has 'officially' apologized. Is this Justice enough? What will be the Justice for the little ones from the Mohawk Nation? If we persevere ... who knows?
Trial against humanity- I agree with Jytte and others - yes in an International Court there should be Justice!
Prayers rising for human beings to find their humanity ... my words are lost in sadness...
 

Parvez Zuberi (7)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 11:14 pm
Unimaginable in this time and age simply horrible and disgusting the people involved who ever it maybe should not go unpunished even if it is Queen Elizabeth II
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (275)
Monday November 28, 2011, 2:42 am
it MAKES ME SICK!!
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Monday November 28, 2011, 4:19 am
Jytte: "Kenneth: The interviewer did not say that the Queen murdered 10 children. He said that witnesses testify that the children went with the Queen and her husband for an alleged picnic and were never seen again. As I hear it, nobody says that the Queen personally did anything to the children."
The TITLE of the story from the link provided at the top of this page says "Mass Genocide of Mohawk Children By UK Queen...Uncovered in Canada"
."Rev. Kevin Annett sets out the prima facie evidence for Queen Elizabeth's and Prince Philip's personal involvement in the disappearance and presumed murder of these 10 Aboriginal children abducted by them from a residential school in Kamloops, BC in the period Oct. 5 - 13, 1964 "

"...eyewitness William Coombes, who in October 1964 witnessed Elizabeth Windsor, as Head of State of Canada and Head of the Church of England, visit an aboriginal school in Kamloops, British Columbia, choose 10 young aboriginal children, made them kiss her feet, and allegedly took them from the school for a picnic at a lake".

The first thing wrong is that there are innuendos and accusations thrown out all over the place by this reporter of this Examiner story, and are put forward as statements of truth and fact. (Mr. Webre, the reporter, also is the author of several other 'factual' Examiner stories regarding the Reptilian alien race wars in the galactic confederacy currently ongoing on planet earth:
http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/et-council-war-with-grey-draco-reptilian-ets-is-won-no-false-flag-et-invasion

Unless someone can prove otherwise, Queen Elizabeth was NOT in Kamloops, BC in Oct. 1964:
http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/exhibits/jubilee/chronvisit.htm
http://www.pch.gc.ca/eng/1287081369719/1786-1951-eng.cfm

An 'eyewitness' nor someone giving 'sworn testimony' are not necessarily proof of anything or even the truth. There is such a thing as reliable or credible witness, reliable or credible testimony. Been like that for THOUSANDS of years. There can be all sorts of reasons why an 'eyewitness' or 'sworn testimony' is false---personal motive, fear, hate, revenge, not sound in mind, etc. Anybody knows this.

None of that matters of course if someone wants to be judge, jury, and executioner in one easy fell swoop, or simply have to make accusations and they become convictions.

From everything I've read, Rev. Annett HIMSELF is still WAITING for forensic 'evidence' (but of course bones themselves do not identify a circumstance of murder necessarily, nor who was the murderer, nor what actually happened even).

Anyone is free to think and believe anything they want to think or believe. By themselves that is, But it's a different ballgame when those ideas or beliefs include other people. Then you have to take responsibility for what you think or believe and say. In some cases you have to actually prove it.



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Kenneth L. (314)
Monday November 28, 2011, 6:31 am
Regarding Rev. Kevin Annett:
http://www.bc.united-church.ca/content/KA-july-16-2000

"We know of no First Nation who endorses the work, style and/or comments of Mr. Annett. In fact some, like the Circle of Justice group with whom Mr. Annett worked closely for a number of months, have taken pains to distance themselves from Mr. Annett.

In a public statement they say to Mr. Annett:

That you have repeatedly in print and word spread unproven gossip, conversations given in confidence for reasons of security, information, sources of information and ongoing investigations that could compromise and has compromised First Nations activists and certain struggles and activities;

That you have repeatedly in print and in word, slandered and libeled, without evidence, trusted and dedicated First Nations activists (who dared to disagree with you or pose some penetrating and tough questions) with summarily-declared labels like"RCMP agents" or "The Eyes and Ears of the RCMP" or "Government-paid stooges" and with no regard to the damages done to them personally or to the struggles of which they have been trusted and effective instruments; and

That you have summarily and for purposes of self-promotion, assigned to yourself and used in print and in word non-existent titles like "Advisor", Chief Researcher" (we have not seen even one piece of your research), "Chief Expert Witness to the Vancouver Tribunal" and others that were neither authorized nor voted on and ratified by the Circle of Justice."


From NativeWeb.org:

http://sisis.nativeweb.org/resschool/sep2898coj.html

 

Dandelion G. (380)
Monday November 28, 2011, 6:39 am
I understand, that for some, accusations towards the Crown or at the Head of the Church is a difficult one. This story was put on as it is but it deserves to be told, as having personally known many people, that have background of native heritage, there are too many similar stories that come out of Boarding Schools of both the USA and Canada.

We must ask these questions, what is presented must be looked at and reviewed, and it disturbs me that the 10 aboriginal children were never seen again. Mr. Coombes, who was to give evidence at the Tribunal for Crimes of Church and States of Elizabeth Windsorís child genocide, was murdered in February 2011.

Just like so many times when fingers point to high places there suddenly becomes missing documents, or the people involved end up dead or missing. If the hands are clean then there should be openess and a willingness to come forward. I do not know if the Queen or the Head of the Church had direct involvement in any of this, but I do know that too many Heads of State know of transgressions going on and do nothing to stop it, that is evidenced from the past to current day.

How many children were victimized by the various Priests that are now coming forward and proof is indeed being presented, but for many years all was kept quiet and the Priest was simply moved to another location to do his sexual transgressions upon other children. The documentation of abuse upon First Nations and the USA Indian population is extensive in many areas and well before Rev. Annett was known to me or this story I had heard of these children being buried in unmarked graves at these Boarding Schools. And Pam Burton I couldn't agree with you more.

I certainly agree that no one should be held accountable for what they did not do, and we can't get hung up on who was where at what time on the picnic of 10 children when there is an uncovering of graves. That is there, that is indeed something that needs to be investigated and if it ties in the 10 children to others then it does. Perhaps there were other high officials that took the children and the names were mistaken but if that is an error of mistaken identity it does not mean that something has not taken place or that other autrocities from other people in charge of these children didn't take place. I place this on here to open doors and windows, if a few need to be shut so be it, but as the saying goes, where there is smoke there is fire.

I left this on another thread, it fits as well here, so rather than typing it out again I've copied and placed it here.

I sat with my new friend at her kitchen table, we were drawn together by our heritage, we both had native blood that ran through our veins, but both our stories were unique from the other. She had been raised on the Pine Ridge Rez, her Father Lakota, her Mother Cherokee/German.

I on the other hand had 2 Abenaki Grandmothers one raised in the white world, my materal Grandmother whose beginnings were with parents who refused to mix in and so had remained in the marshes living off the shore birds, small wild animals, fish, and wild berries in the woods.

My maternal Grandmother said life was good until the white people caught wind of her being a child out there on the marshes and felt her soul needed saving and she needed an education, what followed was a harsh Cinderella story infused with white men taking their sexual advances upon her, telling her that was all a "no good injun" was for.

So my new friend and I had our stories of legacy, that is all too common for those of us with native heritage. It is something that still few fully understand and comprehend, I can tell that by the comments that are left many times on the native articles. A part of me doesn't want them to understand, for to fully understand they would of also had this legacy passed to them of pain.

You can't inflict genocide upon a people and expect the few who remain alive and have their children not to still suffer from the past and still current situations. It isn't as some say, "get over it, move on, that was in the past, for those of us alive today still feel the past in our todays. They fail to realize that not one person escaped this pain inflicted upon a whole people generation after generation and is ongoing in other ways.

A whole people that watched loved ones murdered, lives stolen, told they were shameful, savage, their ability to raise their children in kind and loving ways is impaired because they had not a time in their lives that was kind and loving. When you destroy a people you destroy a people, and so with the broken pieces and bruised hearts they try their best to move forward.

Some Indians remaining on the Reservation and some wandering off and trying to live among the general population, even marrying in as my two Grandmothers did, but still they carry this legacy.....and this pain is passed along in some way. Harsh memories, lack of parenting skills, parents who were alcoholic to numb this pain, parents who were told so often they were nothing, savage, that how can they develop a good self-esteem, so how do they pass off good self-esteem to their children if they don't know what that is?

So I sat at the kitchen table and listened to this older woman tell me of her Boarding School days. How at the age of 8 a little girl of the same age had said she was sick and the adults that ran the school wouldn't get her any medical attention. So that night my new friend, who was age 8 at the time, stayed with the little girl who lay on her bed with one blanket, holding her hand and singing quietly, so as not to be caught, songs in their native language, to give the girl some comfort.

In the morning, the little girl was wrapped in the blanket and carried outside as my friend watched from the window. The girl was placed in a hole and covered over, her parents never called, no one there to cry for her, except my friend who was watching from the window. No marker was placed to let anyone know that this little girl was now buried there. (Unmarked mass graves are now being found and unearthed with new technologies and memories of adults coming forward.) An adult came up to my friend and told her in a harsh voice to get away from the window, she had chores to do and school work, so get!

No child should have to have that as their school memory......and this woman is alive today, I'm alive today, so when people say, "hey, get over it, move on, what is the big deal, that was then this is now" I just think to myself.......how little they know.....how little they understand. What they fail to see is how far the people have moved on despite what has happened, it is amazing any are alive and functioning as well as they are today

I thank the many who showed great compassion in their hearts, it means a lot. All many of the People want is the Truth to be known, whatever that Truth may be, for a Healing to begin and for the Nations of People to learn from that. When a history isn't learned with it's warts and all, then it is too easy to repeat this process, be it on Indians again or as Pam stated to your children no matter what your heritage is.
 

marie c. (168)
Monday November 28, 2011, 7:03 am
Interesting Kenneth I think Gillian was right about him also in my opinion he does causes more harm than good by being associated . I certainly will steer clear off him
 

Mariette AWAY (151)
Monday November 28, 2011, 12:29 pm
Thanks Sheryl for sharing this with the world! I am really saddened by this and can't believe that something so horrific is even possible!
 

Ian MacLeod (79)
Monday November 28, 2011, 1:58 pm
"What kind of monsters tortured children?"

"Good Christians" trying to force children to be their idea of Christians.

Ian
 

Dandelion G. (380)
Monday November 28, 2011, 3:09 pm
There is more than meets the eye, as the powers to be pit Indians against Indians to either get what they want or to help cover up. If Rev. Kevin Annet is getting to close to exposing things that some want to remain buried or hidden, then those powers will go after him.

As with the Navajo's when the Peabody Mine Company wanted in, there had to be so many of the Tribe to sign on a paper to allow this. Why would the Navajo want their lands destroyed, well some Navajo will now who have strayed from traditions, now inticed by the money. They had Grandsons of the Elders go around to talk to the Elders, tell them what a good thing it would be for this or that, then got them to sign a paper they were not able to even read. These Elders TRUSTED their younger members of the Tribe that they were being honest with them, unfortunately learning afterwards they were lied to by their own people.

If some mistakes were made by Rev. Arnnet then these will be exposed and being exposed, however, his quest to right wrongs, to go after those who harmed children and are still harming should not be in doubt. If he is trying to say write a book but he saves childrens lives in the process, I say, so be it. Too many dismiss too quickly and in the meantime children are being injured, hurt, while others turn their backs. Thank goodness we have people like Rev. Arnnet who do not turn their back but instead stick their neck out.

The bottom line is children were neglected at the very least to their deaths. I do believe some were willfully killed. But no school should have so many bodies of children buried and this needs to be exposed and those who are responsible need to be held accountable. That is why there are Courts to work out the final details of things so to just dismiss Rev. Arnnet so quickly could be to do so at the expense of children being protected.
 

Caroline Vimla (16)
Monday November 28, 2011, 6:51 pm
Truly horrifying and sad. Which part of the Bible did Christ preach about killing innocent lives? Both the Church of England and Vatican must take responsibility and admit what they did.
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 8:44 am
Dandelion states: "Mr. Coombes, who was to give evidence at the Tribunal for Crimes of Church and States of Elizabeth Windsorís child genocide, was murdered in February 2011"
What proof do you have of this Dandelion? This isn't a light statement to make. You can't just throw out statements like that without proof. It's irresponsible. So what's the proof?

Hopefully the 'proof' isn't this-----". According to Rev. Annettís recitation of the forensic evidence, it appears that William Coombes was assassinated on February 26, 2011 in St. Paulís Hospital, Vancouver, BC, by a criminal conspiracy acting on behalf of Elizabeth Windsor and the Vatican to prevent William Coombe's testimony at the October 2011 Session of the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State"

This from your story in the 'Examiner.com' website where the same reporter also does other 'factual' stories such as the "Reptilian alien race wars currently on planet earth". This is supermarket tabloid journalism. This 'proof' is also only 'according to' ONE PERSON, Rev. Annett no less, and it even actually says 'IT APPEARS....". Not even proven.

As for Rev. Annett? Here's some links regarding him. There are many negative things regarding Annett, and from native people.

http://sisis.nativeweb.org/resschool/sep2898coj.html

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1231.0

Where injustice has occurred it should be righted. Beyond that simple truth there's a LOT that can be stirred into the stew pot. There's such a thing as unsubstantiated rumors, unproven allegations, accusations thrown out as truth, lynchmob mentality, conspiracy theory, kangaroo courts, etc.
Where these occur they should also be righted don't you think?

I view children as belonging to the human family, before I view them as divided into all the various categories such as native, non-native, black, white, Christian, Jew, you name it.
Nobody has a monopoly on suffering or injustice on this planet.








 

Daniel Partlow (189)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 10:10 am
This is so shocking and appaling! What has been done ( and apparently is still being done) to the American Indians is a real crime. We are all god's children , but some of us are also the children of the devil!
 

marie c. (168)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 4:41 pm
Have been reading about this Rev Annett he is such a crazy dangerous man all the conspiracy theories there are too many horrific truths we do not need a nut case interfering and making up stories I feel this man can do more harm than good. I have read that he is a bit of a joke in America and no one takes him seriously better he finds some trivia to rant about there is much too much truth out there about the suffering and atrocities of Native Americans we do not need him trying to make things worse they are evil enough and he calls himself a man of GOD
 

marie c. (168)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 4:50 pm
Wanted to say thank you to Kenneth . Good to hear some of the native Americans can see through him I guess they have experienced a lot of lies and rubbish in their time and have the experience to see through the imposters. The awful truth is children all over the world are suffering one way or another now what have we learned
 

marie c. (168)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 4:52 pm
Can not currently send a green star to Kenneth as you have done so within the last week
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 6:45 am
You're right Marie, there is a ton of stuff about him here:
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1231.0

This provides a BALANCE in viewing him, especially since he's THE source of this particular story.

When it comes to someone saying something is 'the truth', I get real interested. Nothing is true just because someone tells you it's true, necessarily. I don't care who it is. A lot of the time it's just ONE viewpoint. Each person has to inspect everything for themselves and decide about it for themselves. Otherwise you have sheeple.

 

Dandelion G. (380)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 9:09 am
Well fine to the naysayers. It's ONLY Indian children after all. This is in fact about the graves of Mohawk children that seem to be lost in your personal dislike of Rev. Kenin Annet. Why don't we just forget about it, so more Indian children can be murdered, exterminated, and eliminated.

Good day to you all......hope you are happy now and can move along to some other story.
 

marie c. (168)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 4:44 pm
Well you can be sure Annett could quite easily jump on to some other sensationalism Please never forget that it is not only Native American children who are murdered exterminated and eliminated. I am always shocked how Rwandans have been ignored and so many atrocities are going on there even today. The world is a dreadful mess and innocent adults children and animals are suffering everywhere
 

Kit B. (276)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 7:04 pm

I have no problem believing that a government or institutions (Churches) knowingly allows harm to aboriginal people. That has been happening for centuries and as Margaret described in some detail the living conditions are beyond horrible. The same is true for far too many reservations in America. In this country we have a Federal bureaucracy that is meant to be of assistance to the reservations, I think it is little more then a bureaucracy. Otherwise there would be no lack of housing, education, food, jobs or some heat and blankets to get through the winter months.

I do however, question this man - his background is sketchy at best.
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Thursday December 1, 2011, 6:46 am
Dandelion, you ignore/don't address that Coombes testimony is false (unless someone can prove otherwise), then you go on to say he was murdered and you ignore supplying any proof of that statement, and you brush off anything negative about Rev. Annett, even said by other native people...
Then you say: 'It's ONLY Indian children after all' That's kind of a reverse racial bias. In other words, anyone who isn't native and says anything contrary to them automatically is racist. If that's what you think, then the truth is skewered right away.
 

Marc D. (0)
Wednesday December 7, 2011, 11:01 am
Just to report !!I called CBC news tip desk and shamed them for not covering this important story, please do the same its time that we make the media work for the People.
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Tuesday December 13, 2011, 12:46 am
Mr. B---wow, a real live hardcore racist and fanatic to boot. If you think anyone has to kowtow to any first nations person just because they're first nations you're mistaken. You don't speak for other natives. You don't know 'all about it' any more than any other native. How do I know this? Because I know a bit about human beings and you're a human being.
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Tuesday December 13, 2011, 12:57 am
As for the 'spirit world', you have no monopoly on the spirit world. Io no way, shape, or form. Get it?
 

Nancy C. (797)
Saturday January 14, 2012, 7:08 am
Thank you Sheryl, and for your personal stories at the kitchen table. We should all spend our time in exposing the crimes and less time arguing with each other! I'm listening to all tapes. Poor sweet, innocent and helpless children.
On the topic of crime..."For the past eight years, North Carolina lawmakers have been working to find a way to compensate those involuntarily sterilized in the state between 1929 and 1974. During that time period, 7,600 people were sterilized in North Carolina. Of those who were sterilized, 85 percent of the victims were female and 40 percent were non-white."
 

Dandelion G. (380)
Saturday January 14, 2012, 7:30 am
Thank you Nancy for taking the time to read what I wrote. I can only but say, when we do not understand our history and what has taken place it opens the door to have similar happen all over again, to another group of people.

As you mentioned about what occured in NC, I can only say, if people had truly learned of their history, had a true understanding of it, would they have stood back and allowed more victimization. Is too easy to say, I am not an Indian so I'm ok, but if you are a woman in this Country it matters not if you are Indian or not, we are at the mercy of the rulers of the land so to speak, most of them are men, be they in politicial office, heads of the local departments in the communities, most men hold top positions in the private work force, and even heads of churches. It shows in 85 percent were "female" and those of non white heritage are also at the mercy of a European Dominent Culture.

So it matters......it matters a lot that we start understanding our past, no matter what that past was. Even in our economic system, we failed to recall the "bucket shops" that brought about the 1907 crash, which we are now experienced again with the hedge fund managers and their gambling scams with money not their own, we all have paid the price for their recklessness, the Guilded Age of the 1920's has now come about as the gap between the rich and poor is the widest it has ever been in history.

I've always felt that along with the learning of writing, reading, and math, that history was equally important, yet history classes are the first to be cut out in hard economic times, and even in the best of times, history is taught so poorly that the children do not know how to apply it to their today's, it is just a bunch of facts to be remembered to pass a test and then move forward to the next chapter, without absorbing how any of it does apply to our today. We do a great diservice to each generation who by the time they learn of these things it is too late, once more, the dastardly deeds are done. We, as a society, need to do better.......
 

marie c. (168)
Saturday January 14, 2012, 4:57 pm
Dear Nancy I am surprised that 60% were white we do not hear very much about those do we thank you I do believe we have to look backwards to be able to move forward but not good to ponder too long. I appreciate your words they are very wise
 

Nancy C. (797)
Sunday January 15, 2012, 10:31 am
We certainly need multitudinous folks in prominent positions who truly believe in transparency and moving forward, "The Golden Rule". The past sorely needs to be documented and in the hands of students including adults. The present, sadly, screams for a rendering of "Today...What Can We Fix". Jyette's work in this vain is so important as you mentioned Sheryl. The feminine aspect in life, political, and world decisions.
Our task of planting the seeds of wonder must continue with a renewed sense of spirit toward the future as we learn from the horrors but also the felicitations of the past. I don't want to consider the human race as a rejected group from higher consciousness. (sp correctly!!!) But in these days of transmitting info in nano seconds, and realizing the atrocities that riddle our earth, it's a tough call.
However, on the thought of sending ideas and feelings, the new technologies just may be a step toward sharing the very thoughts we're thinking. Thoughts are things is a philosophy from Seth and many thinkers. They shape energy and therefore eventually, matter. Just how we utilize any energy will be intrinsic to the health of our planet.
Although we do not want results of reversing time or understanding that time is relative to have Butterfly Effect results, if we move toward our utopia, we may unknowingly affect our past sins...
 

Nancy C. (797)
Sunday January 15, 2012, 10:35 am
Sorry for the spelling Jytte...
 

Jytte Nhanenge (64)
Sunday January 15, 2012, 9:31 pm
No problem with the name spelling Nancy, I am so very used to it. Jytte is a Danish name, and the spelling is difficult to make sense of for English and American speaking people. :)

Indeed Nancy, if we should ever hope to end the current global crises of poverty and inequality, violence and war, human rights abuses, and environmental destruction we need to ensure that our inner masculine energies are in a dynamic tension with our inner feminine energies. At the moment we have too much masculine energy, which is promoted and prioritized by the Patriarchal structure, under which we live currently. This energy imbalance manifests as a crisis world. However, when we become aware, we can change it, by adding feminine energy, and then we can return to balance. Balance is a natural state of all living beings, hence also for humans. Balance leads to harmony and harmony will beyond doubt end our current dystopia (a world of hardship and crisis) transforming it into the far preferred utopia (ideal existence). In a harmonious world, nobody would dream of harming children, or any other living being for that matter. Consequently, we do not have to fight each other, instead we have to add care, cooperation, concern, community and compassion to our inner energies and it will manifest as such in our relationships and societies.

The discussion Nancy refers to is here:
http://www.care2.com/news/member/606472831/2775015
 

Dandelion G. (380)
Monday January 16, 2012, 8:39 am
Thank you ladies for your powerful feminine hearts and words, as well as the hotlink Jytte just gave. We can thank you for the marvleous gifts from your studies and work you have given to the world Jytte.
 

Robert O. (12)
Thursday May 24, 2012, 12:28 pm
Thank you Dandelion.
 

Dandelion G. (380)
Friday May 25, 2012, 10:07 am
Thank you Robert for taking the time to look.
 

SuSanne P. (183)
Tuesday October 9, 2012, 2:19 pm
Thank you Dandelion. This may be the most upsetting video I have ever watched. Jytte so eloquently stated she was confused about certain posts, while she addressed them with a kind heart. I will be a bit more blunt, as I am tired of the bullying of one particular person who has disgraced this thread over and over, as well as the "naysayers" to quote your words. I was totally unaware of this atrocity and appreciate you adding this link while reading another similar thread. Unfortunately later is not better than never~ in the case of: SuSanne, this petition is now closed. I appreciate the History, especially through tears that will haunt me for a long time.
 

SuSanne P. (183)
Tuesday October 9, 2012, 2:33 pm
Why does it not surprise me that the first link I TRIED to open had been closed??? Hotlink from Jytte, "Vatican Crimes Revealed"
The first time I read your "Kitchen Table" story it touched my Heart. It touched my Heart even more this time. Thank you for sharing.
 

Dandelion G. (380)
Tuesday October 9, 2012, 7:16 pm
Thank you for taking the time to read and view this. It's only by shedding light to these things can we prevent it from happening again. Besides, the cries of these little children need to be heard. We can't bring them back but we can at least acknowledged they suffered while they lived.
 

Roy C. (0)
Monday December 10, 2012, 6:52 am
Sorry, message posted before I finished. My research has motivated me to do whatever I can to help bring the catholic church and Govt bodies to account. The USA and other western govts are somewhat hypocritical. On 9/11 a significant loss of life occurred from terrorist action and they went to war over it and still hold people in captivity without trial. But it would appear they are OK with over 1,000 mohawk children being murdered and having thousands of children sold for the purpose of medical experiments. If I recall correctly at the end of WW2 a number of Germans were sentenced to death for the medical experiments they carried out.

It is very difficult for any sane person and anyone with a conscience to understand why those children sold into slavery, abused and murdered are not having the perpetrators of the crimes against them held to account.

To end with one other observation of the catholic church. WHY would any female want to be a part of it when the structure and practice of the church is so misogynistic.Not one single women holds any key leadership role in the church. The book Malleus Maleficarum, the witches hammer was specifically written for the instruction of priests to kill females, and a very good job they did too.
 

Dandelion G. (380)
Wednesday May 29, 2013, 2:44 pm
I am placing a comment that was asked to be removed as someone felt it had offended them. To that, I'm sorry that one of the commenters got upset with what Mr. B said, but after the pain of so much injustice sometimes others can not hold it back anymore, in particular when it concerns children, as a Warrior he must protect, even the spirit of those children. However, within the context of the comment was a lot of very important information. So I've removed the offending parts so that the rest of comment can remain. Mr. B's comment is as follows:

This mass grave...is not the only one

I lived and worked as a civel eng tech in a town called Sioux Lookout Ontario. Behind the old Zone Hospital in that town, there is a mass grave site there as well...i have seen it with my own eyes. The native women who found it was run out of town and silenced with death threats.

There is no doubt in my eyes...the white man committed genocide on our people and used religion to do it. Any native person who supports the church in any way, is truly brainwashed at best...a traitor to their peoples, at worst. The lame argument that "it is just a few men and women who do these things and they do not represent the church". To you i say...wake up you brainwashed apples; this is systemic genocide and so your argument, is deluded.

And the RCMP and OPP enforced this genocide on our peoples....so any First Person who serves in the military or police service...well what can i say...deluded and brainwashed. You will never be one of them, and you know it...leave then, and return to your people. As creation continues to move faster, you will soon see the truth of what i say.

"In the spirit world it is, Time to pay your Blood Debts"

As an Ojibway man...i say to child killers and pedophiles...your time here is nearly done, and as the world turns over and creation moves much quicker...you will find yourself going crazy with fear...then the real justice begins.

have you ever lived on a reserve?...he has (Annett).... You know nothing. Those natives who bad mouth him are the apples and brainwashed church goers. They are the same religious fanatics who killed one of their own, after he testified in the Residential School hearings. And, just so you know...most tribes have oral tradition and history...so the proof you want and expect...will never be sufficient for non natives. Save your propaganda we, know the truth of it.

Miiniwanagooshii Benashii - Happy Bird - Ojibway Warrior of the Red Wolf

Again, my apologies to Miiniwanagooshii Benashii for taking liberties on his comment, but most of it is there, which I thought important to be, and only personal reference that was offensive to another was removed. This I do hope will keep this man's words on this thread, for he knows this story to be true, as do I.
 
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