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Obama Trade Deal Worse Than NAFTA


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Trans-Pacific Partnership, TPP, NAFTA, Obama, undermines workers, hurts environment, secret, corporate advisors )

Dandelion
- 819 days ago - act.rootsaction.org
As a candidate, Obama promised to renegotiate NAFTA, the trade deal that has undermined workers and the environment. The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) deal has been negotiated in secret (except for 600 corporate advisors). This is worse than NAFTA.



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Allan Yorkowitz (453)
Thursday June 21, 2012, 3:37 pm
action taken
 

Paula M. (39)
Thursday June 21, 2012, 3:46 pm
It seems that for all of his promises for open government the President prefers to work in secret.
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Thursday June 21, 2012, 4:33 pm
The impetus for NAFTA actually began with President Ronald Reagan, who campaigned on a North American common market.

NAFTA was signed by President George H.W. Bush, Mexican President Salinas, and Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney in 1992.

It was ratified by the legislatures of the three countries in 1993. The U.S. House of Representatives approved it by 234 to 200 on November 17, 1993.

The U.S. Senate approved it by 60 to 38 on November 20, three days later. It was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on December 8, 1993 and entered force January 1, 1994.

Although it was signed by President Bush, it was a priority of President Clinton's.

So we can thank BOTH Parties for giving us this disaster that has come about since NAFTA has been signed in.

No one could of made a more clearer statement than Ross Perot when he said, NAFTA was not a two way street would create a “giant sucking sound” of jobs going south to the cheap labor markets of Mexico.

Perot has been vindicated in his opinion; expanded free trade has not been accompanied by an increase in jobs in the U.S. relative to the vast numbers of jobs created in the rest of the world as NAFTA became just a stepping stone on the pathway to global commerce.

Manufacturing jobs lost each year starting with 1992 are equivalent to the U.S. goods trade deficits over the past 19 years. There has been a cumulative job loss, amounting to almost 29 million jobs by the end of 2010.
Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-02-11/markets/30028586_1_nafta-goods-trade-cumulative-job-loss#ixzz1yTQN7J8s

And now we have TPP that is expected to be worse!

I still don't know how everyone keeps thinking one Party is worse than the other in the USA, they both stink in my humble opinion. But ok, each to their own. I just wish people would realize that neither are being much of a friend to anyone except the Wealthy.

Please consider signing this Petition. Thank you.

 

Dandelion G. (387)
Thursday June 21, 2012, 5:26 pm
It is not really that complicated. If you are a giant U.S. corporation, you can either make stuff here, or you can make stuff overseas where it is far, far less expensive to do so.

To greedy corporate executives, there are a lot of advantages to moving operations out of the country....

*It is legal to pay slave labor wages in many of these other countries. After all, why pay an American worker 10 or 20 times as much as a worker on the other side of the globe?

*In many of these other countries you do not have to provide any health care for workers.

*In many of these other countries there are virtually no environmental controls to worry about.

*In many of these other countries there are virtually no labor standards to worry about.

*In many of these other countries you only have to deal with a fraction of the "red tape" that you have to deal with in the United States.

By merging our economies with the economies of societies that are far different from our own, we have created a "race to the bottom" that is incredibly destructive to the U.S. economy.

In Vietnam, one dollar an hour is considered to be a very good wage.

So how do you plan to compete against that?

Apparently, one of the goals of the TPP is to reduce all trade tariffs among member nations to zero by the year 2015. The proponents of "free trade" are absolutely thrilled.

We are literally destroying the American economy and this TPP agreement is only going to hasten it along.

 

Kit B. (276)
Thursday June 21, 2012, 7:40 pm

Signed
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday June 21, 2012, 9:06 pm
NDAA, TPP
President Obama, where is your integrity?
Signed
 

Jason S. (57)
Thursday June 21, 2012, 9:36 pm
thanks, signed
 

Mary T. (186)
Thursday June 21, 2012, 10:01 pm
Already signed, Thanks Dandelion.
 

Arild Warud (165)
Friday June 22, 2012, 1:49 am
Signed.
 

John Gregoire (255)
Friday June 22, 2012, 3:22 am
Signed and concur. This is but one of the many Obama turn arounds from campaign mode. We deserve better.
 

Ellen G. (338)
Friday June 22, 2012, 6:27 am
signed
 

Nancy C. (798)
Friday June 22, 2012, 9:14 am
And everyone (most) comes to the melting pot to work and make big bucks. We've signed many petitions which have evidently been ignored. I'm going to hope this is an election ploy.
 

Tom Sullivan (99)
Friday June 22, 2012, 9:52 am
It's a wrap
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Friday June 22, 2012, 9:54 am
The Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) is a “free trade” agreement currently under negotiation between NZ and 8 other countries, including the U.S. Negotiations began in March 2010. So if it's an election ploy, it began 2 years ago.
 

Jim Phillips (3209)
Friday June 22, 2012, 10:00 am
Petition signed.

See note above by Dandelion at 5:26 pm regarding cheap labor and not complicated.

Ty, Dandelion.
.
 

Terrie Williams (769)
Friday June 22, 2012, 11:07 am
Signed, noted and shared on FB.
 

Lisa Neste (699)
Friday June 22, 2012, 11:36 am
Signed, thanks!
 

Billie C. (2)
Friday June 22, 2012, 11:42 am
signed. another obama lie coming to the surface. what else is he doing in secret to make sure we become a 3rd world country? i've never seen anybody try to ruin us so fast. he must really hate america. time to go obama.
 

Siti R. (12)
Friday June 22, 2012, 11:59 am
all the best you guys!! so much problems in the US.. coming from Singapore, a tiny island with no natural resources, we would have gone under a long time ago!
 

Roseann D. (178)
Friday June 22, 2012, 12:32 pm
Billie C. have you heard one iota of GOP opposition to this? No. Seems like a golden opportunity for the GOP...far more than that frivolous Holder circus. Could it be...this is one of those items that it doesn't matter who is at the helm...(like NDAA...not a blip of opposition...except from maybe Kucinich.
 

Mary Alexander (23)
Friday June 22, 2012, 12:46 pm
This shows the big problem that both parties are wrong about Free Trade. I signed I do hope it makes a different.
 

Ms Noting Commentator (22)
Friday June 22, 2012, 1:59 pm
I signed. There are so many people age 55 and over are still working while so many of our youth are unemployed or UNDEREMPLOYED!!!
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Friday June 22, 2012, 2:38 pm
The cost to live forces the aged to remain in their jobs longer if they can hang onto them, while the youth can't launch. However, if someone over 50 looses their job, they are having a much harder time regaining another job at twice the struggle. Not all who are let go in their fifties have a back up plan or a spouse to help keep the roof over their heads, they end up out in their cars or in the woods in tents.
 

Russell R. (87)
Friday June 22, 2012, 3:37 pm
Signed > Nike is a great example of this! It just crossed the river to the Mexican side to avoid environmental controls and dumb their crap in the river. also cheaper labor
 

Janet B. (34)
Friday June 22, 2012, 4:53 pm
This whole thing is ridiculous; I am disgusted with both parties. It's like Verizon and ATT, they are the same thing. You want to sell things in America, then you have to build things in America. Good point Dandelion, those of us over 50 are looking at basically working until we drop dead at our desk or our health becomes to bad to work. Exciting choices and our young can't find jobs except those paying $2.13 an hour. Our government is pathetic and not doing anything to help us.
 

John S. (303)
Friday June 22, 2012, 4:55 pm
Signed, but I would also place the blame on the majority of people who demand cheap products.
 

Terri Hughes (412)
Friday June 22, 2012, 5:50 pm
''SIGNED''....thanks Dandelion!
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Friday June 22, 2012, 6:36 pm
John what choice do the people have, one can't find anything made in the USA anymore of quality and with the wage not keeping up over the years because despite record profits the Corporations will not share with the people those profits either by hiring or hiring at living wages. You don't have the money, you can't afford things at higher prices. Besides, the people didn't put the jobs overseas, it was the Corporations that did so they could make more money by being able to hire cheap labor and skirt around labor and environmental laws.

I feel the same as you do Janet R. I'm disgusted by both parties to, that is why I've started to help Rocky Anderson of The Justice Party. He is getting on ballot in more and more States. I'm not sure if it will be enough for this election run, but at least it's a start. I'm tired of supporting the two parties that have destroyed this Country....together.

Both Parties are "bought" and are in the pockets of the Elites, the Oil Barons, Wall St, ALEC, and the others with the Deep Pockets that have bought the Govt they want. Rocky Anderson will not accept more than $100 per individual or Corporation, so he is up against the odds, I know, with their millions and billions, but at least he'll not be bought out. Therefore it is people like you and me who must get the word out. We will not get anywhere with these two parties that are both beholden to the Elites.

To learn more about Rocky Anderson and the Justice Party click on link below.
ROCKY ANDERSON OF JUSTICE PARTY
 

Ken W. Simpson (0)
Friday June 22, 2012, 9:20 pm
Obama has failed to deliver on so many promises - don't hold your breath on this one.
 

Susanne R. (249)
Friday June 22, 2012, 10:08 pm
Signed and noted! Thanks for posting this, Dandelion!
 

Joe R. (189)
Saturday June 23, 2012, 4:45 am
Signed and noted.
 

Robert S. (115)
Saturday June 23, 2012, 7:14 pm
Signed. Unbelievable....no...not really.
 

Lois Jordan (55)
Monday June 25, 2012, 5:46 pm
"Your messages have been sent." Thanks, Dandelion.
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Thursday June 28, 2012, 7:07 am
You could have to pay a big fine for simply clicking on the wrong link.

Right now, a group of 600 industry lobbyist "advisors" and un-elected government trade representatives are scheming behind closed doors1,2 to craft an international agreement called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).

Why the secrecy? We know from leaked documents3 that the TPP includes what amounts to an Internet trap that would:

1.Criminalize4 some of your everyday use of the Internet,
2.Force service providers to collect and hand over your private data without privacy safeguards, and
3.Give media conglomerates more power to fine you for Internet use, remove online content—including entire websites—and even terminate your access to the Internet.
4.The TPP would create a parallel legal system of international tribunals that will undermine national sovereignty and allow conglomerates to sue countries for laws that infringe on their profits.
The TPP's Internet trap is secretive, extreme, and it could criminalize your daily use of the Internet. We deserve to know what will be blocked, what we and our families will be fined for.

If enough of us speak out now, we can force participating governments to come clean. Your signature will send a message to leaders of participating countries. Please sign the petition and share it with everyone you know
PETITION Stop The Internet Trap
 

Dianne Lane (39)
Friday June 29, 2012, 10:43 pm
Thanks Dandelion! signed and noted!
 

Robert H. (41)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 7:00 pm
Actions completed. TY for the opportunity of supporting this matter.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 7:09 pm
already signed, thank you
 

Lynn Squance (232)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 7:14 pm
signed
 

Freya H. (307)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 7:53 pm
I don't believe this! I can't vote for Obama - but I can't vote for Romney either.

VOTE LIBERTARIAN!!!
 

Milkah Savage (277)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 8:07 pm
Thanks for the forward my friend...already signed
 

Edith B. (141)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 8:25 pm
Signed, noted, and shared on Facebook.
 

Daniel Partlow (189)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 8:43 pm
Noted and signed. Sneaky bastards!!
 

SuSanne P. (182)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 8:46 pm
Gladly signed!!!
 

Terry King (109)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 9:45 pm
Done
 

Agnes H. (144)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 9:53 pm
Everything made in the US, or at least by American Companies, is Down Under dandelion. The American Companies have bought so many Australian Companies that it's very hard to find locally made produce. Also our Banks are going abroad, because it's cheaper than here. One of our richest women, Gina Rhinehart, who owns so many Mines, said that she wants employees from Asia because she only has to pay them $3.00 per hour, which is cheaper than the Australian workers. I wasn't surprised to see that Oz is in the Pact. They follow the US everywhere. If this goes through, we'll soon end up like Europe is now, and I don't want that. I'm sure no one does!
 

ellen m. (222)
Friday September 14, 2012, 12:41 am
Signed Sheryl, thanks!
 

Cynthia Davis (340)
Friday September 14, 2012, 4:29 am
Signed TY Dandelion
 

Pat B. (354)
Friday September 14, 2012, 6:03 am
TY, Sheryl, signed.!!!
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Friday September 14, 2012, 6:23 am
Agnes, your Country and New Zealand have stayed in better shape thus far than as you say, the usa and Europe. But once this goes through your Countrymen will sink like a rock just like us, and I know New Zealanders are also putting up a fight against this. They've pulled the wool over our eyes one to many times, this will be an added strain and pain for many of us, another place the 99% will loose at the 1% gain.

I believe it was also that Gina Rhinehart that had inherited BILLIONS while telling the working poor and poor that they are like that because they are lazy drunks. You know, I'm seeing more and more why the peasants of France rose up and then beheaded the rulers in their Country. People can only tolerate so much and take so many insults.
 

Brian M. (145)
Friday September 14, 2012, 9:00 am
noted.signed.
 

tasunka m. (334)
Friday September 14, 2012, 10:25 am
noted
signed the petiton
ty Dandelion
 

Gina Caracci (231)
Friday September 14, 2012, 2:52 pm
S&N..we are truly screwed until people start RAGING
Thx Dandelion

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Lyn Z. (292)
Friday September 14, 2012, 5:44 pm
Noted & Signed
 

Teresa Cowley (274)
Friday September 14, 2012, 10:18 pm
Signed petition--sure wish we had a Presidential candidate other than Romney or Obama--don't really care for either of them!
Thanks Dandelion.
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Friday September 14, 2012, 10:26 pm
Check out this Party Teresa, The Justice Party
Vote Anderson Rodriguez for 2012
 

Carole K. (199)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 2:07 pm
Noted & signed. TY, Dandelion!
 

Lois Jordan (55)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 7:31 pm
Signed & sent. Shared & Noted. Much thanks, Dandelion.
 

Edith B. (141)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 8:18 pm
Noted, signed, and shared.
 
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