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Scientists May Have Cracked The Giant Siberian Crater Mystery -- The News Isn't Good


Environment  (tags: Yamal peninsula, Siberia, Giant Crater, permafrost, methane, Russia )

Dandelion
- 96 days ago - nature.com
A mystery crater spotted in the frozen Yamal peninsula in Siberia last month was probably caused by methane released as permafrost thawed, researchers in Russia say.



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Freya H. (313)
Sunday August 17, 2014, 7:01 pm
Yes - VERY bad news. Methane is a seriously nasty greenhouse gas, far worse than carbon dioxide.

We all need to take measures in order to prepare for the worst.
 

AniMae Chi (428)
Sunday August 17, 2014, 7:49 pm
Que Sera!
 

DaleLovesOttawa O. (192)
Sunday August 17, 2014, 8:00 pm
Interesting article.

I wonder if these are a new phenomena due to global warming that is now taking place despite the denial of some, or if any of this has happened in the past, say, 1000 years before, etc., at differing times during the history of the planet?

 

Shawna S. (44)
Sunday August 17, 2014, 9:41 pm
Interesting. I wonder if they compared Earthquake type activity timelines to this? Many questions.
Thanks Dandelion :")
 

Bob P. (425)
Monday August 18, 2014, 5:52 am
interesting....Thanks Dandelion
 

JL A. (272)
Monday August 18, 2014, 7:05 pm
Some pretty scary stuff when you mess with Mother Nature.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday August 18, 2014, 7:16 pm
Thanks.
 

Lone F. (34)
Monday August 18, 2014, 7:46 pm
Noted! Scary! Thanks Dandelion
 

Dandelion G. (386)
Monday August 18, 2014, 7:55 pm
Yes, is scary and a potential life changer. Science states that if enough of this methane is released it can cause a reaction so great it can poison us all and erase life. All so a few people can have a big mansion today, grow their portfolio, and live like kings........while they doom their own seed, their children's children.
 

Kay m. (37)
Monday August 18, 2014, 8:16 pm
Good Evening - Thank for the article - very interesting and informative. We all need to do our part to cut down and cut out all of these green house gases --- If not -it will be too late --- Sincerely Kay M.
 

Barbara Smit (0)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 12:06 am
If so, It's very bad news.
 

Hent Catalina-Maria (83)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 1:10 am
noted
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 2:54 am
noted thanks
 

John Gregoire (260)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 3:27 am
Very bad news but I'm always wary of anything that attributed info to "scientists". I'd rather they cite an authority.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 4:23 am
This was one of the initial explanations so the article only expounds on one of the theories, which remains as likely / unlikely as the real reason as when initially proposed, and still does not address the issue of why there is vegetation growing close to the edge which indicates that it happen sometime in the past, and therefore cannot be attributed to the "abnormally hot Yamal summers of 2012 and 2013".
 

Frances Darcy (223)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 5:01 am
Very bad news.
 

Nils Anders Lunde (551)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 6:10 am
Noted
 

Donna T. (0)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 7:09 am
thank you
 

Katherine May Williams (0)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 8:55 am
Noted.
 

Lindsay Kemp (1)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 10:26 am
Certainly something to take note of!
 

Volker B. (36)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 11:10 am
Thanks for sharing Dandelion.
I just want to comment on two points.
First on John Gregoire's comment: "Scientists" the way it is used in the article I think does refer to the expert team mentioned in the sentences before or afterwards. I do not know about the russian team but the Wegener Institute as well as the Nature journal itself are at least scientific authorities.
Second on John S.'s comment: Wouldn't methane explode in a way (meaning an upwards pointing explosion) that leaves vegetation at least partly unharmed? (this sounds arguing but it is meant as a real question, I am not an expert on that topic)
 

Arielle S. (316)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 11:16 am
Yikes - sometimes I'm glad I'm old.
 

Demy L. (49)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 11:30 am
interesting article. Thanks.
 

Kenneth Davies (0)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 12:25 pm
bad news indeed
 

Joanne Dixon (40)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 12:38 pm
The vegetation doesn't appear to me to be all that close to the hole compared to the size of the hole. If it were that close to a 1000 meter diameter hole John S might have a point.

I also worry about people's children and grandchildren, Dandelion. Sometimes, though, I think it is the people with the big mansions and huge portfolios living like kings who need to be poisoned and have their life erased. Now. The future generations consequences thing isn't working - they have no imagination and no heart.
 

Muriel Servaege (48)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 12:54 pm
Thank you, Dandelion.
 

Birgit W. (150)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 1:00 pm
Thanks.
 

Lois Jordan (56)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 1:08 pm
Noted. Thanks, Dandelion. Very disturbing info.
 

Mandi T. (430)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 1:13 pm
Methane, not good news.
 

el L. (14)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 1:23 pm
i'd estimate that by now chances that there will be less than additional 2C of "GW" within this centuries are lower than those for Eaaarth going Venus-like in a few hundred years

have a nice end !

 

Stardust Noel (52)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 2:12 pm
Don't ever mess with Mother Nature.
 

Sue L. (66)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 2:26 pm
I was hoping it would turn out to be the work of aliens but, alas, this sounds like a more reasonable explanation.
 

Mary Donnelly (47)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 2:39 pm
Sad.
 

molly brown (5)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 3:01 pm
Sad,signed and share.Scary too.
 

Mariette AWAY (150)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 3:39 pm
Noted, thanks for the info Sheryl. Sounds very scary!
 

pam w. (191)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 4:47 pm
This is the WORST possible news!
 

Jane H. (138)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 5:09 pm
All we need is more methane ( just being sarcastic)
 

Dandelion G. (386)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 5:41 pm
That's the way I see it too Pam.
 

Paulett Simunich (0)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 6:08 pm
I am encouraged,,,,,we know what happened....we can now move forward to finding the solution!!!
 

Dandelion G. (386)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 6:21 pm
We know what is causing the permafrost to melt and the solutions are to move to clean renewable energy. But it is stalled by those who have bought out our Governments to keep things the same and to slow development of a cleaner, greener, and healthier world. However keep up the encouragement, we need all we can get. Be sure to call your Representatives and let them know you want to move into the future with solar and wind for starters.
 

Nelson Baker (0)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 6:31 pm
Noted. Thank you for the article.
 

JOSE HONRADO (0)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 6:42 pm
Noted.
 

Bonnie Lynn M. (1)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 8:19 pm
Thank you
 

S J. (117)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 8:38 pm
noted, thanks Dandelion
 

Gary A L. (136)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 8:49 pm
thanks dandelion as George Carlin once said the earth isn't screwed we are
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 9:47 pm
Noted with Huge Concern ! Just growing so quickly from Bad to Worse Case Scenario !!
 

Rosa Caldwell (403)
Tuesday August 19, 2014, 10:48 pm
Very sorry to hear this. Thanks for sharing.
 

Inge Bjorkman (144)
Wednesday August 20, 2014, 1:07 am
Perhaps this is a way for people to fit into the ecological system, the Earth does not lack people or animals if we disappear.
We humans might recreate the earth as it once was?
Thanks for letting me live and attend this brief period in Earth's long history.

Love
 

Maria Teresa Schollhorn (44)
Wednesday August 20, 2014, 3:44 am
Noted. No good news.
Thanks Dandelion.
 

Jana Repova (63)
Wednesday August 20, 2014, 4:02 am
Noted. Thanks.
 

Dandelion G. (386)
Wednesday August 20, 2014, 5:05 am
George Carlin was a smart man and gratitude isn't being shown enough in this world, thank you for providing some to this thread Inge.
 

Winn Adams (199)
Wednesday August 20, 2014, 6:26 am
Thanks
 

Rehana VN (0)
Wednesday August 20, 2014, 7:51 am
More bad news & lots of unanswered questions.
 

Brian M. (202)
Wednesday August 20, 2014, 8:02 am
The severity of this release will need to be confirmed with GHG emissions measurements over the course of the next few years. If massive amounts of methane are, in fact, escaping at this time, then we can reasonably expect GHG emissions to soar up to and past 500 ppm. Even if this isn't happening at this particular time, these craters are indicative of a thawing permafrost...which will lead to a massive methane release soon. This a massive tipping point and it is the essentially the final tipping point, because once it is reached, there will be no going back. #ClimateChange #Adaptation or #HumanExtinction
 

DORIS L. (61)
Wednesday August 20, 2014, 9:47 am
Ye Gads!
 

Evanola Davis (75)
Wednesday August 20, 2014, 9:48 am
This is bad.....thank you!
 

Betty Kelly (4)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 10:43 pm
This is scary because the Big Brains and Scientists disagree.
 

Dandelion G. (386)
Sunday August 31, 2014, 5:46 am
Well it's a misnomer that the Scientists disagree, 96% agree that this is happening, what the casual reason that is behind it. I don't put a lot of stock into the 4% who do not agree. Just like when we are looking into treatments, if it had a 96% effective rate then it tends to outweigh the 4%.

Those in the 4% tend to be hired by those with "special interests" who want to keep things going the way it is, despite negative findings by the other 96% as it tends to be in "their" best interest not necessary in our planets best interest or our own. Unfortunately those who have been elected to lead, that should be the "big brains" in moving our Countries in the best ways, are not doing so as they are beholden via Big Money to dance the tune of those who have these "special interests" to keep it this way.......even if it means the destruction of our way of life....or even life itself.
 

Elizabeth M. (67)
Tuesday September 9, 2014, 6:38 pm
Noted. This is really bad news!! If only we had leaders who are not owned by Big Oil & Gas. I pray that it is not too late. Our election is coming up in 2015, and a big percentage of Canadians want a Prime Minister that cares about the Environment and the People. And we are not interested in becoming a leading World Oil Producer as he would like to see. (too bad we couldn't get David Suzuki to run).
 

Dandelion G. (386)
Tuesday September 9, 2014, 7:54 pm
If David Suzuki ran I'd move to Nova Scotia again just to vote for him.
 
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