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Estimates of Sea Level Rise By 2100 Have Tripled in the Past Few Years


Environment  (tags: Peter Sinclair, science, Miami, sea level rise, sea ice, climate change, Trump Administration, Paris Agreement )

Dandelion
- 172 days ago - youtube.com
Environmental activist Peter Sinclair examines the growing threat of sea level rise. Very sobering information.



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Freya H (361)
Monday June 26, 2017, 4:36 pm
Even if this worst-case scenario does not come to pass, global warming is still going to be a b---h. Climate refugees, emerging diseases, changing weather patterns, more fires and floods, worse hurricanes and tornadoes, crop failures, famine - hang on and hope that you survive the ride.
 

Darren W (218)
Monday June 26, 2017, 11:56 pm
I don't see this improving in any shape or form without a seismic change in attitude.
 

Dawnie W (250)
Tuesday June 27, 2017, 12:31 am
💙💜Noted... 💙💜Thank you...💙💜

😉💜ღ 💙Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ😺💜L💙ve, Hugs and Peace go with you all💜😺Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ ღ💙😉
 

Arild Gone for now (174)
Tuesday June 27, 2017, 3:07 am
I want to see the projections after Agent Orange time in office,doesn't look good for Wall Street or Mar a Lago.
 

Dandelion G (367)
Tuesday June 27, 2017, 4:27 am
I guess when millions upon millions are swimming with the fishes perhaps there will be a change in attitude. I don't think the $$ signs in front of their eyes will allow them to see anything. As for Mar a Lago and Wall St I think both places will just be wrote off, the multi-billionaires will find some mansion to hold up into. They will have to realize as our space becomes smaller so too does theirs.
 

Animae C (512)
Tuesday June 27, 2017, 6:31 am
Thanx Dande
 

Ed Site Issues V (196)
Tuesday June 27, 2017, 10:02 am
Noted, Thanks
 

Barb SiteIssues V (199)
Tuesday June 27, 2017, 11:30 am
Noted, Thank you
 

Winn Adams (177)
Tuesday June 27, 2017, 11:31 am
:-( Just disgusting what we are doing to our planet.
 

Angelflowers D (84)
Wednesday June 28, 2017, 4:28 am


onefodderunit2 days ago
I don't believe a word from NASA or any government scientists. Go down to a harbor and look at the pilings under the piers.
You will find that the tideline is the same as it was decades ago. We have to be the scientists in this system of exploitation.
Reply 16
 

Evelyn B (62)
Wednesday June 28, 2017, 7:19 am
I doubt that 1-2 cm variation in average would be visible to the naked eye of anyone (especially a sceptic) since high tides contribute to the marks left ... and the larger estimates concern the future, not what has already been observed. But go ahead and ignore all warnings - it will probably be your grave that feels the effect in 20-50 years time, not you. You can afford to be dismissive, continue to live a lifestyle that is very probably harmful to our planet ... you won't be paying the full price!.

Not so those born these years.

A question:
What do any of us LOSE by taking much more care of our planet?
OK - some will lose economically, because they gain from industries that depend (by choice) on fuel and mechanisms that emit greenhouse gases ... including, incidentally, the intensive dairy industry, since cows contribute!!

But we do have choice. California, for example, is already demonstrating that we don't HAVE to lose economically by choosing climate-friendly strategies.

So - suppose all those scientists have got it wrong, & climate warming ISN'T such a risk ... what will we have lost by making efforts towards greener and more sustainable development?
Not much ... a beautiful environment, lifestyles in greater harmony with nature - which still provide more than adequate livelihoods ...

What do we lose if we opt NOT to make environmentally-friendly choices, continue as we are, non-renewable energy choices etc etc?
We have to increase ugly fossil fuel extraction (because more easily extracted fuels are exhausted), increasing risks of subterranean disruption, contaminating water (essential for life), and we do nothing to reduce development that contaminates our air, destroys insects (especially bees) that are essential to ecosystems, eliminates flora & fauna species that are at present part of the global natural heritage.

NOW - if the scientists are RIGHT -
If our choices are environmentally friendly, our descendants will have evolved sustainable means of survival.
If our choices are NOT environmentally-friendly, we'll have contributed to life on a human-unfriendly planet.

I reckon that EVEN if the scientists are wrong in their projections, we STILL have much more to gain (as a species) by adopting the environmentally-friendly approach arising from discussion of global warming ...
 

Dandelion G (367)
Wednesday June 28, 2017, 8:42 am
@ Angelflowers - Peter Sinclair isn't a Scientist, he has done exactly as you stated. He has gone all over the world filming and documenting what the Scientist have been stating. It has proven to him that from his own observations there is truth to what these Scientist say.

Now I'm not sure what pier you look under but I know the pier not to far here has had to be shortened due to increased hurricane action and sea level rise. I lived on a barrier island and watched many a home go into the ocean due to sea level rise. There are island Nations that are asking other Countries to take them in as their island Nation most likely will not exist in a generation or two. Miami is having to elevate streets and put in a multi-million dollar pumping system, a luxury for them to "buy time" but those in poorer Nations as in low lying Bangladesh can not afford.

@ Evelyn Exactly what do we have to lose. What we are trying to do is move towards a cleaner and more healthy future. For every job lost in the fossil fuel industry there are jobs created in wind, solar, and other forms of green jobs. You know if we didn't listen to the scientists of the past we'd still most likely be blood letting and chapping off limbs left and right to save the patient from infections. I think it is wise to listen to those who study science in particular as 97% of them, from various backgrounds, from all corners of the planet are in agreement to global warming, changes and disruption.
 

Darren W (218)
Wednesday June 28, 2017, 3:58 pm
Angelflowers D . . . . so NO erratic weather patterns where you reside. . . .

No floods, no dry barren periods. . . . no erratic fluctuations in the natural ecosystems, such as early blooms.
 

Naomi Dreyer (46)
Wednesday June 28, 2017, 4:27 pm
Oh, oh, oh
 

Lucy S (47)
Wednesday June 28, 2017, 5:02 pm
Noted! Thanks for the post. Have shared widely
 

MmAway M (500)
Wednesday June 28, 2017, 6:52 pm
Noted with extreme sorrow at what this generation is gifting to children.
Nothing. No parks, No Animals, No NO NO NON NO
Sorry. Noted ty Sheryl
 

raleigh k (375)
Wednesday June 28, 2017, 9:59 pm
noted shared - this is such a sad and hopeless situation. There has to be something all of us could do, if all work together! ty
 

Sylvie A (192)
Thursday June 29, 2017, 4:13 am
Noted & shared.
Thank you
 

Donna T (0)
Thursday June 29, 2017, 7:06 am
thank you
 

David C (182)
Thursday June 29, 2017, 7:47 am
not good, and it seems everyone world-wide except the GOP in the US is willing to make the appropriate changes to try and improve the earth's environmental health........keep standing strong, standing together, resisting the GOP insanity, and remember the people will lead and change and hopefully politicians, politics, and business will follow......otherwise sadly the world our children and grandchildren will inhabit will be dangerous in so many ways.
 

Lindsay K (6)
Thursday June 29, 2017, 12:07 pm
Thanks for sharing. Very scary!
 

Tom T (246)
Thursday June 29, 2017, 12:39 pm
SCARY STUFF !
 

Tom T (246)
Thursday June 29, 2017, 1:19 pm
S & N Thanks for sharing .....
 

Tom T (246)
Thursday June 29, 2017, 1:19 pm
TRULY SCARY STUFF !
 

Vanessa S (43)
Thursday June 29, 2017, 3:39 pm
Watched and noted. Thank you for sharing. It is unbelievable at what a fast rate we are watching our planet die at our own hands, but yet our government and so many people do not care. Very scary. After watching this video, I definitely want to step up my and my family's effort to make a difference. I feel that I will revisit this video often due to refresh my memory on the facts and statistics provided, and for a reminder as to why we shouldn't get lazy with this cause.
 

Colleen L (3)
Thursday June 29, 2017, 3:45 pm
Important information. Thanks Dandelion
 

Tom P (29)
Thursday June 29, 2017, 4:21 pm
You really think humans will still be alive in 2100? Hopefully we won't take all other living things with us.
 

Janet B (0)
Thursday June 29, 2017, 6:16 pm
Thanks
 

Janis K (132)
Thursday June 29, 2017, 6:51 pm
Thanks for sharing.
 

Joette B (0)
Thursday June 29, 2017, 7:10 pm
consider windmills for healthcare ! if California medicaid or partnership folks had a $25mo copay that went directly into mills for healthcare x's 4 million people that is $100million mo! x's 12 mo ='s 1.2BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR! or a shitload of windmills! allow each mill to mature ten times then split half for healthcare and reinvest the rest for more windmills that simple way of spending the same dollar ten times would give us more money and provide a future decompensation of health no more tax burdens JOBS HEALTHCARE GREENPOWER Notrump and we can be independent dignified self-sufficient providers with more than enough funds ! remember the adding one penny and double it every day to be rich principal? this is better ! by the time trump genocide care hits we won't need that bastard and we the poor disabled will provide green solutions as well as jobs and a fresh start we know we can not ignoire so many issues so let us put it all in one viable solution WINDMILLS NOT OIL SPILLS and health and....JUST IMAGINE IT! TAX FREE CARE!
 

Judy C (97)
Friday June 30, 2017, 1:11 am
Angelflowers needs to look up some of the massive research and documentation of sealevel rise, as well as wetlands and coastal land loss. Sadly, many people in the general public would consider taking a look at one pier and fantasizing that they can actually tell how much difference there has been in DECADES, is a perfectly reasonable way of evaluating this subject. Just a five-minute session with the search engine yields countless scientific treatments of the subject. I do wish people would look at the science and get informed. Way too many people are sailing along blissfully, expecting our shortsighted, terribly unsustainable lifestyle to continue indefinitely.
 

Margie F (152)
Friday June 30, 2017, 3:19 am
What are we leaving for future generations
 

Sylvie A (192)
Friday June 30, 2017, 4:16 am
Reshared.
Thanks
 

Marija M (34)
Friday June 30, 2017, 9:13 am
Thank you Dandelion.
 

iloshechka A (8)
Friday June 30, 2017, 9:55 am
noted
 

Leo C (338)
Friday June 30, 2017, 11:13 am
thank you for sharing!
 

Dandelion G (367)
Friday June 30, 2017, 12:45 pm
Thank you Joette for one solution that covers both climate change and health care. There are lots of solutions but we are not going to get them when our leadership is bound to the Corporate fossil fuel industry and Big Pharma. The elected leadership must STOP taking funding from these Corporations so that they are free to be making the best decisions for all of us not just a handful of the people who only have "profits" in mind.

I agree with you Judy - depending on how old one is we may not experience the worst of it, but as Tom P said will we be around 2100. I'd like to think so and be a whole lot smarter by then, because that is about 80 years away, meaning my grandchildren could be alive then.

They would be elders but I wouldn't want them to see the end of the world and have them watching their children and grandchildren be wiped out. Not to mention each year getting closer to 2100 would be harder and harder to exist let alone thrive. We are the generations alive now, that can make it better or worse for those who know today and their loved ones we will not meet. But the future arrives quickly so we have not the time to make any more mistakes.
 

Janet B (0)
Friday June 30, 2017, 5:54 pm
Thanks
 

Darren W (218)
Saturday July 1, 2017, 1:33 am
Given most of us won't be around in 2100. . . I think the message needs driving harder and harder, because mainstream, and right-wing thinking is just utterly ignorant as regards the reality of the situation, BUT, that school of thinking is what is currently decimating our world.
 

Margie F (152)
Saturday July 1, 2017, 2:52 am
Thanks again
 

Sylvie A (192)
Saturday July 1, 2017, 3:57 am
Thank you
 

pam w (139)
Saturday July 1, 2017, 8:37 am
Angelflowers? You're a good little sheep. Since you choose not to ''believe'' any REASONABLE group of scientists, you'll never have to worry at night. Just keep on breeding and hide your little ovine head in the sand.
 

Janet B (0)
Saturday July 1, 2017, 1:02 pm
Thanks
 

Margie F (152)
Sunday July 2, 2017, 12:35 am
Thanks again
 

Marco C (31)
Sunday July 2, 2017, 8:04 am
How nice that we can and do express opinions. An opinion based on facts is more worthy of consideration. Wishful thinking, emotional blather and denial are just that and are not to be confused as fact. Science is not an opinion and science doesn't care what you believe and by the way, neither does reality care what you believe. Disregard at your own risk.

You cannot ignore that decades of burning fossil fuels can have NO effect on life on the planet. If you don't believe it, then try a little experiment: close your garage while you sit in a running automobile, then check with me in the morning and let me know how you feel. I guarantee you won't survive it and there will be no difference of opinion or dispute of the facts in the morning. But since we all share the same garage, I would prefer that you don't try it.

We who are not scientists, are not in much of a position to challenge science. We may have our opinions and our concerns, but science is as close as we can get to truth and reality and it forms our basis of knowledge, until of course science discovers a greater truth and we get smarter as a species.

We have done fairly well as a species with knowledge, several examples include the ability to harness fire, and to deal with the cataclysmic changes that came along with the creation of the wheel. We were not discouraged and jumped forward again with mechanization, the magic of penicillin. We have demonstrated the ability to recognize the limits of technologies and methods and have profited from adopting better ones. The horse drawn carriage was good, swords and catapults - amazing, lamp oil was pretty good too, the incandescent light bulb was pretty slick.

Fossil fuels have brought us to this point, excellent! Time to move on. Our collective knowledge is too great to reside in the mind of a single person any more, we have to trust others who possess well thought out processes which are reproducible and are credible which represent reality to the best degree that we can grasp it.

Fossil fuels, you have been a great asset, but we're gonna move on before you turn humanity into an interesting blip in the history of the planet. We want to prove that we are smart enough and know how to preserve our well being, so thanks, we have reached our limit.
 

Darren W (218)
Sunday July 2, 2017, 11:29 am
Well said, Marco.
 

Janet B (0)
Sunday July 2, 2017, 7:46 pm
Thanks
 

Margie F (152)
Monday July 3, 2017, 12:11 am
Thanks again
 

Jerome S (0)
Monday July 3, 2017, 3:57 am
thanks
 

Marija M (34)
Monday July 3, 2017, 7:13 am
noted, tks
 

Enrico H (7)
Monday July 3, 2017, 8:53 am
thanks
 

Margie F (152)
Tuesday July 4, 2017, 12:47 am
Thanks again
 

Jim V (0)
Tuesday July 4, 2017, 4:37 am
thanks
 

Janet B (0)
Tuesday July 4, 2017, 6:49 pm
Thanks
 

Freya H (361)
Tuesday July 4, 2017, 6:52 pm
Excellent post, Marco C. You really tell it like it is. I don't think Angelflowers is a bad person, just butt-ignorant. What makes her think that NASA scientists are not trustworthy? Does she put her faith in witch doctors who read the future from chicken entrails or tossed bones?
 

Roslyn McBride (46)
Tuesday July 4, 2017, 8:03 pm
Very foolish of world leaders to ignore this.
 

Margie F (152)
Wednesday July 5, 2017, 12:54 am
Thanks again
 

Margie F (152)
Wednesday July 5, 2017, 11:20 pm
Thanks again
 

Janet B (0)
Thursday July 6, 2017, 1:55 pm
Thanks
 

Margie F (152)
Friday July 7, 2017, 2:08 am
Thanks again
 

Janet B (0)
Friday July 7, 2017, 8:54 pm
Thanks
 

Sheila D (28)
Saturday July 8, 2017, 4:41 pm
We have known about climate change/global warming for decades and nothing was done. Now they can actually see what's going on, so now more and more people are paying attention. I don't think we can stop the rise of the water or the global temperatures; however, we can slow down the process if we start doing something to fix the problems causing this future disaster. Thanks for sharing, Dandelion.
 

Janet B (0)
Saturday July 8, 2017, 8:11 pm
Thanks
 

Margie F (152)
Saturday July 8, 2017, 9:45 pm
Thanks again
 

Dianne D (490)
Sunday July 9, 2017, 12:03 am
good reason to vote Democratic, Independent or Green for the next elections. Republicans don't seem to care.
 

Janet B (0)
Sunday July 9, 2017, 8:29 pm
Thanks
 

Evelyn B (62)
Monday July 10, 2017, 1:04 am
Dianne - I'm not sure that ALL Democrat politicians take an actively pro-planet position, either. Not if their PAC members have vested interests in fossil fuels, chemical products etc ...

But maybe one can pressurise them through concerted public effort ...
And encourage GOP members to rethink, too, if they want to garner votes ...
 

Roberto MARINI (90)
Monday July 10, 2017, 9:28 am
thank you Dandelion for this post
 

Janet B (0)
Monday July 10, 2017, 5:45 pm
Thanks
 

Kay M (45)
Tuesday July 11, 2017, 8:46 pm
Good evening and thank you for thisa article - which i read and noted- also the video- which i watched- I have lived in LOUISIANA for over 75 years and my family goes back hundreds of years here -we definitely can attest to these climate change problems - from sea level- to stronger hurricanes- we are losing a football field size chunk of land every 6 seconds due to these weather problems- WE MUST STAND UP -SPEAK OUT - AND FIGHT AGAINST TRUMP GETTING OUT OF THE PARIS ACCORD- each one of us need to do our part to fight climate change -get our mayors and governors and congressional reps to join FRANCE AND THE OTHER 18 COUNTRIES THAT AGREE TO CONTINUE TO WORK TO MAKE THINGS BETTER- sincerely KAY M.
 

Margie F (152)
Wednesday July 12, 2017, 2:37 am
Thanks again
 

Dandelion G (367)
Wednesday July 12, 2017, 12:22 pm
That is a lot of lost ground Kay, I recall reading the loss awhile back and recall it was staggering then but it does seem worse, every 6 seconds. Omg.
 

Darren W (218)
Wednesday July 12, 2017, 12:54 pm
Get a load of this then. . .
1 trillion-ton Iceberg—4 times the size of LONDON—has broken off Antarctica
 

Dandelion G (367)
Thursday July 13, 2017, 10:40 am
Well it happened Darren, as you left the link to it. I've been watching that story unfold for years. Last time I had read anything they were saying it was only a matter of a few weeks. So it has.......

"Rod Downie, head of polar programs at environmental charity WWF, said: “The sheer scale of this natural calving event is impressive–we will need to redraw the map of the Antarctic Peninsula.”

Meanwhile Donald Trump has pulled out of the Paris Agreement and is signing out any and all regulations that is protecting the environment and eventually ourselves. He should go down in history books as the all time worst.....but will we even have a history to look back upon at the rate we are destroying ourselves?
 

Darren W (218)
Thursday July 13, 2017, 10:57 am
As a result of this, they're going to have to re-write geographical maps. . . .

I agree that Trump is proving to be the WORST American President ever, and trumping Bush takes some doing. . . . His capacity to shoot off at the hip on twitter is astonishingly scary.
 

Claudia A (81)
Thursday July 13, 2017, 1:23 pm
Sad to read the comments...denial, apathy, ignorance...since when business are more powerful than life :(
 

Dandelion G (367)
Thursday July 13, 2017, 5:29 pm
I agree someone needs to shut his twitter account off. But then he is the President so I guess no one will.
 

Margie F (152)
Friday July 14, 2017, 3:25 am
Thanks again
 

Margie F (152)
Friday July 14, 2017, 5:27 am
Thanks again
 

Margie F (152)
Monday July 17, 2017, 2:14 am
Thanks again
 

Margie F (152)
Monday July 17, 2017, 3:24 am
Thanks again
 

Melania P (142)
Friday August 4, 2017, 10:05 am
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