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Dictator Obama Issues New Threat to Supreme Court Over ObamaCare


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: abuse, americans, congress, constitution, corruption, crime, democrats, dishonesty, ethics, government, healthcare, lies, news, obama, propaganda, usa, SupremeCourt )

Carol
- 850 days ago - canadafreepress.com
In his latest display of his full USA federal government dictatorship over both the American people and the former co-branches of government, Dictator Obama is warning the Supreme Court to either rule in his favor or face severe consequences.



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Carol Dreeszen (364)
Friday May 4, 2012, 12:02 am
In his latest display of his full USA federal government dictatorship over both the American people and the former co-branches of government, Dictator Obama is warning the Supreme Court to either rule in his favor or face severe consequences.

Fox News’ Martha McCallum advised Thursday that the Obama Administration has been quietly sending missives to the Supreme Court threatening that if it doesn’t rule in his favor on ObamaCare, Medicare will face disruption and “chaos.” Therefore, if SCOTUS rules in favor of the US Constitution, Obama & Co will begin its campaign to either destroy Medicare or make those on it suffer greatly. The Obama syndicate is said to be threatening to hold off Medicare payments to doctors and hospitals if SCOTUS does not comply with Obama’s demands and submit to him.

As an additional example of Obama’s illegal and (I believe) highly treasonous behaviors, on 1 May and 2 May Obama issued two additional unconstitutional and illegal Executive Orders. The first E.O., issued 1 May 2012, makes the USA subject to “international regulations” as opposed to looking to and following the US Constitution. Also, with this new E.O., the US FDA will now be able to be bypassed by International committees—thus, replacing the FDA with any international group which may be chosen. In essence, Obama is quickly eliminating US Sovereignty and selling the USA to the international “community.”

The second E.O. issued in 2 days was signed by Obama on 2 May 2012. This E.O. instructs the USA to bow to international regulations instead of the US Constitution and Businessweek reports: “Obama’s order provides a framework to organize scattered efforts to promote international regulatory cooperation, the chamber’s top global regulatory official said today.

“Today’s executive order marks a paradigm shift for U.S. regulators by directing them to take the international implications of their work into account in a consistent and comprehensive way,” Sean Heather, vice president of the chamber’s Center for Global Regulatory Cooperation, said in an e-mailed statement.” This also brings the USA closer to becoming a “North American Union” and—also—eliminating its sovereignty—in toto.

Suffice it to say, no one in Congress has issued even the proverbial “peep” over either of these illegal “orders.” Do the American people really want to continue to live under this blatant tyranny?

The second question is “Will the Supreme Court of the United States of America bow to Obama and give up its co-equal status to the dictator as the US Congress has already done?” If so, perhaps its time for We-the-People to recruit the Honduran Supreme Court who, along with their military, ousted its then President Manuel Zelaya who had become a dictator. Oppression under the Obama syndicate becomes worse each and every day, folks. Will we ever choose to go back to the sunshine?

“And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?”—Revelation 13:4
 

gone Gone (19)
Friday May 4, 2012, 5:26 am
If this doesn't show Obama thinks his ABOVE the law , i don't know what .
 

gone Gone (19)
Friday May 4, 2012, 6:37 am
Obama's living proof americans can be dumb as hell , they proved this by electing this character , who by this action, clearly thinks he's above the law , we all know he thinks he's above God. For this country's sake , I sure hope americans elect a real Presient the next time around.
 

Scarlett P. (126)
Friday May 4, 2012, 8:43 am
Thanks Carol!!

We know what happens to the beast!! LOL
 

Jae A. (323)
Friday May 4, 2012, 9:45 am
Carol ...the other day you article was about Obama being a fascist-marxist...some prior to that were that he is a socialist...and others that he is a communist.....today he's a "dictato"r. Do you are any of the other teabaggers really know what the difference is between each of those...It is my guess that not many of any really do. Just hyped words from the Karl Rove playbook of B.S.

Blue Angel....Dubya Bush showed the world just how dumb some Americans can be and still be president...well that is if they can be appointed by the Supreme Court to be president that is. Nixon and Bush both showed the world how much above the laws they felt they were so what's your point [s] I do wonder..other than just making funny statements :-) . As for electing a real President...that went out the window in 2000 for certain ...The President is the problem nor the solution and that where the rightwing is so far in the dark as to seeing 'the whole picture'...Changing Presidents will not solve things. More things need changed than just one person in our present corporate system of government and at this time no one running for President is remotely the answer to the problems we face as a nation....THe alternatives to Obama are worse if anything ...but hey,why go for solutions when you can just bash away at a president....right ?!
 

BarbCat SunshineLady (1643)
Friday May 4, 2012, 9:47 am
Almost every President feels it's easier to lie to the American public than tell the truth....thank you Carol. TY Toni for the fwd.
 

Brian M. (145)
Friday May 4, 2012, 9:50 am
If heat were light, we'd all be enlightened.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Friday May 4, 2012, 12:17 pm
Jae...A narcissist can be all things didn't you know that!? He is ALL of them...given whatever time or event he wants to use them all he does! And the point is Jae...he once again thinks he can tell the Supreme Court what to do....don't you find that extremely offensive, narcissistic and scary to think one acting like a Dictator in a case like this thinks he can rule over ALL of Americans!? That includes you too you know! Which means eventually you won't be able to say what you just said above!!! Freedom of speech....GONE!! Think about it!

Thanks Blue..Scarlett...Barb and Brian!
 

Carol K. (0)
Friday May 4, 2012, 1:50 pm
"...but hey,why go for solutions when you can just bash away at a president....right ?! "
Right on, Jae. "It's Bush's fault! It's Bush's fault! It's Bush's fault!"

One can only hope that the SCOTUS will come up with a fair and just judgment on the Obamacare case; and wouldn't it be so very interesting to read those "missives" from POTUS to SCOTUS -- wonder if they'll be published some day.
 

Betsy Bee (1050)
Friday May 4, 2012, 4:08 pm
@Blue Angel. I capital Canadians, the Irish, etc. Why are you insulting Americans by not capitalizing the "A"?
 

Kate R. (10)
Friday May 4, 2012, 5:54 pm
Canada Free Press - you have to be kidding me.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Friday May 4, 2012, 6:02 pm
Kate O Kate....We understand your inability to comprehend the truth!! :-) God Bless You!
 

Kate R. (10)
Friday May 4, 2012, 6:21 pm
Considering your truth seems to be debunked time after time, I wonder who really doesn't comprehend.
 

Nancy L. (139)
Friday May 4, 2012, 10:08 pm
Debunked? Where???
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Friday May 4, 2012, 10:38 pm
That is my thought's Nan...WHERE Kate!?!? We hear a lot of BS from you but no actual facts!!
 

Kate R. (10)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 5:17 am
You post articles from Koch funded foundations, are right on the band wagon of the "birth certificate" conspiracy. I say a whole post on you providing alleged "proof" for this conspiracy which is thoroughly and completely debunked. I think in the Urban Dictionary under BS Carol, your picture would suffice.
 

John Gregoire (255)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 5:22 am
Geez, dear liberals, get it right will ya! Obama voted for the EPA travesty in 2005 and Cheny never voted. As a result we have the fracking problems.

I was struck last week with competing photos of GW Bush enjoying a time with wounded warriors -quitely and without the press. The same day Obama was USING those in uniform for political gain while his administration busily worked on cutting benefits to military retirees.

Socialist -yes, Communist -I don't think so,Narcissist -definetly, Rip off artist -yep!, Fascist-marxist -nope, Dictator -only in his dreams! Whatever label you apply this man is duplicitous, anti-emvironmental and nothing more than a supreme politician with a gift for gab.

Never again!
 

Nancy L. (139)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 5:41 am
I see, debunked because you say so....;) gotcha
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 9:44 am
That is what she does all the time Nan!! She has nothing else to offer!

John..I just looked at that photo of him again dancing with that young woman Vet who was an amputee and that really does show what Bush is all about...he looks at himself as one of them instead of looking at them with disgust like Obama does! Very heart moving!
 

Arielle S. (317)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 10:23 am
Hey, Jae, should we be so unfortunate as to have a GOP in office next time, let's make sure we come up with a bunch of crapola to post about that president, too, ok? Doesn't matter if there's any truth to it or if it's got merit - we'll just be denigrating and completely clueless but act as if we are really in the know. After all, it IS so much easier to be critical....
 

Billie C. (2)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 10:26 am
when will the american people wake up and give obama the boot? the more time he's in office the harder it will be to get him out. don't count on him leaving peacefully when he loses the election. he has plans on staying till death. hopefully the court will boot him and his policies to the curb. at least flip him the finger.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 11:10 am
I agree with you Billie 100%!! My guess is it's people like Arielle that refuse to see what Obama actually is! Those who refuse to see the truth are not the ones we need to inform..they won't believe it even when it is staring them in the face! It's the other ones who are undecided that we need to give more information to! And you are totally right that Obama won't go down easy! Once he knows he is being booted out he will double down his destruction before a new President comes in! We know that for a fact!
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 11:12 am
After all, it IS so much easier to be critical....

Arielle...With Obama that is NO problem at all..we don't even have to LOOK for things to be critical about him...he brings it all right to us!
 

Kate R. (10)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 12:40 pm
Carol, you have anymore Birther crap to post, that thread looked pretty funny. Wish I had got in on that one while it was hot.
 

Jae A. (323)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 2:03 pm
They have a ton of tabloid funny articles to post for bashing away...real racist appeal type things Arielle.

Too bad they weren't paying attention when Dubya was in the White House as they would see all their 'hot buttom Rove style key words' applied to him first and formost but then these folks don't care about truth/facts an 'the bigger picture' when it comes to our national crisis, so this is the best they have to offer..old used and abused Karl Rove playbook tactics ...

Carol , you said above "really does show what Bush is all about" ..but you failed to mentioned that he was the one who sent them to be killed or injuried for corporate profits...which is what he really really really was and still is all about.

Same ol same bashing/lies and denial from the teabaggers and assorted rightwing extremist is all this thread is about. They only care that a black man is president, not how we got into the crisis we are in nor solutions as to how to solve them. They are so out of touch they think changing presidents will solve things....it might change the color/race of the face of the person in the White House but that's about it.

In my opinion, after eight years of GOP rule...the Dubya Years; anyone who would vote for another of them for any position in government are either total idiots or Nazies at heart.
 

Nancy Roussy (79)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 3:20 pm
I suggest to you and everybody else who think like that to visit at least one day a country that has a dictator, if your idiotic butts survive this and can come back in your country you probably will keep on being brainwashed by Fox and the republicans since you already have a weak mind to start with but at least you would of endured a real dictatorship like the poor people stuck in those countries does every second of their lives!
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 4:31 pm
They have a ton of tabloid funny articles to post for bashing away...real racist appeal type things Arielle.

Jae..You mean like the liberals bashing of Bush and the Koch brothers and and the Tea Party anyone else involved with the Republican party!? Oh Yes Jae....yuo all know well exactly what you are talking about...it's called being hypocrites!!
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 4:36 pm
Nancy..And how do you suppose those countries got the Dictators they got!? Mmmmmmmmmmmmm...you answered your own questions!! It's because the people were not smart enough to forsee the future with these Dictators now had they been able to mentally see this quite possibly the outcome might be different!? Do you see the people here in the US laying down and saying we give up!? Hell NO!! This is why we are fighting this corrupt bastard!!
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 6:03 pm
Well after all Obama is just 'pretending' to be a Christian. He's not just a 'dictator', he's the anti-Christ too isn't he? Let's force, I mean put, God back in the U.S.A! (I'm speaking rhetorically here of course because I'm not American.) Down with 'people like Arielle' who refuse to see the absolute indisputable and unarguable truth about God and Christian fundamentalism being what everyone and the U.S.A needs! !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Damn those muslims too! (oh that's another thread...)
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 9:10 pm
Kenneth...Yes....Yes...he could "probably" be considered the anti Christ...Yes..put God back in this country and there will be less hatred...people like Arielle hopefully will one day wake up and it has nothing to do with her belief in God..if she don't want to she don't have to..everyone is responsible for their own decisions...do you notice I don't have the animosity towards you that you appear to have for anyone and everyone who believes in God!? That should tell you something! And yes the USA needs God in this country more so now than ever before! We will cease to exist without him! Look where it has gotten us with a Dictator who tries to stop Christianity from existing in this country today and he's a Christian!?!? Not hardly with a Muslim upbringing and yes he did say he would side with the Muslims if the winds change not a quote but you get the idea of what he said! He is a Muslim through and through!
 

Betsy Bee (1050)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 10:38 pm
No mention of how much Obama has enlarged the federal government. What am I missing? POPULISM. NO sign of POPULISM at all. You know populism, populist like me. People who want the federal government to be so small that it would be incapable of ruining our quality of life by invading our privacy and intruding into our daily lives.

The last president to be a champion of the people was Andrew Jackson. Andrew Jackson, quite literally whip in hand, for the benefit of the people, sorted out the East Coast liberal elites and DC hangers on for the people to maintain the sovereign, Constitutionally mandated rights of the people.

Since Jackson, no holder of the office has used the power of the office for the people. I believe it is the party system. The party system is all about backroom deals to get the nomination. All successful politicians become somehow corrupted in their power seeking. All politicians seek power and pander themselves to get more influence in the party.

Andrew Jackson was the last president who came to the people without the benefit or crony deals of a political party. He came directly to the people, directly to the service of the people and the government after a truly glorious career of selfish and heroic military service.

We will never see his like again but we should never forget his level of service and we should demand a much, much smaller government and the ability to live our lives without government interference in our daily lives from whoever we trust to hold the office of president.

Do not forget populism and privacy and the people's quality of life.
 

Cam V. (417)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 10:44 pm
As an atheist I can attest that anything to do with God has never and will never hurt me. To me it is some very special customs and traditions that I hold dear to my old heart and always will. A little religion never killed anybody and the traditions that went with what I learned growing up will always be part of my life.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 10:45 pm
Darn Green Bee..I can't send you another star but I would sned you at least a dozen if I could!! Awesome reply!!
 

Betsy Bee (1050)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 11:16 pm
Thank you, Carol, I am sending you a green star for making this posting and for monitoring this thread. I do have some nightmares about our HUGE federal government.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 11:37 pm
Thanks Green Bee!!! I am a firm believer in the statement "give them enough rope and they will hang themselves!!" :-)
 

Patricia N. (8)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 11:46 pm
OMG I live in Canada and never knew we had a Canada Free Press (internet only) with a little over 4,000 followers. Well I'll have to study this a bit more. From what I can see it looks pretty religious to me (which is strange as Canada is a pretty secular country....thank goodness) So far as I can see looks like it was set up by Fox News. But I mustn't judge until I have read some more. I wonder where they got all that stuff on Obama from?? They must have really good investigative reporters on staff as I never heard any of this on our CBC news or PBS news out of the States. Cheerio....I'm off to read.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 11:56 pm
Patricia..You live in Canada and didn't know they had the Canada Free Press!?!? LOL They have been around for YEARS! And as far as I know they have nothing to do with Fox News! You don't like Fox News either!? They are the only ones I trust with the truth of all the news sites!! I have seen though that they report the REAL news...they don't report false information and that is why I started reading their news quite awhile ago! They have very interesting and up to date information that says everything as it is. Cam has written several articles for Canada Free Press also! Please do check them out and let us know what you think...even if it's negative about them! I would like to know why you feel that way if you do! ;-)
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 11:57 pm
And I don't know about Religious....I have never thought of them that way!!
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 1:57 am
Carol: "do you notice I don't have the animosity towards you that you appear to have for anyone and everyone who believes in God!?" That's a typical type of view from a fundamentalist. You presume for Arielle about 'the truth' and for me my belief in God. You don't know what my belief in God is. Yet you speak as an 'authority' with some elevated superiority because of your beliefs.
I simply posted my comment to show your Christian fundamentalism exactly as it is, to show your bias and prejudice against anything non-Christian.
The drive behind your anti-Obama attacks are like Pink's, Christian fundamentalist driven. If you can't control everything like you wish, you'll tear down anyone who is in power and thinks differently than you.
 

Barbara DeFratis (23)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 6:44 am
Oh, Fox (Propaganda) nEWS is responsible--no wonder this is a bunch of Fiction. Yeah, leave it to the Right-Wing Fundamentalist to make believe that they have the right to sit in Judgment of who is or who is not a 'True Christian' if only they could open their eyes and see that they have no right to judge anyone because we are all equally members of a 'Fallen Race' But Thank You Carol for being living breathing proof of why this Independent who has been voting ever since I have turned 18, but will be 51 soon--very soon--will be voting a straight party ticket for the first time ever--I WILL VOTE 100% DEMOCRAT--THANK YOU-THANK YOU THANK YOU.
 

Janet W. (6)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 7:09 am
Well, as I see it,people will vote what they want and if you want 4 more years of triple billion dollar spending, that's exactly what you will get. One of you said you will be 51 soon. I hope you have and continue to have perfect health because if you don't you will be facing a panel of people (not medical people) who will be telling you what kind and how much care you can get and if it isn't enough then you will face a death panel and they will tell you how you will die. It sure as hell won't be your choice. If you people want Obamacare, you really should read the whole thing. There is a lot of crap hidden in that bill that will only come to light as the "Great One" decides. I certainly hope you like having a Dictator run your every thought and all your life decisions because that is just what you will get and in fact, just what you deserve.
 

Kate R. (10)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 8:02 am
It is not too hard to find information about the Canada Free Press. It seems to be the paper of the lunatic fringe.

Canada Free Press published the home addresses of nurse, homeless activist, co-founder of the Toronto Disaster Relief Committee, Cathy Crowe, and that of John Clarke of the Ontario Coalition Against Poverty. There is suggestion that Judith McLeod, founder of CFP, encouraged her readers to harass and physically attack Crowe.

CFP's standing among journalists and media outlets is pretty low, including criticism from Conservative Kevin Michael Grace. He described Judith McLeod's writing as that of an "emotionally incontinent ninth grader". Antonia Zerbiasis, Toronto Star columnist, refers to McLeod as "eccentric" and the Canadian Free Press as a "whacko news site". That is pretty accurate.

Judith McLeod also plagiarized an satirical article from The Onion. It seems that she did not realize that the article was satirical.

She also wrote an article about a Police Officer who was a mentor to her and his efforts to help her raise advertising revenue for the CFP. The following year, several police officers were arrested for shaking down local bars and clubs. One of the things that they were demanding was that they place ads in a local newspaper. How coincidental.

McLeod also claimed "the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States may have been a Mafia plot and not the work of al-Qaeda terrorists".

Getting It All Wrong

Here are some instances where Judith McLeod has been guilty of being an idiot.

She claimed in 2004 that Michael Moore would be charged for interfering in the Canadian Federal Elections. Elections Canada denied that they had ever considered charging Moore with anything.

She accused Conservative leader Stephen Harper was a liberal plant to overthrow the election. The problem is that her charge was based on her lack of understanding that the Queen's Privy Council and the Privy Council Office are two separate bodies. In other words, her whole accusation was based on her lack of knowledge and research.

This is verbatim from http://encycl.opentopia.com/term/Canada_Free_Press:

"On Tuesday, February 7, 2006, McLeod wondered why information in a Wikipedia article on Kofi Annan suggesting that his father had been a "leading freemason" had "flat out disappear[ed] from Wikipedia".

Research by Wikipedia editors revealed that such claims had never appeared in the article. She may have confused Wikipedia with William Shawcross's website which is where the information actually appears.

Wikipedia staff sent the CFP a letter to the editor about this on 12 February 2006. Neither McLeod or her staff have responded to Wikipedia or corrected the article. The CFP claims to "show all our letters--good and bad" in their letter blog but have not published either of Wikipedia's letters."

What a joke.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 9:13 am
Ahhhhhhhhhh...so now you come out with your beliefs of WHY what i say is Christian because it reminds you of Pinks...WRONG again!! Pink and I are 2 different people..she has her beliefs and I have mine when it comes to Christianity. As a matter of fact I don't even know exactly what she believes in faith or what faith she believes but yet you lump us together.And the drive behind our disgust for Obama has partly to do with Christianity because of the simple fact he is trying to take our freedom to worship away from us and you don't find that something to be concerned about in a free society!? But for the most part our disdain for that man is the fact he is a liar, a thief, a crook, a narcissist, a bullie, destructive and the list is endless!! The most important one of all EVERYTHING he is doing he is doing to DESTROY our country and if you and Arielle can't see that then there is NO hope for you at all in the least!! Now THAT is so totally sad it is pathetic!! And I know you are smarter than that!
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 9:23 am
Barbara D...You are one of them I am talking about where there is no hope for because you will refuse to get smart and see where this Dictator is taking you and I am so glad that you are so totally happy with the liberals that want to keep you down in the gutters and apparently that's where you like be!! :-) For sure you can't see he is using you all and whoever believes him have taken the propaganda hook, line and sinker! There will be no thanks from you either when those of us who can see in the future what would happen with another 4 years of him votes his sorry ass out!! Also....mark my word you will also see a LOT of other Democrats getting voted out too UNLESS they are the ones with sense and can actually SEE what a disaster this guy is...yes..there are some who have already abandoned Obama...now your talking!!
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 9:31 am
Oh Yes Kate...Any newspaper that don't subscribe to your liberal way of thinking definitely has to be crooked or someone from it has had to attack someone or anything totally crooked or disgusting....isn't that what you are trying to say!? If it's the truth...don't believe it ..it's all lies!! Unbelievable! Let people make up their own mind!! You did read where I said please let me know what you think of it even if you do not agree with it an why....didn't you!? Out of your last propaganda and any of the others can you find where you ever said that to anyone!? NO!? I didn't think so!!
 

Kathy B. (98)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 11:24 am
A presidential executive order (EO) is a directive issued to federal agencies, department heads, or other federal employees by the President of the United States under his statutory or constitutional powers.

In many ways, presidential executive orders are similar to written orders, or instructions issued by the president of a corporation to its department heads or directors.

Thirty days after being published in the Federal Register, executive orders become law. While they do bypass the U.S. Congress and the standard legislative law making process, no part of an executive order may direct the agencies to conduct illegal or unconstitutional activities.

President George Washington issued the first executive order in 1789. Since then, all U.S. presidents have issued executive orders, ranging from Presidents Adams, Madison and Monroe, who issued only one each, to President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who issued 3,522 executive orders.

Reasons for Issuing Executive Orders

Presidents typically issue executive orders for one of these purposes:

1. Operational management of the executive branch
2. Operational management of federal agencies or officials
3. To carry out statutory or constitutional presidential responsibilities

In 1970, President Richard Nixon used this executive order to establish a new federal agency, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, under the Department of Commerce.

Shortly after the December 7, 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor, President Franklin D. Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066, directing the interment of more than 120,000 Japanese Americans, many of whom were U.S. citizens.

In reaction to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, President George W. Bush issued this executive order combining over 40 federal law enforcement agencies and creating the Cabinet-level Department of Homeland Security.

As one of his first official actions President Obama issued an executive order that some claimed allowed him to hide his personal records - like his birth certificate - from the public. In fact, the order had a very different goal.

Can Executive Orders be Overridden or Withdrawn?

The president can amend or retract an executive at any time. The president may also issue an executive order superseding an existing one. New incoming presidents may choose to retain the executive orders issued by their predecessors, replace them with new ones of their own, or revoke the old ones completely. In extreme cases, Congress may pass a law that alters an executive order, and they can be declared unconstitutional and vacated by the Supreme Court.

Executive Orders vs. Proclamations

Presidential proclamations differ from executive orders in that they are either ceremonial in nature or deal with issues of trade and may or may not carry legal effect. Executive orders have the legal effect of a law.

Constitutional Authority for Executive Orders

Article II, section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads, in part, "The executive power shall be vested in a president of the United States of America." And, Article II, section 3 asserts that, "The President shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed..." Since the Constitution does not specifically define executive power, critics of executive orders argue that these two passages do not imply constitutional authority. But, Presidents of the United States since George Washington have argued that they do and have used them accordingly.

Modern Use of Executive Orders

Until World War I, executive orders were used for relatively minor, usually unnoticed acts of state. That trend changed drastically with passage of the War Powers Act of 1917. This act passed during WWI granted the president temporary powers to immediately enact laws regulating trade, economy, and other aspects of policy as they pertained to enemies of America. A key section of the War Powers act also contained language specifically excluding American citizens from its effects.

The War Powers Act remained in effect and unchanged until 1933 when a freshly elected President Franklin D. Roosevelt found America in the panic stage of the Great Depression. The first thing FDR did was to convene a special session of Congress where he introduced a bill amending the War Powers Act to remove the clause excluding American citizens from being bound by its effects. This would allow the President to declare "national emergencies" and unilaterally intact laws to deal with them. This massive amendment was approved by both houses of Congress in less than 40 minutes without debate. Hours later, FDR officially declared the depression a "national emergency" and stared issuing a string of executive orders that effectively created and implemented his famed "New Deal" policy.

While some of FDR's actions were, perhaps, constitutionally questionable, history now acknowledges them as having helped to avert the people's growing panic and starting our economy on its way to recovery.

Presidential Directives and Memorandums Same as Executive Orders

Occasionally, presidents issue orders to executive branch agencies through "presidential directives" or "presidential memorandums," instead of executive orders. In January 2009, the U.S. Department of Justice issued a statement declaring presidential directives (memorandums) to have exactly the same effect as executive orders.

"A presidential directive has the same substantive legal effect as an executive order. It is the substance of the presidential action that is determinative, not the form of the document conveying that action," wrote acting U.S. Assistant Attorney General Randolph D. Moss. "Both an executive order and a presidential directive remain effective upon a change in administration, unless otherwise specified in the document, and both continue to be effective until subsequent presidential action is taken."
 

Kate R. (10)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 3:11 pm
Carol - I agree with you that much of mainstream media leaves a lot to be desired. There are a lot of non mainstream news media outlets that are credible. The problem with CFP seems to be that they participate in underhanded tactics (I think that posting the addresses of advocates of the homeless far from stellar behavior), plagiarism, the misunderstanding of principles or information which is the foundation of a story are problems and speak to CFP's credibility. It seems that the fail to perform due diligence before the report which is demonstrated in the examples I provided.

What I don't quite get is that the people who are, for instance' screaming against government regulation on the financial sector, which is something the Tea-Party wants, are the same people who defrauded the world and created the biggest financial meltdown in history.

Certainly people can make up their own minds. I wouldn't suggest anything other than that. People though, should make their own minds up based on an informed opinion, not just on rhetoric relying on nothing other than hot air.

I hadn't heard of CFP until just now, but looking through their articles, they certainly could use a good copy editor. I don't know why you get so wound up like a top when people disagree with you. The more specific and supportive evidence they have to contradict your opinion, the more hysterical you seem to get.

You also seem to have huge problems when people post factual information which contradicts your post. It appears that you make less sense, the more agitated you get. It isn't propaganda Carol when it is true. I am having an extremely difficult time understanding the majority of your last post. Perhaps, you could clarify.
 

Betsy Bee (1050)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 6:38 pm
All posters look at the terrible commercial advertisement over this posting. It is ruining Carol's thread. Please help get this troller off the thread. Click "flag as inappropriate" then fill out the short form to let Care 2 know the problem with the posting. It only takes a minute. Several complaints from different people will get it removed. It is very important to do this. Sometimes these advertisements are for pornographic sites.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 9:12 pm
Kathy..The problem with Obama and the Executive Orders is he abuses them for whatever it is he wants under the guise that he is the President and he should know best...unfortunately that is not true in this instance with this President. He has abused more power as President than any President ever!! He looks at being President as you would go out and sign a blank check to someone you didn't know and tell them to have a good time!! Would you do that!? Of course not...but Obama has taken the Executive Order as a free for all for him to do what the hell he wants when he wants regulations/laws/conditions be damned!!!!
 

Kate R. (10)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 9:26 pm
Green Bee - You want to flag people because they are expressing their opinion on a public forum? If someone provides information that refutes the material posted here is a troll? Why are you on a public forum when these issues are essentially put up to debate if you have no intention of debating them or commenting on them. Your tactics seem very similar to those of Judith McLeod, head of CFP. If you don't like what other people say or do, encourage others to castigate them.
 

Betsy Bee (1050)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 9:43 pm
Duh, Kate. Can you read?

Obviously enough people who can read, unlike you, did flag the advertisement that appeared above my comment and Care 2 removed it.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 9:57 pm
Kate...I have never know or seen the Canada Free Press to be underhanded. If you have a problem with what they did why not contact them...contact the person who made the article...their addresses are always right below the article!! I can honestly say I never read the article you are talking about and I do not agree with giving out addresses of people...remember George Zimmerman and the freaking jerk comedian who made a big joke out of giving his address out only to find out later it was now the home of an elderly couple who were scared Sh*tless from this jerk telling everyone this was George Zimmerman's home!?!? So you see it works on both sides of the fence but how much outrage did we hear from the left over this!? How about some parents of those on the left owning a home and having someone give out false information where their parents are put in grave danger!?!? Would the left then be able to see what the right is talking about as far as the insanity and the carried away insanity that this George Zimmerman case has taken!? The man has not even has a trial yet and some have already convicted him..that is about as unfair as you can get and you want to talk about dangerous!?!? The threats his family has had on their lives..the lives they will never again be able to live in a peaceful way again and the fact is he is part BLACK!! So here are the Faraken's, the Jesse Jackson's the Obama's, the Eric Holder's and all of the rest of them condemning him because he is a white HISPANIC that killed a black young MAN and don't even realize they want to kill part of their heritage!! You want to talk about crazy!? Martin was not a child like they are portraying which is also a lie!! Where was the outrage from the left on that as far as bringing out the truth..he wasn't a 13 or 14 year old kid like when that picture was taken!!! He was a young ADULT!! The newspapers lied by ommission of putting in a current picture of him to prey on sympathy..now how screwed up is that!? You don't consider that lying!? Why don't we call Obama a white BLACK!? Does that make sense!? The insanity of all of this stuff that the left comes out with without realizing the BS they do is pathetic!! It's a 2 way road!!!

If you remember George Bush warned the people and the Banks about Fanny Mae and Freddie Mack this was not good and it would fail..did anyone take his heed!? Nope!! Then of course we get Obama in there and he is the one who gave the go ahead for giving all of these hand outs bail outs or whatever you want to call them. And here we are today!

I do believe that people can make up their own minds and I firmly believe they don't make up their minds on hot air....anyone with common sense can decide for themselves what makes more sense. Anyone with a half a brain can decide whether somebody is just blowing off steam or not and they also I believe can differentiate between common sense information and information that don't make sense along with the fact they can see how this country has gone down the tubes since Obama has been in and is getting worse every day! that really don't take a rocket scientist to figure that out!

I don't get wound up like a top when people disagree with me...I get wound up like a top when the arrogance and the stupidity comes out from some that it is so apparent they are blind to the disasters that Obama is doing today! I am passionate in what I believe in especially when I feel it is for the betterment of the American citizen! It is frustrating to think that some people can appear to be so ignorant and so casual about the destruction going on in this country...we can not survive another 4 years of this!!!!!!!!!

Kate....or whoever you are that is replying this message because it sure is not Kate..it appears to sane to be Kate!! She has never replied with a message that I could actually see some respect in it! that's a compliment by the way whoever you are! Factual information is true and good I just do not happen to believe any of the bias liberal media crap! Too much of it has been filled with lies as I have stated above and before the lies were shown boldly to these news stations they refused to apologize...NBC..MSNBC and all of the George Zimmerman false info they intentionally left out to sway people against George Zimmerman...you know those kind of facts just don't cut it with me! Then you have CNN and the rest of them...the liberal media is very short on facts and truth!!
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 10:00 pm
Thanks Green Bee..you reply JUST FINE!! And you can debate with the best of them..anyone who think s they have the right to tell someone else they can't debate is part of the problem!!
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Monday May 7, 2012, 3:44 am
Carol D, I didn't say you and Pink are the same person. I said your anti-Obama attacks are LIKE Pink's. Continuous use of CAPS and CONTINUOUS EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are Pinky-like. Telling others 'the truth' Condescending to anyone who doesn't agree with your views about Obama and how terrible he is.
You're either lying about Pink or you're an excellent clone.
Your Christian fundamentalism is the driving force behind your attacks on Obama.

"The most important one of all EVERYTHING he is doing he is doing to DESTROY our country and if you and Arielle can't see that then there is NO hope for you at all in the least!! "
This is just more continuous retarded rhetoric, authoritative, know-it-all, domineering, invalidating, crapola of yours.

The last person I would believe about anything is LOUDLY SPOUTING OFF ABOUT WHAT THE 'FACTS AND TRUTH' ARE ABOUT SOMETHING AND PROCLAIMING DIRECTLY OR SUBTLY HOW BLIND AND PATHETIC AND STUPID ANYONE IS WHO CAN'T SEE OR KNOW THE 'FACTS AND TRUTH' THAT THEY KNOW.....
Seriously deficient and rotflmao.
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Monday May 7, 2012, 3:49 am
(I thought I'd demonstrate a bit of your's and Pinky's methods of CAPS. I've left out putting exclamation points on the end of every sentence like you do----reminds me too much of the comics.)
 

Kate R. (10)
Monday May 7, 2012, 4:06 am
Ken - I think for people who are on their soapbox like these guys who talk, talk and talk about Constitutional rights, they certainly don't walk the walk. When they read something they don't like, they use their mob tactics to have comments removed that disagree with their ideology.

Carol - this is not debating. Debating involves responding to the argument, not having people's comments removed.
 

Nancy L. (139)
Monday May 7, 2012, 8:40 am
Carol would never have anyone's comments removed. You are mistaken.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Monday May 7, 2012, 9:27 am
Kate..You are mistaken if you think I had ANY of your comments removed and as a matter of fact I have not flagged ANY of them..but I do not expect you to believe me!! Whatever!!

Ken my Caps are NOT YELLING...emphasis added...I do so ONLY to get a POINT across...does THAT help you at all!? What or who I remind you of I can not help....if the shoe fits wear it type thing....each to his or her own! And is there any possibility that we can stick to the topics instead of criticizing one for the manner in which they "emphasize" something. Isn't that a little picky!? Also..I never said that you said Pink and I were the same person..of course we're not but we each have our own manner in which we TRY and get a point across..f there are similarities then that is ALL they are!
 

Kate R. (10)
Monday May 7, 2012, 1:57 pm
Carol: It was not directed to you, but to Green Bee, who I am now extending my apologies for misunderstanding your comment regarding removal of a post. I do concur with Ken though the over punctuation and overcapitalization makes it extremely difficult to read the comment. In addition, in cyberworld etiquette, overcapitalization is supposed to convey YELLING.

Green B. - If I misunderstood you my apologies. There must have been a comment above hers which was not there when I posted, leaving my comment right above yours leading me to believe that you were referring to m my post. Reading the follow up, I now gather that there must have been a post above yours which had subsequently been removed.

 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Monday May 7, 2012, 2:09 pm
Kate...Thank You! What Ken has said may be the norm unless it is specified that the capitalization is stated as emphasis only which is what my capitalization is meant to do along with Pink's...there is no need to yell but sometimes there is a need to "emphasis!" And can you explain to me where I OVER punctuated!? I punctuate in order to have a certain topic I am talking about stand out in relation to something or bring the focus of the conversation to that point. That is definitely not over punctuating to me especially when so many today read a sentence in a monotone thought pattern as to not pick out what it is exactly that is being spoken about. So IMO picking at the punctuation of what one does is trying to throw the topic off kilter and focus on something completely unrelated to the topic at hand!
 

Betsy Bee (1050)
Monday May 7, 2012, 2:11 pm
It is OK. I am sorry Carol and I am sorry Kate if I cause either of you or caused either of you any inconvenience by my effects to remove the offending commercial comment. I really campaign for the removal of these comments which detract from the debate and in 8 out of 10 cases are for pornographic web sites.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Monday May 7, 2012, 2:14 pm
No need to apologize to me Green Bee! I understood perfectly well what you were saying!! :-)
 

Kate R. (10)
Monday May 7, 2012, 9:06 pm
There is nothing to apologize about. Ads seem to be a problem to Care2. I hadn't seen any when I read your post, but then reading other articles, saw that this seemed to be a practice of people trying to sell things. I was not aware that this was something that occurred here on Care2.

Carol, you certainly are entitled to punctuate anyway you wish. Along with free speech, I am a free believer in free punctuation.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Tuesday May 8, 2012, 12:11 am
Kate..I have had 3 different Spam ads on my topics..I do think this was the one that had all of them. I won't swear to that but it sure does seem like it!! And thank you on being able to see that one has a right to express themselves however they see fit...preferably of course it's done in a sane manner! I only capitalize when I want to express something in particular. I never use capitalization for the purpose of yelling..it does no good other than to tick someone off and when you are trying to get a point across that just does not help the matter.
 
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