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'OBAMA IS TELLING KIDS, F--- YOUR PARENTS'


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Carol
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A newly compiled video exposes the chief "anti-bullying" activist endorsed by the Obama administration spewing an obscenity-laced, startling message to "gay" kids in America.



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Carol Dreeszen (365)
Friday November 2, 2012, 10:57 pm

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A newly compiled video exposes the chief “anti-bullying” activist endorsed by the Obama administration spewing an obscenity-laced, startling message to “gay” kids in America.

The White House website, under its “Civil Rights” section, includes links and videos recorded by Barack Obama, Joe Biden and others , supporting the mission of “gay” activist Dan Savage’s It Gets Better Project , an effort to help homosexual teens survive bullying during their teenage years.

But a recent video produced by the Faith Family Freedom Fund reveals Savage has touted the White House’s support as proof the president is backing his shocking message:

“That meant,” Savage says of Obama’s participation in his It Gets Better Project, “the president of the United States was telling queer kids, ‘There’s something wrong with your parents, there’s something wrong with your preachers, there’s something wrong with your teachers, and f— those people!’”

The video reveals Savage further blasting those who believe in Jesus as “spiritually abused,” wishing Republicans would die and referring to politically conservative Christians as “pieces of s—.”

The Faith Family Freedom Fund, which is a super PAC associated with the Family Research Council , or FRC, seeks to hold Obama accountable for its endorsement of Savage’s project.

“President Obama and his administration have opened the door for Dan Savage to students across America under the guise of ‘anti-bullying,’” J.P. Duffy, the FRC’s vice president for communications, told WND. “In reality, President Obama has created a bully czar through his support of Dan Savage.”

Savage’s history as an X-rated sex advice columnist and controversial public school assembly speaker has been well documented, including an incident from earlier this year, when Savage told a group of high school journalism students, “We can learn to ignore the bulls— in the Bible about gay people,” then taunted the teens who stood and walked out of his rant, calling them “pansy a–es” as they left.

But the Faith Family Freedom Fund video also reveals that Savage’s venom toward the Bible, Christians, Republicans and even liberals who don’t vote Democrat runs far deeper. Savage sound bites from the video include the following:

“Right-wing, bast—, fundamentalist, conservative, evangelical Christian pieces of s—”
“They have the Bibble [sic.]; they don’t have logic.”
“I wish [Republicans] we all f—ing dead”
“Any progressive who votes for a Green [Party candidate], anymore … is a f—ing idiot and should be beaten with sticks.”

In the past, Savage has had sharp words for the FRC, too, and for its president, Tony Perkins.

“Every dead gay kid’s a victory for the Family Research Council,” Savage said, as WND reported. “They argue the gay lifestyle is sick and sinful and dangerous and point to suicides … [then they] do everything in their power to make sure that suicide rate does not come down.

“Tony Perkins sits on a pile of dead gay kids every day when he goes to work,” Savage charged.

The FRC video concludes with the statement: “Parents bullied, churches bullied, science bullied – bullied by Obama’s bully. It’s gotta stop. … On November 6, stop the bullying; stop Obama.”
 

Jae A. (323)
Friday November 2, 2012, 11:52 pm
If any one group are bullying it's the rightwing evangelic/teabagger klan that are.....biggest bunch of homophobes/bullies in the U.S. ....which is something I ...as a gay man.... knows more about that this fricken 'backassswards' insane article.........IMO.
 

Carrie B. (306)
Saturday November 3, 2012, 5:38 am
Seeing some of the homophobic hate being spewed by care2 members is quite disturbing. May I suggest you focus on what is wrong with this type of posting rather trying to justify your hate and backward thinking?
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Saturday November 3, 2012, 9:08 am
Deny...Deny...Deny!!! The quite disturbing part Carrie comes from the fact this is all liberals do and then have the audacity to try and shove the blame onto the Conservatives!! Now THAT is sad!
 

Carrie B. (306)
Saturday November 3, 2012, 10:27 am
May I suggest that some of you who scream about denial take a look at the proven liar you are promoting as president. I notice none of you address the many lies Romney has not only told, but proven to be fiction. Racism and bigotry will not win this election. Neither will your hate and denial of facts.
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Saturday November 3, 2012, 5:21 pm
Well now when you Carrie say that Eomney is full of lies then I have to question it...for sure you don't know what you are saying and second of all this is what I would expect liberals to say..heck they've been saying it as long as I have seen them say anything! So it's really nothing new! Racism...bigotry...lies...bla..bla..bla...YUP! Same thing!
 

Heather O. (12)
Saturday November 3, 2012, 11:36 pm
I'm getting sick of bs stories like this.... I'll be glad when its over and the biggest liar Romney has lost.. Has anyone read into the Mormon religion from long ago, I do believe there is some racism in that background as well. I usually don't say things like that but things like this make me mad.
 

Cam V. (417)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 12:30 am
Obama said and did whatever he had to in order to try and get re-elected. I hope he fails as he has failed America these last four years.
 

Rick R. (5)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 12:38 am
This is GARBAGE. Posted on Youtube, so it must be true. Interesting editing going on there, void of context, This is of course the typical ploy used by right-wing groups. IN this case the FRC,Formerly known as:American Renewal.
FRC Action's Principal Issues:
"A renewal of ethical monotheism and traditional Judeo-Christian standards of morality— the "Laws of Nature and Nature's God"— to which the founding fathers appealed in the Declaration of Independence." (From FRCAction's mission statement.)
Pledges to fight until Roe v. Wade is repealed or reversed.
Judiciary— FRCAction fights for conservative "strict constructionist" appointments.
Rejects laws that give civil rights/civil liberties protections to gays and lesbians. Fights against laws that protect or recognize same-sex couples as a family."

In other words they are religious orthodox nutjobs. Extreme right-wingers that claim divine moral guidance from a diety that could only have been made up by 1st century psychopaths. Same bunch that thinks RAPE is an act of god. maybe we should let the rapist off? God did the raping.

Shove your moral arrogance and hypocrisy.
 

Cam V. (417)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 12:43 am
Sounds more like Obama needs his mouth washed out with soap to me. After all was he not the one who said Romney is a BS er but said the whole thing? So much for civility. Guess using foul language is a new attempt at manipulation. Real Presidential behaviour eh?
 

Giana Peranio-Paz (388)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 1:06 am
Stupid racist right winged idiots.
 

Cam V. (417)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 1:39 am
Back atcha Giana! Racist? That's all you got????
 

Lynn D. (0)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 3:03 am
Truly sad, thanks for article!
 

Gloria picchetti (291)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 3:41 am
This is just garbage. Shame on Carol. The post should be removed.
 

Mychael Lee (11)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 5:10 am
blah blah blah...come on, humans, get a life.
 

Mary S. (1)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 5:19 am
Carol D., think you should get out into the real world once in awhile. I still haven't figured out why Care 2 keeps printing your hate filled articles but then again, it takes all kinds.
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 8:44 am
Mary..It's called freedom of speech! You don't that!? Better be careful what you wish for!!

Mychael.....Come on liberals..believe something other than your live propaganda all the time...like the truth for once!!

Gloria..Thank You!!

Thanks Lynn! A voice of reason!! :-)

Agree'd Cam!!

Giana...Might help you to wake up!

Rick..SO there is nothing you believe on You Tube and you never watch You Tube videos....people like you are called a hypocrite! You will believe on You Tube what you want to believe but when it's something you don't want to believe and it's anything that shows some of the REAL extreme liberals then you don't believe it!! Nothing new there!!
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 9:56 am
Obama will really push anything to get re-elected. I hope he loses and goes back to teaching, that's where he will cause less harm.
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 10:14 am
I agree with you Bob on Obama doing anything to get himself re-elected! To tell you the truth I don't think I would even want him teaching my dog!!
 

Susanne R. (249)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 1:47 pm
Obama should have his mouth washed out with soap? Earth to Cam: those weren't Obama's words!

Maybe the title of this post should be changed so that it has some basis in reality. Personally, I think
'CONSERVATIVE HYPOCRITES HIDING BEHIND RELIGION ARE TELLING KIDS, F--- OBAMA' would be a much more honest title. This video was made and financed by the Faith Family Freedom Fund, a political action committee associated with Family Research Council Action. Yes, a Republican PAC.

Perhaps the members of the Faith Family Freedom Fund should have their mouths washed out with soap. They're the one's lying and using foul language to influence voters. Fortunately for reasonable people, this is the 21st century and most of us are aware of life's realities and are able to accept them without judging those affected by them.

Gays have been subjected to the worst hate crimes imaginable due, in no small part, to this type of hate propaganda. Republicans use it to influence voters, as evidenced by the fact that they've spent a lot of money to produce such propaganda. At some point, it has to stop. It's cruel and divisive and inspires and condones hate crimes.

This video is dishonest and shameful. That it was made by Christians makes it all the more ironic and insulting.
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 9:16 pm
Maybe the title of this post should be changed so that it has some basis in reality.

Susanne...Do you REALLY think the way SOME liberals talk that is even possible! This is liberal talk...nobody else said this but liberal backing scum!! And the Religion bit is getting SO old too...it's the same bellyaching comments that we see from some liberals...word for word! Looks like you are on of them!! ;-)
 

Susanne R. (249)
Monday November 5, 2012, 7:30 am
Yes, Carol, I'm proud to say that I am a liberal. I don't condone bullying gays, tying them to the backs of trucks and dragging them through the streets until their limbs become separated from their bodies, or tying them to fences after beating them senseless and leaving them there to die, or making their school experience and social lives a living hell to the point that they end their misery by committing suicide. I'm horrified by such actions! A young gay teen who went to the same high school my own kids attended many years prior was driven to suicide by the constant torment inflicted upon him by his classmates. And guess what? Before he was even buried, they turned on his sister in her time of grief! And if you think these tormenters and murderers don't use foul language, you're sadly mistaken. And the title leads one to believe that President Obama was the one who used that language, which is an outright lie.

To me, loving one's neighbor as one's self is what Christianity is all about --and that isn't possible unless one is accepting of his neighbor's differences.
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Monday November 5, 2012, 1:56 pm
Susanne..You are seeing this I think in one way only..the liberal way by lump summing EVERYONE who is not liberal into being the hateful gay bashing murderers that you want so badly to claim them as and you are wrong!! I do not condone anything you stated above towards gays...and guess what!? I am not even a liberal...anymore!! Does this shock you or are you still going to put that claim on me like you are doing to everyone else who does not feel the way you claim them to feel!? I have nothing against gays!! But I am a firm believer that the marriage act is one between a man and a woman and that is the way God intended it to be...like it or not! One does not have to agree with the way some feel is the proper way to show respect or love for gays in order to have it be real.....can you ever imagine that!? What you are saying here is I have to agree with the way you think and feel about gays in order to prove to you that I am not against gays and on that you are so wrong!! It seems though that the way you and many others think and feel that this is something that is INSISTED on everyone doing....WRONG again! Loving ones neighbor as one self has NOTHING to do with agreeing or not agreeing with gay agenda's. One does not have to agree with a gay agenda to prove they don't hate gays...that is insane to think that way! I know gays and I don't hate them in the least! They are wonderful people!! That does not mean I have to or should go against my beliefs in God and Gods words in order to satisfy some peoples opinions!!
 

Susanne R. (249)
Tuesday November 6, 2012, 6:34 am
Carol, I think you need to re-read my comments. I didn't put any claim on you. The examples of cruelty that I cited happened, and the people who committed them are the guilty parties. Groups like the Faith Family Freedom Fund are keeping the hatred alive and well. The title of the post is not just misleading --it's simply not true. As I stated in my previous comment, this video was made and financed by the Faith Family Freedom Fund (FFFF), a political action committee associated with Family Research Council Action --a Republican PAC. Gays are being physically and mentally tormented all the time. Groups like the FFFF lead people to believe that gays deserve such treatment, so they're guilty of keeping the flame of hatred alive which only serves to make the abuse continue.

This isn't a "me" vs. "you" thing, Carol, and I think you know that. I have no intention of being pulled into that trap. I'm still very upset over the fact that a 14-year old boy took his own life rather than face another day of being bullied and tormented at school, in his social life outside of school, and while involved in social networking. I'm still upset that his sister had to endure being tormented by peers who told her that they were glad her brother was dead while she was dealing with the worst tragedy of her life. If the fact that some people had different sexual orientations than others could be accepted, this problem would cease to exist.

I hope I've made myself perfectly clear, I reiterate: This isn't a "me" vs. "you" thing, Carol, and I think you know that. I have no intention of being pulled into that trap.
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Tuesday November 6, 2012, 8:54 am
Groups like the Faith Family Freedom Fund are keeping the hatred alive and well. The title of the post is not just misleading --it's simply not true.

This is where you are completely wrong,,,groups like this are the ones who call out the liberals on their double standard BS...see you only see the picture through YOUR eyes....trust me there are 2 sides to a coin! And the title of the article IS in fact true....just because he does not come out and directly say something does not mean he is NOT saying it INDIRECTLY! it helps to have a view that is not so blind sided!

Groups like the FFFF lead people to believe that gays deserve such treatment, so they're guilty of keeping the flame of hatred alive which only serves to make the abuse continue.

Oh Boy!! On this accusation here you are TOTALLY wrong and no wonder there are so many liberals who jump all over those who believe in God and Religion! Good Lord if this isn't a huge flame thrower I don't know what is!!! Why do you have it in your mind that a group like this are the culprits when it's a fact the liberal agenda is to get God out of everything except where THEY want him to be put!?!? You see it's ideas that that which I find so pathetically sad it's depressing! You want to talk about keeping the flame of hatred alive Susanne...there is no one in this country that does that better than the liberals!! When YOUR president (he's not mine) tells me that I have to pay for abortions to murder innocent lives when I am dead set against murdering innocence and he thinks he can bullie everyone into doing this when they are totally against it...THAT is where the flame of hatred is kept alive and well but you can't see it!!! No Susanne....the liberal side of the coin is where all of the hatred and division come from! When YOU have a President that tells people to vote for REVENGE and not love of country....THAT is where the flame of division and hatred comes from!!! REVENGE!?!? This is why we should VOTE!?!? What kind of sick mind is it that would bring something like this out and then on top of it the same man who has passed gay agendas in his administration because he IS a gay...a GREAT conflict of interest there too!! You can say what you want about the Conservatives being the blame for the hatred Susanne but you are completely 100% WRONG!!

If you are not blaming me then why bring this kind of a comment to an article that is a fact..who exactly are you blaming besides of course the person or organization that you say brought this article up!? Which you made the accusation of being the ones who keep spreading the hatred when they are in fact tnot the reason for the hatred. Which by the way I support so my assumption is if I support them then you are also against me...correct!? Maybe I am wrong on this though!?
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Tuesday November 6, 2012, 8:59 am
The examples of cruelty that I cited happened, and the people who committed them are the guilty parties.

This would be true Susanne but then why not specify that in your above statement instead of leaving it a general one in order to leave people hanging as far as the meaning of who you are directing your comment to!? As I said the Faith Family Freedom Fund is not the guilty party for promoting hate....maybe you should check into exactly what it is they believe in and what exactly that they do before throwing accusations like you did against them!? That is slandering a good name IMO!
 

Susanne R. (249)
Wednesday November 7, 2012, 12:02 am
You said: "What kind of sick mind is it that would bring something like this out and then on top of it the same man who has passed gay agendas in his administration because he IS a gay...a GREAT conflict of interest there too!!"

It's very late and I'm very tired because I stayed up to watch President Obama's acceptance speech, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but am I reading your words correctly? Are you saying that President Obama is gay?

You said: "If you are not blaming me then why bring this kind of a comment to an article that is a fact..who exactly are you blaming besides of course the person or organization that you say brought this article up!"

Well, since YOU brought it up, Carol, please do a little soul-searching and then explain what you intended to achieve when you posted this video. When you click on the YouTube link, the video has an entirely different title: "Dan Savage: Obama's Bully-In-Chief." Where did the title that appears above come from?
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Wednesday November 7, 2012, 1:31 pm
Susanne...Yes I am saying President Obama is gay...have you heard about the 2 gays in Chicago who were murdered because they were going to come out and let the people know what Obama was!? If not I suggest you do some searching on it..you would be astounded! There is so much information out there on him about this issue that if you have not searched it out you owe it to yourself to do so!

I intended to get the truth out Susanne! The name on the video was the name on the article that lead TO the video so I didn't chage anything..I added on what the title was only!
 

Susanne R. (249)
Wednesday November 7, 2012, 9:01 pm
That's about all I can take. This has escalated to nonsense, and if I continue this "back-and-forth," it will never end. Goodbye, Carol.
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Wednesday November 7, 2012, 9:15 pm
Susanne..you asked me questions..I told you answers...they were apparently not the answers you wanted to hear so you call it nonsense...I have heard this a lot for liberals. Can you see where the mis-communication comes from between liberals and Conservatives!? Good Bye!!
 

Kit B. (276)
Thursday November 8, 2012, 11:42 am

Poor Carol - no psychologists in Alaska? Poor baby, you do need some serious help. The reason you hear, often that what you submit and the things you say are nonsense is because people are being kind. They don't want to say you are nuts, crazy, down right stupid, deeply consumed by every looney fringe conspiracy out there, a fruit cake, delusional, psychotic, a baying at the moon lunatic...that wouldn't be nice. So those mean, nasty awful liberals just say it's nonsense.

I'm sorry Rush is married, what a great couple you two would make.
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Thursday November 8, 2012, 12:04 pm
Kit....See how you talk down to people!? See how negative you are with all the names you call somebody trying to make it look like you don't..wow! You better look in the mirror gal! A typical liberal loonie!
 

Kit B. (276)
Thursday November 8, 2012, 1:44 pm

I don't know Carol the other one was a joke, farce, satire, humor and you didn't know that...this could be as well. You may have been sucker again!!! Though frankly my dear, who gives a damn?

You think I'm liberal, but you don't really know a thing about me. - Here is a hint...I don't read the crazy stuff you "offer" or watch the wacky videos - there are real things on Care2. You just make it too easy to mock the silliness that you follow as REAL news...and then don't even know when it is satire. Thanks ,for the great laugh today!
 

pam w. (191)
Thursday November 8, 2012, 2:06 pm
Garbage....garbage....garbage!

Thank you for admitting that YOUR OTHER POST WAS A HOAX! Why not admit the same about THIS one?

For the last four years, people have tried to paint President Obama with every evil stripe possible...and it doesn't work.

He's NOT a Muslim....he's NOT a Kenyan....he's a decent, intelligent, principled man who, given the chance to govern without the salacious lies and slanders of people like Rove & Trump, et. all....can be a great President.

And now THIS? Hinting that he's gay? How low can you go? REALLY.....HOW LOW CAN YOU GO? Not that there's a THING wrong with being gay....but, obviously, YOU think so....and you're willing to apply that label in a public forum where his wife and children could see it..

Hardly intelligent, adult or even remotely humane.

Time for the conspiracists and the disgruntled, bitter Republicans to shut up and act like AMERICANS.

That means jump in and cooperate.

It means stop letting the rabid little tail of the religious "right" wag your entire dog.

It means find what you can do to help and DO IT!

Or is that asking too much? Is your heart so twisted with hatred against this man that it's consuming YOU?

 

Kit B. (276)
Thursday November 8, 2012, 2:33 pm

You just might have to hand over a dictionary, Pam so they could Look Up American. It's been clear for years now they haven't the first clue.

I didn't like Mister Bush...in fact I didn't like him before he was elected Governor and then watched in horror as led his stupid followers down the yellow brick road of fantasy. I never said a word while he was in office, I have too much respect for this country and the office of the Presidency. Some thing you, and your rapidly declincing numbers of Tea baggers could learn - real, honest patriotism.
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Thursday November 8, 2012, 3:30 pm
You see Pam and Kit..this is the kind of respect that you show Republicans that is the reason we have NO respect for you! And The difference is with Conservatives and liberals is we admit a mistake when we make on unlike the narcissist in chief in the White House who tries to lie his way out of it. As in his claim of leaving no one behind except for if they can prove he was doing criminal actions...then he will sit in real time and watch them being murdered!!! You certainly try and make yourselves and your fellow liberals look like saints all the time not accepting accountability!!! And the way you come out with your fangs showing spewing out the angry language just proves how totally unable to work across the isle you are! The only working across the isle liberals want done is "DO IT MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY!!!" A very depressing and selfish lot you are!!
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Thursday November 8, 2012, 3:37 pm
Pam..you are so far up Obama's you know what that you can't see the light of day so I would not expect ANYTHING from you that proves you are not biased in the least because you lips and mouth are colored red from the kool aid!! And then you also have the mentality that some liberals have also which is you are not liberal and I don't agree with you so you are not and can not and will not EVER be able to be a friend of mine...you have proven this many times!! Such a narrow minded blind view and so sad you limit your integrity so much thinking like this! So much you are missing out of life! Life is not like a bowl of apples or oranges or cherries...life is like a bowl of mixed fruit and they are all good!! It's sad to see someone limit their ability to see a wider world view that can be filled with more joy because of being narrow minded!!
 

pam w. (191)
Thursday November 8, 2012, 4:33 pm
Nice, Carol.....and exactly what I'd expect from someone who has no LOGICAL facts to quote....only insults, denials and more insults.

(Say......reminds me of some other people who used to be here at Care2.....)
 

Cam V. (417)
Thursday November 8, 2012, 5:22 pm
I dunno. I have seen a lot of wacky videos and the guy in the video Carol posted is pretty looney with what he is saying in there. I was not a huge Bush fan either until 911 and I give him great kudos for that.
 

Angelica C. (84)
Monday November 19, 2012, 10:54 am
Dan Savage - what did he do? Did he say "vagina" and "penis" instead of "your special place?"
 

Cam V. (417)
Monday November 19, 2012, 4:14 pm
This represented the Obama machine Carol. What can they say to defend it???? Nothing.
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Monday November 19, 2012, 10:39 pm
Exactly Cam!!! It's not even worth the breath used to try and explain to them because it's like beating your head against a wall..at least by doing that you feel something out of it!! The Obama lovers are so sunk in BS there is no hope for them at all!! When they start paying out of their pockets day after day for this worthless scum then and only then will they understand!
 

Angelica C. (84)
Tuesday November 20, 2012, 8:02 am
Did you just call the president of the United States "worthless scum?"

Because if you did, that, in my opinion, is treason. I mean yes, we have freedom of speech. But hate speech like this - there are laws against it.
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Tuesday November 20, 2012, 1:43 pm
Angie..If you want to talk about treason how about Benghazi!? Now that is REAL treason...haven't heard you saying anything about that though!! And 4 people are dead all the while the liar in chief sat and watched them brutally murdered!! Give it a break!!
 

Angelica C. (84)
Wednesday November 21, 2012, 3:20 am
How can you say that when all the facts haven't come out yet about Benghazi? Why don't we all wait and listen and learn everything we can before we make up our minds about that. Petraeus - did you hear McCain on that testimony?
It's nice to be posting with you again, Carol. The title of this piece, though, seems a little over the top. Is that literally what the president is telling kids to go tell their parents? I missed that in the article.
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Friday November 23, 2012, 10:30 pm
You know Angie seems like I have said that before when you went ahead and made accusations about Treyvon and the other guy...forget his name now...remember that!? Did you wait to call the guy who was attacked by Treyvon the one who was guilty!? Nope! You sure didn't but now you think it's a good idea!? I tell ya what...if you can't see the traitor, lies, deceit and corruption that happened in Benghazi by now and are still trying to convince others that what they have seen is not enough to make an informed decision as to what went on there then you are not as smart as you claim to be.And I am not saying that to be smart or anything like it! But I find it irresponsible for ANYONE who has been following this case along to even come up with the thought of not being able to see exactly what happened. Only one who does not want to admit that something is not right here that can see it themself would say something like that in order to try and cover it up...hell that is what has happened since the beginning of this! It's all been a huge lying cover-up!!!

As far as what Obama tells kids or parents for that matter he has said MANY very disturbing things and he is quite capable of saying things that mean exactly what was said above. Remember his vote for revenge statement...now WHAT does that mean and why would any President say something so stupid as that if he wasn't trying to rile up the forces!? I am sure the title of this would be over the top for you seeing as how you support Obama...I have seen many statement made by liberals that are degrading, mocking and the list goes on....as in calling Sarah Palin names by various liberals...Michelle Bachman and the list goes on...did we hear anything at all from liberals who always seem to be so concerned when a Republican says something then!? Not on your life!!! So the only thing I could say to this I guess is try not be so holier than thou because there are many liberals who really need an attitude adjustment on many things! It's nice talking to you again too...it's just very unfortunate I see you still have not gained the wisdom to make correct choices for politicians! Also I see the Unions busting the country more too...good work on the unions! Pretty soon the whole damn country should be out of work because people can't afford to pay what the Unions are trying to get for people plus benefits....do any of them have a lick of common sense!? I don't think so!! And it won't stop until they have the whole country broke..worse than it is now! Wanna bet!?
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Friday November 23, 2012, 10:34 pm
Ohhh..And on Petraeus...I think the conclusion that it was major lies pretty well says it when he said "right from the start he knew it was a terrorist's action!" That kind of turned his original story that he and everyone else lied about as far as this was a spontaneous action from a You Tube video against Islam all to hell I think!! Don't you!?
 

Angelica C. (84)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 6:41 am
What I said then is what I say now about Trayvon Martin's death: he was an unarmed teen who was minding his own business and for that he was killed by a bored vigilante who was looking for some action. This bored vigilante also IGNORED THE POLICE DISPATCHER'S ORDER FOR HIM NOT TO GET OUT OF HIS CAR. The only logical conclusion is that he wanted an altercation with Martin. That is what he sought and that is what he got. I believe that makes him guilty of murder. That is what I said, and that is what I stand by today.

We do not have enough information to make an informed decision on Benghazi. For example, we do not know why the intelligence community decided to delete all references to terrorist organizations from their briefings for approximately 11 days after the event. I think we should know why this information was withheld and how far up the chain this went.

It is a lot of fun, I am sure, to make pointed, yet thinly veiled statements with no facts attached to them, such as, "Obama has said many disturbing things." It is yet another to clarify statements like that with facts and examples. I see that you have provided neither in your post.

"Vote for Revenge" simply means, to me, that through our votes, out voices will be heard. If we don't like being disenfranchised by the GOP for our race, our gender, our religions or the lack thereof, or our economic status, then we can vote to express our anger. Obviously, this is not what you think it means. But you haven't specifically come right out to say what you think that statement means.

To accuse me of not having the "wisdom to make correct choices" is to imply that you already know everything there is to know. Therefore, what you are concluding is that it will do no good to even have a discussion with you. One cannot be expected to reason with someone who has closed their mind to the subject.

Finally, I will say that the behavior of republicans since the election borders on treason in many respects. And I will also say that Palin and Bachmann have nothing to do with this thread. If you are angry about the public perception of these two politicians, write an article about it. I'll be happy to comment.

But, going back to your accusation that Obama tried to rile up the forces, what was it that Palin was doing in 2008 when she would spur the crowds at her rallies to scream "Death to Obama?"

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