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Orcas Circle Ferry Transporting Tribal Artifacts to Bainbridge Island


Society & Culture  (tags: orcas, killerwhales, bainbridgeIsland, ChiefSeattle, Suquamish, Washingtonferries, tribalartifacts )

BMutiny
- 317 days ago - seattletimes.com
A large pod of orcas swam around a Washington state ferry in an impressive display as it happened to be carrying tribal artifacts to a new museum at the ancestral home of Chief Seattle, and some people think it was more than a coincidence. [31 Oct. 2013]



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BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 12:55 am
A large pod of orcas swam around a Washington state ferry in an impressive display as it happened to be carrying tribal artifacts to a new museum at the ancestral home of Chief Seattle, and some people think it was more than a coincidence.

Killer whales have been thrilling whale watchers this week in Puget Sound, according to the Orca Network, which tracks sightings.

But they were especially exciting Tuesday when nearly three dozen orcas surrounded the ferry from Seattle as it approached the terminal on Bainbridge Island. On board were officials from The Burke Museum in Seattle who were moving ancient artifacts to the Suquamish Museum.

The artifacts were dug up nearly 60 years ago from the site of the Old Man House in Kitsap County, the winter village for the Suquamish tribe and home of Chief Sealth, also known as Chief Seattle. The Burke, a natural-history museum on the University of Washington campus, is known for Northwest Coast and Alaska Native art.

Also on board the state ferry was Suquamish Tribal Chairman Leonard Forsman, who happened to be returning from an unrelated event. As the ferry slowed near the terminal, it was surrounded by the orcas, Forsman said Wednesday.

“They were pretty happily splashing around, flipping their tails in the water,” he said. “We believe they were welcoming the artifacts home as they made their way back from Seattle, back to the reservation.”

The killer whales have been in Puget Sound feeding on a large run of chum salmon, he said.

“We believe the orcas took a little break from their fishing to swim by the ferry, to basically put a blessing on what we were on that day,” he said.

Forsman believes there’s a spiritual tie between the tribe and the orcas. “They are fishermen like we are,” he said.

It was an auspicious arrival for about 500 artifacts that The Burke Museum had held for nearly 60 years, Suquamish Museum Director Janet Smoak said.

They include tools, decorative items and bits of bone and rock that date back 2,000 years.

The Old Man House — the largest known longhouse on the Salish Sea — was located at Suquamish on the shore of Agate Passage, about 13 miles northwest of Seattle. Chief Sealth, for whom Seattle is named, is buried there.

The longhouse was burned down by the U.S. government in the late 1800s. The artifacts were collected by a University of Washington archaeological investigation in the 1950s, according to the Burke Museum.

In 2012, the tribe completed its new museum, which includes a climate-controlled environment. The artifacts will be displayed to illustrate Suquamish culture in an exhibit called Ancient Shores Changing Tides.

Everyone was talking about the orcas at the Tuesday museum-blessing ceremony and feast, Smoak said.

“Everyone was really excited and moved by the event,” she said.

The orcas, identified from their markings as members of the J and K pods, were seen this week along several routes between the Seattle area and the west side of Puget Sound, according to Howard Garrett of the Orca Network at Freeland, Island County.

He thought their intersection with the ferry carrying tribal artifacts was uncanny.

“I can’t rule out somehow they could pick up on the mental energy that there is something special there. Or it could be a coincidence,” he said. “I don’t know.”
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 1:06 am
WOW!!!!!!!!
Orcas are not only intelligent - they are MYSTIC!

Please Sign, whenever you encounter them, ALL Petitions to
Keep Orcas OUT of exploitative "tourist attractions"
{and all Cetaceans and Sea Mammals likewise};
Keep ALL Cetaceans from being killed by Humans, whether for "food" or for phoney "scientific research" or just "tradition";

AND,
RETURN Native American {or Aboriginal} artifacts that are sacred or essential to their Heritage, if they ask for them. Theft by a Museum with "good intentions" is STILL THEFT.

I am sure people on Care2 sign such Petitions and work for such outcomes ANYWAY; this is just as a REMINDER. Tell your friends on other Networks, too! Thank you.

This is incredibly beautiful.....
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 1:32 am
In the picture, if you can see it larger:
Yes, that is a POD of Orcas, blowing water out of their air-holes {just as whales do - thar she blows!}.
[Cetaceans are MAMMALS and breath AIR - they have to come to the surface to do so.]

And, yes, that IS THE CITY OF SEATTLE in the background. [Where I live, incidentally.]

And, yes, THAT PICTURE WAS TAKEN FROM A FERRY.
We are rarely Blessed....!!!
[See the picture better at the site.]
 

SuSanne P. (182)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 4:27 am
Thank you for posting such a Lovely story Barbara.
Personally I don't believe in coincidences, and am quite touched by these remarks of Suquamish Tribal Chairman Leonard Forsman,
“They were pretty happily splashing around, flipping their tails in the water,” he said. “We believe they were welcoming the artifacts home as they made their way back from Seattle, back to the reservation.”
“We believe the orcas took a little break from their fishing to swim by the ferry, to basically put a blessing on what we were on that day,” he said.
These words have great meanings of truth to me though.
I spent a year living in Orcas Island in the Puget Sound back in 1974. I attended the Polarity Health Institute (for personal Healing and studying) which I believe is now in L.A. We took a boat each week for supplies at a nearby town which I don't recall the name and never saw one orca. It is a very powerful area, at least that was my impression at the time.

 

Dandelion G. (382)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 6:46 am
Having walked a Red Road for many winters now I've seen many an honoring by our relatives that many people do not understand are our relatives. Mitakuye Oyasin, We are all Related We are Related to All.

Here is a photo of the museum that these tribal artifacts will remain with.
The Suquamish Museum
 

Angelika R. (143)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 7:17 am
Thx for sharing this amazing story, I agree with those who don't believe it was incidently. I went to the orca network page in hope to read more about it and see more pics, but nothing there.
 

Dotti Lydon (116)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 7:45 am
Thank you Barbara for bringing us this story. It is the first I had heard of it as I do not subscribe to the Seattle Times. And Dandelion, thanks for the link to the Museum picture. I don't get around very much, but will make a point of going to the Museum.
 

tasunka m. (334)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 7:48 am
PROBABLY BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE SENSITIVE THAN WE ARE
great story.........SOOOOOO WAKAN (HOLY IN LAKOTA)
 

SusanAWAYaWEEK Allen (221)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 9:04 am
Noted and shared. What a wonderful story.
 

Elena Echandi (47)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 12:07 pm
GREAT STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 1:31 pm
"Also on board the state ferry was Suquamish Tribal Chairman Leonard Forsman, who happened to be returning from an unrelated event. As the ferry slowed near the terminal, it was surrounded by the orcas, Forsman said Wednesday."
If you don't believe in Coincidences.....!

A little more -
the Suquamish tribe also made a stir recently, when their Tribal Council approved - unanimously! - Same-sex marriage for tribal members. {BEFORE Washington State did!} One of maybe a dozen tribes recently to do so. Same-sex marriage was in the TRADITIONS recorded in over 500 tribes by early European contacts {and probably existed in even more!}.

The Suquamish AND the Duwamish tribes, are BOTH "the people of Chief Seattle", since both had residences on lands now covered by the city of Seattle and its suburbs; and both recognized Sealth as an authoritative person. However, the Duwamish tribe is not YET recognized as a Tribal Entity by the Federal Government. It has been a long slow process with many setbacks and near-misses. No doubt there will be artifacts from other Salish tribes in the Museum on Bainbridge Island.

The Seattle Art Museum several years ago, returned many of its "stolen", appropriated artifacts to the various tribes. As a result, the SAM Native American exhibit gallery, now is filled out by many "modern" pieces of art by Native Americans, donated recently and voluntarily!

THIRTY-SIX Orcas at once - that is three dozen! - and SURROUNDING the Ferry - that is just UNHEARD OF!!!
This is just mind-boggling!
I notice they surrounded the Ferry as it SLOWED to disembark - they didn't risk getting run over by it!
Utterly amazed. Will always be!

Thank you for the PICTURE of the Museum, Dandelion! Lovely building.
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 1:55 pm
"The Suquamish have persevered despite attempts by the federal government to assimilate them through land policy; especially the allotment of the reservation into separate parcels assigned to family heads in 1886, the destruction of Old Man House village and scattering of the tribal settlement in 1904, and the mandatory attendance of Suquamish children at Indian Boarding Schools from 1900-1920. [GAGGG!]
The Suquamish presently are experiencing a cultural resurgence and are planning to begin construction of a new community house in the tradition of Old-Man-House. We continue to exercise their treaty rights to fish and gather shellfish. We are exercising our ancient right to self-governance..."

This is from the Suquamish site - and THANK YOU AGAIN, DANDELION, for guiding me to the picture of the new MUSEUM, and from THERE to the "History" page of the Suquamish!
And I DO recommend that EVERYBODY go to the Suquamish site. {The link to the Museum makes it EASY!!!}
That is the BEST BRIEF SUMMARY I have seen anywhere {not surprising!} of the History of Chief Seattle and his People.

Really, EVERYBODY needs to see that!!! Puts this whole thing IN CONTEXT...
Dandelion's Link to the Museum Picture, then go to "History" at the top of that page.....!
 

Yvonne White (232)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 2:40 pm
VERY Cool!:) I'm glad the artifacts are back with their maker's descendants!
 

Yvonne White (232)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 2:44 pm
Thanks Dandelion for the Museum pic link!:)
Anyone else having problems giving green stars to anyone except the news article poster??? This has been going on for a month now!! I can give a star to the original poster, but none to commenters..:(
 

Susanne R. (249)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 10:12 pm
Coincidence? I think not!

"Coincidence is the word we use when we can't see the levers and pulleys."

~Emma Bull

Great post! Thanks, Barbara!
 

Peggy Johnson (1)
Friday November 8, 2013, 3:29 am
Great story! Who knows? Maybe there is a special significance to this occurrence ..... When I was younger I was more apt to reject stories like this as just a coincidence -- but now that I am considerably older I have experienced enough unusual and provocative incidents that I have a much broader view of these things --
 

Dogan Ozkan (5)
Friday November 8, 2013, 3:59 am
noted thank you for sharing
 

Jonathan Harper (0)
Friday November 8, 2013, 4:29 am
noted
 

Kath P. (10)
Friday November 8, 2013, 4:30 am
I believe that they knew what was going on. Must have been a very moving event to watch. Thanks for the in-depth article.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday November 8, 2013, 4:44 am
I N S P I R A T I O N A L ! ! ! :-)
 

Tanya W. (51)
Friday November 8, 2013, 4:49 am
Noted, lovely thanks.
 

Fi T. (16)
Friday November 8, 2013, 5:02 am
Miracle of life
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Friday November 8, 2013, 6:41 am
You are all very welcome for the link to the Museum. I was in hopes once opened that maybe one would find of interest other offerings of the website, for yes, it offers a lot of interesting information.
 

Marija Mohoric (50)
Friday November 8, 2013, 1:05 pm
noted, tks
 

Connie O. (42)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 8:20 am
What a very interesting and awe inspiring story. Thank you.
 

Birgitta S. (231)
Monday November 11, 2013, 2:56 am
noted; TY, BM ~ & TY Dimitris for forwarding
 

Ros G. (91)
Monday November 11, 2013, 3:13 am
Thanks for the forward Dimitris...Science has proven.."there is no such thing as coincidence"
 

John Holton (364)
Monday November 11, 2013, 3:18 am
S and N
 

Ana R (220)
Monday November 11, 2013, 4:10 am
...♥
noted with thanks
 

Bridget Robertson (106)
Monday November 11, 2013, 6:30 am
Noted. Great story. Thanks. And thank you Dimitris for the forward.
 

Victoria Oakey (115)
Monday November 11, 2013, 6:36 am
Noted. Thank you so much for this information, I love Whales and Chief Seattle.
 

Laetitia SCHARTNER (172)
Monday November 11, 2013, 6:47 am
great story, I love orcas so much! TY for sharing
 

Terrie Williams (770)
Monday November 11, 2013, 8:26 am
They have bigger brains and bigger hearts than we ever will. Their souls are closer to perfection than ours ever will be. Wonderful story. Thanks for the forward, Dimitrus!
 

Pat B. (354)
Thursday November 14, 2013, 11:08 am
What a great article/story, thank YOU, for the comments also.
 

Birgit W. (144)
Thursday November 14, 2013, 11:31 am
Amazing, I believe that this was a special sign. Thanks for sharing.
 

. (0)
Thursday November 14, 2013, 12:12 pm
Thanks for the amazing story BMutiny. Like others, I don't believe in coincidence
 

anonymous X. (93)
Thursday November 14, 2013, 1:08 pm
Thanks for sharing
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (273)
Thursday November 14, 2013, 2:25 pm
Wonderful BM
 

Lois Jordan (56)
Thursday November 14, 2013, 4:08 pm
Noted. Thanks so much for posting, BMutiny...and Dandelion for the link.
So nice to read something that gave me a long-lasting smile! We are all inter-connected. I believe that we can communicate spiritually with nature, as it also communicates with us. This was an absolutely beautiful thing to happen.
 

Donn M. (1)
Thursday November 14, 2013, 10:23 pm
A touching story. Completely coincidental of course, but fun to believe anyway. I think it's nice when a museum voluntarily returns artifacts, particularly if they will be going to another museum, but they have no obligation to do so.
 

Dmitry Nikiforov (236)
Friday November 15, 2013, 1:17 am
thank you
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Friday November 15, 2013, 3:56 am
A great story. Thanks BMutiny for sharing. Thanks Cheryl for drawing my attention to it.
 

Jennifer C. (172)
Friday November 15, 2013, 5:20 am
Thanks.
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Friday November 15, 2013, 7:33 am
No Obligation? Depends on how one wants to view it I suppose. When things are stolen, doesn't one have an obligation to it being returned? Remember everything is connected from the first spark of existence, we all arose from our same Mother - the Earth - We are All One.....connected living and breathing from the same Spirit, that is the same Creator. Do you think that Supreme Spirit can not speak through everything that exists, includes orcas?
 

Past Member (0)
Friday November 15, 2013, 8:09 am
Thanks BMutiny and Dandelion for the forward. The Cetaceans are the keepers of the Light of Earth...as were Native Americans and other indigenous peoples who lived in harmony with Gaia...before greed took over the planet. There are no "coincidences".
 

Irene S. (62)
Friday November 15, 2013, 12:46 pm
Amazing and fascinating, thsnk you for posting!
 

Elizabeth M. (67)
Friday November 15, 2013, 3:58 pm
What a terrific story!!! Thank you for sharing BMutiny and Dandelion for the link. I truly believe that this was no coincidence, that every living thing is connected, and Chief Seattle being a great fisherman, and true believer of Mother Earth the Great Spirit was being honored by the Orcas. It is so nice to see these artifacts returned to Chief Seattles descendants.
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Saturday November 16, 2013, 10:17 am
From the Suquamish site that Dandelion's post up above, has a LINK to:
"The Suquamish have persevered despite attempts by the federal government to assimilate them through land policy; especially the allotment of the reservation into separate parcels assigned to family heads in 1886, the destruction of Old Man House village and scattering of the tribal settlement in 1904, and the mandatory attendance of Suquamish children at Indian Boarding Schools from 1900-1920.....
The Suquamish presently are experiencing a cultural resurgence and are planning to begin construction of a new community house in the tradition of Old-Man-House. We continue to exercise their treaty rights to fish and gather shellfish. We are exercising our ancient right to self-governance..."

For those not familiar with Northwest Indian customs:
THIS is the SIGNIFICANCE of the BURNING of the Old Man Long House - from which the artifacts were dug up and taken to the Burke Museum, from which they are being taken BACK to the Suquamish Tribe:
Native Americans in this part of the country, traditionally lived in LONG HOUSES, made of timber {not buffalo-hide tents or teepees as the Plains Indians did}. Timber was a plentiful resource, and they had stone axes and lots of patience! The long houses were as the name implies, VERY long houses, with SEVERAL FAMILIES living in each, with partitions between family units. Made sense for CONSERVATION OF RESOURCES, such as heating during long, cold, wet winters here - and SHARING - also sharing things like storytelling, dancing, singing, making art and ceremonies, during the long winters! That's SHARING OF RESOURCES, too!!!

So you can see from that, that the BURNING OF THE OLD MAN HOUSE {its name}, and the "attempts by the federal government to assimilate them through land policy; especially the allotment of the reservation into separate parcels assigned to family heads in 1886," was nothing less than an ATTEMPT TO WIPE OUT THE CULTURE, totally. All that dancing, singing, ceremonies including potlatches where rich people GAVE STUFF AWAY, were offensive to the Christian missionaries that ran the schools the children were FORCED to attend. No more voluntary Communal living! Everybody in separate, badly-built leaky houses! Get pneumonia and die!
And THIS is the significance of the Suquamish going to REBUILD THEIR LONG HOUSE, at least as a symbol, if not to live there! and the RETURN OF THE ARTIFACTS taken from the site of the GOVERNMENT-BURNED-DOWN LONG HOUSE!
Now you have the background...! Another reason why this is THRILLING...!
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Saturday November 16, 2013, 10:42 am
Note: The Long Houses were for the Winters, more cold & wet than snowy in this part of the country, altho we have snow too.
During the spring and summer, the Native Americans moved around, to temporary camps where the FOOD was, to fishing camps, to where berries were to be picked, etc. Food was preserved at these camp sites, for the Winters when people stayed in the Long Houses.
Their lifestyle made PERFECT ECOLOGICAL SENSE, of course. In the Winters you weren't ISOLATED if the weather was really bad outside, if you ran out of any necessities, if you were just plain bored, etc.
Winters were looked forward to as the really "fun" and leisure and social times! When all the Traditions were kept and passed on... Storytelling was a huge part of this, and that is how the Children were educated, also their "moral" training...
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Saturday November 16, 2013, 10:59 am
Indeed my friend, there is so much to learn and the basic concepts of all the American Indian Nations were the same. Sharing, Caring, and Conservation of the Resources. It was a society based on mutual love and respect toward not only each other, but their non human relatives be they animal, fish, plants, or birds. Each had it's own unique purpose for Being and even when a fish was caught, they understood that supreme sacrifice the fish did give of itself so that they may eat that day.

Is why the American Indians honored the other life forms by dance, song, in paintings, and as the people of the plains did, used every bit of the buffalo, nothing was ever wasted it was used. To make shelter, musical instruments, clothing, cooking utensils, the skull was used as an alter for ceremonies and this type of thinking, of using as little as possible to live your life, to respect the world around you so that others in the future may also enjoy all that was and is. When someone needed something and didn't have it, then they were given it, an Elder, widow, disabled person, all were taken care of.

A person from Dominant Society asked a Chief once, why is it you have so many blankets as you say you all share and no one has more than the other. He responded that as Chief he was given many more gifts than the others and it was his households responsibility to take good care of those gifts. That the people understood at any time someone needed a blanket they could ask him for one and it would be given. That if something ever happened to a persons belongings to survive that the Chief would give his own to them and make new for his own self if need be. That as Chief he would have the least if anyone in the Nation had so little, but these were good days he said, so I protect the blankets until someone asks for one or I see that someone is in need.

Imagine that......now our so called Chiefs.......all they can think about is how they can take more food out of the mouths of the Elders, widows, disabled and children.

Indeed Dominant Society has done it's hardest to wipe out that type of thinking, Circle Thinking, my goodness how can you exploit each other if everyone is Sharing and Caring. Each Nation had something similar to the potlatches whereby the wealth of the Community was shared. In some Nations they have the Green Corn Ceremony, whereby all debts to each other are forgiven and let go of so that everyone can start the new year off on a fresh start. Remember, the fear of not pulling your own weight wasn't there, the fear of greed also is not a concept they had in their society. If someone was more talented and had more to offer they felt they are blessed with this skill and was eager to share it, to offer it, it made the Nation stronger. Now one can't share a skill without a piece of paper, no matter how qualified they could be, if they can't afford to get that paper then that skill is never seen by the Nation or one's Community. Is why I like the concept of some Nations in Europe that send their brightest students for Higher Education on the Nation, it comes back to the Nation by having the most talented in medicine, teaching, engineers so on and so forth.

The so called "savage" that Dominant Society tried to kill and destroy in any way it could was years ahead in so many different ways. Even the Native women were mortified to learn how poorly the white women were treated, how they had little say over their lives or how things were run in their communities. Native women in most of North American Nations were highly respected in what they had to say and offer. Men didn't make a major decision for the Nation without consulting the women. Women had the right to refuse a marriage and in her life could leave when she chose a man if he didn't treat her correctly. In fact the women had control of all the household items, if she wanted to not have the man anymore he left and took only his clothes, his hunting tools and personal ceremonial items.

Thank you for taking the time to look over the link I gave, yes, it did offer a wealth of information. If the people who live upon this land of North America today would only half begin to understand the concepts of the First People who lived here, they'd throw out all the fools in Washington DC in a heartbeat and we'd have a really much better society built on mutual respect, green energies, our homes would be more efficient, and we'd be working less hours and having more time to enjoy our creative selves. What is the first thing this society is for cutting back on at the schools? Creative learning, the music, the arts, the fitness programs, that all goes first so they can make nice little robots that are drilled in certain facts, memorize, pass the test, ok smart enough to do this or that, but don't think, oh my goodness don't think and don't create for that allows for thinking too.

And when one's eyes open up, when when thinks from the heart, when one becomes in tune to the energy and the life beings all around them, then one will see the true magic begin, how the universe speaks to you in many forms and many ways.......yes, through the orcas......for they know as you know at that point.... we are one isn't just a saying.
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Saturday November 16, 2013, 11:26 am
I was going to post this after I posted my last two posts - but didn't - but now I think I will.
After I posted my last two posts - I suddenly felt like CRYING, to think what we *ALL* have lost, especially the Native Americans.
The absolutely WANTON AND UNNECESSARY burning of the Old Man House - constructed with such Love and Care and - a Work of Art in itself, no doubt, the Entrances to such Long Houses were elaborately carved with figures that symbolized the History of the families inside... and Mythological Figures... probably signifying Healing, Protection, all sorts of meanings that have no doubt been lost or partly lost...

Then the later LOOTING OF THE ARTIFACTS, just stomping on the ruins... attempting to appropriate the "Quaint" Native stuff for our "Edification" and amusement, really...
So, this Orca thing IS REALLY VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT, and, no, I don't think it could POSSIBLY be a "Co-incidence", 3 dozen or more Orcas LEFT THEIR FISHING to go around the Ferry, that's not "typical" Orca behavior at all; and I believe Objects of Power can have some sort of "Vibrations" for those TUNED IN to such things...

So, I am sharing that right now I am CRYING INSIDE,
but, I am SO GLAD that I DID share this article I came across, and that SO MANY people have come to read and share it! THANK YOU Dandelion, for telling people about it! and ALL that have done so...
 

Gina Caracci (231)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 8:19 pm
so awesome!!
wish I could see them!
TY
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Friday November 22, 2013, 12:18 pm
For those living in the Seattle-Bainbridge Island area, or within a Ferry's ride to the Island:
[From the Street Newspaper 'Real Change', Nov 20-26]:

Sunday, November 24th.
Duwamish Longhouse and Cultural Center, 4705 W. Marginal Way SW,
1:30 p.m., $20 donation or pay what you can at the door.
See duwamishtribe.org for more.

TRADITIONAL NATIVE AMERICAN STORYTELLERS Solana Rose Booth and Ravenspeaker tell stories that haven't been told in public for more than a century in this stop on their Natives Rising Tour.

Natives Rising is an organization dedicated to improving the lives of American Indian youth.
A community potluck follows the storytelling.
================
Maybe even some of the Artifacts are on display there by now!
{It's been nearly a month!}
[Wish I could go!]
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Friday November 22, 2013, 1:19 pm
Just looked at an interesting study of Native Languages, in Tlingit language {Alaskan Coast}, a "spoon with a whale design" was a "WHALE-SPOON" {one word made out of two words}; a dish with a Raven design was a "Raven-dish", a fishhook with a man design on top of it was a "Man-fishhook". {These were carved, sculptured mostly-wooden objects. [Or of stone or bone or horn...] The kind you'd see in Native Museums.}
I think that shows the IMPORTANCE OF ART in the culture! The whole Pacific West Coast is related Ethnographically...

Also, a different Prefix was used for body parts, if it was an Animal, or a Human:
"du-" if it was an Animal eye or ear, for example;
"ka-" if it was a Human eye or ear, etc...
"How are you" was "How is your heart?" "My heart is strong" was the answer...
Language can tell you a lot!
From: 'The Tlingit Indians, Results of a Trip to the Northwest Coast of America And the Bering Straits, By Aurel Krause' [in 1880-81]. Translated [from the German: 'Die Tlinkit-Indianer'] by Erna Gunther, 1955.

Also WISH I COULD GET MY HANDS ON THIS! [Both books are out-of-print, but BY GREAT LUCK I came across The Tlingit Indians in a second-hand bookstore!]
The Indians of Puget Sound, by Hermann Haeberlin and Erna Gunther. Early culture, based upon interviews with the oldest living members of Snohomish, "Snuqualmi" and other tribes.
These are also related tribes living in the region.

Maybe with the renewed interest, these will come back into print again... they are valuable source books.
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Friday November 22, 2013, 7:47 pm
So glad you are finding these things and of interest. Indeed the heart is what the native people spoke from or do think from based their daily life on. The mind will always get one into trouble if the heart is bypassed. The heart sends more message to the brain than the brain sends to the heart. Science fact.

There are two fields we deal with daily, Electrical and the other Magnetic. Which of the bodies areas produces a stronger field...the heart does.

The heart produces an electric field 60 times stronger than that produced by the brain, and it's electromagnetic field is 5000 stronger than the field generated by the brain.

There is much now that Science has "proven" even from how trees talk to each other so on and so forth that the native people already knew and understood.

Yet these people were called 'savages'........

The one thing they did not know how to deal with was with other two leggeds who walked out of balance in such a way they had never had to relate to such an imbalance. It always makes my Heart so happy to see a resurgence of The People finding their Hearts and traditions again.

As Grandmother of the small Inter-Tribal Circle that is in this area, I was blessed to be able to sit around Grandfather's fire with a Mohawk man 7th generation who Walked with the Medicine and also a Lakota Grandmother born on Pine Ridge who was raised in a traditional way. I sat many a day over tea and listened to her wisdom, cooked beside her, and brought in the wood for winter. All the time she shared the stories, the stories of the traditions, the stories of the wisdom, bringing that to another generation of which I too in turn pass along as much as I can.

I wish I had one of the languages or knew my own Nations words. Is good to see the Elders are being asked to share their words and the children and younger people are learning. To know the language is to be able to "think" in the ways the ancestors did. But even those who have lost the language, if one speaks from heart it will connect them back and make today a better one.

We are still here......our Hearts still speak.

 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Friday November 22, 2013, 8:40 pm
Thanks, Dandelion, for YOUR Wisdom.
I think it's interesting, when we see Native artifacts {completely out-of-place and out-of-context of course} in a Museum, we say, Oh, lookit the spoon/ tray/ fishhook with a Whale design. Or a Raven design, or a Human design, or whatever.
Like a piece of our ceramic pottery with a "design" stamped on it.
But, for me, calling an object a "Whalespoon", or a "Ravenspoon" or a "Tlingitknife" {human-knife} or whatever, speaks of a different kind of appreciation of the Object {and its Symbolic meaning}, and a different Aesthetic...
Even objects kindof "speak" and "have life", eh?
Canoes, that triumph of their technology, that could hold as many as 60 people, were also Named after "the idea carried out in the figures on the bow and stern".
[And, speaking of "coincidence" - this is weird! - "The Tlingit Indians" is a 300-page book, and I thought I'd look up the "canoe" reference and I opened the book and THE PAGE WAS RIGHT THERE as I opened the book "randomly".... oh, well.....]
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Friday November 22, 2013, 9:58 pm
My latest posting:
"Thank Swinomish Tribe For Being Climate Champions"
Forcechange Petition to sign:

http://www.care2.com/news/member/911530155/3676786

Another Northwest Coast group in the State of Washington.
An island people planning for rising sea levels, Climate Change...
 

Joanne Dixon (38)
Monday November 25, 2013, 9:41 pm
Too, too cool/ Thanks so much!
 

Sherri G. (113)
Tuesday November 26, 2013, 12:20 am
What a wonderful sight to see Orcas free in their pods. They must be protected so our children can witness them this way. Sea World and others like them must never be able to steal them from their natural habitat again. They don't belong in tanks. TY Barbara for sharing this story and Dandelion for the picture of the museum. Noted.
 

kate kSick (481)
Tuesday November 26, 2013, 4:16 am
wonderful creatures
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Tuesday November 26, 2013, 6:00 am
Most certainly signed the Petition:

For those coming on please sign Petition just left on Nov. 22 @ 9:58pm
Thank the Swinomish Trible for Being Climate Champions
 
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