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Medical/Military/Media Industrial Complex?

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: dishonesty, ethics, lies, media, propaganda, military, politics, corruption, congress )

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On 1-17-1961 President Eisenhower warned Americans of the possible dangers of the Military Industrial Complex and the dangers it pose to a free society. Do the close ties of our Military and our private industies pose a risk to our freedom?

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RC deWinter (418)
Saturday June 23, 2007, 9:31 am
Eisenhower was a TRUE conservative...he also didn;t believe the government had the right to pry into birth control use! The "conservatives" of today are a fascist, dangerous joke!

Sheldon J (4037)
Saturday June 23, 2007, 9:49 am
Eisenhower stated to the nation in his farewell address:

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."

Was this a warning of things that were happening and about to come?

Elsa E (231)
Saturday June 23, 2007, 12:31 pm
Yes and he was right. Seems we have a lot of unwanted at this point. A LOT. Everyone should know history. Shouldn't they. That is one interesting story you got there. All very true too. It's like putting the pieces of a puzzle together. On it's own one piece isn't much, put the whole thing together and you have the whole picture.

I see a very big risk to the planet as a whole.

David C (6)
Saturday June 23, 2007, 2:14 pm
Ike could not have been more topical if he had tried. Bushco probably think of him as some sort of pinko liberal!!

Lily Lee (8)
Saturday June 23, 2007, 4:44 pm
Whilst I was travelling the World, American acquaintances asked me why the American Govt was treated with such contempt by the rest of the lies the answer. As one govt treats it own people, so shall it treat opthers.

LadyLou B (133)
Saturday June 23, 2007, 8:42 pm

Jennifer Martino (137)
Sunday June 24, 2007, 1:52 am
Noted and great info thanks Sheldon. I am also inclined to say that I agree with Lilly Lee in respect to how the government treats its own - treats other nations.

Rod Gesner (60)
Sunday June 24, 2007, 4:26 am
I am still Shaking With Rage And Fight OR Flight! But Where do we go; There is no place to run ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
SO WE MUST TAKE A STAND AND BE COUNTED BEFORE IT IS TO LATE ! !.....................................................

Liz s (76)
Sunday June 24, 2007, 4:50 am

Cheryl B (375)
Sunday June 24, 2007, 6:40 am
very good timeline, wish it went back to WWI or just prior thou

Linda D (41)
Sunday June 24, 2007, 10:08 am
The people have little power except to express their views and very carefully choose who they elect to office, because in our Government lies the real power, and the number one qualification of an elected official should be ethics, and number two compassion. The FBI and CIA work behind the scenes and cover their tracks, but this article shows that freedom of information can be revealing. Other countries have their equivalents of the FBI and CIA and abuses of power and experimentation with mind control and toxins has happened in the past and probably will in the future. Thank goodness for whistle blowers and congressional investigations of abuses.

Debbie S (53)
Sunday June 24, 2007, 10:44 am
Kudos, Cate! I agree, today's so-called conservatives are right-wing fascists. And the medical-banking-military complex has been a triumvirat for a very long time.

Randall Vincent (9)
Sunday June 24, 2007, 11:10 am
I am a gulf war statistic. Isn't it nice to be just a foot note in history where names and places aren't rememberd, only numbers on a graph that are hidden from the general pubic.

I wish there was an advocate group for Gulf war vets, where our eye witness testimonies and post war events could be forever preserved for the record. Trying to get the VA to recognize the legitmacy of our situation is impossible when they're actually advocates and cover up artists for the system in general.

Past Member (0)
Sunday June 24, 2007, 4:43 pm
I don't think they pose a threat at all. They've already gone far, far beyond being a mere threat.

Try a brick in the face.

Jennie B (14)
Sunday June 24, 2007, 7:24 pm
Yes Randall you are right, Gulf war vets have been treated unfairly by the VA, as have all veterans, particularly since Bush II. This idiot who speaks with forked tongue says one thing and then cuts the VA budget every time he turns around-thus you have poorer services provided with vets in need and some entirely overlooked, for ex. the Gulf War vets. Cate you are absolutely right. Republicons have changed the face of the Republican party until it is virtually unrecognizable. To elect anyone from that party is to give power to the neocons who own it, and have business, insurance, pharmaceuticals and the administration. We must not believe that any of them are any different at this point. Until real Republicans wake up and either desert the party completely and form another party with other independents and disaffected Democrats, we have one party we can come near to trusting and we must be very careful which of the candidates we trust. Republicon-lights must be thrown out of Congress along with their Republicon counter-parts. Only those who have truly seen the light and know that change is necessary for this country to continue its very existence, can be trusted. It must be someone not yet ruined by government and corporate lobbyists. And yes, there are a few who can be trusted. Make it your business to know and don't judge just by how big their house is or bank account. It takes a big bank accout to become President in this country -to think otherwise is just not realistic. To make change, the only way is to use the system and then change it. We can do it. We have one more chance to make it really work. Noted.

Robert K (437)
Sunday June 24, 2007, 8:13 pm
So right Jennie, Sheldon and all. The conservative party in general, with few exceptions of course, are as low down as whale s****. From Bill Frist, Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney, Tom Delay, John McCain, Gulianni, Ginrich, Brownback and all. When it comes to a voting on a critical issue they vote strickly down party line and in most cases without any virtue or nobility, and regardless of its harmful impact to the people as a whole.

It doesn't matter if its about the war, going against the Geneva Convention in torture, National debt, increase spending for the military and producing more WMD, cutting out and doing away with Social Programs, against stem cell research, against women's rights, the environment, withdrawing from the Kyoto Summit, nuclear proliferation, against affordable health care, against separation of church and state, civil liberties, toxic waste, make fun of Global Warming, against preserving our National Lands, rivers, oceans, air and Parks or whatever. Therefore you might as well say the conservative, republican, GOP party is a bunch of PNAC neoconic partronizers. Me personally I can not think of one issue that I agree with them on. They also pander with demogoguery the Christian Right just to get their vote, and without doubt that makes them two face lying hypocrital arses.

David C (6)
Monday June 25, 2007, 8:23 pm
I am sorry to have to say it, Linda, but I have NO faith in official investigations, when it comes to uncovering the truth, the whole truth, and nothing nut the truth!

Thomas Panto (364)
Friday June 29, 2007, 5:39 pm
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The DEREGULATED Medical Monopoly ( Now Trillionaires ) will not mention this on our Nation's ONCE FREE press, that they now OWN and CONTROL.

But people need to know, that it is WISE not to Make Deals with blackmailers and highjackers holding hostages.

Not making deals with terrorists has been a successful method used in the past with Hijacked Airliners.

This method, refusing to meet their demands, that discourages a escalation in hijackings and blackmailings, also works when dealing with the blackmailing American medical/military/industrial monopoly.

Canada is wise to have waiting lists that limit what they must pay the America Medical Industry.

Meeting the demands of these American Blackmailers, who hold your sick children for ransom, would just increase the number of hijackings / blackmailings, and an escalation in the size of the ransoms demanded.

It is a kind of Last Stand for a ex-Market Driven, now Deregulated Capitolizm that no longer has a marketplace, nor any functioning government in control of it, nor any functioning judicial system's oversight.


David C (6)
Friday June 29, 2007, 6:45 pm
Too right, Thomas, 'Greed is Good' is now the battle cry of the whole Medical/Military/Media Industrial Complex', which the 'market' is supposed to control, for our 'benefit', according to capitalist theory. What a sick joke (no pun intended!).

Past Member (0)
Thursday July 19, 2007, 4:38 am
NOTED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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