Tuesday April 28, 2009, 9:33 am
Noted and signed. Thanks, Eleanor.

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 9:36 am
Signed and noted with thanks Eleanor.

Thanks for speaking out!

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 9:48 am
this is ridiculous......

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 10:48 am
noted and signed

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 10:58 am
Done Eleanor, and thankyou!!

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 11:13 am
salaam Eleanor-shokran! signed!

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 11:20 am
Welcome back! noted

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 11:38 am
Dear Cheryl,
Thanks for speaking out!
I spoke with a friend in Israel a little while ago. This is how she ended up the conversation: "Won't be much at the computer till tomorrow evening., hoping that I will still have one by then."

If you would like to also send a fax to the Office of the Attorney General, here's the number: +972-2-6467001

If you would like to get more details about what happened, read the full statement from New Profile:
http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/publish/article_1182.shtml

We will keep you updated as we get more details.
Thank you,

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 11:39 am
I DON'T READ HEBREW? ANYONE?



dateTue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:18 PM
subjectמענה אוטומטי בזמן היעדרות מהמשרד: Stop Harassing New Profile!

hide details 2:18 PM (19 minutes ago) Reply



שלום רב,

אנחנו בחופשה עד ליום חמישי, 30/4/2009

פניות באמצעות המייל נקלטות במערכת ויטופלו עם שובנו.

אנו מאחלים חג עצמאות שמח
ברכה,

מיכל טנא, עו"ד
מנהלת יחידת פניות הציבור
וממונה על חוק חופש המידע.

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 11:45 am
why don't you be constructive for a change instead of posting outright lies PAST MEMBER aka sashco/josh/josh13/alex/roger/mohammad,and doug fox, and translate if you can!

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 11:52 am
It's sheer nonsense to say all Israelis want a peaceful solution! If only that were true! I hate it when people insult my intelligence.

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 12:18 pm
Cheryl here's an approximate translation with an internet translation tool. Hopefully someone will correct it if it's wrong - these tools are terrible.

subject during the absence of an automatic response from: Stop Harassing New Profile! hide details 2:18 PM (19 minutes ago) Reply Hello and we are on vacation until Thursday, 30/4/2009 inquiries Mile absorbed by the system will be treated with intelligibility. We wish a happy holiday greeting independence, Michal Tene, Attorney Director of Public Inquiries Unit in charge of Freedom of Information Law.

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 12:51 pm
noted and signed.

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 1:25 pm
Thank you Eleanor for this insight. I have signed the petition.

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 2:16 pm
noted and signed

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 3:12 pm
Signed ! Thanks, Eleanor.

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 4:19 pm
Noted and signed. Thanks, Eleanor.

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 6:00 pm

Signed Eleanor. Thank you for posting.

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 6:09 pm
What a bunch of cold blooded people over there in Israel.

Tuesday April 28, 2009, 9:40 pm
This troll disrespects the foundation of community here at care2. The statement "Josh. (For tech reasons Past Member)" is an outright lie. Within the same statement he admits to creating multiple "aliases." He is incapable of following the same guidelines as everyone else because he is "better" than all of us. Seriously, WTF?

Wednesday April 29, 2009, 2:28 am
signed, there is clear racism- anti-Arab in Israel. check out my group to see for yourself.
ISRAELI ABUSE/DISCRIMINATION TO PALESTINIANS/ARABS
(14 members) last post was 4 days ago, visible to public, open membership

Wednesday April 29, 2009, 3:37 am
Rodger, wondering if you have as well a group to address clear racism- anti-Israel and anti-Christian in Arab countries?

Wednesday April 29, 2009, 6:26 am
"What-aboutism" right out of the troll hanbook.

Wednesday April 29, 2009, 7:14 am
Done deal...Thanks Eleanor..."Thanks for speaking out!"

Wednesday April 29, 2009, 7:18 am
Locan, could you please send me a reference to that troll handbook?

That would be appreciated. I am still thankful to Cheryl for pointing me to JIDL.com and to Brigitte for posting rules of discussion.

What about the original question: How needs those activists when the whole Israel wants peace?!

Josh. (For tech reasons Past Member).

Wednesday April 29, 2009, 7:26 am
Signed, thanks Eleanor

Wednesday April 29, 2009, 8:26 am
I received a lovely e-mail from Jewish Voice for Peace. What a super organisation. They thanked me for supporting New Profile and I replied saying that I would do whatever I could in the future. I truly admire the Israelis who do not condone militarism and genocide. They are extremely brave to refuse and it is shocking the way they are treated. They deserve our support.

Wednesday April 29, 2009, 10:59 am
I DIDN'T receive a lovely e-mail from Arab Voice for Peace, because such organiation does not exist, at least on Google.

Would be a super organisation. I truly admire the Arabs who do not condone militarism and genocide. They are extremely brave to refuse and it is shocking the way they are treated. They deserve our support.


Josh. (For tech reasons Past Member).

Wednesday April 29, 2009, 2:06 pm
Face to Face with History

By Martin Jacques

April 29, 2009 "New Statesman" -- -I can think of only one international body that can lay claim to a semblance of democracy: the United Nations. All the other organisations that regard themselves as global – the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and the World Trade Organisation – are creations of the west and their power structures reflect that fact. This is the reason why the United States has always had a troubled relationship with the UN; it is the one organisation where it is not assured of getting its own way. On the contrary, it often finds itself hugely outnumbered, resolutions on the Middle East and Israel being a classic trigger. That, rather than being strapped for cash, is why the US has always been so reluctant to pay its dues. So, it was no surprise to find the US boycotting this year’s UN World Conference against Racism in Geneva, or that it walked out of the first such meeting in Durban in 2001. America is invariably on the defensive on such occasions.

Of course, western countries are bound to be on the back foot at any conference or gathering on racism. It is not that racism is an exclusively white phenomenon; every race is capable of and engages in racism. It is wishful thinking to believe that it is a solely Caucasian affliction: Rwanda, the civil war in Sri Lanka, Han Chinese attitudes towards Tibetans and Uighurs, or the prejudice shown by host populations virtually everywhere towards migrants, are just a few examples.

Racism, alas, is universal, but its impact has varied greatly, depending on the power of the particular people acting upon their prejudices. That is why white culpability has been far greater in the modern world than that of any other race. Slavery, colonialism and the less blatant forms of discrimination that have been associated with US hegemony – on display in American behaviour towards the people of Iraq and at Guantanamo Bay – have been inextricably intertwined with racism. Indeed, colonialism and slavery would have been inconceivable without racism, it being their rationale and justification.

Any UN conference on racism is therefore bound to be an extremely uncomfortable experience for western nations, especially the US. It is an occasion when the developed, former colonial world meets the developing, generally colonised world. The former much prefer to treat their colonial history with amnesia (which has become Britain’s default mode in relation to its past), but the UN gathering is an instance where that is not possible. The old imperial powers come face to face with the past, as the argument at Durban over reparations for those countries that suffered from colonialism and slavery well illustrates. The flashpoint at this conference – and, indeed, the previous one – has been Israel and its attitude towards the Palestinians. Given that Israel has been central to US foreign policy in a region that has been its greatest priority, it was entirely predictable that the Americans would seek to prevent criticism of either themselves or the Israelis.

In fact, the Israelis offer a sad example of the intractable and ubiquitous nature of racism. After the horrific suffering of the Jews during the Holocaust, the west sought to salve its conscience by taking land from the Palestinians, in an area that had been colonised by the European powers, and using it to help establish the Zionist state of Israel. The latter has, unfortunately, always borne many of the characteristics of a transplant, and was bitterly resented by those whose land was stolen. At the same time, Israel identified itself with the west, to which it looked for sustenance and protection, never seeking to establish a modus vivendi with its neighbours. This attitude was reciprocated.

And so, history has frozen in the Middle East, the paralysis taking the form of a state of war that has lasted longer than a half-century. The way many Arabs in Israel are treated as second-class citizens, and the brutality and cruelty shown during the Israeli assault on Gaza early this year, are eloquent testimony to the racism endemic in Israel. It is ironic that a people who suffered from racism on such an enormous scale should themselves display the same kind of attitude towards the Palestinians and their neighbours. It suggests that people do not necessarily learn from their history; and that those who have suffered so grievously may themselves even be particularly vulnerable to the same way of thinking as a result of their experiences.

There was little, if any, chance of these issues being explored in a useful way at the conference: they are too fraught. But that is not a reason to boycott or walk out. On the contrary, there is an absolute need for a serious global forum on racism. If it is difficult to talk about the phenomenon at home, it is far more difficult to do so at an international level. As a result, the incidence of racism – and its impact and effects – are hugely underestimated both domestically and internationally.

No people like to admit to their own racism; the response is invariably one of denial. This makes the UN conferences on racism – and there have only been two this decade – important and worthwhile events. They represent an acknowledgement that it is a global problem. They offer a forum where such issues can be aired, however sensitive they may be. They oblige the west to face up to its history and engage in a discussion with those whom it has discriminated against.

In this way, they might even assume some of the characteristics of a global truth and reconciliation commission. But that would require western countries to participate rather than boycott, and engage in a full-hearted manner, rather than walk out when words are being spoken that they would rather not hear.

Martin Jacques writes fortnightly in the New Statesman
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22515.htm

Wednesday April 29, 2009, 2:28 pm
I notice that everyone on this board is supporting the peace movement in Israel. Could someone let me know how to contact the Hamas, Hezbollah or Palestinian version? No, does this mean that no-one is in contact with any of them or that they don't exist?

Wednesday April 29, 2009, 5:41 pm
Signed and sent. Thank you Eleanor. I don't know the reason I didn't get this in my e-mail inbox. I am the Jewish Voice for Peace mailing list, but I didn't get this one. They have all of my information on file.

Wednesday April 29, 2009, 11:27 pm
Thank you Brigitte. This article should be submitted! It is excellent. Thank you, Stephen, also. I received it through the Scottish Friends of Palestine.

Thursday April 30, 2009, 12:46 am
Hi Eleanor, you are welcome. And feel free to submit it :)

Thursday April 30, 2009, 8:48 am
Ethnic Nationalism weakest link is from within. The white rose club in pre ww2 germany (when it was going through a racist phase) use to distribute leaflets. However they did get shot in the end. thanks Eleanor,
oh doese ayone want to introduce gillian to our groups to see for herself ? i would be happy to but i dont know her that well yet...love peace and justice

Thursday April 30, 2009, 12:04 pm
Hi, Brigitte. I did it when I got home from work. Thanks!

Tuesday May 5, 2009, 2:36 pm
Noted and signed. Thank you.. Also posted on facebook and twitter to get more coverage.