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Help Me Stop a Psycho That Kills Cats By Teresa D-Can't Add a Photo Too Graphic


Animals  (tags: cats, close website, young girls showing how to kill your cat, Help Please??, Torture, Death, Killing Cats )

PrimaSICK
- 2545 days ago - tinkebell.com
Please give ideas, make petitions, report this, but please HELP!!!!!!! see this (warning) animal cruelty, this person should be stopped! Please, if you are very sensible don´t even watch but help! From Teresa D... HELP?? Can't add a Photo...Graphic !



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PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Friday August 3, 2007, 7:24 pm
Teresa posted this and it's so extreme that i don't know what to do with it??


Teresa D.

Help me stop a psycho that kills cats 5:56 PM

Please give ideas, make petitions, report this, but please HELP!!!!!!!

see this (warning) animal cruelty, this person should be stopped!

Please, if you are very sensible donīt even watch but help!

http://www.tinkebell.com/manual
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Friday August 3, 2007, 7:27 pm
Help me stop a psycho that kills cats by Teresa D
http://www.tinkebell.com/manual

Please give ideas, make petitions, report this, but please HELP!!!!!!!

see this (warning) animal cruelty, this person should be stopped!

Please, if you are very sensible donīt even watch but help!




This is the email to contact someone from the website supposedly ?? tinkebell@tinkebell.com


This Website eventually goes to this other website not in English.... Looks like German to me.
I don't know??

http://www.dierenbescherming.nl/faq.php?action=view&id=124

I did not want to look anywhere for any way to contact . I left the 1st time and even posted do not look around the site.

I did very quickly and this was all I got . I did not even want to chance being there more than the 30 seconds I was. Call me paranoid but it scared it.

This is extreme and some very sick little girls and I don't know who else is involved.

Spomeone knew what they were doing when they made this site.
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Friday August 3, 2007, 7:32 pm
This was Teresa's post. I don't know how she came across it but it looks easy to stick in tinkerbell or something similar and that's it.

She asked for help and all I could think is this should be posted here for people to see and hopefully help.

We need someone that can helkp but i did not find this and cannot take credit for coming across a Website that "NEEDS" to be removed. This was posted by Teresa D ,Thank God. So that somehow maybe it can be stopped/removed,etc... Help is needed. She is correct.

Thank You Teresa for bringing this to our attention...
 

Echo ELES (264)
Friday August 3, 2007, 8:07 pm
can you explain in basic terms what this is about, i am afraid to look...
 

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Friday August 3, 2007, 9:23 pm
Itīs about a psycho woman that makes purses of cat fur and not only that, she uses dogs and bunnies. I reported her to the FBI. Please do the same:
http://www.ic3.gov/contact/
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Friday August 3, 2007, 10:25 pm
It's in real detail Echo. All of us have seen graphic images and yes this is very sick and extreme but I guess most people would have to see for a minute without looking around the website to be maybe more effective at helping.

We have some new information.
Let me go back and get the Thread link for now....
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Friday August 3, 2007, 10:33 pm
http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=12962&pst=773158&archival=&posts=11


Teresa D.

Group History 8:06 PM


Also I contacted the FBI and report her here:

http://www.ic3.gov/contact/

I was so angry that I wrote this woman, I sent a "hello" to her mother from me in English and Spanish. we donīt have to be afraid of these kind of people. She is harming animals and she should be stopped.



Look here Prima:

http://streetteam.peta2.com/public/folder_view.cfm?pageid=341&option=view_thread&postid=1041845&folderid=728





Teresa,Thanks that might be a huge help. This is posted on Peta. I am sure tons of people came across this site.

I have a list of places to file online Cyber Complaints. Ihave to locate it. I was looking for it but no luck yet. I do have a list and as soon as I hope to find it I will post but people go to the link which is to PETA and write something and read everything.

It's sickening that these young ladies would get invoved. The Website is just unspeakable !!

Peta: PLEASE HELP SHUT DOWN TINKEBELL.COM Posted ByDate/Timeveggiezinestress2/13/05 4:08 PMI have the dirt on the girl who created this horrible website:
www.tinkebell.com/manual

I found her phone number, address etc:
We found this person:
Her name is: katinka simonse

She seems kinda messed-up. You think?? Nutcase ! The source code on her web page has search words like: paint, art, tinkebell's art, artist, painter, gallery, gallerie, animals, cute, kid, kids, extreme, nederlands, dutch...(and a bunch of not modest stuff as well). Since when is cruelty "art"?

Her web domain information is here:

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: tinkebell.com

Created on..............: 16 Dec 2002 10:06:12
Expires on..............: 16 Dec 2005 10:06:12

Registrant Info:
TINKEBELL
K. Simonse
Goirkestraat 85
Tilburg, 5046GE
NL
Phone: 06-41289847
Fax..:
Email: admin-contact@admin-contact.com

Administrative Info:
TINKEBELL
K. Simonse
Goirkestraat 85
Tilburg, 5046GE
NL
Phone: 06-41289847
Fax..:
Email: admin-contact@admin-contact.com

Technical Info:
Your Name Webhosting
Marcel van Offeren
Muldersweg 77
Nijmegen, 6532 WZ
If somebody in the netherlands could contact animal athorities, maybe we could shut her down!

[ send green star] flag for delete



Olimpia O.

Group History 9:59 PM

This is a great idea:If somebody in the netherlands could contact animal athorities, maybe we could shut her down

 

Past Member (0)
Friday August 3, 2007, 10:33 pm
This website has to be stop is a complete disgrace and we have to press charges aginst it.
 

Lauren Stone (586)
Friday August 3, 2007, 10:55 pm
I have a very strong stomach and that was too much for me. That is extremely warped. Serious mental/emotional illness? What else could prompt a person to think of such a thing?
 

Lauren Stone (586)
Friday August 3, 2007, 11:15 pm
Okay, this woman IS mentally DISTURBED! If you stand to look at the rest of the site...when she moved, she dug up the cat remains and took it with her! Good grief...SICK!!
 

Past Member (0)
Friday August 3, 2007, 11:22 pm
plz try not to open that link .... it is what these nasty creepy people want ... many hits to thier disgusting postin ..... lets get these people arrested !!
 

Lauren Stone (586)
Friday August 3, 2007, 11:26 pm
She has kiddy porn on her site! This bitch has to go!!!
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Friday August 3, 2007, 11:29 pm
Olimpia,What Roxie says is true and there's so much more from when we were did one pedophile site in particular. The hits is one thing but there's more and I just don't want to say but I think people get the idea.

So this might offer a litle explanation why I was nicely suggesting someone take caution. It's not being afraid of them and sure it's on your computer forever but there's much more. They can't do anything .

This girl and I'm sure another girl or two or a guy are doing this and they have been twisted since birth. I don't believe at all for a second that this was due to child abuse only ,if any at all?

It's inside this one girl for real.

Sure they want the hits too but there's more the more you dig around.
 

Holly Gumbiner (7)
Friday August 3, 2007, 11:30 pm
that is so sick.people like that and any person who hurts an animal need to be put away for life. what can i do to help?
 

Viktoria T. (75)
Friday August 3, 2007, 11:41 pm
I can't believe my eyes, so very sick, and this woman is even proud of what she's doing. Let me know how to help stop her.
 

Lauren Stone (586)
Friday August 3, 2007, 11:54 pm
email Interpol at;

http://www.interpol.int/public/mail/mail3.asp?id=pii
 

Past Member (0)
Friday August 3, 2007, 11:58 pm
Contacting their ISP will be helpful. Also going to Peta's petition will be helpful. Twisted sister, no?
 

Lauren Stone (586)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:16 am
Royal Netherlands Embassy - Washington, DC
webmaster@netherlands-embassy.org
 

Lauren Stone (586)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:30 am
FBI tips email;
https://tips.fbi.gov/
 

Marian E. (152)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:35 am
Couldn't look, will email to stop. Thank you
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:37 am
Handling Websites that Promote Animal Cruelty

In response to the rising number of websites that promote, glamorize
or trivialize cruelty to animals, this information is to help you to do something to stop it. Much of what you see on the Internet is created for the purpose of drawing attention to the author's website. They are so disassociated with society that it doesn't matter to them if what they are displaying has any moral value. All they are concerned with is the attention -- whether good or bad -- motivates them to continue their effort to increase their hit count or reputation. To those types of sites, please ignore them. Hopefully, without the attention that they crave for, and the lack of interest in their site from others, they will go away.

In the past, we provided petitions and worked to have the sites removed. Even though this process was successful, it has also helped to draw attention to those sites. This has indirectly given support to those sites to make it eventually come back or encouraged others who thought alike to start one of their own cruelty websites. Now, we have several more, and efforts to remove them gets harder and harder everytime. That's why it is in the best interest of all concerned that we handle these things in another manner.

Should you find a site that is promoting animal cruelty, here is what you can do:

- Do not contact the website. The author isn't interested in how you feel about him/her and what he/she is doing.

- Do not provide website links and/or send emails to all of your friends and associates telling them about the site. Doing so would be promoting the site and, thusly, giving them what they want -- attention. It is what they crave and you would only be fueling their fire. Don't give them any satisfaction. If you have concerns about a web site, contact your elected officials but please do not contact friends and neighbors. Many well-intentioned individuals believe that the best course of action is to tell all of their friends and relatives about such web sites. Sometimes online petitions against a site will be generated. Ultimately, such petitions or mass emails will only increase the number of visitors to a website, encouraging the site's creator.

- Contact the ISP who hosts the website to let them know about the abusive content. The administrative and technical contacts are who you should be sending your complaints to. The registrant is most likely the website author. To find out who is the ISP and other relevant information, you can use any one of the WHOIS tools available on the internet such as this one here: http://whois.domaintools.com
However, sometimes the origin of the site, the name and address under the site is registered could be inaccurate, incomplete or false. So far, it has been an uphill battle, as the only law that even remotely covers issues like this is a law that covers e-mailed obscenities; therefore, if the site is not in violation of the host's user agreement, no law is being violated, and the site can remain up. Some other sites similar to this one has been closed down several times before but continues to reappear with different Web addresses. Thus, in addition, you can also file a complaint at the reporting center website set up by the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) for Internet fraud and other forms of Internet crime here: http://www.ic3.gov

Hopefully, with enough complaints filed with the FBI, stressing the influence it may have on cases of actual cruelty, it will be removed permanently.

- Know the Laws in your Area: http://www.h4ha.org/local-laws/index.php
If you know of a real animal abuse in your community, contact your local authorities. Provide as much evidence to support your complaint as possible.

Animal cruelty hurts everyone, and it most certainly it is not funny.

"I have always held firmly to the thought that each one of us can do a little to bring some portion of misery to an end." ~ Albert Schweitzer

If you are wondering on how you can generate more complaints to the FBI without promoting the sites, well, you could still do so by describing the websites and tell people what are the contents without providing the links, and also tell them why you can't provide it. I'm sure people will understand and cooperate.

Remember... Provide the relevant website links only to the FBI and relevant authorities. Not to the public.

Thanks.
 

Lauren Stone (586)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:39 am
Police Netherlands;
voorlichting@klpd.politie.nl
 

Tkay S. (22)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:39 am
K, I got down to like the second picture after she would looove to.... and I'm all like "Okay. No. I can't even look at this." This can't be faked or doctored up and even if it is it's so sick and the people that do this need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. What I would Like to say is also just as sick because how would she like it if someone was to send the results of somebody making her into a purse, right? Dis.Cus.Ting.
 

Tkay S. (22)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:45 am
Lauren, you posted...
Lauren Stone (381) Friday August 3, 2007, 11:54 pm
email Interpol at;

http://www.interpol.int/public/mail/mail3.asp?id=pii

The link to this is unfamiliar to me and I'm not exactly sure what to type. Do I copy and paste her site or the top site that Theresa started or do I say my own .. line 1 line 2 line 3 message message.. see what I mean?
Thankyou for the link but please explain how to report it.
 

Lauren Stone (586)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:50 am
News Netherlands; Ik heb een nieuwstip voor BlikopNieuws
http://www.blikopnieuws.nl/contact
 

Elle J. (282)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:51 am
Noted! As I stated in my letter to the people on my friends'list, I will help put away an animal abuser but I cannot look at the graphic pictures of the abuse. In my opinion, she is not only abusing animals but she is a psycho as well and probably very dangerous. Animal abuse is bad enough but what is next on her agenda? Child Abuse, Murder. I completely agree with everyone one, she most definitely needs to be stopped. Just let me know what I can do to help.
 

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:53 am

Nick Josh (228)

You are deleting all the topics in big groups, and you are the host....weird

Where is our freedom of speech???? doīnīt lecture us LET PEOPLE TALK BETTER YET!

MAYBE YOU HAVE THE POWER TO VANISH THIS NOTE OF PRIMA TOO? LET US KNOW PLEASE
 

Tkay S. (22)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:53 am
Oh Nick, thankyou. I hadn't seen your post til after my two. What you say is a lot of information but strong information and easy to understand even at 4 in the morning. It is definatly true that going to her website is encouraging her behaviour. And it does bring it back to knowing the laws in OUR AREA. But What IF every one of us care2 members signed a petition and made it illegal, like Theresa is saying. Not just to shut down the website, but to get her arrested or hospitalized? And it worked?
 

Lauren Stone (586)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:53 am
This is a copy of the email I sent to every address I listed;

"An article was posted on the news at www.care2.com regarding this web site based in the Netherlands. It contains child porn, animal abuse/corpse abuse. This is highly disturbing. I hope you can contact someone who can shut down this site and arrest this person.
Thank you, Sincerely, Lauren Stone, USA
Following is information gathered on the site/owner; Her web domain information is here:

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: http://www.tinkebell.com

Created on..............: 16 Dec 2002 10:06:12
Expires on..............: 16 Dec 2005 10:06:12

Registrant Info:
TINKEBELL
K. Simonse
Goirkestraat 85
Tilburg, 5046GE
NL
Phone: 06-41289847
Fax..:
Email: admin-contact@admin-contact.com

Administrative Info:
TINKEBELL
K. Simonse
Goirkestraat 85
Tilburg, 5046GE
NL
Phone: 06-41289847
Fax..:
Email: admin-contact@admin-contact.com

Technical Info:
Your Name Webhosting
Marcel van Offeren
Muldersweg 77
Nijmegen, 6532 WZ

 

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:54 am
Fir the rest of the people here (until Nick delete this) You can flag this psychoīs woman videos too at youtube.com
 

Tkay S. (22)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:55 am
What?? Nick is deleted topics about... wait.. Can someone help Theresa start some kind of petition to stop this person or not?
 

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:56 am
NICK DELETED MANY TOPICS OF THIS ISSUE IN BIG GROUPS.

I wonder if he has the "power" to delete this news too.
 

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:58 am
Nick Josh has removed your post to the HSUS-The Humane Society of the United States group on Care2 Connect for the following reason(s):

Thread cleanup

HSUS-The Humane Society of the United States group home page

Sincerely,
Nick Josh
 

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:59 am
Nick Josh has removed your post to the National Geographic group on Care2 Connect for the following reason(s):

Thread cleanup

National Geographic group home page

Sincerely,
Nick Josh
 

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 1:00 am
AND THE MOST AMAZING ONE

Nick Josh has removed your post to the Pets in Need group on Care2 Connect for the following reason(s):

Thread cleanup

Pets in Need group home page

Sincerely,
Nick Josh
 

Lauren Stone (586)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 1:03 am
More news links;
http://www.kidon.com/media-link/nl.php
I've mailed a number and will hit the rest in the morning.
 

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 1:03 am
Nick Josh has removed your post to the Care2 News, Discussions & Messages group on Care2 Connect for the following reason(s):

Thread cleanup

Care2 News, Discussions & Messages group home page

Sincerely,
Nick Josh
 

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 1:04 am
Nick Josh has removed your post to the Care2 News, Discussions & Messages group on Care2 Connect for the following reason(s):

Thread cleanup

Care2 News, Discussions & Messages group home page

Sincerely,
Nick Josh
 

Tkay S. (22)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 1:04 am
I'm like.. umm.. Nick.. I was so all like wow, he's kewl. .. then now i'm all like wtf??
 

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 1:05 am
Now you know what groups you canīt speak.
 

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 1:07 am
And Nick, you donīt need to delete me from "your" groups. I am out of them ALONE. Donīt help me. THANKS
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 1:19 am
Teresa D is upset because one of her post with links to a animal cruelty website got removed. She was notified why her post was removed through this link:

Handling Websites that Promote Animal Cruelty:
http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=6684&pst=843849&archival=&posts=4

Unfortunately, for some reason, she seemed not to understand and disagree's with it. I doubt she even read it. This attitude will not help animals. It will only make it worst.

Thanks.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 1:21 am
Here's the message that was sent to her:

Hi Teresa,

Nick Josh has sent you the following introduction. This system allows only brief introductions. If you would like to respond to this person, simply reply to this message.

Hello Teresa, Your post was deleted. Please read the information in this link to understand why: http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=68&pst=768204&archival=&posts=2 Thanks, Nick
 

Tkay S. (22)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 1:24 am
And like I said before, that's why I'm not in groups like Nicks but I do love Daria's and Waya's Cat Addicts Anonymous which is where i found this topic. Don't know why my post was deleted.
 

Katie S. (73)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 1:56 am
Unfortunately 'Tinkebell' has been around for a long time and several people have copied her and put the videos on YouTube. This site needs to be shut down NOW.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 2:04 am
Yes, but not by adding more hits to it...
 

Ali Hirst (286)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 2:06 am
Okay it is under Your Name Webhosting so my bet it is a free website..I may be wrong. But I am going to do a petition up now and send it out.
 

Blacktiger P. (247)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 2:08 am
Well I was going to send this to Ria S. in Amsterdam, but now I don't know what's happening. anyway Noted
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 2:20 am
News, Message forwarding and Petition Tips:

If you are wondering on how you can generate more complaints to the FBI without promoting the sites, well, you could still do so by describing the websites and tell people what are the contents without providing the links, and also tell them why you can't provide it. I'm sure people will understand and cooperate.

Remember... provide the relevant website links only to the FBI and relevant authorities. Not to the public. Thanks.
 

Francesca L. (140)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 2:27 am
This woman is very ill - she needs professional help. I get the feeling that she gets off on 'being weird' so no doubt thinks what she is doing is not wrong. The authorities need to prosecute her for all the abuse against animals and children she perpetuates. I would imagine that she herself has also been a victim of childhood sexual abuse and is venting her anger, and negative emotions about herself onto others more vulnerable than herself. She needs medical/psychological help. She should not be allowed in the community - what if she starts on other peoples animals and children?
 

Tkay S. (22)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 2:40 am
I understand what Nick is saying y'all cause people don't care what you think, all they care about is... i got another click on my site. I got me another nickle for my pickle. Whatever. Everytime we click on the link that gets people to see her trying to generate purses (however hidiously thought of or whatever the case may be) it's getting her PRODUCT, her IDEAS, her whatever out there and she's prolly got some wacko nutso sicko peoples out there that actually agree with her .. maybe they say, yeah, i'll get me 2 of them.. whatever, we click on that site folks and we keep clickin and spreadin, like Nick is sayin.. that's not how to shut it down... all that's doin is what? PROMOTING what she's talkin about. So don't look, don't watch it, don't go there... talk about it here OR places like the FBI that can do something to STOP HER and people like her. See what he's tryin to say?
I just don't know why certain groups on care2 would have thread clean ups when this is such a "Hot Topic" and it was posted in animal groups.
That being said, that's why I don't debate and I'm not active in major groups of things. I do sign petitions and yeah, if I have time I talk about it if it's important and stuff. Mostly I try to stay unbiased. (When we click on that crazy chicks website.. it shows that we ARE actually biased TOWARD what she is wanting to get out to the public)
 

Ali Hirst (286)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 2:42 am

Thats why I did the petition just now. So he doesn't get anymore hits. Just the info in the petition say it all to anyone who cares about animals and children. Please send the petition link to your friends.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/against-cat-killer-child-porn-website
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 3:02 am
Thank you all for understanding. Thank you Helen for the wise petition format, and thank you Tkay for explaining it again to everyone. The only reason Teresa's post was removed was because of the web site link was provided. If this news was provided without the link, it would've remained untouched while commended for the efforts to expose animal cruelty.
 

Colleen H. (152)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 3:06 am
This is just discusting.. It makes me sick...

thanks for bringing it to our attention.
 

Ali Hirst (286)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 3:07 am
Well I left out the site URL because it is sickening and I only clicked on it to get the info so I could do a petition. I don't advise anyone to click on it again...it is SICK and you are giving the website owner HITS and that is what they want. Just go to the petition link which has all the information you need to sign and I will forward it to the person who allows these websites to be posted. They are just as sick or want the money from the site.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 3:13 am
I've signed the Petition. Thank you! ;-)
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 5:10 am
Peace to all....& I couldn't agree more about the site getting exposure if we are promoting it by giving the site for people to see. We want it to stop, not fulfill this Tinkebell's need for more HITS....All are correct about that..I noted sadly and disgusted, however, this is for the cats not this insane sub-human. I will now sign the petition, and I will never go to the site, as that would just feed into her frenzy of the mentality of another sub-human...I will also contact the FBI... Prayers are needed for these animals, also...Thanks, Prima & to all that gave out the info for whom to contact....Bless u for caring, We will stop this sub-human, somehow.....Karma, there Ms.Tinkie...what goes around........
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 5:45 am
http://www.dierenbescherming.nl/faq.php?action=mail
that filthy horrid bitches site had a link to this which is a netherlands activist site for animals
i have sent 8 emails to that site in regards to the issue
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 5:46 am
http://www.dierenbescherming.nl/faq.php?action=mail
that filthy horrid bitches site had a link to this which is a netherlands activist site for animals
i have sent 8 emails to that site in regards to the issue
 

Sammantha L. (126)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 5:46 am
Thanks for explaining about not hitting the site because it benefits the unbelievably vile, twisted person whose site it is. I didn't look...animal abuse AND child porn...OMG! Its beyond comprehension. I'll sign Helen's petition now. Thanks Lauren, for alerting me to this. I now fully comprehend the expression "ignorance is bliss." I wish I didn't know of such things, but we must do all we can to put a stop to this behavior.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 5:52 am
Please note this news at this link as well: http://www.care2.com/news/member/957884325/443281

It is on Handling Websites that Promote Animal Cruelty.

Thanks
 

Sammantha L. (126)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 5:55 am
I can't find the petition!!!! Please excuse my ineptness, but I tried what Helen wrote down, plus other names,...aaaarrgghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 5:56 am
http://www.tinkebell.com/
she seems also to be promoting political reverse art on animal issues .who is from the netherlands on care2?
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 6:02 am
Signed the petition ! I also agree with not going to the website or encouraging it. For clicks and other reasons I didn't mention but now have been mentioned.

Unfortunatelly I did explain this without going into enough detail but when I posted it here I included all information for people to help or do something.
So I can't remove the website from this news post but I would really follow the suggestion of NOT going back and forth to it or writing the girl.


I also mentioned it was bad & graphic but I guess it could have been described better so that no one had to go look at the site to get a better idea what it's about.

I couldn't describe it well enough.

If you think I don't regret posting all the information. I do !

I never knew so many people would go there which is encouraging her to continue on.

All I kept writing was not to click and that there are other reasons why. I figured if I didn't mention them ,then people would ignore the site and not go.

I don't think anyone needs to go to the site.

It was described in full here what the site does rather quickly after posted. That would have been enough for me ....

If you DO NOT want to encourage and you DO want to help close down the website I agreee with Nick !! Don't go there .....

It's not a personal thing. I like Teresa . I just want the site closed,removed and this person/persons caught.


This morning 3am maybe?? I saw a NM going around with a description and the website and the girls website address and almost died..... Of course people getting that NM are going to click right on the site.

I couldn't believe the person wrote it the way he did and sent it around.
Everyone that gets that message and it went to many as far as I can tell -DO NOT click on it and do not write.

The NM was bad and it makes me even regret posting the information again. The guy didn't get his information from me. But I have it posted here and Please do not click on it .

I was posting information assuming people would help. Being stupid and thinking the majority would not go to the site.

I knew not to encourage people to go but obviously was not thinking by posting it here with all the information to help ,not go to the website and look.

I really had no idea what to do and thought it was only posted in 2/3 groups I saw. I didn't even think this was posted all over the place.

Don't give her a reason to keep going !!! That's the only reason it was removed from all those groups Teresa. Please do not take it personally . Of course It was not against you.


Sign the Petition ....

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THIS IS TERESA'S ORIGINAL MESSAGE SAYING HELP BUT DON'T GO THERE.

Teresa D.

Help me stop a psycho that kills cats 5:56 PM

Please give ideas, make petitions, report this, but please HELP!!!!!!!

see this (warning) animal cruelty, this person should be stopped!

Please, if you are very sensible donīt even watch but help!








 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 6:04 am
Thanks Nick Josh !
Prima

Teresa,I know you only wanted to help and DO NOT take it personally !
You want the site shut down and that's all that matters.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 6:16 am
Thank you Prima for your understanding as well.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 6:16 am
godddess i w ish this bitch were in front of my face now. an d i am using the polite word. i have emailed the links provided as well the animal rights group a link on her site went to and the server and her own stupid self. i have a feeling she is a reverse performing artist there is a coterie of such that puts the filth in peoples faces. if you look at her site there is much political art on empathy and such and why the link to the animal activist site?

however, if all of her visual sadism is an artist means ( in her view) to garner attention to the plight of animals i do not agree with it.
so has anyone noticed the political content ?
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 6:18 am
Sammantha, here's the petition link. Please copy and paste it: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/against-cat-killer-child-porn-website

Thanks
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 6:26 am
http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/animal_abuse_and_neglect/web_sites_that_promote_animal_cruelty.html



What You Can Do about Websites that Promote Animal Cruelty



The Humane Society of the United States frequently receives correspondence from individuals concerned about sites on the Internet that celebrate and encourage the exploitation of animals. In many cases, what appears to be illegal activity is actually protected under the law as free speech.

If you see a website that promotes or glorifies animal cruelty or exploitation, take these steps:

1. Do not contact the person running the site. In many cases, creators of offensive websites are encouraged by the negative attention they receive in response to their site. For this reason, we discourage people from e-mailing or otherwise contacting the individuals who run offensive web sites.

2. Contact the Internet Service Provider (ISP) hosting the site. In response to complaints they receive from concerned visitors, ISPs have in many cases removed sites because they determined that the sites' content violated the ISP's User's Agreement. Click here to find the ISP for a site that ends in .com, .net, or .org. Click here to find the ISP for a site in an international domain (such as .uk or .ch).

3. Resist spreading the word. If you have concerns about a web site, contact your elected officials. Please do not contact friends and neighbors. Many well-intentioned individuals believe that the best course of action is to tell all of their friends and relatives about such web sites. Sometimes online petitions against a site will be generated. Ultimately, such petitions or mass emails only increase the number of visitors to a website, encouraging the site's creator.

The HSUS shares your concern and frustration over the content of sites that promote animal suffering or otherwise glorify the exploitation of animals. The HSUS consistently works to increase public awareness of many animal exploitative issues, including those encouraged by offensive websites. Thanks for your concern and active participation in monitoring potentially harmful sites.









Find the ISP for a site that ends in the domain .com, .net, or .org
Find the ISP for a site that ends in an international domain (such as .uk or .ch)





 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 6:29 am
Nick Josh (229)

Handling Websites that Promote Animal Cruelty:
http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=6684&pst=843849&archival=&posts=4

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SIGN PETITION

Nick Josh (229) Saturday August 4, 2007, 6:18 am
Sammantha,

here's the petition link. Please copy and paste it:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/against-cat-killer-child-porn-website

Thanks


 

ANNE LORGHEOU (69)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 6:58 am
wrote an email...so sickening!!!
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 7:32 am
Teresa,Thanks to YOU . WE now have a petition and more things started.

Please do not feel like you were attacked or that it was anything personal.

You actually set out to do what you wanted. To find help,start a petition,etc... Thank You & please try to understand a little that I certainly am grateful you brought this out .

You managed to start something good now. Please try and understand and feel good now that we have something going on the site.

Sign the Petition Guys;


here's the petition link. Please copy and paste it:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/against-cat-killer-child-porn-website

Thanks
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 7:43 am
Teresa, I was only teaching you the right way in doing things and hoping that you will be willing to learn effective ways to help animals. Please don't feel unappreciated or that your freedom of speech was compromised. It was just a simple misunderstanding. You may repost in Care2 groups without the links. Thank you.
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 7:59 am
Here's the new Thread in my group all Posts just NO Website link.

No matter what Teresa brought out a topic that urgently needs Attention and has managed to start that.
Thank You teresa and even Nick is just saying it's not you. It tyruly is not. YOU managed to do something good.

New Thread to WFC group-No Website Listed
http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=12962&pst=773417&thread_options_open=1


SIGN PETITION NOW PLEASE !!



AGAINST CAT KILLER /CHILD PORN WEBSITE


Helen Hirst (300) Saturday August 4, 2007, 2:42 am

Thats why I did the petition just now. So he doesn't get anymore hits. Just the info in the petition say it all to anyone who cares about animals and children. Please send the petition link to your friends.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/against-cat-killer-child-porn-website


The person who built this website which is reported on Care2 C2NNews needs to be reported and the website deleted. It has very Graphic Pictures of how to kill a cat and turn the fur into a handbag. Also there are links on their to child porn. This is unacceptable and must be removed and the owner of the site charged.


30 signatures 8/4 10:33am ET

 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 8:28 am
A little correction of words. When I say teaching, I meant it as advising, guiding or suggesting. Please don't take it the wrong way. Thanks.
 

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 9:06 am
I donīt like how you teach, advise or guide, by deleting ME instead of THE PSYCHO.
People listen to me. If you report this loca to the FBI you have to give them the MORE INFORMATION you can about her, the link and details. Cause the FBI will NOT be "guessing" where, when or what, we have to be clear. Nick wants the FBI to GUESS, to INVESTIGATE and that MEANS NORE ANIMALS KILLED, each minute by copycats and psychos. Nick deletes the "COWS" not the "BUTCHERS", be careful with wrong andvises. GIVE DETAILS TO THE FBI and places were you will report it.

By the way Nick, I remember how you let a RACIST post in your net message group go on and on and on. And this one, you just deleted it because of the "cruelty". Put yourself in order.

People, we sign DAILY petition with links and news about BURNED CATS, ABUSED HORSES, ABUSIVE PEOPLE, all with LINKS. Donīt let this person tell you to do SOMETHING DIFFERENT THIS TIME. Think and take your own actions.

 

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 9:13 am
I donīt understand why some words are cut at the end of each line, for the complete answer I posted up, go here to read, thank you:
http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=3109&pst=835669&reply=1#835920
 

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 9:18 am
Helen, I sign your petition, thank you!

AGAINST CAT KILLER /CHILD PORN WEBSITETarget:Marcel van Offeren Muldersweg 77 Nijmegen, 6532 WZCreated by:Helen Hirst (Care2 Member)The person who built this website which is reported on Care2 C2NNews needs to be reported and the website deleted. It has very Graphic Pictures of how to kill a cat and turn the fur into a handbag. Also there are links on their to child porn. This is unacceptable and must be removed and the owner of the site charged.

Thank you! You signed at 9:16 AM PDT, Aug 4, 2007
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 9:28 am
Teresa,The words are cut off on every single post I see.
I've seen this happen often enough. When I copy/paste it all shows up whicjh I did so i could read everything.

Sweetie,
I posted a link right from a site saying the same things. Forget about listening to anyone .You can just search and the same suggestions come up everywhere and I do agree with them .

Most of them for this issue. Some things I've seen in the past don't make sense to me.
There are severeal groups that left your posts including me re posting because I wanted to delte the website and also 2 comments that we didn't need there.
One by me and someone else.

Teresa all i can say is you did what you set out to do which is great. You said no one go to the site ,please help?? YOU got someone to start a petition and letters going.

No one here has been rude or anything to you. Only grateful you brought this out like I am.
Thankful you did !!

If something else is happening it's not happening here in this post. People have been and are very supportive of you. When talking to the FBI I am sure giving the the website would be a priorty. I would think so. I will call Monday. I'm sure plenty will be calling thanks to you bringing this out and that's what you should be happy about. That we have a chance because of you.

Thank you Teresa
Prima
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 9:34 am
OHHH SH...!!!! THIS ARTICLE IS CRAZY!!!! I AM SICK TO MY STOMACH!!!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 10:04 am
I guess none of you read Dutch? There is a link to the Dutch - Animals Protection Society and they have a statement saying that this woman Katinka, is an artist and only uses already dead animals, doesn't actually kill them, but that they have warned her about the tastelessness of the work. I don't really understand so called performance artists at the best of times, but I guess if she isn't killing cats for her "art," it's going to be hard to throw any law at her for being a "sicko". As for the porn aspect - the laws are different in European countries. It gives me the creeps, but so do plenty of things on the Net.
 

Pamela R. (159)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 10:10 am
Shaking my head in disbelief, and shedding a tear for the deceased.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 11:07 am
I am curious how giving the site hits, helps them? Do they win a prize for hits? Are they paid for hits? Without people seeing it.. or knowing what site to report.. how does anyone know where to go? I realize that it's not cool to look at.. but, knowing what's been happening.. a person can either look and report, or not look and report. Depends on them, no?
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 11:11 am
I think everything has been explained and re-explained above and in the links provided. Please read it. Help the animals by not going to the website. A show only happens when there is an audience.
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 11:21 am
Karen,Thank You for the comment. This is what i said from the start. There are always loopholes that end up making these just slide by legally. YES,I knew even though I couldn't read that supposedly she is going to say these are dead cats and this is what she does with them .

Someone may have a pet that passed away and this is an option they can choose to have their pet forever,blah,blah,blah...

It's all bull and she is "Litertally" killing these cats. This cat was not dead more than a few moniutes she was working with and was not preserved in any way.

Yes the laws are very different and this is going to be a nightmare. No one has been able to shut down the child porn site yet that I know the name but forget how to spell it. I always forget the name -it drives me insane but I know some of you know which one I am talking about (It starts with a "P"). Too many legal loopholes and were still have not been able to shut it down.

I almost wondered if it was the same woman or some relation.

Her so called art has instructions in details on how to make the items if people want them???
We all know this is all bull and Karen has very much confirmed my fears from the start,

The woman is sick and because certain things are legal. They use it to get through these loopholes.

Her connection to an animal activism site acting like she is doing something good at the same time. I can't read Dutch. I was not sure of the language and to me it was similar to German.

This is all confirms my fears. It makes me sick and pissed beyond words.

I did think all of this. But I would like to give it a try before not doing a thing.

Karen,you were a big help. Sadly it confirmed my fears.

I'm still going to say don't click on the website people and encourage her to do more!! We knw it's all a bunch of crap and keep clicking . It will get worse....

Sign the Petition and make your phone calls Monday. Do searches . There are lists of places to call.

Now Darren states there are Video's on Youtube and they can be flagged. Again Youtube is not taking responsibilty for their content and they have a policy that says they don't have to.

I am offline until tonight.
This is all too much for me and I am just worn out personally/physically also.

This is not helping to get so mad,sad and we are not stupid.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 11:45 am
Teresa, for the last time, you may repost the message without the links.
A show only happens when there is an audience so it's better to not
ask people to go and see it. It will encourage abusers to create more
shows.

You can still post the message without the links to the website. Just
desscribe the websites and tell people what are the contents without
providing the links, and also tell them why you can't provide it.
I'm sure people will understand and cooperate.

Provide the relevant website links only to the FBI and relevant authorities.
Not to the public. Not to Care2 members. Not to anyone, except to the
FBI and relevant authorities.

Please understand how important this is to help animals. You will only
make it worst for the animals by helping the abusers to promote their
website for them, thus encouging them to do more shows since you
are bringing audience and support for them.

Your post was only removed because it contained a link to their web
site. This is nothing personal. I have nothing against you or your post.
It was because of the link. So you may repost without the link. Give the
link only to the FBI and relevant authorities. Please help the animals
by not providing the link the everyone else except the FBI and relevant
authorities.

Thank you for your efforts to help animals.
 

Barry Seth (118)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 12:00 pm
Ultra Gross..........This website must be shut down.
 

Charles C. (160)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 2:47 pm
I am sorry, but I cannot believe that everyone is doing exactly what I stressed not to do....DO NOT GO TO THE SITE, AS THAT IS WHAT SHE WANTS...HITS ON THE SITE...JUST REPORT IT AND DO NOT GO THERE!!!!!
I have already received word from a friend there in the Netherlands who has reported to all authorities. They claim that they cannot do anything because she uses animals are already dead, but we are working on it anyway. The Netherlands authorities also said not to go to the site...it fuels her fire and Tinkebell is a sicko!!
Here is the email I got from my friend:

Hi Charles,

Tinkerbell is in The Netherlands. She is a very sick person.

I e-mailed all authorities over here, but at this moment it still is not illegal. She seems not to kill the animals, but to use deceased cats and dogs and that is allowed.

They advised me not to take any more notice, because that is what she wants.

I am sorry my news is not better, but I tried everything possible here in the Netherlands.

Posting the website as a story and link directly there was really not a good thing to do!!!!!
 

Ali Hirst (286)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 2:49 pm
I have just received an email from Care2 earth petitions saying there is no Porn links on the site as I was told and to remove that part of the petition. I have edited the petition. If anyone can prove there is porn links on there please let me know. Here is the email I received.

You have received the following feedback on your petition, "AGAINST CAT KILLER /CHILD PORN WEBSITE", on ThePetitionSite.com:

There is no child porn on this site. Please remove that from the petition or it will not b taken seriously.

-----------------------------
You can respond directly to this user's feedback by pressing reply in your email client. Thanks for helping to make a difference through Care2 and ThePetitionSite!
 

Ali Hirst (286)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 2:54 pm
There is a Tracking device on the site..dont\'t go there or your computer could be infected with spyware. If you already did go there run your spyware program and virus program. My computer crashed yesterday when I was getting the details for the petition...If you don't have a spyware program..download the FREE and SAFE "Spybot Search and Destroy".
 

Charles C. (160)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 2:57 pm
I give up.....I will never notify anyone on here again if I hear of a site like this, and sorry I did on this one!!!! FORGET THE PETITIONS, AS ALL YOU ARE DOING IS DRAWING MORE ATTENTION TO THE SITE....YOU HAVE JUST MADE HER DREAM COME TRUE......THANKS FOR PAYING ATTENTION TO MY EMAIL!!!!
 

Pamela R. (159)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 3:03 pm
Charles, NEVER GIVE UP... I submitted my comment earlier today without going to the site. She must be
a terribly sick person, and, your warnings were heeded by at least one person (me), and I'm certain many more! Never stop sharing, please.
 

Charles C. (160)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 3:27 pm
Thanks Pamela......I am glad you took the time to read what I said.
I will always keep you aware, but limiting my emails to most others that paid no attention to the context of the email. The purpose is to stop these kind of things from happening, not glorifying them by drawing people to them.....I am ashamed of all that got my email and completely ignored the part about don't go there......instead dragged everyone else there as well!!!!!
Thank you also Shell D. for your wise comment....that is what my email stated!!!
Not noted..........
 

Brenda H. (29)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 4:43 pm
I didn't go to the site--I never go to sick, disturbing sites--I can't!! I will sign the petition though!
 

Brenda H. (29)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 4:49 pm
Prima the petition link isn't there anymore, I just tried it.
 

Ali Hirst (286)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 4:59 pm
Don't scare me like that Brenda...I had to edit it this morning as there are no Porn links..petition is still there.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/against-cat-killer-child-porn-website
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 8:11 pm
Brenda,
The link is still working. Just go back if it does not work a minute.
Make sure when you copy/paste that the words Why is this inapropriate?
does not show up in it..

You can see the posts are cut off here right
at the ends and if you go to far it adds those words..

Thank You Helen ! It's there & works...
My only regret is posting any links originally. I thought people really wouldn't go there and keep going back .
Please just sign the petition?

Personally what Karen wrote is what concerns me. These legal loopholes.


Karen Lotter (35) Saturday August 4, 2007, 10:04 am
I guess none of you read Dutch? There is a link to the Dutch - Animals Protection Society and they have a statement saying that this woman Katinka, is an artist and only uses already dead animals, doesn't actually kill them, but that they have warned her about the tastelessness of the work. I don't really understand so called performance artists at the best of times, but I guess if she isn't killing cats for her "art," it's going to be hard to throw any law at her for being a "sicko". As for the porn aspect - the laws are different in European countries. It gives me the creeps, but so do plenty of things on the Net.


Charles,
You know what I am wondering? The first message you sent around had some brief information,the website and a link to her email address.
So when people get that message (Your first one) they are going right to the website. That's what it suggests.

Probably the message you saw or received.I don't know?

I saw you went back through and sent a 2nd one as soon as you knew more about it and it clearly states not to go there and why you shouldn't.

Charles you sent one message and re sent it stating clearly what not to do. Thank You !
You did the right thing....
Don't worry about it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I heard and have been severely upset about Agnes and I think we should sign this Petition and take a little time offline away from here and concentrate on a special woman. I was one of her first friends and the more I read in the posts and comments seeing her sweet ,kind face it makes me so sad.
Agnes is one of the strongest woman I know of. She's incredible !! This is not small talk and I was not going to comment publicly & certainly not here.
Then again ,why not?? I told something to Agnes that I never told a sole. It was not possible to. It was something so special to me. At this time I think stepping back for me and maybe others and thinking of something positve all for Agnes is an action we can all do naturally and from the heart.

She is strong and a coma is a way of the body shutting down not only to leave but to heal itself. So I am not going to think anything more than that..
I am never able to say I love people and I who could not love Agnes??
This woman is incredible and never ever complained except not being able to be on the computer enough.
Even people that have come across Agnes only for one time or in a thread can feel her energy . She's wonderful. The best.

I guess after reading all of this again I just want to think about Agnes . It hit me now the hardest so I posted. I'm not apologizing.


 

Charles C. (160)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 8:48 pm
Prima.....the reason the web address was included was strictly for purposes of reporting it, as obviously you cannot report a website without a web address!!!
And my first email stated not to go there, I still have it!!
I know I did the right thing, it was what all else did that upset me, including and mainly this post with a link to click on that brought everyone right where I asked not to go.......I am not worried about it, I just learned a lot about the difference between us.....and I am not trying to be rude, just very upset as to the way this was handled with due cause.
No matter what, I hope they take the site offline....but it will not be because of this post or petitions that accomplishes that...it will be because of all who reported it and I thank those people for doing the right thing!!!
 

Ali Hirst (286)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 8:59 pm
The Petition now has been re-edited again today because that site does contain links to CHILD PORN as well as the sick description of how to skin a cat and make a handbag. DON'T go to the site. Trust the integrity of the members here who saw the links, and I inadvertantly clicked on one when I was copying and pasting for a group and YES there is PORN there too. So the Petition is still against both reasons. Killing Cats to make Handbags or anything else, and to stop this child porn from going any further.
 

Ali Hirst (286)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 9:02 pm
Just go to the Petition and it explains it all..you don't need to go to the website and I am sure none of you want porn collected on your computer hard drive.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/against-cat-killer-child-porn-website
 

Marian E. (152)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 9:37 pm
For anyone who does not know- Persons with websites (website owners) can obtain sponsors. The
sponsors will pay each time the site is clicked on. If you don't agree with the site contents,
do not go to it!
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 11:20 pm
Look ; I regret posting this here. I am not perfect and I wont get into a long thing after I just had to write someone who told me off and is in this thread asking that I demand removal of all petitions.

That me a person who lives ONLY for animals and nothing else did this intentionally to GLORIFY ther website.
I regret posting .

It was a post that came into my group the second I was getting offline and obviously I did the wrong thing admitted above !!!

People who know me. Know I would never GLORIFY or do anything to encourage any animal or child abuse if involved.

Leave me alone to the person who harassed me ,accused me and told me off as if I did this intentionally.

I was demanded to have all petitions removed also.

I don't author petitions.

I also believe after Karen's post there's probably no hope with the exception if there are video's are youtube to get those removed.

I am so sorry and I hate care2 and the people like this.

I screwed up posting it here and I made sure no links are available in my group but in other groups all links/emails are available.

I am sorry for NOT being perfect.But do not ever accuse me of not caring about/for animals. It's the ONLY reason I'm alive.

The person could have talked to me if they had a problem with me.

Charles,your statement above. You do not ever say anything negative towards anyone on Care2 poublicly. I just saw that and had to copy it to read what it fully says since cut off. Don't publicly say anything negative about me or anyone.

 

Marian E. (152)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 11:30 pm
Well I am not aware of the problem re posting this. I personally think we need to be aware of this situation in order to do something about it. I thank you Prima, you were doing what we all want. We want to be informed and we want to try to do something to make things better.

 

Margaret Parker (1)
Saturday August 4, 2007, 11:55 pm
I have some influencial friends in the Netherlands, one is a prison psychiatrist and I have sent him an email with the link and information on Tinkerbell. I will call him in the morning and ask him what can be done to shut this website down and if there is a way to take this person into custody (and set up a session with a psychiatrist, as it seems to be needed). An investigatiion is definitely necessary. If there are no laws in the Netherlands against this, perhaps enough of an outcry from us will start a movement to stop this cruelty there. Will continue to monitor and sign the petition.
 

Charles C. (160)
Sunday August 5, 2007, 12:39 am
Prima....I never said that you do not care about animals...I know better!!
I know you are a good person and love animals.....I was merely stating my feelings about the link in this post to the website, which I know you stated that you regretted putting it in there, as I regretted the email that I sent out for all to report it and it did state not to go there, but I guess human nature, people were going to check it out for themselves anyway.....I apologize for anything that sounded negative, as I would hope you know me better than that......I was upset because everyone was visiting the website when I surely was not the only one in this post that advised not to go there.
I have reported the site to 5 different agencies, let's see what they do about it.
Anyway, I do hope the site gets taken down and the sicko meets with an accident of some kind like getting hit with lightning.....nature fighting back!!!
 

Alf I. (246)
Sunday August 5, 2007, 6:22 am
This site was flagged last year, I have written twice and gotten no reply. Have also reported her to authorities. What we need is a really good hacker!!! Send her a massive virus or something.
 

Alf I. (246)
Sunday August 5, 2007, 9:29 am
Just recieved today:
In response to the rising number of websites that promote, glamorize
or trivialize cruelty to animals, this information is to help you to do something to stop it. Much of what you see on the Internet is created for the purpose of drawing attention to the author's website. They are so disassociated with society that it doesn't matter to them if what they are displaying has any moral value. All they are concerned with is the attention -- whether good or bad -- motivates them to continue their effort to increase their hit count or reputation. To those types of sites, please ignore them. Hopefully, without the attention that they crave for, and the lack of interest in their site from others, they will go away.

In the past, we provided petitions and worked to have the sites removed. Even though this process was successful, it has also helped to draw attention to those sites. This has indirectly given support to those sites to make it eventually come back or encouraged others who thought alike to start one of their own cruelty websites. Now, we have several more, and efforts to remove them gets harder and harder everytime. That's why it is in the best interest of all concerned that we handle these things in another manner.

Should you find a site that is promoting animal cruelty, here is what you can do:

Do not contact the website. The author isn't interested in how you feel about him/her and what he/she is doing.

Do not provide website links and/or send emails to all of your friends and associates telling them about the site. Doing so would be promoting the site and, thusly, giving them what they want -- attention. It is what they crave and you would only be fueling their fire. Don't give them any satisfaction. If you have concerns about a web site, contact your elected officials but please do not contact friends and neighbors. Many well-intentioned individuals believe that the best course of action is to tell all of their friends and relatives about such web sites. Sometimes online petitions against a site will be generated. Ultimately, such petitions or mass emails will only increase the number of visitors to a website, encouraging the site's creator.

Contact the ISP who hosts the website to let them know about the abusive content. The administrative and technical contacts are who you should be sending your complaints to. The registrant is most likely the website author. To find out who is the ISP and other relevant information, you can use any one of the WHOIS tools available on the internet such as this one here: http://whois.domaintools.com

However, sometimes the origin of the site, the name and address under the site is registered could be inaccurate, incomplete or false. So far, it has been an uphill battle, as the only law that even remotely covers issues like this is a law that covers e-mailed obscenities; therefore, if the site is not in violation of the host's user agreement, no law is being violated, and the site can remain up. Some other sites similar to this one has been closed down several times before but continues to reappear with different Web addresses. Thus, in addition, you can also file a complaint at the reporting center website set up by the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) for Internet fraud and other forms of Internet crime here: http://www.ic3.gov

Hopefully, with enough complaints filed with the FBI, stressing the influence it may have on cases of actual cruelty, it will be removed permanently.

Know the Laws in your Area: http://www.h4ha.org/local-laws/index.php

If you are wondering on how you can generate more complaints to the FBI without promoting the sites, well, you could still do so by describing the websites and tell people what are the contents without providing the links, and also tell them why you can't provide it. I'm sure people will understand and cooperate.

Remember... provide the relevant website links only to the FBI and relevant authorities. Not to the public.

A show only happens when there is an audience so it's better to not ask people to go and see it. It will encourage abusers to create more shows.

Moreover, websites like these also contain tracking devices, hidden spywares, virus programs etc., that secretly enters people's computers which can seriously damage their computers and/or steal information without anyone knowing. In addition, websites like these can also have sponsors who place their advertisement and other obvious or non-obvious things, so everytime people click to go to their website, the sponsor will pay the owner more money. Other than being mentally disturbeb, this is another reason why some people do it, while others fake it because they know they will attract the general public including animal caring people. That's the whole idea. So, please don't fall into their trap!

Please understand how important this is to help animals. You will only make it worst for the animals by helping the abusers to promote their website for them, thus encouraging them to do more shows since you are bringing audience and support for them.

If you know of a real animal abuse in your community, contact your local authorities. Provide as much evidence to support your complaint as possible.

Animal cruelty hurts everyone, and it most certainly it is not funny.

"I have always held firmly to the thought that each one of us can do a little to bring some portion of misery to an end." ~ Albert Schweitzer
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday August 5, 2007, 9:45 am
Thank you Alf. But you forgot to put my name at the end ;-) But that's okay, as long it help the animals, I'm happy...
 

Carolyn M. (8)
Sunday August 5, 2007, 2:06 pm
I hope those people feel nothing but pain for the rest of their lives may they live a long terrible painfull life. I hope they can't be able to hurt anymore animals.
 

Pam W. (0)
Sunday August 5, 2007, 2:23 pm
Dang! I went to the site before reading the comments. This is just sick. I only scrolled down a little then left. I wish I had read everyones comments first. I did sign the petition but it still mentions links to porn.
I also wonder how many kids/adults may have landed on that sight by virtue of a typo when searching for 'Tinkerbell.'
 

Alf I. (246)
Sunday August 5, 2007, 3:47 pm
HUH NIck? I got that from myspace, its all good tho at least its getting around huh?!
 

Elizabeth N. (40)
Sunday August 5, 2007, 5:15 pm
Signed the petition. What a sick and disgusting person. Went to the site by mistake..... I would also suggest that people who have posts deleted read the entire deletion notice to understand why their post was deleted, and then further understand that the comment section below a horror story like this is not the place to attempt to battle your personal issues. This is about perverted animal cruelty, not if someone got a post deleted on a thread. What is really important here? Can't you keep the personal stuff personal and try to understand that it was an attempt not to give the web site any more hits that prompted the deletion.....
 

Ali Hirst (286)
Sunday August 5, 2007, 8:24 pm
I RECEIVED THIS FROM CARE2 THIS MORNING...THIS GOT A BUTTERFLY FOR POPULAR PETITION....THANKS TO ALL WHO ARE SIGNING THE PETITION....YOU ALL DESERVE KUDOS TOO.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sunday, August 5, 2007, 2:23 PM
Subject: Butterfly for: Popular petition AGAINST CAT KILLER WEBSITE/CHILD PORN LINKS
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thank you Helen!

The Care2 Team has sent you a butterfly

Butterflies are our way of saying "Thank You" for taking action.

You received this butterfly for Popular petition AGAINST CAT KILLER WEBSITE/CHILD PORN LINKS

Why a Butterfly?
Care2's goal is to help individuals make a positive impact on the world. The butterfly symbolizes your ability to make a difference.

The flap of a butterfly's wings in Brazil can set off a storm in Texas. Isn't that an amazing statement? Physicists call this theory "The Butterfly Effect" to explain how the breeze produced by a butterfly's wings could set of a series of reverberations that over time have a tremendous affect on weather patterns thousands of miles away. Now imagine the impact of millions of butterflies...

When we send you a Care2 Butterfly, it's our way of saying thank you for taking action. The reverberations from your actions, along with other Care2 members', will have tremendous positive effects on the world beyond which any of us can see.

Thank you!

 

Lauren Stone (586)
Sunday August 5, 2007, 9:48 pm
The petition states child porn because the site DOES CONTAIN CHILD PORN. That's why I mentioned it in the first place
 

Elizabeth N. (40)
Sunday August 5, 2007, 10:01 pm
The petition is excellent.

I want to know why our comments are being cut off at the end of sentences....
 

Ali Hirst (286)
Sunday August 5, 2007, 10:05 pm
In less than 48 hrs we have 548 signitures...Way to go Care2 members. Lets reach the 1000
so we can get this site off the Internet fast!!!
 

Ali Hirst (286)
Sunday August 5, 2007, 10:06 pm
This is a Care2 glitch on this page. So hit enter early
and cut your length of sentence down so
it all fits in the screen.
 

Nina M. (24)
Monday August 6, 2007, 12:44 pm
where is the petition please?!!! OMG
 

Joanne D. Ferguson (563)
Friday August 10, 2007, 5:08 am
I am disgusted by this and sickened. I can't understand how someone can do such things.
These people need to be thrown in jail and never allowed to have any animals again.
 

Candi Ausman (69)
Friday August 10, 2007, 2:36 pm
Here's the link once again:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/against-cat-killer-child-porn-website

 

Ali Hirst (286)
Friday August 10, 2007, 2:42 pm
I will be wrapping up this petition sometime today...so anyone who wishes to sign it please do so as I need to get it to friends on Care2 in the Netherlands so they can hand deliver this petition to the Authorities there.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday August 10, 2007, 7:23 pm
Truly sick!! I am speechless!
 

Mary Kay Thompson (23)
Saturday August 11, 2007, 7:07 am
There are thousands of sick website out there, but this one ranks right at the top for me. This woman is deeply sick. We need to get her shut down. My God! I couldn't believe my eyes. Sick!!!
 

Ash S. (0)
Saturday August 11, 2007, 4:08 pm
That was terribly disturbing! I will admit I'm not a fan of cats, but that was disgusting!!!
 

Geri H. (25)
Sunday August 12, 2007, 11:05 am
This is such a shame!!! Why do people get off on this! I just don't understand! I look at my furbabies and cry that someone could be so cruel.
 

Lauren Stone (586)
Monday August 13, 2007, 1:26 am
Well, I AM a cat person, but THAT is NOT the part that disturbed me so greatly. It is the child porn on the site and the fact that with the site name being as it is, as someone else said previously, that a child looking for a Disney site could easily mistype the name and end up on this sick site!
 

Eileen R. (13)
Monday August 13, 2007, 11:00 pm
what needs to be done is for people to stop going to her site. for she is an attention seeker of the worst kind. Also start complaining to the companies supporting her such as j@stimulusresponse.org whom does the web count , her site gets over 6000 hits a day. also google supports her by showing her garbage on e-tube. she is very proud of articles and gets off on the insults. The best thing would be for people not to look at the site for she would lose the attention she so desperately seeks. i wish care2 would discontinue the articles because this is what she wants. It will be posted on her website and the above link shows how many hits she is getting from care2. So if you want to stop her get rid of the articles.
 

Marian E. (152)
Monday August 13, 2007, 11:08 pm
Lauren Stone, I find your pic sensitive and beautiful. Is it a picture of you and one of your children?

 

Ali Hirst (286)
Monday August 13, 2007, 11:09 pm
Eilleen R, we are not visiting the disgraceful site since we got the information we needed for the petition. YOU are obviously visiting the site or you would not have these numbers. And while I am on this thread, LEAVE Lauren alone, what is wrong with her Avatar...God gave women the right to breastfeed and it is people like you who are prudes when you see someone breastfeeding in public...
 

Charles C. (160)
Tuesday August 14, 2007, 6:08 am
Eileen, I have to agree with Helen....I see no problem with Lauren's avatar and that was
pretty damn rude of you to make such a comment!! Also, you obviously have been to the
site enough to have those stats. You show up here on this thread 10 days after it has
been posted and start off by insulting people and telling them what to do and
what not to do......No wonder you only have 1 friend since March 2000......the do
not go to the site was established a long time ago, seems like you are probably the
only one on care2 that is still going there!!
 

Elle J. (282)
Thursday August 16, 2007, 2:39 pm
I have absolutely no idea what is going on. I made a report on this site sometime ago with information given to me but I can't remember who gave it to me. Most likely it was one of the people on my friends list. I, too cannot visit explicit sites. I have a strong stomach but not when it comes to the mistreatment of animals or children. Can't and won't tolerate it. If there is more that needs to be done, please let me know.
 

Marissa C. (0)
Friday August 17, 2007, 11:17 am
What people don't understand is that this person is trying to prove a point; how is it any different when one kills a cow? She stated on her site (yes I looked) that all animals have souls and it is unfair to kill the ones we haven't really gotten to know (my words). There was an article written about her in Germany but its in english. Anyone that isn't vegetarian shouldn't be throwing stones.
 

Christian G. (77)
Saturday August 18, 2007, 2:47 am
Signed and noted. Did NOT visit the site.
 

Jackson L. (1)
Wednesday December 26, 2007, 2:03 am
Man, this one was a fiery fight to address cruelty. I too signed the petition and noted. I did not even think about visiting the site. No way am I ever. This kind of cruelty needs awareness without the audience.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday January 23, 2008, 4:12 pm
Noted, with thanks.
Have seen the interview of this Lady Tinkebell, and she really is a lunatic ....
Evert Jan
 
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