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VIDEO:Democracy Now! | Noam Chomsky: Obama's Stance on Gaza Crisis "Approximately the Bush Position


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Cheryl
- 2156 days ago - democracynow.org
Interview with Amy Goodman of Democracy Now and Noam Chomsky, on Obama's stance on the Gaza crisis. Video, and rush transcripts available on site.



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Eleanor B. (909)
Sunday January 25, 2009, 5:30 am
This is not a surprise but it is still a huge disappointment. There will never be peace in the Middle East as long as Israel is allowed to behave in the way it has in Gaza. I would like to know what Mr Obama thinks of the atrocities perpetrated by the Israelis? Does he care about human beings or not? Palestinians are human beings though they are not treated as such by the Israeli government and army.
 

Pamylle G. (462)
Sunday January 25, 2009, 7:38 am
This was a great interview; I've listened to it twice. Obama is taking exactly the position he said he would when he ran for office - no surprise here. I can only hope the resolutions work out to be more just than I have reason to believe.

 

Marieema T. (227)
Sunday January 25, 2009, 9:00 am
Yes , not jump into conclusions, give time to whatever is happening !!!
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (581)
Sunday January 25, 2009, 1:13 pm
Agreed, Ladies.
Let's all be cool, and be patient
with President Obama. He hasn't even been
President for a full week yet, y'know, and
the guy is only human like we are!
Patience is a virtue, so let's all get virtuous!

Thank you, Cheryl!
noted :-)
 

Marian E. (152)
Sunday January 25, 2009, 1:18 pm

Please send your thoughts and views on this to him and let him know that
you do not agree with the support of Israel.

Thank you again Cheryl Sunshine Benson.
 

Yvonne White (233)
Sunday January 25, 2009, 1:19 pm
I hope Obama will listen to former Pres. Carter on the Palestinian issue. It's the 21st century & it's time the Middle East entered it!
 

Janet Solomon (231)
Sunday January 25, 2009, 9:06 pm
I agree, Yvonne. There needs to be MAJOR restructuring and development in that area with regards to just the basics---food, shelter, clean water, freedom of passage--thank you again, Cheryl--it's a BIG issue with passionate religious ties as well, which makes is practically unique in the world. I do not understand why the Palestinians would not want MECCA rather than Jerusalem [?!?]---but in any case, we MUST learn to co-exist--*#*@~~$$$
namaste! xo
 

nour a. (21)
Monday January 26, 2009, 6:54 am
If we really want peace we have to cooperate to achieve it and have a hope in future . and about the member who ask why the Palestinians wouldn't want MECCA rather than Jerusalem ? i will say because It's their land so why they leave it and go to another place .
there are enough land on this planet to all people if we just accept and respect each other and treat each other in humen way
 

Rana C. (4)
Monday January 26, 2009, 8:51 am
Gotta love Chomsky- no B.S in what he's got to say. It's true that unless the U.S- backed Israeli takeover of the West Bank is addressed, none of the other problems will be being given any real consideration. So any action that may be taken will be, essentially, a band aid solution.
As for having patience with Obama, it would be nice if we lived in the kind of world that could afford to have patience, but when innocent civilians (need I remind everyone that scores of them are children?) are living in fear and dying violent deaths at the hands of oppressors, the issue is most pressing and immediate action is urgently required. Patience may be a virtue, but not when it masks complacency. I doubt any Palestinians feel the need to maintain their virtue by being patient with the new president, and I find it shocking that it can be so easy for anyone to say "be cool, be patient, let's wait to see what happens". I guess it goes to show how far away we all really are from the trouble and turmoil. It's all just the stuff of television, and we'll never be carrying our chilren's broken and bleeding bodies to undersupplied, makeshift hospitals, so what's the hurry?
Obama ran for the presidency knowing damn well that he would be making his appearance on the world stage at an extremely difficult, chaotic time, and that he would have his work cut out for him (especially in having to pick up the pieces of the Bush disaster.) He cannot seriously expect for people to have patience with him, nor is it fair to the rest of the world for us, here in the west, to have patience with him. His job comes with a whole lot of responsibility. Let him take it.
 

Rana C. (4)
Monday January 26, 2009, 8:55 am
One of the comments that really bugs me: "give time to whatever is happening". What's happening is that people are dying by the thousands! Does this really deserve to be given any more time?
 

pete O. (242)
Tuesday January 27, 2009, 3:17 am
Thanks 8@)
 

Simon Wood (207)
Wednesday January 28, 2009, 4:19 am
Rana wrote:

'One of the comments that really bugs me: "give time to whatever is happening". What's happening is that people are dying by the thousands! Does this really deserve to be given any more time?'

I totally agree.And I want to add to what Rana wrote....

Why "be patient" and do nothing, trusting Obama to do what he promised? He has promised to oontinue U.S. support for Israel (e.g. the yearly $3-4 billion military aid from the USA to Israel), and he has spoken against Palestine. I DO TRUST HIM to carry out that promise, and THAT IS AN EXTREMELY GOOD REASON WHY ANYONE WHO CARES ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE WILL *NOT* "be patient" LETTING OBAMA DO WHAT HE PROMISED!!! THAT IS WHY WE WILL CAMPAIGN AGAINST OBAMA'S PRO-ISRAEL, ANTI-PALESTINE POLICY!!!

(On top of all of that, there is the simple principle that if we are genuine about accomplishing anything, we will NOT leave management of the world in the hands of rulers. We will instead always be active, to ensure that ever-present pressures from the corporations and billionaires and political corruption do not continue to get their way in the world.)

When Israel stops its military terrorism, and other oppression against the people of Palestine (which means ending Israel's blockade of Gaza and military occupation of the West Bank), and when Israel agrees to the 2-state solution (that the world and Hamas all agree to - but Israel and the USA have refused), including the right for Palestinian refugees to return, then there will be a lasting peace.

When the USA stops supporting Israel (e.g. ends the annual $3 billion military aid to Israel), then Israel will be forced to end its aggressive, expansionist and genocidal policies.
 

Simon Wood (207)
Wednesday January 28, 2009, 8:15 am
Janet Solomon, you wrote: "I agree, Yvonne. There needs to be MAJOR restructuring and development in that area with regards to just the basics---food, shelter, clean water, freedom of passage--thank you again, Cheryl--it's a BIG issue with passionate religious ties as well, which makes is practically unique in the world."

Unique? Please learn some history. The founding and expansion of modern Israel is very similar to every colonial conquest in history. It has many parallels with the history of the U.S.A., where the Europeans committed genocide against the Indigenous people, to steal their land. It is quite similar to the Europeans' colonization of South Africa, and the apartheid system they set up there. As for religions being part of a conflict, well, that is common, too. That was one of the factors in those colonial conquests - the Indigenous people of the Americas did not believe in the christian dogma and superstition - it was forced upon them in a campaign of cultural imperialism.

And even look at the British empire's conquest of Ireland - religion was a factor there, too - catholics and protestants. In fact, Noam Chomsky even discussed that in the above video.

"I do not understand why the Palestinians would not want MECCA rather than Jerusalem [?!?]---but in any case, we MUST learn to co-exist--*#*@~~$$$
namaste! xo"

Huh? Who offered Mecca to the people of Palestine? That wasn't in the video. Where did you get that idea from? I very much doubt that the government of Saudi Arabia has offered to let all the Palestinian refugees settle in Mecca. And no-one else has the sovereign jurisdiction to authorise a Palestinian immigration to Mecca.

I guess you are just questioning why Jerusalem is important to Muslims. Well, in case you didn't know, Islam reveres the prophets of Judaism and Christianity. Therefore Jerusalem is important to Muslims for more or less the same reasons as it is to Christians and religious Jews. On top of that, Jerusalem has an extra significance to Muslims. E.g. they believe something like "Jerusalem was the place where Muhammad ascended to Heaven".

By the way, in case you didn't know, not all Palestinian people are Muslim. Why would Palestinian Christians and Palestinian atheists and agnostics want to live in Mecca?

But anyway, like other people have said, Jerusalem is in the homeland of the people of Palestine. That is their home. You have no right to push them out of it.
 
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