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US - Israeli Hypocrisy


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Cheryl Su
- 203 days ago - zmag.org
Two nations stand out above all others as notorious serial abusers of UN resolutions - the US and Israel. Over the last half century, the US has used its Security Council veto many dozens of times to prevent any resolutions from passing condemning Israel
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Cheryl Sunshine Benson (524)
Friday May 8, 2009, 5:38 am
US - Israeli UN Resolution Hypocrisy
US - Israeli UN Resolution Hypocrisy
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Two nations stand out above all others as notorious serial abusers of UN resolutions - the US and Israel. Over the last half century, the US has used its Security Council veto many dozens of times to prevent any resolutions from passing condemning Israel for its abusive or hostile actions or that were inimical to Israeli interests. It's also voted against dozens of others overwhelmingly supported by the rest of the world in the UN General Assembly. By its actions and with 6% of the world's population, the US has thus arrogantly ignored the will of nearly all the other 94% to support its client state even when Israel had committed war crimes or crimes against humanity the rest of the world demanded it be held to account for. In the words of one UK observer using a baseball analogy: "Only the USA could have a World Series and not invite the rest of the world."

The Israeli record on UN resolutions over that same period is far worse. With full US support for its actions, it's flagrantly and with little or no pretense routinely ignored over five dozen UN Resolutions condemning or censuring it for its actions against the Palestinians or other Arab people, deploring it for committing them, or demanding, calling on or urging the Jewish state to end them. Israel never did or intends to up to the present, including the mass slaughter and destruction it's now inflicting on the people of Lebanon and the Palestinians in their Territories that Israel illegally occupies and attacks whenever it wishes. It does so with impunity using any contrived pretext it can get away with to deny the Palestinians any chance ever for a viable sovereign independent state and to avoid a political solution with them it won't ever tolerate.


UN Resolutions As Examples of US and Israeli Hypocrisy

Consider now three UN Resolutions as examples of gross hypocrisy - one Israel and its US paymaster and benefactor support and two others both countries do not so they ignore them. In September, 2004, the Security Council passed UN Resolution 1559, cosponsored by the US and France, that called on Syria to withdraw its military forces from Lebanon and stop intervening in the Lebanese political process. It also demanded all Lebanese and non-Lebanese militias (aimed mainly at Hezbollah, of course) disarm and disband (meaning surrender). Following the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister, Rafik Hariri, in February, 2005, Syria bowed to international pressure and complied fully with the resolution by April. In so doing, it ended its 29 year occupation of the part of the country it controlled which excluded the rest in the South under Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) control that Israel maintained after its invasion of Southern Lebanon in 1978 and again in 1982. Hezbollah's military resistance wing did not comply. Had it done so, it would have left itself and the Shia third of the Lebanese population dependent on it defenseless against the Israelis. The Lebanese government and its small and weak security forces had no power to force Hezbollah's compliance and were unable to do it.

Hezbollah was born out of the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 and the oppressive occupation that followed. It's a popular resistance movement, much like and in the same spirit as the French Resistance freedom fighters the Nazis called terrorists, formed to resist their illegal occupiers and expel them. Ever since, it's continued as an effective resistance force against the Israelis that finally withdrew from Lebanon in May, 2000 but maintained its occupation of the 25 square kilometer area of South Lebanon known as Shebaa Farms it never relinquished after seizing it in the 1967 war. Hezbollah, the Lebanese people and its government demand Israel give it back as well as cease its frequent hostile cross-border incursions, unjustifiable abductions, repeated violations of the country's airspace as well as end its current brutal assault and invasion of their country once again. To continue being an effective resistance force, Hezbollah remained armed, has every right to do so in its own self-defense whatever resolutions the UN passes, and will continue resisting Israeli oppression until it ends. It's now doing it against a vastly superior IDF invasion force in South Lebanon far more effectively than the Israeli government is willing to admit.

Now consider UN Resolutions 465 and 476. The Security Council unanimously adopted UN Resolution 465 in March, 1980 that addressed Israel's illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories of the West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem and the Syrian Golan Heights. Among other provisions in it, it condemned Israel's policy of "setting parts of its population and new Immigrants in those territories (and said doing so constituted) a flagrant violation of the fourth Geneva Convention relative to the protection of civilian persons in time of war and also constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East." It called on the government of Israel to "dismantle the existing settlements and in particular to cease....the establishment, construction and planning of (new) settlements in the Arab territories since 1967, including Jerusalem."

In the last 26 years, Israel has flagrantly violated this resolution and still continues to build new settlements illegally in the Palestinian Occupied Territories. The US supports and funds the Israeli government enabling it to do it, and the UN and world community have taken no action to bring Israel into compliance which it could do by imposing sanctions severe enough to force Israel to stop new settlement construction, dismantle the existing ones and make restitution to the Palestinians and Syrians for the harm caused them.

The Security Council also passed Resolution 476 in June, 1980. Like Resolution 465, it, too, reaffirms the necessity to end the Israeli occupation of Arab territories ongoing since the 1967 war. It went on to condemn Israel for its continued refusal to do it or to comply with the relevant Security Council and General Assembly resolutions demanding it does. It repeated provisions detailed in Resolution 465 and reaffirmed its determination in the event of Israeli non-compliance to examine practical ways to get it to do so. Israel never complied, and the UN never took action to see that it did. Also, by its reinvasion of Lebanon now and its unending occupation of the Shebaa Farms area it's held since 1967, Israel is also in violation of UN resolution 425 and nine additional ones demanding the withdrawal of its forces from South Lebanon. The net effect of UN action - many relevant and high-sounding words and speeches amounting to nothing, at least when it concerns Israel.


The Hypocrisy of the US Congress

Now consider a further gross hypocrisy. On July 20, the US House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly 410 - 8 to unconditionally endorse Israel's illegal aggression against the Palestinians and people of Lebanon. Earlier in the week, the US Senate passed a similar resolution by voice vote, but added a worthless and outrageous clause that "urges all sides to protect innocent civilian life and infrastructure." The House version showed no such disingenuous delicacy, and in language Orwell would love, actually praised Israel for "minimizing civilian loss" ignoring the obvious evidence to the contrary.

Along with its arrogance, the Congressional resolution violated the UN Charter by unjustifiably claiming Israel has the right of self-defense guaranteed it under Article 51 and thus has just cause to destroy Lebanon's infrastructure and kill innocent civilians to do it. Once again, Orwell would approve. These House and Senate resolutions are compelling evidence of both parties' unconditional support for Israel whatever it does. They also show the Bush administration's utter contempt for all international laws and norms and its unconditional endorsement of Israel when it violates them as it did so egregiously in its outrageous attack on a civilian target in Qana on July 30 killing 60 or more innocent men, women and at least 37 children.

The Congressional resolution also unjustifiably accused, and by implication condemned, Lebanon for failing to observe UN Resolution 1559 by not disbanding and disarming Hezbollah and allowing it instead to amass thousands of rockets and other weapons. It also criticized the legitimate integration of Hezbollah into the Lebanese government where it's represented by 11 democratically elected lawmakers in the Parliament and two ministers in the country's cabinet. The Congressional resolution ignores the fact that UN Resolution 1559 calls only for Hezbollah's armed militia to be disarmed and disbanded, regardless of how unreasonable that demand
is.

For Lebanon's failure to enforce UN Resolution 1559, including provisions not even in it, the US Congress, in effect, gave Israel its approval to destroy the country and kill many hundreds of its people. At the same time, Israel never complied with UN Resolutions 465 and 476 demanding it withdraw from the Occupied Territories and Golan Heights it holds illegally, UN Resolution 425 and nine others making the same demand it remove its forces from all Lebanese territory, and all the dozens of other UN resolutions Israel routinely violates or disregards.

The US Congress, UN, world leaders and most Arab states remain committed to Israel overtly or tacitly. They've done it despite Israel's many violations including the crime of aggression in its ongoing brutal assaults on Lebanon and the Occupied Territories that it falsely and disingenuously claims to be a justifiable response to the capture (not kidnapping) of three of its soldiers, a minor provocation at most. At the same time, the Congress and world leaders remain silent refusing to condemn Israel for its failure to comply with UN Resolutions 465, 476, 425, nine similar ones. and all the other UN resolutions against it for the past half century.

The message is clear. When it comes to the UN, the US runs the show, and no substantive or significant action can be taken with teeth unless it approves - especially when it applies to Israel, in part, because of the power of the Israeli lobby in the US. Also, all actions of a valued US client state are quite acceptable, even when they violate the UN Charter and international law, so long as they serve Washington's interests. Israel's illegal aggression in Lebanon and the Occupied Territories clearly do. In spite of it, the US, as de facto ruler of the world, has given the Israelis carte blanche to run amuck and commit the supreme war crime with impunity. In the kind of world Orwell understood, Israel's mass killing and destruction is in the US's imperial interest, especially in the strategically important Middle East where oil is central to all else, so its scorched-earth policy is quite acceptable and may go on unabated and end only when the two allies decide to stop it. It doesn't matter what the law is or that the innocent are paying the supreme price for its violation.

Peacekeeping Hypocrisy

A brief word about still more hypocrisy. The US, UK and Israel have called for a robust international military force (Israel appears to want a NATO run one) to serve as "peacekeepers" in South Lebanon once Israel ceases its aggression and allows it to come in. No one is considering the wishes of Hezbollah, the people of South Lebanon it serves or the Lebanese government. Only Israel and its US and UK allies are to be allowed to decide or whatever other countries Israel is willing to allow in the decision-making loop. It's also undiscussed publicly what Israel really has in mind, how oppressive the Christian South Lebanon Army (SLA) was when it acted as Israel's occupying enforcer after 1978 or how ineffective the current UN Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) has been since it was first put in place in 1978 and never succeeded in establishing peace or security.

So what's really going on? After just days on the ground inside Lebanon, the IDF is finding the going very rough. It's already admitted to taking significant losses with dozens of its soldiers killed and hundreds more injured in intense fighting with a determined and resilient Hezbollah force as committed now to expelling an invading Israeli force as it was in the 1980s and 1990s when it succeeded in doing it. Clearly the IDF is struggling and taking more losses than it's willing to continue sustaining. So it wants instead to have a proxy army it can control come into South Lebanon, again act as its enforcers, engage Hezbollah in confrontation if necessary and have it do its killing and dying for it. Will Hezbollah and the people of South Lebanon now allow it in when they were unwilling to accept their SLA and UNIFIL occupiers in the past? Not a chance, Israel and the US know it, and yet both countries are going through the charade of trying to convince the world, the Lebanese people throughout the country, and its government that they will. Once the fighting ends, the IDF likely will withdraw and an occupying force acceptable to Israel will move in to serve in its place. It will be as unwelcome as the others that preceded it and eventually it will be driven out. But before it is, many more will die and suffer, and the long struggle of the Lebanese people and Palestinians as well in the Occupied Territories will go on unresolved.

 

Pastor Tim Redfern (515)
Friday May 8, 2009, 9:50 am
Wasn't the UN the U.S.'s idea to begin with?
I think it was.
"Hypocrisy" is anice word to use, and I could
think of many more that are NOT so nice.
Perhaps now that this hypocrisy is being sopken
of and complained about openly, something will
be done about it. The problem there is that, so far,
Ban Ki-Moon has been the lapdog of the U.S.and Israel.
As Sec'y. Gen'l., Mr Ban has talked a good game against
the U.S. and Israel, but he always caves in.
There are, I believe, roughly 192 nations that aremembers
of the U.N.
To say the majority of them are Islamic does not even
pass the laugh test. I guess the quality of the crapaganda
coming from our resident Mossad agent just isn't as good
as it needs to be.
btw, the World Series thing has always bothered me, too,
but that's neither here nor there.
Thank you kindly, sweet Cheryl!
noted.
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (515)
Friday May 8, 2009, 2:40 pm
Huh?!
Who the hell is "Tommy"?!
Assuming you're referring to
me, Mister Mossad, I'm an agent
of Peace, among other things.
And my friendship with Cheryl is
something that, sadly, you'll never
have. That's who she is-is.
Oh, by the way! Don't forget your
agency's motto:
"By way of deception shalt thou do war".
 

Aletta Kraan (31)
Friday May 8, 2009, 7:04 pm
Noted, thanks .
 

Lili O. (15)
Friday May 8, 2009, 8:30 pm
Absolute disgust !!
 

Yvonne Mendes Siblini (191)
Friday May 8, 2009, 9:51 pm
The day will soon come when all will be brought to justice. I just hope that it wont be too late.
 

Marty H. (71)
Saturday May 9, 2009, 1:12 am
Thanks Cheryl and noted!
 

Elainna Crowell (157)
Saturday May 9, 2009, 2:35 am
Thank you Cheryl, I've long despaired over the plight of the Palestinians and fail to understand why the US turns a blind eye to Israeli aggression.
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (515)
Saturday May 9, 2009, 4:00 am
Care2 Support has kindly removed
the abusive comment that was posted
against me. That's why my second
comment above makes no sense.
Hey, C2 Support, could you remove
my second comment? Thanks!
 

Lindsey O. (209)
Saturday May 9, 2009, 4:49 am
No question that the U.S. has used its veto power numerous times, and not always justly. Just as others have in a wide variety of instances. As Russia and China vetoed sanctions against Zimbabwe and its murderous President Mugabe. And opposed sanctions against Sudan. The old Soviet Union was notorious for its political maneuverings in the U.N.

The U.S. is merely one of many U.N. nations which votes according to political realities and special interests rather than alway on the basis of justice. And I recall all the recent condemnation by the members of the Arab League who opposed any U.N. action against the Sudanese president for the genocide in Darfur and their attempts to block any war crimes indictment against him.

National and ideological self-interest appears to be the order of the day politically throughout the world. And always has been.
 

Beth H. (12)
Saturday May 9, 2009, 1:12 pm
Anyone ever notice that Israel is a sliver of land surrounded by Muslim countries who want it wiped off the face of the earth? And while we are at it,lets not forget it was the UN and others who allowed it to become a sovereign state. So how much land should Israel give up now? And how about Texas, California and five other BIG states that also make up most if the income Americans have, take over New York City since its about the size of Israel.


~Beth~
 

Suri S. (41)
Saturday May 9, 2009, 1:59 pm
Beth u r right the UN and the others are totally responsible for what`s happening in Palestine ... the only problem is that it happened so long ago most people don`t remember anymore . I think if they had taken Madagascar things wouldn`t be so bad .... At least they would be living in an island AWAY from the rest of the world .

Most people that know a little bit of recent history know which are the top 5 terrorist countries :

1- U.S.A (If u r American please dont take it personal , no harm intended)
2.- Israel
3- ( whom ever the US wants)
4.-(whom ever the US wants)
5- (whom ever the US wants)

Israel is the US`s " MINI ME" , if you know what I mean lol

So much hypocrisy makes me sick and what is worse is that this proves that such things as : Dempcracy , justice and the like are nothing but a big fantasy politicians have created in order to do whatever they want (legal or illegal)
 

Cheryl Sunshine Benson (524)
Saturday May 9, 2009, 2:08 pm
The terms of the League of Nations Mandates had an origin outside of the organization. They were drafted in the councils of the Allies of World War I. The League of Nations could not alter the terms of a mandate in any substantial way.[5] It was the original intention of the League of Nations that the Mandatory regime in Palestine would lead to independence.

In 1937, members of the Permanent Mandates Commission of the League of Nations had privately informed the leadership of the Jewish Agency that the Palestine Mandate could not be implemented according to the Agency's wishes. Faced with the prospect of remaining a minority in greater Palestine, the Jewish Agency Executive decided that partition was the only way out of the impasse.[6] The principle of partition was placed on the agenda of the Twentieth Zionist Congress. In a 15 July 1937 editorial, David Ben-Gurion implied that partition could never be an acceptable long-term solution: 'The Jewish people have always regarded, and will continue to regard Palestine as a whole, as a single country which is theirs in a national sense and will become theirs once again. No Jew will accept partition as a just and rightful solution.'[7] During the Congress, Ben Gurion supported the proposal to partition Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state.[8] At the same time, he delivered speeches which made it clear that he did not accept partition as a final solution: 'If I had been faced with the question: a Jewish state in the west of the land of Israel in return for giving up on our historical right to the entire land of Israel I would have postponed the establishment of the state. No Jew is entitled to give up the right of the Jewish nation to the land. It is not in the authority of any Jew or of any Jewish body; it is not even in the authority of the entire nation alive today to give up any part of the land'... ...'this is a standing right under all conditions. Even if, at any point, the Jews choose to decline it, they have no right to deprive future generations of it. Our right to the entire land exists and stands for ever.'[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_UN_Partition_Plan

anyone ever notice that the zionists planned to take Palestine along time prior and that Jewish lives were of no consequence or Palestinians, or Arabs, as long as the Zionists got it adn they were involved WITH THE NAZI'S TO GET IT!. The land is not theirs by God, and historically is over 2,000 years ago.

Ever notice that Zionist Israeli's are engaged in GENOCIDE and ETHIC CLEASNIGN of indigneous peoples of Palestine for over 60 years, with the help of the good old USA including WAR CRIMES adn that that zionist terroists were bombing in Palestine, people , hotels, etc, to 1947 and prior! Oh but they are called militants and others defending their land terrorists, and the Nakba expelling over 750,000 Palestinians OUT OF PALESTINE who HAVE NO RIGHT OF RETURN, but ANY ONE THAT IS JEWISH OR COVERTS TO IT ANY WHERE IF THE WORLD CAN!

Israel is a terrorist racist state. They have the 5th strongest army in the world, and are often the aggressor and change history to suit themsevles, which they teach their kids in school.

As for the UN, I find it mostly useless, and as mentioned used to suit the needs of certain countries and not others and it was set up TO STOP WARS not CREATE THEM,. they did just a find job regarding that in Palestine.

The USA giving $30 billion inmilitary aid alone, $10,000/per israeli per year ecomonically.

Israel is also has 68 UN VIOLATIONS.

Palestine is military OCCUPATION.
US & Israel Vote against UN Res. Condemning Terrorism

On Dec 7th, 1987, 153 UN member states unanimously endorsed Res. 42/159 condemning Terrorism.

Except, only 2 countries voted against it!

The United States & Israel.

Why?

Paragraph 14:

"14. Considers that nothing in the present resolution could in any way prejudice the right to self-determination, freedom and independence, as derived from the Charter of the United Nations, of peoples forcibly deprived of that right referred to in the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, particularly peoples under colonial and racist regimes and foreign occupation or other forms of colonial domination, nor, in accordance with the principles of the Charter and in conformity with the above-mentioned Declaration, the right of these peoples to struggle to this end and to seek and receive support;"

- Paragraph 14. A/Res/42/159

http://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/42...


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America has voted alone (or alongside Israel) on over 200 UNGA resolutions critical of Israeli Policy.

America has VETOED 39 MAJOR UN Security Council resolutions to shield Israel from criticism.

Search for the UN document:

A/58/47(SUPP)

On the UN doc archive site:

http://documents.un.org/

For full list of UN vetoes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZWpzA1OPoc

How about Israel giving the land back to the 1967 or 1948 boarders, forceablly haul the illegal settlers OFF the land and give Palestine back to Palestinians in 2 state solution which ISRAEL DOESN'T WANT, they WANT LAND AND WATER.

It may come to the point and many write about this and advocate for ONE STATE SOLUTION. the zionists and the USA have gone too far long time ago, and I regret to say my own country Canada has supported Israel much behind Canadians backs, and agreements signed that are ILLEGAL.

The Israel Lobby is TOO STRONG, and needs to be checked as well.

As for the Arab states, Israel has always had more miltary arms, even in the early years, they preach other wise, they were armed from Russia and others and the Arabs and Palestinians didn't have a chance

What people would happily let others take over their land unless it's being liberated from war? Even then often they don't want their so called liberators.
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (515)
Saturday May 9, 2009, 8:40 pm
Me, a victim?
No, not so much, Joshco.
Maybe just a victim of the
bad circumstances that ruined
my health, but other than that,
I'm no victim....not at all.

"Why does US give aid to those who hate her?"
Simple question, simple answer:
Because the US Govt. is a cheap whore that
likes to cover all her bases, and thinks the
way to solve any problem is to throw money
(and her military) at it.

Here's a better question for ya, Josh-Dude:
Why do trolls make it so easy to refute their
weak, pathetic, Rupert Murdoch-esque bullsh*t?
Oh, wait a minute, I just answered my own question!

How come you never NOTE these stories, Joshco?
Do you think God might send you to hell if you do?
Oh, never mind.
Go turn on your TV, I think it's almost time for
Bill O'Reilly, or Sean Hannity, or one of those
wastes of space.
 

Beth H. (12)
Saturday May 9, 2009, 9:06 pm
Lets be honest. For centuries countries have bribed leaders of other countries like cheap whores. And its always been the average citizens who have paid the price. Wish there were a way to wipe the slate clean and start anew. Like getting back to what the Founding Fathers invisioned with one person one vote and not one big business after another getting all the say.
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (515)
Sunday May 10, 2009, 1:56 am
I absolutely agree with you, Beth.
That's a good comment from you.
In his farewell address, George Washington
warned the country to "avoid foreign entanglements".
I believe that as soon as his words faded on the
wind, they had also faded from the memories of his listeners.
Two hundred and some years later, take a look at the
mess we're in. There is no way of wiping the slate clean,
not without shedding a river of blood, and no one wants
to do that.....I genuinely hope.
 

Nancy Bell (2)
Sunday May 10, 2009, 8:55 am
We cannot wipe the slate clean when there is so much blood on our own hands.
 

Beth H. (12)
Sunday May 10, 2009, 1:17 pm
To wipe the slate clean would simply mean everyone own up to the fact that we all have failed as flawed humans. So as I forgive and begin anew, so do those who need to forgive, begin a new.

No society that has ever lived has been pure. Come from a Buddhist, agnostic, pure Christian mode. Its the heart of all the religions that have some type of Lords Prayer where we are required to forgive if we are to be forgiven.

Some time some place we are going to have to stop running away and face our fears. If we dont start now...when do we start?

Trust me I know of what I speak. Had to forgive the drunk driver who not only hit and disabled my late husband who I was a caregiver to 24/7 for fourteen years, but who made our life harder. So I choose to forgive and look at the positive lessons I have learned which had I not been tested I would have missed out on.


~Beth~
 

Marilyn K. (9)
Sunday May 10, 2009, 4:29 pm
People who are so dissatisfied with the United States, Israel and the UN - Please feel free to choose another country where their ideas, morals, fairness and freedom better suits your ideals. Good-bye!
 

Cheryl Sunshine Benson (524)
Sunday May 10, 2009, 4:52 pm
just in case as profile is hidden 4 future reference of Mariyn K, frog, 0 friends

http://www.care2.com/c2c/people/profile.html?pid=868418280


That is quite the idea that Israelis leave Israel! There is speculation that they move them to the USA, by a CIA report, but the CIA isn't that bright in most cases.

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Beth, well put, people have difficulty letting go of the past, and for good reasons for many.

I have been ill and disabled for near 20 years, and brain body damaged repeated since 2003 with no proper diagnosis care or treatment and deneied supportive care and I am in Canada. I am still working on forgiveness. It was easier before when I wasn't stil subjected to the same every day, that could have and still could be taken care of. Now, look at Palestinians, that have endured this for 61 years and every day of their lives and live under occupation and in open air prisons.

It's not so easy when you are going through it still day in day out and it isn't behind you, or to some distance to begin to heal and forgive. This is always in their face, just as USA domination is for a strong hold in the middle east.
 

Beth H. (12)
Sunday May 10, 2009, 5:41 pm
Why is it when someone dares point out that the United States of America has never been and never will be 'perfect' or blameless, that someone comes along with the love it or leave it comment. Maybe those who love the country the most, want to use positive ideas from other countries to make our country better. If I am unhappy with something in my marriage or a friendship should I ignore it, leave, or look at the situation honestly and fix the negatives? No country is perfect. But as citizens no matter the country, we have a moral and ethical obligation to do what we can to right wrongs.


~Beth~
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday May 10, 2009, 7:07 pm
Beth, to follow your analogy:

if a wife always tell others about his husband how bad he is, and how he beats her up after supper, and how he spends money outside of family, and how low-life he is, etc. and the husband, who doesn't do all that stuff, finds it out the other day - what would his response be?

Josh
 

Beth H. (12)
Sunday May 10, 2009, 8:11 pm
Josh you asked RE: Beth, to follow your analogy: if a wife always tell others about her husband how bad he is, and how he beats her up after supper, and how he spends money outside of family, and how low-life he is, etc. and the husband, who doesn't do all that stuff, finds it out the other day - what would his response be?

Either leave her because she is lying, confront her in front of those she has lied to and ask her to prove what she has said or seek the help of an impartial therapist who could see things neither the wife or husband saw, the marriage could be saved. Being a widow after 38 yrs marriage we always faced the problems and fixed them. Very Buddhist.

~Beth~
 

Past Member (0)
Monday May 11, 2009, 1:39 pm
I hear Beth. Good to have people like you around.

Josh.
 

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