Wednesday January 16, 2008, 6:08 am
So the FDA is taking on the old Codex Alimentarius code. It has started! Everyone really has to fight this with everything they have. This is another way for Big Pharma to take over our bodies and pump us full of their drugs.

Wednesday January 16, 2008, 6:11 am
we've been fighting the CODEX in Canada with some succes, the US is loosing, Surprised so many spoke out in Canada, it is still an issue thou.

Wednesday January 16, 2008, 12:59 pm
While I certainly agree with you both, you also have to realize that in the US, vitamins are not regulated. Companies can say whatever they want with the asterick claiming that the FDA has not evaluated the information. Many, many products are excellent. Other products are not. Some are expensive and do nothin- waste of dollars. Some have been overused and some have caused death. Probably half the people reading this want safer vitamin and medcines, thus more regulation. The other half want more freedom to take alternative and homeopathic medicine; and/or to have less testing. Thus, less regulation. So which is it? I for one, hope that I can still take vitamins on into the future. I am also glad that some of those diet herbs (names I am not remembering off the top of my head) are off the market.

Wednesday January 16, 2008, 1:11 pm
The FDA has two standards. Aspartame, MSG, mercury in vaccines and dental amalgums, fluoride are all neurotoxins and should be banned,

Don't hold your breath. The FDA will continue to harass natural products while giving blanket approval to toxins.

BTW only 17 "note it" show and in reality53 people have noted this story. Explanation?

Wednesday January 16, 2008, 2:26 pm
explanation and submission to link 4 people to say something about glitches and the upgrade that isn't working, is here Judy thx
http://www.care2.com/news/member/956805373/604011

Wednesday January 16, 2008, 2:40 pm
Can you leave a NOTED comment udner articles you are noting, these so far are showing up correctly, the ones under the submissions are from other submissions, that may help abit of confusion untiil care2 get's this sorted out. thx, plwAM , PLEASE remember to leave comment on the group thread on the site. thx, typing going for now, later

Wednesday January 16, 2008, 4:46 pm
Noted, Will vitamina be a "class A drug"? Will we be locked up for taking these??

Wednesday January 16, 2008, 5:16 pm
actually amino acids were banned from Canada, and others, they are slowly getting back in and you could be charged, fined, especially the stores, althou rare. I when able ordered mine from the USA,lol, go figure. As for vitamins, a lot of the major ones do not break down properly in your system, another corporation sell off. You need highly absorbable ones, liquid one of the best. As for 'Class A' I think not, lol, , but something in place is surely possible and been an ongoing struggle with CODEX in Canada and USA, have to get off here. Care2 seems to have sorted out the note it's mess for now, don't hold your breath, you'll turn blue, lol

Thursday January 17, 2008, 6:52 am
Noted, A fine or jail sentence for taking Amino Acids? Unheard of, and ridiculous.

Thursday January 17, 2008, 7:26 am
We should sue the FDA in a class action (if able)suit everytime they pull a drug or chemical that has their approval prior off the market or everytime we have an allergic reaction/death ect. that was unknown as a risk- it is the FDA's responsibility to ensure safty and they cannot do it because their postion is biased and everyone knows it. here is a site for those who want to help fight this- www.healthfreedom.org these people haave made great progress in this fight-viva freedom of choice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thursday January 17, 2008, 9:18 am
Hi Stephen: quite a few aminio acid's were banned in Canada, or Ontario, I would think Canada, I in the 90's, stores selling them could be fined, and sold them (many stll do or did up to 5 years ago) out of their backrooms to regular customers. Many you still can't get, and herbal stores have to get permission from the government that they want to order them in and sell them, they don;t usually allow in large quantities or much of a selection and I know that was still going on in 2005 here. With that said, some you could order from the US (some) for up to a 3 months supply which I did from ww.immunesupport.com (they tell you one the site if they are allowed to deliver which ones to oh Canda) I am tryin gto do a search right now but wiki isn't being very helpful they are listing one by one, instead of what happened here, or an article on it, and will try to track one down next time at comptuer.

Faith, thx for post & link, there is a great one here in Canada, I joined, not a member anymore , http://www.friendsoffreedom.org/ , health (they were a big push behind fighting Codex and the government on health issues and products, lots of issues there, haven't been in awhile myself thx for reminider

Thursday January 17, 2008, 9:53 am
I love this paragraph!:
The gutless cowards of Congress, a majority of whom are on the Big Pharma payroll or will be on it once they leave Congress, have delegated their lawmaking powers granted by the U.S. Constitution to a bunch of Big Pharma-friendly unelected bureaucrats at the FDA, who are in turn using this power to undermine free commerce and help Big Pharma eliminate competition from the market. This is the behavior of a government in tyranny, inviting a revolution by the people".

From Cloned animals to vitamens, the FDA is making our lives as unhealthy as they possibly can. Malnutrition=disease=an expensive death=profits for big pharma,etc.
Thx for the post Sunshine!

Thursday January 17, 2008, 11:26 am
k, the links cant find 1 compresensive one, only one dating back to 1994, and that' snot all of them, I will just put in links as they are listed all over the web, some you have to read each one amino acid (or herbs) what happened and scroll down, or click on each link, time consuming and I can not do at this time or find a compresensive list, each one is leaving out others:

http://www.iahf.com/can-feb.html

Following is a PARTIAL list of products banned in Canada, and this are only just beginning - while most Paracelsus list readers and other consumers are blissfully unaware:

(1) l-arginine (amino acid) supports the cardiovascular system.
(2) l-carnitine (amino acid) combats heart disease
(3) Chaparral (herb) antioxidant and anti-inflammatory
(4) chromium picolinate (mineral compound) - improves glucose tolerance.
(5) Cramp bark (herb) - relieves menstrual cramps.
(6) EPA (fish oil extract) - improves circulation
(7) eyebright (herb) soothes irritated eyes.
(8) Germanium (trace element) - improves immunity.
(9) Glucomannan (vegetable fibre) - for treating obesity
(10) Goldenseal (herb) treats cold and flu symptoms.
(11) Gotu Kola (herb) promotes relaxation, improves memory.
(12) Hawthorne berries (herb) a heart tonic (also makes a tasty jam)
(13) Horsetail (herb) a source of silica.
(14) Melatonin (hormone) for insomnia and jet lag.
(15) Octasanol (extract of wheat) - counteracts fatigue.
(16) Pau d'arco (herb) has antifungal properties.
(17) DL- phenylalanine (amino acid) a natural painkiller.
(18) St.John's Wort (herb) a mild tranquilizer.
(19) l-tyrosine (amino acid) - a natural antidepressant.
(20) Yellow dock root (herb and salad green) an astringent

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/dhea.html
CANADA CUSTOMER NOTICE: Any supplement containing DHEA can NOT be shipped to Canada due to Canadian laws. Customers in other countries need to check with their local laws
(I was able to get some, my hebal store actually got 3 bottles and sold me one, I can't tolerate it, after all that and cost a small fortune, the list is quite long, another on my fridge I had sent up, was banned here. there will be others listed on this site,

if you google banned aminio acids Canada lots come up, find whole list, as well as herbals so far is a no go, and many others, some are getting in again as mentiooned, some you still have to order from the US some are still banned. that;s it for now Ladies and Gents

Thursday January 17, 2008, 4:23 pm
How ridiculous...what greed, what hubris, what fascism.

Thursday January 17, 2008, 6:46 pm
noted with utter disgust looking for campaign if anyone knows let me know

Thursday January 17, 2008, 11:35 pm
google CODEX
It's here

Friday January 18, 2008, 1:07 am
The Corporations: Exploit, manipulate, control and finally enslave the people. That's their credo and they seem very effective and successful. It's all about money. They want it all. If people have to suffer more, that is not something they are worried about. Even some of them suffer from the results. Still they are more interested in financial success.

Friday January 18, 2008, 5:28 am
I did Mary but don't see anything related or a list on herbs, aminio acids, etc or specifically canadian the USA you can still get most of them ifnot all,,I can't search much now just able to be up for couple minute right now::

http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp

canadian government site and can't find a list or history on a quick look and have to get off here for now:

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/intactivit/codex/index_e.html

Friday January 18, 2008, 5:30 am
the history is there, but can't find specific lists on aminio acids, herbs or history on them, they have one for foods and biotech, that's all can do right now

Friday January 18, 2008, 5:33 am
And as someone posted from a canadian Health site the other day, which was several years out of date, I don't like to use them alot (better to find the ones fighting it who have the lists and info the government isn't giving out) and they also have their propaganda on them

Friday January 18, 2008, 11:55 am
yeah, the next thing will be to forbid fruits, because they contain vitamines. big pharma has taken over, obviously!!

Friday January 18, 2008, 4:33 pm
Watch this video on Codex Alimentarius part 1 of 5
Vitamins will be banned December 2009, for real.: copy and paste, watch all 5 parts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmrF9KjlGsc

Friday January 18, 2008, 4:42 pm
Most of the food you eat is from genetically modified seeds. It is nearly impossible to get seeds that are not .
The seeds are modified so that they look good, but there are almost no nutrients in them. This is afact, even though most people are not aware of it.
Watch this video on - The Future of Food. Part ! of 7, watch all, completely factual. copy and paste:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNezTsrCY0Q

Friday January 18, 2008, 6:18 pm
This is what I know about vitamins, amino acids, and prescription drugs.
From the time when I was 20 to 50, (30 years), I was told by every doctor and psychiatrist I saw, every medical journal I read, that I was extremely bipolar2, and that it was a life long affliction, and, that there was no cure. They all told me, that my only recourse was to take as much pharma drugs as I needed, to survive.
And they gave me plenty. When I actually saw the light(for real), I was taking a minimum 19 pharma pills every day, including, Lithium, seroqel, nozinan, lamotrigene, diazeoam, and ritalin, every day for 30 years.
And More.
Now I take zero drugs, not even aspirin. Its been 9 months, and I have found out that I actually have a pretty good brain.
I also take branched chain amino acids, which are difficult to get in Canada, but you can buy them right off the shelf at GNC, General Nutrition Center.
So, as you could imagine, it really sucks to know, that through, Codex Alimentarius , vitamins will in fact be banned, on December 31, 2009. This is a FACT!
And as you could probably also imagine, someone in my position, has kept extremely up to date on all aspects, of all these issues.
Most people who knew me 1 year ago, and know me now, can't believe that I am just a normal guy, who takes no drugs(at all, 2 coffes a day), just vitamins(good vitamins, there is a Huge difference), I drink about 100 ounces of GOOD water(no flouride), stay away from processed foods, refined sugar, salt, and flour.
Thats it,
I haven't been sick or to a doctor for 9 months. I lost 60 pounds, and have been at this constant weight for 4 months.
I am very healthy, physically, and mentally, not just from my perspective. Thats what I know about vitamins, amino acids and drugs.
HERE IS THE IMPORTANT PART!
When I saw the light, my wife found a place called:
truehope.com + truehope.net. Same place.
They have an excellent program for returning to society, by, stop taking all drugs, Take their highly absorbent vitamins (High amounts of B6 and B12, Which basically, among other things, blocks the intake of exitotoxins, like aspartates and glutamates), and the rest of the required nutrients.

Friday January 18, 2008, 7:14 pm
Stop the war on U.S. Citizens by our own Government. Get out of our lives. I Agree that we are being genocided as others are in other countries in other ways. These are crimes against Humanity and the Planet. Noted with disgust, thanks Sunshine Ray.

Saturday January 19, 2008, 5:21 am
Sandra, I am not that happy being a Canadian at this time, althou preferable to being under the Bush Regime. I haven't been very impressed with Canadian PM's for, gee's I can't remember, they have all done damage, the conservatives the worst for the most part, including provincial

Saturday January 19, 2008, 6:14 am
I am a Canadian.
Unfortunately, Canada is as NWO as the USA is. Our present Prime Minister, Harper, and the last 2, Martin, and Mulroney, all work for them. Mulroney is on the board of directors.They have sold Canada, for their own personal gain(money), via the NAFTA, SPP, and North American Union. These are signed documents, that Canadians, and Americans should actually read.
I know that it would take time away from getting brainwashed, by the pretty well completely NWO controlled media, but I think that it woukd be worth it, to find out what they have already done(erase our freedom, and the middle class), and are planning on doing.
Canadians should look at what our goverment has been doing, like mind control in Quebec.
I am being vague about this issue, in hope that some people will actually look into it themselves.

Saturday January 19, 2008, 6:54 am
Wow, Wow, and Wow.....the only thing that I can say with my beliefs are anything that doesn't come from Mother Earth, I just don't mess with...I was in Scott's boat, but I only had 3 RX's for panic attacks, stress, I was only on them for 10 yrs..but now I take not even an aspirin, as Scott says, and my brain and my body feel better, I walk, Eat good and make my mind know that all is good inside.
I really want to acknowledge my good friend Sunshine's article and comments, my goodness, all of the information is so appreciated sweetie..it's all good stuff to know, thanking you kindly hon...this is most definately noted....Great Article!!!! Great Points Sun....you Rock!
Also many thanks to Scott for forwarding this to me and giving me a lot of knowledge from a Canadian's point of view also, seeings I am from the USA...You are great too my good friend as you have much information also that is helpful...I truly see what is going on here and there..clearly and its not a good thing...Thank you all for your comments..and hopefully we can start controlling our own destinies without the help of the media, or the government..we are all individuals..they can never control us...never...we are the Captains of our own ship.
Many bright love blessings to all...
FreeSpiritRunning...

Saturday January 19, 2008, 8:42 am
Hi Scott, I know u are Canadian and ur comment didn't come into my inbox, I checked ur profle, we are in the same province, and working on a detailed on on Notepad in stages as able and got side tracked to responding to one on another submission of mine that was quite lengthy. I have to rest for abit adn will be back to post it after I go over it again, it's quite detailed in response to yours as well as regarding myself.

Saturday January 19, 2008, 8:49 am
regarding the SPP/NAU, NAFA, etc, have large file on my group Canadians Proactive, but most Canadians just are not aware and some (believe it or not) think it is a good idea. really have to get off here for abit.

Saturday January 19, 2008, 8:50 am
regarding the SPP/NAU, NATFA, etc, have large file on my group Canadians Proactive, but most Canadians just are not aware and some (believe it or not) think it is a good idea. really have to get off here for abit. I will be back with my detailed post to Scott from my Notepad

Saturday January 19, 2008, 8:50 am
regarding the SPP/NAU, NATFA, etc, have large file on my group Canadians Proactive, but most Canadians just are not aware and some (believe it or not) think it is a good idea. really have to get off here for abit. I will be back with my detailed post to Scott from my Notepad, so much for staying of c2 today

Saturday January 19, 2008, 8:50 am
regarding the SPP/NAU, NATFA, etc, have large file on my group Canadians Proactive, but most Canadians just are not aware and some (believe it or not) think it is a good idea. really have to get off here for abit. I will be back with my detailed post to Scott from my Notepad, so much for staying of c2 today

Saturday January 19, 2008, 8:51 am
regarding the SPP/NAU, NATFA, etc, have large file on my group Canadians Proactive, but most Canadians just are not aware and some (believe it or not) think it is a good idea. really have to get off here for abit. I will be back with my detailed post to Scott from my Notepad, so much for staying off c2 today

Saturday January 19, 2008, 8:52 am
regarding the SPP/NAU, NATFA, etc, have large file on my group Canadians Proactive, but most Canadians just are not aware and some (believe it or not) think it is a good idea. really have to get off here for abit. I will be back with my detailed post to Scott from my Notepad, so much for staying off c2 today

Saturday January 19, 2008, 8:53 am
freakin c2 gltiches,lol, yikes back as able

Saturday January 19, 2008, 11:54 am
hi Scott I see you are a fellow Canadian, and thanks for posting, nice to 'see" you. Where did you get the chained amino acids from here in Canada (you are also in the same province), and as you (and I say) they are hard to get (I also have intolerance to some of them and I don\'t know which ones anymore, so $ down the drain if I can't). And I can't get out to get them Ihave to phone my herbal store(s) and see if they have them or from the USA, can get them delivered by someone & know if I can get to the door or pick up the phone, be able to speak, its quite the chore as I usually dont' know when very far in advance maybe a few hours most times, sometimes that day, rare for days in advance, (some get a few bottles at a time for regular customers) but not all as said, if ordering from the US, up to 3 bottles for some only,

As for psychiatric drugs after I got my M.E and F.M. several years later they were still saying the M.E. was psychiatric (oranganic illness 1998 Alberta supreme court, and Neurological Nov2004 so those that damaged me don;'t want to take any responsibility in helping repair some of the damage or lessen it or my quality of life for their so called integrity) my CNS was and still is through the roof which is common and dose sensitive (except for med's that calm it) which most didnt know althou published back to 1993 I found after getting on the net --- too late. I was plied with antidepressants, and sleeping drugs (major insomnia with M.E. and F.M.) and many still are for these illnesses with some success but I want them to be aware of the possible consequences, and I got progressively worse, very much so and went into 'the black hole of depression" which I had never experienced before. I had a long list of severe side effects and adverse reactions none reported by the doctors/hosptials or pharmacy and was also misdiagnosed a 2nd time from a reaction to Celexa, and because I couldn't tolerate regular doses of antidepressants, many have to micro dose or can' tolerate with M.E./FM. So I was badly brain and body damaged several times and left on several drugs that continued to do damage for another year (one doctor at least knowing and not saying anything), and when I came off them, all hell broke loose and I don't get out now, rare indeed, the picture up of me presently with 2 wheelchairs, one I can't push or put the bags on, is 2003 after first 3 brain/body damages, rapid cycling from the antidepressants (for those that don't know what that is, it is your mood going up and down, mine went to ultradian rapid cycling which means in a DAY, also from 'crashing' from my M.E./FM, my mood would go up/down as is normal for most when they get that actuely ill,and anger issues after the brain damage which is quite commen as well with brain surgery as well as brain damage, I kept repeating the same word over and over, it was funny but not, the "F' word, and convulsions, dystonia, dyskinesia, long list came out full force coming off them a year later....... anyway................

As for truehope (which is very expensive as well) , tried that prior but not for bipolar reasons. They said it would bring seizures down which I was having after coming off one sleeping medication I had been given since 1993 ( the seizures stopped later for the most part and the severity and frequency and not from truehope, it was just a matter of time, I still have some) ,- the convulstions from teh myocolinic dystonia continue as soon as my Brian wakes up) and they said other people were taking it for ME aka CFIDS, F.M. as well as the light depression people get with it. Truehope had no understanding of the damage done or the dystonia convulstions and quite a few medications. Also depression comes with ME/FM, ligter depression that I ever experienced on the antidepressants as well they were trying it with people with brain damage so that was a real plus or hope for me, someone here who is a freind of the owner/partner was trying to help as I have been refused medical care/treatment here, my damage isnot on my medical records, I have been left here . It was great for bringing down my CNS ( the amino acid in it d-Phenylalaine (sp?) but increased any sedative effects from med's you/I was on, also why they have NICKEL in it is beyond me and would get a bad feeling on/under my skin from it as well) , and the vitamins are more absorbable (still have some), however, I still needed to take some medication to stop the convulstions (and soften my muscles/ligaments) and they did not mix together at all, I was sleeping all the time and didn't stop the dystonia/dyskinesia convulstions which are extreme. And another with it, dopamine (stops the convulstions asap, but it is the wrong one they gave me, of course and I am cut off from any doctors now after they realized how much damage was done and holding on) , with the truehope I got suicidal or was thinking about it too much so I called my mother to come down right away and stay with me until it the amanitine (dopamine) wore off and I stopped taking it the truehope, I gave it a good try for several months, but as I said I was sleeping most of the time on it, and at a lower dose to start than 'normals' because of my intolerances. when I sleep the dystonia convulstions stop and my damaged muscles/ligaments return to being soft not shortened stiff and hard - also from the medications they gave me, including the celexa and others. Also they didn't know their drugs on the site and didn't like being told, ex, they had 'imovane" listed as an antidepressant as well as others repeatedly wrong, and got upset when I asked if their capsules where vegitarian, they didn't know, turned out they weren't but u can get just the powder. I have recommended it to others on care2 and another lady said for her son, she tried and it wasn't enough and was going another route, so it's not the be all, end all for everyone, some people who are not ill in any way take it. I have tried COMPLETE as well, liquid gold, still have some bottles and I can't take that either because it worsens my CNS not calm it down, shame, the energy on that stuff and clarity was great and in 1 week noticed a difference and great for vegitarians.

As for Vitamins companies being taken over I have to read the sites and can't right now & have other priorities regarding help for my situation (I have had to type this in stages on Notepad) but am not surprised. I don't (hope) think they will get away with that in Canada on the other hand they did with many herbals and amino acids while they were still available in the US, so how's that for an oxymoron. Harper is starting to pull back abit from his wannabe buddy bushco, and I hope Harper is out asap. I found u on youtube and will check out a few of your videos made as able Scott.
If you have any suggestions pls post here or message me. thx for sharing. and Hello Michael, Savro (Hare Krsna) to those tracking.

Saturday January 19, 2008, 11:58 am
I just figured it out, that's why my herbal store only had 3 bottles of the DHEA, they ordered it in personally not throu the company from the US and probably charged me a heck of alot more than if I ordered from the US myself, geesh

Saturday January 19, 2008, 12:24 pm
Hi Sunshine, heres the link where I get my branched chain amino acids, they're synthetic, but it works for me. I buy them at the store, but you can order them online.

http://www.gnc.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2173639&cp=2108321

I know you are in far worse shape than I was, but All my problems have dissappeard, after about 6 months. I drink a lot of good water, 100 ounces a day.
the aspartates and glutamates really mess you up, and refined sugar, salt, and flour
are Really bad for you also. also Proccessed foods , No good.
If I had listened to my doctor, I woud still be a zombie. Its not easy, as it seems like you are getting worse, for quite a while, till you get the drugs out of your system.
If I can do anything for you let me know.
Ps, the mind is all powerfull, when it comes to healing. I improved drastically, after I started meditating, and got my brain functioning again. It only requires you to put headphones on for 1 hour a day. nothing more. I can get the cd or file to you if you like. I am very serious about the meditating part.
Think ONLY positive thoughts about your condition, when you start thinking about negative things about you condition, think positive, or think about something else that makes you Happy!

Scott Love is the answer.
that is the frequency you need to feel better.

Saturday January 19, 2008, 1:06 pm
holosync?

Saturday January 19, 2008, 1:21 pm
I used to meditate and do rounds as Sarvo knows, I stopped when the convulstions came out full force (and other reasons as Sarvo knows, some anyway), I not able to reply to all of ur post regarding foods, most I dont since M.E./FM/vegitarion, although the convulstios are a nightmare, and my situation and want them to STOP. And I am going throu stages of anger regarding the doctors and goverment involved as well adn being left like this, which is normal, like grief. I also type often the way I speak at the time which fluctuates and which is a real oddity and from the brain damage. I will check out the link u left in abit, next time up, thank you.

Sunday January 20, 2008, 12:35 am
I sspent abit of time there last night, just up for abit, and they look like they have some good products. With that said thou, I don't take synthetic vitamins and feel that would follow throu to synthetic amnio acids, they aren't natural and would need more info on them before I got any and doesn't look like the company supplies much. I checked out another of your submissions on nanotech, etc, good site, should have made front page, an article on it recently and GMO's etc. did, the site you subitted is more detailed. later. and thx