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Norway's Police Apologize for Deporting Jews

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I'm in an end-of-year news roundup mood. So here's my question; did this story (datelined Nov. 26) make it to your media source? If not's what Reuters says:

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Giana P (398)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 4:47 am
Alexandra, don't think I read it anywhere, but it's food for thought. That's the way the world is. Most genocides are forgotten by the world except for by those who had to live through it.

Gillian M (218)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 4:50 am
Not exactly shouted from the roof tops nor is the fact that Norway is almost Judenfrai, an appalling state of affairs. There is no outrage from the media, Norway or, especially, the anti-Semites who whitter on about their concern for human rights. Human rights does not include Jews or Israel (remembering that not all Israelis are Jewish) unless they are "Palestinians"!

This double/triple standard as well as hypocricy is what allows the anti-Semitism and the silence and refusal to accept this by the anti-Semites is loud.

Gillian M (218)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 4:52 am
Giana, true especially by the UN and those that claim that they believe in human rights.

We will not see the like of Carrie, Carole or Abdesalam on this news item condemning the lateness of this unapologetic apology nor will we see condemnation of the treatment of Jews there today.

Alexa R (319)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 4:59 am
You're not the only one to have missed it - if it wasn't for Dry Bones, I would have missed it too, as it wasn't mentioned in any mainstream news outlets.

Thanks for sharing Giana .. I too feel that most genocides are forgotten, except for those who had to live through it, sadly ..

I've had the privilege of listening first-hand to holocaust survivors sharing their stories, and walking through the museum in Berlin, seeing the actual last carefully wrapped and parceled personal possessions, like dolls, that were supposedly being sent off to distant family for save keeping until they were to return ... my heart was in tears ...

We’ll never forget ..


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Barbara K (60)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 5:02 am
For my Jewish friends, I am glad that this apology finally came, though it is so late in coming. Thanks for the post, my friend.

Yumana Yunes (197)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 5:04 am
You'll see me though, noticing both articles on both sides, noting it, being aware and definitely remembering the ugly ugly war history that has shaped this world until today. All we can do is never forget it in order to better shape our present and future! Thanks Gillian, Giana, and Alexandra!

Alexa R (319)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 5:22 am
Thank you Barbara and Vincenzo.

Indeed: "All we can do is never forget it in order to better shape our present and future! "

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Naoko i (264)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 6:04 am
At least (at last) Norway applogized...Japan hasn't applogized to Korea, the Phillipines and other Asian neighbours for the atrocities yet, nor the US to Japan for its atomic bombings.

pam w (139)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 6:54 am
Considering what's happening in Europe these days...I think this is significant.

Yes, it's late. BUT THEY DID IT!


Ben O (171)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 6:54 am
I had never heard of this until now...

Alexa R (319)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 6:58 am
Thanks for sharing Naoko. You're right Japan has not apologised to many Asian countries, neither North Korea to South Korea, etc.

However (please correct me if I'm wrong) USA has apologised to Vietnam.

As Vincenzo and Gillian said, I too think an apology is only as useful to the degree it makes the future better. (no point to apologise in secret only to commit genocide again..)

divergent r (309)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 7:05 am
What does an apology accomplish?
Custer's granddaughter apologized to the sioux nation, doesn't bring back anyone or change the past.
An apology is just words,reparations like Germany made are hardly more .To the victims and survivors of the holocaust it didn't change their nightmares and physical torture marks.. It can always happen again regardless of an apology
"no one expected the spanish inquisition" Mel Brooks

pam w (139)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 7:31 am
I disagree, Tasunka!

It demonstrates recognition and regret for acts which may or may not have been within the control of the one doing the apologizing.

It might be the ONLY thing a person or a nation can do....but, at least it's SOMETHING!

Would you prefer we all just ignore acts like these?


Past Member (0)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 8:53 am
Alexa, Hadn't heard of this. Thanks for sending the message out.
Never forget! Never again!

P. L. Neola (21)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 10:14 am
In a recently read book, How Do You Kill 11 Million People?, written by Andy Andrews, I learned that the Nazis lied to the Jewish population. They told them that the journey on the railcars would be very uncomfortable. However, after they reached their destination, their lives would be much better, especially better than their lives in the ghettos. So, the Jewish population allowed themselves to be crammed into the railcars body-to-body while standing up. Now, hear this!!! This is a real terrible tragedy!!!

The railcars ran mostly on Sundays during the Lutheran and other Church Services. The people in the railcars would be screaming and yelling in pain and in extreme discomfort. And, the Germans would just simply sing hymns louder and LOUDER in order to drown out the screams. Not one German prayed for them! (I also learned that the Nazis imprisoned many Catholic priests in the concentration camps throughout Europe. This is a fact that most people are not aware of nowadays!)

Despite everyone’s respect for President Obama, he sincerely miss-quoted (misquoted) the statements of our Founding Fathers of the United States pertaining to Islam and Islamization. Our Founding Fathers expressed how Islam was a serious threat to Christian principles and Christian society. Thomas Jefferson and John Adams might have possessed a Qur’an or Koran; however, they only studied the Koran so that they understood the Islamic threat. At present, I am reading another book, Marked for Death: Islam’s War Against the West and Me, written by Geert Wilders.

Islam is not something to embrace. Islam forces submission on Non-Muslims and it is a very discrimination ideology. So much so that it is totally incompatible to Western Society just like it was with early Western Civilization! Of course, it has always discriminated against all Jews, and it always will until the last Jew gives up its Ghost or breathes it last breath. What the Jewish populations have been subjected to for centuries will also be the fate of Western Societies.

Out of a Global population of 7 billion people, the people of Islam are something like 1.3 billion and GROWING!

I wonder how many Care2 friends I will lose this time, because every time I use my voice I get into trouble!

MmAway M (505)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 10:53 am
Thanks Alex...

Ruth C (87)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 11:16 am
Humans are always the ones that make problems in the world!

Maggie Kearns (7)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 12:31 pm
Thanks Alexandra! At least Norway apologized. The world didn't notice,because they don't want to notice. Anti-semitism seems to be the only acceptable prejudice in the world. How sad....

Carol D (346)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 1:49 pm
An apology no matter how big or small... it is if it is done in all sincerity it can move Mt's or a lot of hatred or anger!! For sure when it is a serious apology it can affect the heart and mindset of the offended!

Paulo R (13)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 3:07 pm
“At least Norway apologized...nor the US to Japan for its atomic bombings.”

Oh, please! Remember Sunday, December 07, 1941, when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor in Hawaii? Who provoked who into a prolonged war? The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki helped end the war. An invasion by the Americans into mainland Japan would have resulted in much higher casualties (on both sides) than what the atomic bombings caused.

Alexa R (319)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 3:27 pm
Paulo, turning war or the death of innocent civilians into a numbers game is beyond the pale. Let alone off topic.

Alexa R (319)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 3:34 pm
Naoko, please pay no attention to Paulo. We mourn with you the loss of every single innocent Japanese civilian during the atomic bombings by USA, just like we mourn our own loss during the holocaust.

Never forget. Never again.


Patricia Gal (103)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 4:00 pm
noted, the World is cruel, but that doesn't mean stop from doing what's right. God bless your efforts.

Stan B (123)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 6:16 pm
I'm not sure how sincere this apology really is. 70 years is a long time to decide that an apology is due.
Thanks Alex.

Paulo R (13)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 6:42 pm
“I'm not sure how sincere this apology really is. 70 years is a long time to decide that an apology is due.”
…I second that Stan. I think the ‘statute of limitations’ on this apology has run out.


Chad A (190)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 6:43 pm
I am happy that someone in Norway remembered an that a horrific wrong is being remembered and regretted, no matter how belatedly. Remembering too late and apologizing is much better than forgetting. We must never forget crimes against humanity.

Iain A (66)
Friday December 14, 2012, 1:41 am
Noted, thanks Alexandra. Patricia is right, it's a cruel world we live in!

Rajee Seetharam (138)
Friday December 14, 2012, 3:54 am
Thanks Alexandra....this is something I've never heard of or read anywhere.
I'm thinking of my Jew friends. Although an apology is not going to really straighten the past, there is magic in it and one can send out a sigh of some sort of relief.
Noted with thanks.

Carol K (45)
Friday December 14, 2012, 6:13 am
That was kept quiet, thanks, terrible!

Suzanne L (99)
Friday December 14, 2012, 7:56 am
I did not see this news so thanks for posting Alexandra. I think apologies are important. While they may not be able to undue the past, they are a recognition that wrongfulness was committed and that people are taking responsibility for that and admitting that injustice was done.

Missy O (8)
Friday December 14, 2012, 8:09 am
Norwegian Police force that helped the Nazi during WW2 to deport Nigerien Jews to consternation camps, on that note the Police was Nazi controlled. Norway as a county has always condemned the treatment of the Jews. After the war ended the members of the police were found guilty for torture, abuse, executions and murders. The jews have gotten many apologized in Norway during the years, they have gotten financial compensations, they have own museums to learn about the tradigy that happened.. BUt with that said.. the jews were Not they only once mistried by nazis during ww2 here in Norway, many Norwigens were kidnapped and sendt to places deep in germany for the soul purpose of breeding babys that looked like hitles Ideal human tall blond and blue eyed... these kids were taken from their birth mother/father and placed at weatly SS people in higeranked places.. wondering were these kids are today.. Everyone suffered during WW2 some more then other.. should we not all get an apology? Sweden refused to take norwigens that fled, they even refused to take the King in.. England were wonderful and took many Norwegian refuges.

There are many that should say they are sorry But Norway today does not represent the Norway that sendt those jews to their fate, just as americans today are not responsible for the Genocide their forefathers did to Indians. Or as I dont go around hateing Germans for leaving my contry in ruins, or sweden for not helping us.. Hate is wasted.. We must stand together jews, kristans, muslims, as in core we are all humans and the majory of us wanne live in peace.

Missy O (8)
Friday December 14, 2012, 8:10 am
Norwigen jews no Nigerian.. autocorrect..

Alexa R (319)
Friday December 14, 2012, 9:09 am
Missy O, did Norway apologise to the others that you're mentioning who were mistreated also - or has that been kept quiet(out of the mainstream media) too? Do you know?

BTW, I agree with your sentiment that most of us simply wish to live in peace with all humans ...

Missy O (8)
Friday December 14, 2012, 10:33 am
Why should anyone apologize? Unless its the person that did it? Why would I apologize if a person up my street did something wrong.. ? its easy to apologize when you haven't done anything wrong... and it means nothing if your not the person that did it.. Just like when my grandmother got robbed by a teenager and his parents apologized, the son did not even care that he hurt my grandmother.. just as I think why does it matter that the prime minister, the police apologize? They have not done anything wrong.. (well in the case on hand) if a Nazi that committed the crime had said sorry I would have meant something...

so in a bit of ironic tone I want to apologize to all that was hurt by my viking ancestors, to the once that was kidnapped by them and sold as slaves..

Becasue if you look at history we all have a bloody past.. so lets just start apologize, I am expecin one from denmark because they have mistreated us, so has Sweden, Germany, oh lets not forget my great great great great grandmother she was a gypsy.. and they have and still is mistreated so... people make a line .. I hope you understand I am being a bit ironic..


valda p (13)
Friday December 14, 2012, 3:23 pm
Norway wasn't the only country that turned it's back against the Jews and owes an apology-when some tradgedy happens we say we must never let this happen again -it always does -it is happening today -same situation -Islam -hates -Jews and has sworn to eradicate them -they preach this hatred in their mosques and what is the world doing about it?this religion of peace?the same as before -nothing -until it is too late.

Tom Edgar (56)
Friday December 14, 2012, 3:26 pm
I think so many are being a little obtuse. The apologies made are usually in the name of the country. This is as much to do with cleansing the mind, collective consciences and responsibility from any connection with the perpetrators and recognising a fact that has, and still by some is, still denied.

That being said the same vociferous Pro Israel lobbyists conveniently ignore that the State of Israel pursues the same policies under which they they themselves suffered when dealing with Palestinians many of whom have had their properties confiscated (stolen) by Israel. The blight on humanity is that ANY country should be officially designated a Religious State be it Jewish, Islam, or Christian.Oh Yes there are some. England for one., admittedly it doesn't seem to intrude too much there, the very sizable atheist population would soon out the Monarchy if it intruded onto politics, even though legally it can.

Paulo R (13)
Friday December 14, 2012, 4:03 pm
What a great post. Get ready to be “hammered” by the Pro-Israeli PC Brigade.

From one of my favorite authors, Edward Said:
"The question to be asked is how long can the history of anti-semitism and the Holocaust be used as a fence to exempt Israel from arguments and sanctions against it for its behavior towards the Palestinians, arguments and sanctions that were used against other repressive governments, such as South Africa? How long are we going to deny that the cries of the people of Gaza... are directly connected to the policies of the Israeli government and not to the cries of the victims of Nazism?"…“You cannot continue to victimize someone else just because you yourself were a victim once—there has to be a limit”

Nancy Black (308)
Friday December 14, 2012, 4:19 pm
Noted, tweeted, tweeted, shared. Reminds me of the Pope apologizing to the Jews in the 60's. Useless, mindless, insincere, and I am Catholic.

patrica and edw jones (190)
Friday December 14, 2012, 9:18 pm
Paulo - why use someone else's comments - why not investigate Israel's history for yourself? If you did you would not trot out such inane and untrue crap. Palestinians are where they are because they have radical and ineffectual leaders who do not want the best for their people but instead, use them to further the cause of hatred and repression of Israel. Wherever the Palestinians have settled - there has been much unrest. They do not assimilate easily - as Syria, Jordan and Egypt found out, to their cost. If Hamas and the P.A TRULY want peace - they just have to say so. But, truth be told, they are mindless madmen and peace with Israel is the last thing they want.

Helen Porter (39)
Friday December 14, 2012, 9:18 pm
That's something like the Pope's apology a few years ago for all the evil the church has done.

I believe in making amends. It's about time they both support Israel.

Apologies are only a feeble attempt to soothe the conscious of one self alone.


Paulo R (13)
Friday December 14, 2012, 11:02 pm
“…why use someone else's comments - why not investigate Israel's history for yourself?” I used a quote because the author expresses what I believe in. I have investigated both Israeli (Jewish) and Palestinian (Arab) history. Hamas and the Palestinians have requested peace with Israel in the past, review your history. You seem to be of the opinion, like many here on Care2, that all Arabs and Muslims are bad and should be ‘ethnically cleansed’ of the planet. Haven’t we seen this option play itself out in history before?

Alexa R (319)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 10:09 am
Paulo, no one on this thread (apart from you it would seem) is supportive of genocide. Whatever the group of people targeted.

And no one on this thread (apart from you it would seem) thinks all muslims or all arabs are bad.

If you read history, you'll struggle to find more than a handful of times that muslims were the target group of genocide -other than at the hands of other muslims.

Whereas, if you read history, the number of groups targeted by muslims for genocide is abundant.

And not ancient history. It is happening today. Buddhists (peaceful pacifist and too non-fighting for their own good) are currently systematically ethnically cleansed by muslims.

Israel has no desire other than peace with Palestinians, Arabs and all people. Israel has a vested interest in peace. Your false accusations against Israel will not make this world a better place, nor save lives.


Paulo R (13)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 9:09 pm
“Paulo, no one on this thread (apart from you it would seem) is supportive of genocide…and no one on this thread (apart from you it would seem) thinks all Muslims or all Arabs are bad.”

I’m not sure where you are getting this “apart from you” logic. I don’t think you understood what I wrote or implied. I’m on the Arab/Palestinian side of the argument! This thread has had comments erased, so much for free speech. Specifically negative and rude comments targeting Muslims. Anyway, happy Hanukkah – day seven….I’ll be celebrating Christmas on the 25th.

Alexa R (319)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 10:06 am
Paulo, the Arabs and Palestinians are not all on the same side! It is ignorant to the extreme (imho) for you to suggest they are all on the same side... and that you're thus on their side.

A lot of Palestinians resent their 'Arab brothers' using them for their own agendas. Israel is not without the support of large numbers of our Palestinians (for some weird reason called Israeli Arabs by anti-Semites).

Banding a whole group of people together as 'good' or 'bad' is what brings about genocide (imho).

Israel can even count Christians and Catholics among our supporters (apart from our Palestinians supporters and other supporters). Not ALL Christians or ALL Catholics are supportive of the Hamas course of violence, destruction and genocide against Israel.

Hope my logic is more clear to you now.

Thanks for the Chanuka wishes, we had a time of miracles. I wish you and yours a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.


Süheyla C (234)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 5:28 pm
Thaks Alexndra

. (0)
Monday December 17, 2012, 10:37 am
Thanks for the post Alex and to all who sent fwds. No, no report of it here, but am happy an apology was offered up. I wish there could be resolution between the two sides for all of their sakes.

Jane H (139)
Wednesday December 19, 2012, 11:07 am
Thanks for the post--it is a reminder that everything we do is really political, and we need to look at what's going on and be aware of our own stances.

alicia m (97)
Monday April 1, 2013, 3:49 am
no idea... noted and posted in Slavery Today Group, gracias

Rose B (141)
Monday April 1, 2013, 9:40 pm

Past Member (0)
Tuesday April 2, 2013, 5:23 pm
Bloody wrong
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