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In the Name of Humanity What Is Israel Doing?!!


World  (tags: Gaza Massacre, Talmudic Tyrants, Zionist Gangster Ideology )

Dave
- 2988 days ago - youtube.com
THIS HAS GOT TO STOP! Why doesn't the US government seek sanctions on Israel for ethnically cleansing the Palestinian people and for managing an apartheid regime?



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Jaclin S (230)
Tuesday May 11, 2010, 11:03 am
Something must be done to stop this horrendous "culling" the Israelis are prepertrating on the Palestinians - it is totally unacceptable and inhumane - I really cannot for the life of me understand why??? Where is their compassion??? Is Greed the answer for all of these murderous actions??? Peace & Harmony TY Dave C
 

Mike K (1)
Tuesday May 11, 2010, 12:28 pm
But on the flipside, why do we need to get involved in another conflict thousands of miles away?
 

Dave C (867)
Tuesday May 11, 2010, 3:48 pm
You may well ask.
 

Matloob ul Hasan (81)
Tuesday May 11, 2010, 7:37 pm
Noted, thanks.
 

Yvonne Mendes Siblini (218)
Tuesday May 11, 2010, 11:49 pm
This is a good compilation of youtube presentation.
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Wednesday May 12, 2010, 2:34 am
MIKE (1) wonders why USA " need to get involved in another conflict thousands of miles away?"
The truth is Israel can't continue doing this since 1948 against Palestinians should USA stop its political ,economic and military support for Israel. This support is the main reason of the UGLY image of USA not only in the Arab and Islamic world but also around the world including Europe . It is also the main execuse of extremist and terrorist. At least 90% of the existing terrorist attacks against USA interest can be stopped if America could say NO to Israel. Is America willing and able to do so? With the poweful of many Jewish lobbies in USA specially IAPAC , I doubt it can say this.
 

David Gould (155)
Wednesday May 12, 2010, 6:00 pm
"I looked away as the trains left
What was that to do with me?
I did not stand with dear Gaza
It was nothing to do with me."

When does it become something to do with you?

We have looked the other way for too long.

Now we are looking and seeing what is happening.

But if we say anything we are 'anti-semitic'.

We can stand up for Human Rights
or
we can look away.
the choice is ours.
Lucky us.
The Palestinian has no such choice.
if he looks away
his family is murdered.
if he looks away
poof...his house is gone
his land is gone
and a Jewish settler lives there now.

I am not anti-semitic.
It is just that i don't like bullies.
 

Pete C (5)
Wednesday May 12, 2010, 11:25 pm
ethnic cleansing? yeah right. more like mass suicide. they dont like jews plain and simple.they are taught to hate jews in preschool.

israel has bent over backwards for the palestinians but they always go back on their word.
 

Dave C (867)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 12:09 am
It's customary in the civilized world to start a sentence with a capital letter - as is the word Jew.
Far from being civilized it's quite clear that after 62 years, 'Israel' has barely progressed passed the Neanderthal stage of development and this shameful savage entity is an embarrassment to the entire World.
 

linda b (186)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 2:47 am
Any ethnic cleansing must never be allowed there has been too much of it in this world.TY Dave.
 

Terry B (649)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 4:39 am
It is evident that Dave has little knowledge of what is "customary in the civilized world" regarding English grammar if he thinks that "progressed passed" is acceptable. In the attempted phrase, "past" would be the correct past participle.

BTW, "world" should NOT be capitalized, nor the name of a country be enclosed in quotation marks, and, finally, the capitalization rules to which he alludes are often ignored in electronic transmissions so Dave's criticism of Pete is invalid and serves only as an ill-conceived introduction to another of his boring antisemitic tirades.
 

David Gould (155)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 6:06 am

Terry, I hate to be a pendant here but the 'past' you are referring to is actually an active verb and not a participle; which if you care to look it up in the Oxford Dictionary of English Usage would refer to a verbal adjective. Hence the the verb 'past' has a subject 'Israel' and an object, 'the Neanderthral stage', which when put together with an active verb is what we refer to as a sentence. Perhaps as homework you could give me five examples of the word 'past' used as a participle on my desk by 5 pm please. If you cannot quite manage five I will accept four but I might reserve the right to mark your entry down in marks. I take it that you accept that the word 'progressed' here is a subjunctive partiiciple since it is clear from the sentence that in fact no progress has been detected.
 

Terry B (649)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 10:13 am
David G., you are WRONG. If you are going to be a pedant, you might have argued correctly that "past' in the sense used is actually a past participle used as (adverbial) preposition. (OED, Merriam-Webster Unabridged, Collins Unabridged, University of Chicago Manual of Style, Strunk & White, C.T. Onions), not an adjective since there is no noun that it modifies, but I considered that nicety a bit beyond necessity.

The verb of which "Israel" is the subject is "has progressed" and not "passed/past", which as an adverb modifies the position to which Israel has or has not progressed in Dave's view. The object of the adverbial preposition "passed/past" is "stage" to which Israel has or has not advanced, not "Israel", which is the subject of the sentence. Hence, "passed" is incorrect.

And you are assuming facts not in evidence where you "take it that [I] accept" your last statement. I do not. I doubt that there is anything subjunctive about Dave's statement, which he presents as fact, and not contingent or prosbable, although it may be argued (and I am not inclined to second-guess him and get into that) that he viewed the matter emotionally. As far as I can see it is a straight-up declarative statement, nothing subjunctive about it.

Go stand io the corner for ten minutes and them write "C.T. Onions" on the slate twenty times.
 

TERRANCE N (65)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 11:09 am
Now I understand, but don't condone, why Palestinians would cheer when 911 occurred. How on earth our Politicians can vote time and time again for aid to Israel to committ such atrocities against a people astounds me. Then when Obama only ask that Israel stop building settlements to pursue peace talks he is viciously attacked by former Mayor Ed Koch, Eli Weisel, and the ADL.

The next President I will vote for have to agree to cut off aid to Israel if Israel's actions and behavior continue. Congressman Ron Paul and Congressman Dennis Kucinich quickly come to mind. Israel has become a huge liability to us as a country.

 

Terry B (649)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 12:04 pm
As there seems to be no spell-check on Care2, I trust that the typo in my last sentence will not be the subject of a tirade since it is obviosly a typo and not a grammatical inadequacy.

Although typos can be dangerous, as when Condo Sleeza was talking to Dopey W about Iran, and he asked if she did not really mean Iraq, since that was where he sent the troops and bombs. Mandame Secrstary's reply was, "No, Mr. President. That was a typo."
 

Liliana D (125)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 12:48 pm
Noted. I am sceptical about any gouvernment on this world would take any action to stop Israel.
And Pete wouldn't you hate that suddenly you are forced to receive in your house another family who will state that from this moment this is their house and you have to live following their rules?
Israel is an artificial state and history teaches us that this cannot last in peace.
 

audrey s (0)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 1:03 pm
Where were all you people for the last 60 years when Israel was being attacked for no other reason that she was given an arid piece of desert where her people could live in peace? look what she carved out of the desert. What had the Palestinians ever done to improve their lives? Nothing because the Arabs would have nothing to do with them,The israelis asked them to stay and help build the new country but the Arabs said the Isrealis will kill them so most Palestinians left only to be shunned by the Arabs. Read the real history of Israel. You will find it in the library not in the blogs on line put there by enemies of israel.
 

NIKY NINA (49)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 1:48 pm
when is this bloody evolution going to come?...i'm sick of this stuff...it's been already thousands of years...isn't it enough?...or are we still cavemen?...it's our choice...please get rid of these stereotypes...let us be free...let us be human...
 

Ian N (13)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 2:27 pm
GOD BLESS ISRAEL!
 

Ian N (13)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 2:44 pm
FACT: The Arabs invaded the fledgling State of Israel in 1948, pledging to "Push all the Jews into the sea!"

FACT: The Palestinians could havd had their state if they accepted the U.N. Partition Plan in 1948.

FACT: Islamic fascists (like the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem) called for "Death to the Jews" during the Second World War.

FACT: Jerusalem is and has ALWAYS been the capital of Israel - from the time of King Solomon.

FACT: The original Palestinian Mandate included ALL of what is now Jordan, the West Bank, Gaza, and Israel. Most Jordanians are Palestinians. In reality, Jordan IS already a Palestinian state. Do they really need ANOTHER ONE? Kick out the Hashemite Royals like the Iranians did with the Shah and rename Jordan to Palestine!

 

Dave C (867)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 2:58 pm
FACT: I'm Father Christmas.
 

Marianna M. (6)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 3:01 pm
sad
 

Dave C (867)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 3:28 pm
When it comes to 'Israel' - 'sad' just about sums it up. Another 2000 years of wondering and then, just maybe. . . but at the moment, no way - it's all been a big mistake. These people are just not ready to settle amongst civilized societies and create their own 'Homeland' - no matter whether it be on stolen Palestinian land or anywhere else. It's been a total disaster - like giving a box of matches to a child - 'Israel' will be the death of us all.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 4:16 pm
One word, zionazi. This is why the US is joined with Israel at the hip and cannot chastize Israel too much.
 

Antonio Calabria PhD (17)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 4:30 pm
MIKE 1: WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SUPPORTING ISRAEL AGAINST PALESTNIANS AND OTHER ARABS FOR THE LOMGEST TIME, NO MATTER HOW MUCH ISRAEL HAS DONE AGAINST THOSE REFUGEES AND DISPOSSED PEOPLE. FACT IS, THE US COUILDN'T GIVE A DAMN AND HAS DONE NOTHING TO STOP ISRAEL, STARTING WITH THE $ 3-BILLION PLUS IN AID TO ISRAEL AND ITS MILITARY EVERY YEAR. AND THAT'S DESPITE ISRAEL BEING A CLOSE ALLY OF SOUTH AFRICA BEFORE THE END OF APARTHEID AND ACTIVELY CONTROLLING PRO-ISRAEL SPIES AMONG US CITIZENS WORKING IN VERY SENSITIVE SECRET POSITIONS, LIKE POLLARD AND ALL THE OTHERS SINCE POLLARD.

AND TERRY, YOU'RE THE REAL PEDANT, FOCUSING ON GRAMMAR [I WOULD USUALLY AGREE, IT'S A GOOD CAUSE, AND NECESSARY] WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN ASSAULTED, ROBBED OF THEIR HOMES, AND USED AS TARGET PRACTICE FOR THE "CIVILIZED" ISRAELI TROOPS.. I SEE VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT ISRAEL HAS BEEN DOING TO THE PALESTNIANS AND THE NAZIS DID TO THE JEWS IN THE '30s AND '40s. FOR SHAME, AND THE US IS THE ACCOMPLICE.
 

Marilyn K (50)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 5:53 pm
The Palestinians are asked one concession - to acknowledge that Israel has the right to exist. The Palestiians are equal to people that are drowning but refuse to get into the life boat when asked, so they choose to drown - so let them.
 

Ricardo C (66)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 6:35 pm
I wonder if Israel is the way it is because all these Arab nations want its demise! Many against one! I am totally against war, but at the same time I am totally in favor of a nation defending itself against its enemies. Let us suppose that Israel accepted Palestine as a nation, where Israelis and Palestinians could live in peace, I am sure that religious radicals will continue to make war against Israel. This is not an easy fix. Religion is supposed to bring humans together instead of separating them. What would happen to israel if the U.S. stopped defending them?
 

Helen Snyder (13)
Thursday May 13, 2010, 6:56 pm
Noted. If Isreal just 'defended' that would be one thing .. but they also aggressively attack. I feel we should adopt a "hands off" attitude and let them settle their differences without the aid of our money and support. The amount we send Isreal each year would go a long way toward solving a lot of our domestic problems.
 

Sue D (0)
Friday May 14, 2010, 12:05 am
In the Name of Humanity What Is Israel Doing? They are attempting to save the lives of their people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The arab countries have tried repeatedly since 1948 to annihilate the Jewish people. They have never been the ones attacking offensively, only defending. They have only said let us live in peace. If the arabs would let them live in peace there would be no fighting.
 

Sue D (0)
Friday May 14, 2010, 12:07 am
G_D Bless Israel!!!!!!!!
 

Thomas C (116)
Friday May 14, 2010, 1:35 am
Well said Father Christmas. If there were no exremists entrenched on either side there would have been peace long ago. As per usual religion and the extremist misuse and abuse of it is at the root of this problem! The victims as usual are those innocents of both sides caught in the crossfire!
 

Scott Freewheeler (45)
Friday May 14, 2010, 2:53 am
I cannot profess to know all the facts regarding this topic as I would have to rely on other people for my information and therefore there is a possibility that the truth may have been lost along the way. What I feel in my heart is perfectly put into words by Mahatma Gandhi.

“I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent”.
 

Bob E (113)
Friday May 14, 2010, 4:32 am
This is NOT a two-sided… If Israel was defending itself… it would NOT be taking away land as we speak…

Mike (previous)… We are already involved and you should get more knowledgeable… We are already spending 3+ billion every year for Israel to take away more land and cause more suffering… MIke… you are involved… But… we should not be giving aid to Israel and allow them to continue their barbarous ways… MIke… get informed as to what is going on… You don’t know it… but you are already involved...
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Friday May 14, 2010, 6:49 am
ِAudrey says"The israelis asked them to stay and help build the new country but the Arabs said the Isrealis will kill them so most Palestinians left only to be shunned by the Arabs. Read the real history of Israel. You will find it in the library not in the blogs on line put there by enemies of israel."

I invite you to read this and discover ,if you really don't know, that genocide against Palestinians started a long time ago and they were driven away from their homes,land and properties
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Based on classified documents from the Jewish Agency and its affiliated organizations seized by the British Mandate Police, materials that confirm that the Zionist controlled Jewish community intended to remove the Arab inhabitants of Palestine from their land and make the whole of Mandate Palestine a Jewish State, an intent that continues to the present day as the new book, The Plight of the Palestinians: a Long History of Destruction, available at Macmillan.com, demonstrates.)

By William A. Cook

May 12, 2010 "Information Clearing House" -- “Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because Geography books no longer exist, not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either … There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population.” (Moshe Dayan, Address to the Technion, Haifa, as quoted in Haaretz, 4-4-1969)

Thus began in November of 1947 what is euphemistically called the ethnic cleansing of Palestine by the combined forces of the Jewish armies, the Haganah, the Stern, and the Irgun as they drove more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs from their homes leaving them destitute, homeless and abandoned without a country in what is now the largest refugee Diaspora in the world.

More truthfully, the plight of the Palestinians that began so ruthlessly in 1947, and is now called the Nakba, was an intentional, calculated campaign to force the Palestinian Arabs out of Palestine, a systematic genocide of a people as defined by the United Nations in its adoption of Genocide Convention, Article II.

The United Kingdom had mandatory authority from the League of Nations to govern the Palestine area with the establishment of the Palestine Mandate in 1922. Prior to the official implementation of the Mandate in 1922, the British Government had enunciated a “declaration” concerning the desirability of His Majesty’s Government in the “establishment of a national home for the Jewish people,” called the Balfour Declaration. Command Paper 1922 from the Avalon Project at Yale Law School underlines this intent: “His Majesty’s Government therefore now declare unequivocally that it is no part of their policy that Palestine should become a Jewish State.”

The View from Inside the Mandate

One of the curious ambiguities that surrounds the decade that preceded the declaration by the Jewish leaders in Palestine of the state of Israel is the dearth of information and perspective from the British Mandate forces governing Palestine between 1940 and May 15, 1948, the date of implementation of the partition resolution. Fortunately, Sir Richard C. Catling has left us a file that provides insight into conditions that prevailed in Jerusalem while he was Deputy Head of the Special Branch of the Criminal Investigation Division in Jerusalem in 1944 and a year later Assistant Inspector General. Catling’s “TOP SECRET” file has lain untouched in the Rhodes House archives of the Bodleian Libraries of Oxford University until two years ago.

Two documents dominate the file with 62 appendices of evidence totaling close to 500 pages of materials. The first is a dispatch sent to the Secretary of State, dated 16th of October, 1941, by the High Commissioner of Palestine, Harold MacMichael, labeled “Most Secret”; the second, a Top Secret “Memorandum on the Participation of the Jewish National Institutions in Palestine in Acts of Lawlessness and Violence,” prepared by the Criminal Investigation Department headquarters, The Palestine Police, Jerusalem, dated July 31st, 1947. [Sir Richard C. Catling, #145, Mss.Med. S20] 1

What should be obvious now, with the materials preserved by Sir Richard C. Catling, is the truth about the creation of the state of Israel: acceptance of UN Resolution 181 by the Jewish Agency Provisional Government as the designated Jewish state was not done with intent to abide by the goal of the UN General Assembly, to provide a state for two peoples in the land of Palestine, but rather to use it as a means to gain eventual control of all the land and cleanse that land of its indigenous people to whatever extent possible. Put bluntly, as the chapters in Macmillan’s new book, The Plight of the Palestinians attests (to be released in June), the current government in Israel continues the practices of past Israeli governments: cleanse the land of its rightful inhabitants to make that land part of the Jewish state. This is what is termed in numerous chapters in this volume, “slow motion genocide.”

Jump Starting the State

Consider the events of April 9-11, 1948, the eradication of the citizens of the town of Deir Yassin, a month before the Agency declared the existence of the Israeli state and the implementation of the UN Resolution to partition. This massacre became then and remains the signature example of the intent of the Zionist Consultancy and its agents to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its non-Jewish inhabitants. 2

During the six months between the adoption of UN Resolution 181 and in subsequent months, the new state of Israel launched a massive military incursion into territory designated by that same Resolution for the Palestinian people, creating in its wake “three quarters of a million Palestinian refugees,” the destruction of “hundreds of entire villages … not only depopulated but obliterated …and houses blown up or bulldozed.” Walid Khalidi’s massive study focuses on 418 villages, once the homes of Palestinians, 292 completely destroyed, 90 others “largely destroyed,” the remainder replaced by Jews called Israeli settlers. 3

Perceiving the Reality

The “despatch” sent by MacMichael to the Secretary of State resulted from an investigation into the funding practices and use of those funds by various Jewish organizations.

The memorandum illustrates … the fact that the Mandatory is faced potentially with as grave a danger in Palestine from Jewish violence as it has ever faced from Arab violence, a danger infinitely less easy to meet by the methods of repression which have been employed against Arabs. In the first place, the Jews … have the moral and political support … of considerable sections of public opinion both in the United Kingdom and the United States of America. … all the influence and political ability of the Zionists would be brought to bear to show that the Jews in Palestine were the victims of aggression, and that a substantial body of opinion abroad would be persuaded of the truth of the contention. 4

Quite obviously, MacMichael understands that the Mandatory has little power at home over the zealous actions of the Zionists as they manipulate public and political opinion even as they expand their terrorism against the British Mandate government in Palestine. This is an untenable position to be in, responsible for government control and security of those under its authority, i.e. Palestinians as well as Jews, knowing that the Jews are set on driving the British out of Palestine, and knowing that the home government can offer little help.

To bolster his points, MacMichael offers the following:

… the Jews in Palestine are by no means untrained in the use of arms … large numbers have received training in the Palestine Police… or in His Majesty’s Forces. At the present time, in addition to approximately 10,000 Jews in His Majesty’s Forces, there are 5,800 in various units of the police force and 15,400 special policemen (31,000) … When to those men … are added the illicit ‘defence’ organizations of the Jews (Haganah alone had an estimated 60-70,000 men by 1945, see Mss, Med. S20 Appendix XXI), it will be evident that the Jewish people in arms would numerically and in calibre be a very formidable adversary. 5

This is in 1941before the full deployment of Jewish terrorism against the legitimate Palestine government got under way.

MacMichael and Catling found themselves missing one of Catling’s primary supports for the waging of “irregular warfare” drawn from his image of the 3-legged stool that required the support of the people, the commander and his army and the government, an image, no doubt, from his childhood in Suffolk where his family were butchers and farmers. But the situation only got worse as the end of WWII loomed. The Haganah carried out anti-British military operations, including the kidnapping, killing and booby trapping of soldiers’ bodies, conducted against the Mandate Government while the home government remained silent under the pall of Israeli Zionist propaganda. 6

But recording the acts of terrorism does not do justice to the conditions the Mandate government faced. MacMichael describes the reality of the forces aligned against the police in Palestine.

A second matter which deeply impressed me is the almost Nazi control exercised by the official Jewish organizations over the Jewish community, willy nilly, through the administration of funds from abroad, the issue of labor certificates in connection with the immigration quota…. The Royal Commission were, in my view, fundamentally at error in describing the Jewish community in Palestine as “intensely democratic”. … The Zionist organization, the whole social structure which it has created in Palestine, has the trappings but none of the essentials of democracy. The community is under the closed oligarchy of the Jewish official organizations which control Zionist policy and circumscribe the lives of the Jewish community in all directions…. The reality of power is in the Agency, with the Haganah, the illegal military organization, always in the background. 7

And so the authorities in Palestine, the legal authorities, have no power to enforce measures that would curtail terrorism against their own police. “The use of force cannot be contemplated at present as any such action would have to be on a very large scale.” MacMichael understands that he can get no help from the Jewish community, even from those who find themselves at odds with the Agency’s methods or morality. The consequences to the individual Jew for disobedience is horrendous as the second document seized from the Zionists in 1947 attests.

Between Two Worlds

Nothing makes more obvious the meaning of the “Zionist Juggernaut” than Catling’s TOP SECRET “Memorandum of the Criminal Investigation Department” of July 31, 1947.

The purpose of this memorandum is to furnish documentary evidence of the extent to which the supreme Jewish national institutions in Palestine and their principal officials have been parties to acts of sedition, violence, incitement and other offences against the laws of Palestine….The bulk of the memorandum concerns the war and post war years… the memorandum will therefore concern itself solely with an attempt to establish the links between the supreme Jewish bodies and illegal activity... 8

Catling’s memorandum begins with an understanding of the “intricate Jewish political, social and economic structure in Palestine.” A series of appendices chart these structures marking in passing that “…the Palestine Royal Commission Report of 1937 understood ‘The Agency is obviously not a ‘governing body’; it can only advise and cooperate in a certain wide field.’ But allied as it is with the Vaad Leumi, and commanding the allegiance of the great majority of Jews in Palestine, it unquestionably exercises, both in Jerusalem and in London, a considerable influence on the conduct of government” [emphasis mine]. Catling’s frustration with the actual control of the Jews over British policy in Palestine glares through this document. “This powerful and efficient organization amounts, in fact, to a government existing side by side with the Mandatory Government…” (2-3) [emphasis mine]. 9

What Catling doesn’t state in that sentence, but what he demonstrates in the memorandum, is that the Jewish Agency and its affiliated organizations are at war with the UN authority in Palestine, the British Mandate Palestine Government. The appendices include detailed information on the personnel in interlocking Jewish organizations and the function of each. The memorandum goes further. It notes that the activities of the Jewish Agency through its controlled organizations send emissaries and instructors abroad “to stir up Zionist sentiments among the Jewish communities and displaced persons, to bring pressure to bear upon the Palestine problem, to organize illegal immigration and engage in espionage.” As a result of its investigations, the Department itemizes six areas of subversive activities undertaken by the Jewish Agency against the British Mandate Government:

1. Maintenance of a secret army and espionage system;
2. Smuggling, theft and manufacture of arms;
3. Illegal immigration;
4. Violence and civil disobedience;
5. Seditious and hostile propaganda;
6. Encroachment upon the civil rights of Jewish citizens. 10

In short, the Zionist controlled Jewish Agency, the Yishuv, actively undermined the legal authority in Palestine even as it operated to undermine support for that government in Britain, placing UK forces in harms way as they attempted to fulfill their authorized responsibilities in Palestine. It also demonstrates the determination of the Agency’s leadership in undermining the very nation that gave it a means of establishing a “homeland” in Palestine through the Balfour Declaration. Needless to say, Catling and his CID forces recognized the impossible position this defiance placed them in and understood the deception and violent means used by the Zionists to ensure that their will and theirs alone would be fulfilled at any cost.

However, the real power behind their efforts, what effectively held together the multiple strands of the web, was the use of extortion on all the Jewish people in Palestine, “…the extortion of money for unauthorized funds and self imposed taxes to further the illicit political ends of the national institutions” (42). Catling’s Memorandum provides evidence of how effective this consolidation of the web’s network operated including the systematic compilation of all wage earners, measures to be adopted in event of refusal to pay, publishing of names of those who failed to contribute, deductions from salary, sanctions on businesses, compulsory assessment, withholding of immigrants certificates, and Jewish Agency officials assessments.

There follows the measures to be taken against shirkers including actions to be taken against anyone aiding a shirker. There is no need to go into the details of these imposed actions; the consequences amount to total ostracism of an individual from his/her community to kidnapping and disappearance.

For those entering the military forces of the Jewish Agency, the Hagana, there is the Hagana Oath (XVI A 157).

I hereby declare that of my own free will and in free recognition I enter the Jewish defence organization of the Land of Israel, (Irgun Haganana Haivri Be’Eretz Israel).

I hearby swear to remain loyal all the days of my life to the defense organization, its laws and its tasks as defined in its basic regulations by the High Command.

I hearby swear to remain at the disposal of the defense organization all my life, to accept its discipline unconditionally and without limit, and at its call to enlist for active service at any time and in any place, to obey all its orders and to fulfill all its instructions.

I hearby swear to devote all my strength, and even to sacrifice my life, to defense and battle for my people and my Homeland, for the freedom of Israel and for the redemption of Zion. 11

In one sense, these two methodologies of control, one imposed by fear, the second by moral obligation, make comprehensible the complete control the Zionists were able to achieve over a protracted period of time toward their distant goals. The fear imposed by extortion rests on its use in providing access to jobs, the protection offered by the “gangs” and Haganah forces, and the enforcement of the rules and regulations as itemized above.

The Haganah Oath goes deeper than fear. In effect, it declares that an individual has turned his/her conscience over to the High Command thus accepting what is right and what is wrong as determined by that authority regardless of local, state or international law, indeed, regardless of the morals, values and traditions of Judaism. This commitment is forever, to death. It is bolstered by a document issued to the Commander and Troops of the Haganah labeled “Security Instructions” that notes at the outset, “Remember, you are a member of an illegal military organization according to the Laws of the government, its existence, activity and membership of it is forbidden” The remainder of the document obligates the recruit to unconditional obedience, absolute silence, and the pragmatic and utilitarian virtues of deceit and lying. 12

Selling the Soul

From the moment an individual takes the oath, they are committed to a life of secrecy and hence of disloyalty and betrayal to those they are most intimate with in their day to day life. Neither their actions nor their true identity is discernible to those with whom they interact regularly. This is a life that encapsulates the necessity of lies, deceit, coercion, extortion, and obedience to a group that dictates the actions one must pursue; freedom no longer exists, self-direction no longer exists, loyalty to others no longer exists, indeed, friendship with others is compromised or impossible, one becomes the subject of that group, a veritable slave to their desires and wills. The mindset that promotes such control allows for spying, for deception of friends, for ostracism in one’s own community for thinking differently, for imprisonment without due process, for torture, even for extrajudicial executions. It is a total commitment to a cause that supersedes all others determined and dictated by an oligarchy in silence and subject to no legitimate institution and to no one.
Notes

1- Catling, Sir Richard C. Personal Classified “Top Secret” files. Rhodes House Library Archives. #145. Mss. Medit. S 20 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) Appendices circa 475 pages of seized documents. Oxford: Bodleian Libraries.
2- Morris, Benny. (1999). Righteous Victims: A History of the Zionist-Arab Conflict, 1881-2001. Knopf. 208.
3- Khalidi, Walid. (1992). All That Remains. Institute for Palestinian Studies: Washington, D.C. xv.
4- MacMichael, Harold. (1947). “Memorandum on the Participation of the Jewish National Institutions in Palestine in Acts of Lawlessness and Violence” The Palestine Police, Jerusalem, 7-31-1947 in Catling file.
5- MacMichael. “dispatch.” 1.
6- Ibid., “Despatch.” 2.
7- Ibid., “Despatch.” 2.
8- Catling. “Memorandum.” 1-2.
9- Ibid., “Memorandum.” 2-3.
10- Ibid. “Memorandum.” 5.
11- Ibid., Appendix, XVIA, 157.
12- Ibid., Appendix, XXVIII, 219.

 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Friday May 14, 2010, 7:03 am
Ian N.
All lies. EAST JERUSALEM DOES NOT BELONG TO JEWISH ISRAELIS. I invite you read this. Period.

Top Ten Reasons East Jerusalem does not belong to Jewish-Israelis
Posted on March 23, 2010 by Juan
Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu told the American Israel Public Affairs Council on Monday that “Jerusalem is not a settlement.” He continued that the historical connection between the Jewish people and the land of Israel cannot be denied. He added that neither could the historical connection between the Jewish people and Jerusalem. He insisted, “The Jewish people were building Jerusalem 3,000 years ago and the Jewish people are building Jerusalem today.” He said, “Jerusalem is not a settlement. It is our capital.” He told his applauding audience of 7500 that he was simply following the policies of all Israeli governments since the 1967 conquest of Jerusalem in the Six Day War.

Netanyahu mixed together Romantic-nationalist cliches with a series of historically false assertions. But even more important was everything he left out of the history, and his citation of his warped and inaccurate history instead of considering laws, rights or common human decency toward others not of his ethnic group.

So here are the reasons that Netanyahu is profoundly wrong, and East Jerusalem does not belong to him.

1. In international law, East Jerusalem is occupied territory, as are the parts of the West Bank that Israel unilaterally annexed to its district of Jerusalem. The Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949 and the Hague Regulations of 1907 forbid occupying powers to alter the lifeways of civilians who are occupied, and forbid the settling of people from the occupiers’ country in the occupied territory. Israel’s expulsion of Palestinians from their homes in East Jerusalem, its usurpation of Palestinian property there, and its settling of Israelis on Palestinian land are all gross violations of international law. Israeli claims that they are not occupying Palestinians because the Palestinians have no state are cruel and tautological. Israeli claims that they are building on empty territory are laughable. My back yard is empty, but that does not give Netanyahu the right to put up an apartment complex on it.

2. Israeli governments have not in fact been united or consistent about what to do with East Jerusalem and the West Bank, contrary to what Netanyahu says. The Galili Plan for settlements in the West Bank was adopted only in 1973. Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin gave undertakings as part of the Oslo Peace Process to withdraw from Palestinian territory and grant Palestinians a state, promises for which he was assassinated by the Israeli far right (elements of which are now supporting Netanyahu’s government). As late as 2000, then Prime Minister Ehud Barak claims that he gave oral assurances that Palestinians could have almost all of the West Bank and could have some arrangement by which East Jerusalem could be its capital. Netanyahu tried to give the impression that far rightwing Likud policy on East Jerusalem and the West Bank has been shared by all previous Israeli governments, but this is simply not true.

3. Romantic nationalism imagines a “people” as eternal and as having an eternal connection with a specific piece of land. This way of thinking is fantastic and mythological. Peoples are formed and change and sometimes cease to be, though they might have descendants who abandoned that religion or ethnicity or language. Human beings have moved all around and are not directly tied to any territory in an exclusive way, since many groups have lived on most pieces of land. Jerusalem was not founded by Jews, i.e. adherents of the Jewish religion. It was founded between 3000 BCE and 2600 BCE by a West Semitic people or possibly the Canaanites, the common ancestors of Palestinians, Lebanese, many Syrians and Jordanians, and many Jews. But when it was founded Jews did not exist.

4. Jerusalem was founded in honor of the ancient god Shalem. It does not mean City of Peace but rather ‘built-up place of Shalem.”

5. The “Jewish people” were not building Jerusalem 3000 years ago, i.e. 1000 BCE. First of all, it is not clear when exactly Judaism as a religion centered on the worship of the one God took firm form. It appears to have been a late development since no evidence of worship of anything but ordinary Canaanite deities has been found in archeological sites through 1000 BCE. There was no invasion of geographical Palestine from Egypt by former slaves in the 1200s BCE. The pyramids had been built much earlier and had not used slave labor. The chronicle of the events of the reign of Ramses II on the wall in Luxor does not know about any major slave revolts or flights by same into the Sinai peninsula. Egyptian sources never heard of Moses or the 10 plagues & etc. Jews and Judaism emerged from a certain social class of Canaanites over a period of centuries inside Palestine.

6. Jerusalem not only was not being built by the likely then non-existent “Jewish people” in 1000 BCE, but Jerusalem probably was not even inhabited at that point in history. Jerusalem appears to have been abandoned between 1000 BCE and 900 BCE, the traditional dates for the united kingdom under David and Solomon. So Jerusalem was not ‘the city of David,’ since there was no city when he is said to have lived. No sign of magnificent palaces or great states has been found in the archeology of this period, and the Assyrian tablets, which recorded even minor events throughout the Middle East, such as the actions of Arab queens, don’t know about any great kingdom of David and Solomon in geographical Palestine.

7. Since archeology does not show the existence of a Jewish kingdom or kingdoms in the so-called First Temple Period, it is not clear when exactly the Jewish people would have ruled Jerusalem except for the Hasmonean Kingdom. The Assyrians conquered Jerusalem in 722. The Babylonians took it in 597 and ruled it until they were themselves conquered in 539 BCE by the Achaemenids of ancient Iran, who ruled Jerusalem until Alexander the Great took the Levant in the 330s BCE. Alexander’s descendants, the Ptolemies ruled Jerusalem until 198 when Alexander’s other descendants, the Seleucids, took the city. With the Maccabean Revolt in 168 BCE, the Jewish Hasmonean kingdom did rule Jerusalem until 37 BCE, though Antigonus II Mattathias, the last Hasmonean, only took over Jerusalem with the help of the Parthian dynasty in 40 BCE. Herod ruled 37 BCE until the Romans conquered what they called Palestine in 6 CE (CE= ‘Common Era’ or what Christians call AD). The Romans and then the Eastern Roman Empire of Byzantium ruled Jerusalem from 6 CE until 614 CE when the Iranian Sasanian Empire Conquered it, ruling until 629 CE when the Byzantines took it back.

The Muslims conquered Jerusalem in 638 and ruled it until 1099 when the Crusaders conquered it. The Crusaders killed or expelled Jews and Muslims from the city. The Muslims under Saladin took it back in 1187 CE and allowed Jews to return, and Muslims ruled it until the end of World War I, or altogether for about 1192 years.

Adherents of Judaism did not found Jerusalem. It existed for perhaps 2700 years before anything we might recognize as Judaism arose. Jewish rule may have been no longer than 170 years or so, i.e., the kingdom of the Hasmoneans.

8. Therefore if historical building of Jerusalem and historical connection with Jerusalem establishes sovereignty over it as Netanyahu claims, here are the groups that have the greatest claim to the city:

A. The Muslims, who ruled it and built it over 1191 years.

B. The Egyptians, who ruled it as a vassal state for several hundred years in the second millennium BCE.

C. The Italians, who ruled it about 444 years until the fall of the Roman Empire in 450 CE.

D. The Iranians, who ruled it for 205 years under the Achaemenids, for three years under the Parthians (insofar as the last Hasmonean was actually their vassal), and for 15 years under the Sasanids.

E. The Greeks, who ruled it for over 160 years if we count the Ptolemys and Seleucids as Greek. If we count them as Egyptians and Syrians, that would increase the Egyptian claim and introduce a Syrian one.

F. The successor states to the Byzantines, which could be either Greece or Turkey, who ruled it 188 years, though if we consider the heir to be Greece and add in the time the Hellenistic Greek dynasties ruled it, that would give Greece nearly 350 years as ruler of Jerusalem.

G. There is an Iraqi claim to Jerusalem based on the Assyrian and Babylonian conquests, as well as perhaps the rule of the Ayyubids (Saladin’s dynasty), who were Kurds from Iraq.

9. Of course, Jews are historically connected to Jerusalem by the Temple, whenever that connection is dated to. But that link mostly was pursued when Jews were not in political control of the city, under Iranian, Greek and Roman rule. It cannot therefore be deployed to make a demand for political control of the whole city.

10. The Jews of Jerusalem and the rest of Palestine did not for the most part leave after the failure of the Bar Kochba revolt against the Romans in 136 CE. They continued to live there and to farm in Palestine under Roman rule and then Byzantine. They gradually converted to Christianity. After 638 CE all but 10 percent gradually converted to Islam. The present-day Palestinians are the descendants of the ancient Jews and have every right to live where their ancestors have lived for centuries.
 

Pete m (67)
Friday May 14, 2010, 7:16 am
Audrey; ''...she was given an arid piece of desert where her people could live in peace? look what she carved out of the desert.''

Yet another piece of zionist horsemanure-

Tell Me Again, Who Made The Desert Bloom?

In December 1945 and January 1946, the British Mandate authorities carried out an extensive survey of Palestine, in support of the work of the United Nations Special Committee on Palestine. The results were published in the Survey of Palestine, which has been scanned and made available online by Palestine Remembered; all 1300 pages can be read here.

One of the subjects investigated in the Survey of Palestine is land use; specifically, which crops were Palestine's leading agricultural products at the end of the British Mandate, and whose farms were producing them.

So, according to the Survey of Palestine, who really made the barley fields of Beersheba bloom?

The British government survey found that in 1944-45 Palestine’s farmers produced approximately 210,000 tons of grain.

About 193,400 tons of that grain were cultivated on Palestinian farms; about 16,600 tons were cultivated on Jewish farms.

Who made the melon patches of Jaffa bloom?

The British government survey found that in 1944-45 Palestine’s farmers produced approximately 143,000 tons of melons.

About 136,000 tons of those melons were cultivated on Palestinian farms; a little over 7,000 tons were cultivated on Jewish farms.

Who made the tobacco fields of Safad bloom?

The British government survey found that in 1944-45 Palestine’s farmers produced approximately 1,683 tons of tobacco, on 28,169 dunams of land. Virtually all the land under tobacco cultivation was Palestinian.

Who made the vineyards of Hebron bloom?

The British government survey found that in 1944-45 Palestine’s farmers produced approximately 40-50,000 tons of grapes, and between 3-4 million litres of wine. About 86% of the land that produced these products was owned and cultivated by Palestinians.

Who made the olive groves of Tulkarm bloom?

The British government survey found that in 1944-45 Palestine’s farmers produced approximately 79,000 tons of olives.

About 78,000 tons of those olives were cultivated on Palestinian farms; a little over 1,000 tons were cultivated on Jewish farms.

Who made the banana groves of Tiberias bloom?

The British government survey found that in 1944-45 Palestine’s farmers produced approximately 8,000 tons of bananas.

About 60% of the land that produced these bananas was owned and cultivated by Palestinians.

Who made the vegetable fields of the coastal plain bloom?

The British government survey found that in 1944-45 Palestine’s farmers produced approximately 245,000 tons of vegetables.

About 189,000 tons of those vegetables were cultivated by Palestinian farmers; about 56,000 tons were cultivated by Jewish farmers.

So, on the eve of the partition resolution, in which the United Nations proposed to allocate 55 percent of the land to Jewish Palestine (including those parts that produced most of Palestine's leading crops, with the sole exception of the olive crop), and 45% to Arab Palestine, Palestinian Arabs were producing:

92% of Palestine’s grain
86% of its grapes
99% of its olives
77 % of its vegetables
95% of its melons
more than 99% of its tobacco
and 60% of its bananas.

Palestine's agricultural produce at that time had an annual value of approximately 21.8 million pounds sterling; 17.1 million of which was produced by Arab cultivation, and 4.7 million by Jewish cultivation. (See the exact numbers here).

So, who made the desert bloom? The Palestinians made the desert bloom.

http://lawrenceofcyberia.blogs.com/news/2010/03/palestinians-made-the-desert-bloom.html

Visit site for links ,photos etc.
 

Dorcas H (8)
Friday May 14, 2010, 1:06 pm
This is what you get when a people considers themselves, superior and without anyone to answer to for their barbaric behavior toward their fellowman. Does God reward, murder of children, does god condone and ask us to condone the starving and genocide of a people because you believe yourself to be better than those people. Oppression is cruel, heartless, and god will punish every work that is not a good work and not in line with his will for his people. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. You shall be held accountable for the least you do to the least of these.
 

Pete m (67)
Saturday May 15, 2010, 2:07 am
'There remains only one viable solution for that mess we see in the Middle East.

Like every other country being preyed upon by rotten egg sucking weasels, Israel requires a revolution in order to drive a stake through the heart of that blood sucking vampire bat, before that bat makes things even worse. For the end of a wicked fool is ruinous destruction. Idiotic folly is the characteristic hall mark of the behavior of the wicked.
The wicked boast and their minds are puffed up.

They think, ‘No one can see me. I will never be shaken, and I will continue rule the world for all generations.' But the wicked are found to be placed on a slippery slope, their feet slip, and they begin their relentless slide down that cliff, over a slope and into the bottomless pit.

The end of a wicked fool is the destruction of the people of Israel who will be found riding that idiotic turd as it swirls down a toilet bowl, as though a turd like that one was something you would ride as though it were a pony.

Since the United Nations committed an act of gross injustice when it voted for the creation of the State of Israel, and so they should pay a big fat fine, the money being used to repair the ruinous wreckage and the damage caused by that brain dead decision.

For you see, during the British mandate the census reveals that Palestinians numbered millions and there were only tens of thousands of Jewish people in that area at the time, which means that hundreds of thousands of people were robbed by some armed bandits at the United Nations who were conspiring with those horse thieves, those Zionists, as they worked to supposedly fulfill the prophecy of that egg sucking weasel invented by the Priest and the King of Israel so long ago.

Restitution is the best form of justice when a robbery has occurred.

This is a point worth keeping in mind if one of those brain dead oppressive so called ‘prophets' shows up with a can of white wash and tries to cover that big crack in the wall with white wash by making that ridiculous claim, endlessly repeated, that the country of Israel was like an empty desert before the Jewish people returned to their vacant and empty land.

Apparently such morons consider Hitler's big lie technique to be a form of doing prophecy, thus explaining why they are constantly found to be white washing cracks, since it does not matter to such cruel weirdos whether or not a thing is true, only that you be brainwashed by thinking a lie is the truth.

Such detestable cretins pass for prophets in some church circles, and this is a clear indication that some rotten egg sucking has been going on in those places, for only when you have poisoned yourself by sucking on a rotten egg would you ever be willing to put up with demented oppressors acting like Hitler and passing themselves off as prophets.''

I have often heard it said that both Israel and the Palestinians have the right to live in peace, but while I hear platitudes I never hear anything that resembles a real solution, but that could be because those who only mutter platitudes don't have an agenda, because they understand nothing and therefore don't know what they are doing.

A know nothing is not someone to propose a real agenda, and even if they did propose an agenda it would be something worthless, because they understand nothing.

They are blind and they cannot see.''
 

Pete m (67)
Saturday May 15, 2010, 2:08 am
http://www.awitness.org/column/revolution_zionist.html
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Saturday May 15, 2010, 7:14 pm
Well Pete M.........I don't think you know diddley squat. The way you waffle on - they do say bulls...baffles brains.....it's certainly baffled mine. You are the blind one here and YOU seem to have only ONE AGENDA - to see Israel fail. Why do you think Egypt and Jordan and Lebanon kicked the Palestinians out of their countries and refused to have them back.....Beacause they are always causing trouble. Israel has never started a war - but have fought four and won against their aggressors and oppressors. If the shoe is now on the other foot - so be it.
Stop all the nitpicking about grammar - and focus on the topic at hand. Shalom
 

Pete m (67)
Sunday May 16, 2010, 7:01 am
Fungi; ''Israel has never started a war - but have fought four and won against their aggressors and oppressors.''

Here's an excerpt from an article that you may find enlightening, tho it was written in 2003 so doesn't include the 2006 invasion of Lebanon (1500 dead civilians) and Operation 'Vast Dead' massacre of 1500 mainly innocent civilians in Gaza in 2008/9.
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Israeli aggression in the past and present

By Hassan El-Najjar and Michael Bokerelli

June 15, 2003



'' ...all the wars launched in the Middle East were Israeli wars of aggression or reistance to these wars. It seems that the Middle East, and the world, will not see peace until Israelis and their supporters acknowledge that you cannot invade and occupy other nations without triggering resistance. Only when Israelis become peaceful people, the Middle East and the world will enjoy peace. I hope and pray that this happen as soon as possible.

I agree with you, and I think the whole world also agrees that the two-state solution is not only the only feasable one now, but the most urgent step to stop the bloodshed on both sides.

However, I know and you know that Israeli settlers and their militant supporters in the US do not believe in that.
They want the land without the people, which leads to nothing but the continution of the conflict. They should not be allowed to continue in control of this bloody game.

Having said that, I do not believe that the two-state solution is a perfect solution on the long-run. The problems of refugees, borders, resources, and Jerusalem will prevent the two states from complete separation. Cooperation in all aspects of life is inevitable, particularly in the economic field. That is why it is wrong to have all this bloodshed and all this bitterness before the temporary separation, the Palestinian independence. This means that insisting on the Jewishness of Israel is not right. Palestinian Arabs who hold the Israeli citizenship constitute about 20 percent of the Israelis right now. If the state is to be exclusively Jewish, does this mean that they will lose their citizenship? Does this mean that they have to convert to Judaism? I don't think you want to do that. The future is for more pluralism, more peace, and more integration. When peace prevails and people enjoy it after a century-long conflict, they will be more tolerant and more cooperative. At least this is what I think and I hope more people will agree with me. Peace.''
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Re Israeli apologists-

''Apparently such morons consider Hitler's big lie technique to be a form of doing prophecy, thus explaining why they are constantly found to be white washing cracks, since it does not matter to such cruel weirdos whether or not a thing is true, only that you be brainwashed by thinking a lie is the truth. ''
 

Tom W (24)
Sunday May 16, 2010, 8:09 pm
Let get the facts and clear - This Jewish holocaust must be stopped.
There are no chosen people - The present day 'Jews' or 'Israelites' are not the children of Abraham.
Other words they are not the true Jews but decedents from an Eastern European race known as the" Khazars" whose King converted to Judaism about 1,200 years ago.
Present day Jews or Israelites are no more Jewish than the Japanese.
This dates back to the Diaspora and the ten lost tribes who went somewhere perhaps Northern Europe.
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Monday May 17, 2010, 12:27 am
Who lives with the sword dies with the sword. This is the destiny of the Zionist entity
 

Bracha Katz (31)
Monday May 17, 2010, 9:40 pm
israel lets plenty of things into gaza, like food, supplies, medecine and aid. plenty more of those, and many weapons are smuggled in. before israel bombs in gaza, they spend an enormous amount of money dropping flyers, sending text messages and more thing to warn the palestinians. during the years when there was a crazy amount of suicide bombing in israel, there was no warning at all. in gaza and the west bank, it is very hard to diffrenciat between a soldier and civillian. is a man who let's soldiers hide in his house while they shoot at israeli soldiers a soldier or civillian? are teenagers who throw rocks at israeli soldiers civillians or soldiers? palestinian children are taught from an early age to hate jews, americans and other infidels, so most of palestinian society is a cross between a civillian and a soldier. israeli soldiers have to make very difficult choices, i would go nuts if i was faced with such a choice.
i was raised as a religious and i personally never heard that it is ok to kill non-jews who might be a threat to israel (at certain times it was 'ok', and i don't agree with that at all, but nowdays it's defenitely not allowed), i think that there is some radicals in every religion who say it is ok to kill people not in that religion, and it is not necessarily what most people in that religion think it is ok to do. i heard of rabbis who go to the army and defenitely did not preach that the soldiers should kill innocent people. as far as i know, religios jews aren't so into being in the army, they believe it is their duty to pray and learn torah so that god would give israel peace. maybe this has changed over the past few years and i didn't know about it.
it says on the video that israel receives the most aid. is it talking about the parts of israel that are actuall under the israeli government? palestinian ruled areas receive the most aid per capita in the world, yet it remains one o the poorest. the time when these areas had the best economies were when they were under the israeli government.
the palestinians are really suffering, but it is not israel's fault. i pray for them often, that they should really be helped. but putting down israel isn't helping them in the long run. may god bless us with peace in the middle east.
 

paul l (2)
Monday May 17, 2010, 11:36 pm
I read the comments with more and more indignation!
Comments like"Why did we save this scum from the Nazis, wicked nature of Israeli monsters, filthy Jew bastards, and others make me sick.
People forget quickly.
Was it tje Jews that destroyed the World Trade Center?
Did you Jew bashers lose family through the Nazi atrocities?
I lost schoolfriends and I am not a Jew.
You people make me sick!
Of course the Jews commit unpardonable acts but what about the Muslims?
It is all extrmely one-sided and when you listen to the questions asked, you will find that in most cases, the Israelis didn't even get a chance to reply before they were interrupted!
Shame on you bunch of people who call yourselves Americans.
I grew up in Amsterdam and I personally know of families that were sent to gaschambers and never came back.
Not only grown-ups but little children as well!
You "dikkydoo" feels not enough Jews were murdered?
Are you yourself a human being or a follower of Satan.
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Wednesday May 19, 2010, 5:32 am
To Tara and Johan
1) whatever Jews were subject to during ww2 doesn't justify the crimes they are commiting against the Palestinians specialy when we know that many Jews fled from Europ during the war and lived in the Arab countries like Egypt as an example. The Arabs in general and the Palestinians in Particuler are not resposible for what happened to the Jews in Europe and thus not responsible for giving them a home in their countries and against the interest of the Palestinians in contrast of both the Balfore declaration and the league of Nations mandate given to Braitain because both documents say that this shouldn't affect the Palestinians.
2) The Palestinians are freedom fighters and they have the right according to international lkaw to resist the occupation by all possible means. The Palestinian children are dealing with the Zionist as occupiers and throwing stones or even rocks against them as you say,is not only their right but also their duty.
3) Unfortunately the non violenc resistance doesn't work with the IDF which is using all weapons against the Palestinians. Did you forget the white phosphorus the Palestinians were subject to by Israel's war planes?

The list of the Zionists crimes against humanity ,detailed in the UN proof finding mission,is documented in Goldstone report. The list is too long.
As long as Israel insists to steal Palestinians land,build settlements on their land,seperate them from their farms by the apartheid wall,demolish their homes,uproot their olive trees and make their life misrable,it will be faced by resistants ( freedom fighters ) and it only has to blame itself. If Israel is really serioue peace can be achieved infew months but peace needs brave men and Israel hasn't such men at the present time and is neither willing nor able to achieve peace.
 
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