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US Senator Joseph Lieberman Wants to Kill the Internet - for Israel!!


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Dave
- 2697 days ago - redress.cc
"US Senator, Joseph Lieberman, wants to undermine American civil liberties, in particular, in his current attempt to destroy the internet, perhaps in order "to protect his treasonous cronies from the American people. . ."



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Thursday July 1, 2010, 4:24 pm
US's own little chicken little, Senator Lieberman.
 

Dave C (867)
Thursday July 1, 2010, 4:25 pm
Guess who wants to kill the internet?

“If the United States looks increasingly like a police state Senator Lieberman has to take much of the credit”

By Maidhc Ó Cathail

2 July 2010

Maidhc Ó Cathail views US Senator Joseph Lieberman’s efforts to undermine American civil liberties, in particular his current attempt to destroy the internet, perhaps in order “to protect his treasonous cronies from the American people”.

It would be hard to think of anyone who has done more to undermine American freedoms than Joseph Lieberman.

Since 9/11, the independent senator from Connecticut has introduced a raft of legislation in the name of the “global war on terror” which has steadily eroded constitutional rights. If the United States looks increasingly like a police state, Senator Lieberman has to take much of the credit for it.

On 11 October 2001, exactly one month after 9/11, Lieberman introduced S. 1534, a bill to establish a Department of Homeland Security. Since then, he has been the main mover behind such draconian legislation as the Protect America Act of 2007, the Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010, and the proposed Terrorist Expatriation Act, which would revoke the citizenship of Americans suspected of terrorism. And now the senator from Connecticut wants to kill the internet.

According to the bill he recently proposed in the Senate, the entire global internet is to be claimed as a “national asset” of the United States. If Congress passes the bill, the US president would be given the power to “kill” the internet in the event of a “national cyber-emergency”. Supporters of the legislation say this is necessary to prevent a “cyber 9/11” – yet another myth from the fearmongers who brought us tales of “Iraqi weapons of mass destruction” and “Iranian nukes”.

Lieberman’s concerns about the internet are not new. The United States Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, which Lieberman chairs, released a report in 2008 entitled “Violent Islamist extremism, the internet, and the homegrown terrorist threat”. The report claimed that groups like Al-Qaeda use the internet to indoctrinate and recruit members, and to communicate with each other.

Immediately after the report was published, Lieberman asked Google, the parent company of YouTube, to “immediately remove content produced by Islamist terrorist organizations”. That might sound like a reasonable request. However, as far as Lieberman is concerned, Hamas, Hezbollah and even the Iranian Revolutionary Guard are terrorist organizations.

It’s hardly surprising that Lieberman’s views on what constitute terrorism parallel those of Tel Aviv. As Mark Vogel, chairman of the largest pro-Israel Political Action Committee (PAC) in the United States, once said: “Joe Lieberman, without exception, no conditions ... is the No. 1 pro-Israel advocate and leader in Congress. There is nobody who does more on behalf of Israel than Joe Lieberman.”

Lieberman has been well-rewarded for his patriotism – to another country. In the past six years, he has been the Senate’s top recipient of political contributions from pro-Israel PACs with a staggering 1,226,956 US dollars.

But what is it that bothers Lieberman so much about the internet? Could it be that it allows ordinary Americans access to facts which reveal exactly what kind of “friend” Israel has been to its overgenerous benefactor? Facts which they have been denied by the pro-Israel mainstream media.

How much faith would American voters have in the likes of Lieberman, who claims that the Jewish state is their greatest ally, if they knew that Israeli agents planted firebombs in American installations in Egypt in 1954 in an attempt to undermine relations between President Gamal Abdel Nasser and the United States; that Israel murdered 34 American servicemen in a deliberate attack on the USS Liberty on 8 June 1967; that Israeli espionage, most notably Jonathan Pollard’s spying, has done tremendous damage to American interests; that five Mossad agents were filming and celebrating as the Twin Towers collapsed on 11 September 2001; that Tel Aviv and its accomplices in Washington were the source of the false pre-war intelligence on Iraq; and about countless other examples of treachery?

In his latest attempt to censor the internet, does Lieberman really want to protect the American people from imaginary cyber-terrorists? Or is he just trying to protect his treasonous cronies from the American people?

http://www.redress.cc/americas/mocathail20100702
 

Mack D (100)
Thursday July 1, 2010, 4:32 pm
AGREE
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday July 1, 2010, 5:28 pm
The man holds an Israeli citizenship.. he's not loyal to America as he claims. So does Rahm Emanuel.

ATW
 

Matloob ul Hasan (81)
Thursday July 1, 2010, 7:18 pm
Noted, thanks.
 

Sam H (410)
Thursday July 1, 2010, 7:46 pm
Bush destroyed the world but saved us from Lieberman.
 

Agnes H (144)
Friday July 2, 2010, 12:00 am
Of course the Israeli filmed the destroying of the Twin Towers as it were the Israelies who destroyed them, It was the Israelies who were going to bomb one of the Tunnels. If Lieberman holds an Israeli Passport he's got no right to be in the government, unless the Government of course is also being paid by the Israelies. It sounds like Lieberman should have gone to one of the concetrationcamps and come out alive after 6 yrs. Maybe he would have more compassion for the life of others. I read it were the Israeli who did the 9/11 as they warned the government about the Palestinians also trying to bomb one of the Tunnels. They gave the wrong name and the Police decided to check every tunnel and they were caught red handed, yet they were sent home!!! Instead it were a few innocent Palestinians who got caught for it and the Israelies got off shot free how's that?

I believe a lot of your government is pro Israeli, your government is the reason my son is still suffering and doesn't want to do his orriginal job anymore in the forces. He's an Officer now don't get me wrong, but it was because of the Gulf war he suffered and was ready to talk to his father as he was in a simular job when someone asked him how many Arabs he'd shot! He hasn't talked openly to me ever since where as before he had no secrets for me. Now all he talks to me about are his sons, which is alright with me but I like to know about him as well after all he is my son and he cared for me when I was ill and his father was at work. I blame the Israeli for that and not the Iraqis or Afghans. I don't blame the Arabs at all. I've got an Arab in the family, not here mind and he's the loveliest man you can meet.

So why should we be shut up by Lieberman because he cares about the Israeli? If he cares that much about them he ought to go and live in Israel, I'm sure they'd look after him and his family or is he afraid of something else? There are good Israelis but the worst are the ones in Politics!!!!
 

low beng kiat (128)
Friday July 2, 2010, 2:20 am
thanks
 

. (0)
Friday July 2, 2010, 2:37 am
I'm not overly fond of the concept of the Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, which I think is far too broad in its scope. And I also believe that Americans should not legally be allowed to hold dual citizenship - and that certainly no government official involved in setting policy should be allowed to be a dual citizen. Whether or not it affects his or her judgment, there is at least a significant appearance of impropriety.

But I do question the author of this article's intent when he speaks of some of Lieberman's positions. Lieberman is hardly alone when he considers Hamas and Hezbollah to be 'terrorist' organizations. So do the European Union, Canada, U.S. State Department, the United Kingdom, and others.

On that issue, I see nothing unusual in a U.S. Senator holding the same viewpoint as his own government.

And as for his considering the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization, he is also not alone in that:

"Before the Kyl-Lieberman amendment was introduced, Obama cosponsored a bill that called for the IRGC to be designated as "a Foreign Terrorist Operation." Obama was one of 72 cosponsors of the Iran Counter-Proliferation Act, which states (in part):

Iran Counter-Proliferation Act: The Secretary of State should designate the Iranian Revolutionary Guards as a Foreign Terrorist Organization ... and the Secretary of the Treasury should place the Iranian Revolutionary Guards on the list of Specially Designated Global Terrorists under Executive Order 13224....." http://www.newsweek.com/2008/06/04/soft-on-iran.html

"The Obama Campaign Stated That Obama Has Taken A Consistent Position. "Obama Has Consistently Urged That Iran's Revolutionary Guard Be Labeled What It Is: A Terrorist Organization." http://www.standardnewswire.com/news/554262814.html

And I see nothing unusual in Lieberman supporting a position which a substantial number of other senators, including Obama, also supported.



 

SuS NoMail Plez P (244)
Friday July 2, 2010, 3:03 am
Thank you Dave for this BRILLIANT thread. Thank you Agnes for forwarding my way. I have nothing to share as Dave's first post said FAR MORE than I am was aware of! Agnes, I loved your comment as well {although 6 years wouldn't be enough in my very humble opinion. I DID watch the "CELEBRATION and LAUGHTER" watching the TT fall. I wish I recalled which year. Ohhhhh this man makes me so angry....Thank you again. PEACE
 

SuS NoMail Plez P (244)
Friday July 2, 2010, 3:06 am
Unfortunately my note is not appearing. Please contact me if this continues to occur. I will send this out to my friends who will be most happy to share on this thread being brilliant in their extreme knowledge regarding this issue.
 

Lionel Mann (23)
Friday July 2, 2010, 3:07 am
From time immemorial rulers have used xenophobia to cow their subjects into subservience. Do you remember "Reds under the beds" now giving way to "Imams on the divans"? We have seen the U.S.A. turned into a police state rivalling that of Nazi Germany through irrational alarm promoted by ruthless power-crazed politicians. Your ridiculous "War on Terror" far from "making the U.S.A. a safer place" is daily increasing the numbers of your enemies. Liebermann is but one of many of your leaders who benefit from frightening the abysmally ignorant populace into submission to their designs.
 

. (0)
Friday July 2, 2010, 3:20 am
noted~ Thanks Dave!!
 

AWAY AWHILE Cal Mendelsohn (1087)
Friday July 2, 2010, 3:28 am
As far as civil liberties go, Joe Lieberman has been a loose and paranoid cannon for quite some time. I guess I agree mostly with Lindsay that some of his positions aren't unusual. in terms of who embodies a terrorist group. I've never believed that you should sacrifice the cow to get the milk, which is of course, what he and others like Rudy Giuliani have always believed in terms of our shrinking civil liberties..
Overall, a peculiar title to the post, but I share deep concerns about this paranoia and its'; effects on civil liberties and the tie in to Israel is somewhat circumstantial. After all, Israel did the bold things it did way BEFORE the advent of the Internet and I can't imagine the would alter their plans no matter who controls the Internet or declares it an asset.

Otherwise, thanks for the post, Dave.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday July 2, 2010, 4:43 am
Thank you!
 

Terry B (649)
Friday July 2, 2010, 5:10 am
A bit off the subject, but I have to dispute Lindsey's opposition to dual citizenship, except perhaps in specific, unusual cases.

I am a dual Canadian and American citizen and have served in the armed forces of both countries, which seemed to be satisfied with my getting shot at since I received medals and honourable discharges from each.

And sometimes dual citizenship cannot be helped even if not desired. When I was serving in the US Army in Europe we were allowed to go on leave to Tito's Yugoslavia, the only communist country we were permitted to visit UNLESS we were of Yugoslav descent (even partial and several generations back) because under Yugoslav law we were still Yugoslav citizens and could be held for military service!

And the United States is one of very few countries where citizenship is automatic upon birth on US soil, which is why there are cases of pregnant women chaining themselves to the American side of border fences for delivery: to ensure that the kid is American. No so in most other countries. My son was born in Switzerland, but he is not Swiss, but Canadian/American.

Sorry for the diversion, but that needed clairification.

Back to the topic, I agree with Cal. Lieberman is a nut case and needs to be institutionalized in a mental ward, not that the United States Senate isn't one.
 

Kit B (276)
Friday July 2, 2010, 6:25 am



Who really pays attention to Lieberman anyway? A near doddering old fool that can't decide where he stands other then the money men who feed him his opinions.

I think like NASCAR drivers all of Congress should be required to wear suits displaying all of their "sponsors" Might just wake up all the wagging tongues that think ANYONE in politics is not corrupt.




 

James F (5)
Friday July 2, 2010, 7:54 am
Surely the whole basis of the World Wide Web is that it is resilient? Declaring it a National Asset doesn't mean it can be shut down other than in the US and its dependencies.
America Off-Line. lol
 

SuS NoMail Plez P (244)
Friday July 2, 2010, 7:55 am
Sweet Kit~ so pleased you responded!!! I LOVE your entire last paragraph. Seems I heard that from someone on the news receintly! WINK!!! I hope to have energy to come back tomorrow to see all the wisdom that is yet to come! Good night all.
 

H Nick H (1826)
Friday July 2, 2010, 8:54 am
I have come to hate Liberman more and more. He is 2 faced. As the Indians say, "he speaks with forked tongue" (might have been movie Indians :) ). He needs to be stopped. He is just another republican, who pretends he actually cares about people and other enviornmental causes.
 

SuS NoMail Plez P (244)
Friday July 2, 2010, 9:17 am
"You cannot currently send a star to Nick as you have done so within the last week NONSENSE.
YUP~ I have a special nickname for him, Re- PUKE- la- CON.
 

Craig Zimmerman (86)
Friday July 2, 2010, 12:58 pm
I don't think anyone in congress should be allowed to have dual citizenship. There is too much of a chance of conflicting loyalties. As we see with Sen. Lieberman
 

MarieAnne Duhem (93)
Friday July 2, 2010, 1:01 pm
Interesting! The USA worse off than China... LOL
I agree with Kit re the politician uniform but then it should be worldwide and made of a fabric that changes colors when they lie... ! (One can dream, no?)
 

Marilyn K (50)
Friday July 2, 2010, 1:44 pm
Joe Lieberman is just being a "Republican".
 

(0)
Friday July 2, 2010, 1:58 pm
Lieberman doesn't know if he's a democrat or a republican....and probably doesn't know which country his allegiance belongs to either.
I think he's just stupid enough to be very dangerous.
 

linda b (186)
Friday July 2, 2010, 2:16 pm
Noted Thanks Dave.
 

Cary Mostly-Away (94)
Friday July 2, 2010, 3:36 pm
Cybersecurity Measures Will Mandate Government “ID Tokens” To Use The Internet

The move to shut down and regulate the Internet under a new government-controlled system has accelerated into high gear with the announcement that the government’s cybersecurity strategy revolves around issuing Internet users with ID “tokens” without which they will not be able to visit websites, the latest salvo against web freedom which, in combination with Senator Joe Lieberman’s ‘kill switch’ bill, will serve to eviscerate the free Internet as we know it.

Under the guise of “cybersecurity,” the government is moving to discredit and shut down the existing Internet infrastructure in the pursuit of a new, centralized, regulated world wide web.

It is important to stress that “cybersecurity” has nothing to do with protecting the infrastructure of the United States and everything to do with taking over the Internet. Cybersecurity is about attacking non-compliant Internet users, not defending against hackers. Non-compliance equates as using the Internet as a political tool to dissent against the policies of the U.S. government. Having already tried and failed in flooding the web with paid disinformation agents, the government is now turning to its only recourse, exploiting hyped or outright staged cyberattacks as an excuse through which to implement an Internet 2 system controlled and regulated solely by the authorities.

We are constantly told that the Internet needs to be subject to government control because cyberterrorists could hack in and bring down the national power grid. However, the vast majority of the U.S. power infrastructure is not connected to the Internet. It will only be connected to the Internet if the government accelerates the implementation of “smart grid” technology, so in this sense, the government itself is leaving the power grid more vulnerable to hackers by its own programs.

Threats against computer networks in the United States are grossly exaggerated. Dire reports issued by the Defense Science Board and the Center for Strategic and International Studies “are usually richer in vivid metaphor — with fears of ‘digital Pearl Harbors’ and ‘cyber-Katrinas’ — than in factual foundation......
....... http://www.prisonplanet.com/cybersecurity-measures-will-mandate-government-id-tokens-to-use-the-internet.html
 

JOHNLEWIS HODDINOTT (77)
Friday July 2, 2010, 4:59 pm
NOTED THANKS :)

SHALOM.
 

Aletta Kraan (146)
Friday July 2, 2010, 7:08 pm
Noted , thank you !!!
 

(0)
Friday July 2, 2010, 7:13 pm
My comment is "What a nut job", how do these people even get elected?????
 

Teresa K (33)
Friday July 2, 2010, 7:59 pm
Noted and thanks.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday July 2, 2010, 8:06 pm
noted, thx
 

Tom W (24)
Friday July 2, 2010, 8:18 pm
What is this Israeli planted spy doing as a Senator ??
He admits he cannot maintain his Senatorial duties being a Jew from Sundown Friday until Sunday.
Emergencies can go to hell - Judaism comes first - JUST Where is this separation of church and state ????
What a waste of tax payers money
 

Deborah O (98)
Friday July 2, 2010, 8:34 pm
You know, Tom, in a real emergency I would probably be glad if Lieberman wasn't there. As he is so firmly entrenched in office, I comfort myself that perhaps having him around may prevent young senators from voting badly: "Hell, no, Bill--I can't support that. Crazy Joe Lieberman's pushing that one. If I start voting like Lieberman, I could end up like that--crazy as a bedbug and with all the credibility of bathroom graffiti."
 

(0)
Friday July 2, 2010, 8:37 pm
Well said Deborah!
 

Riyaz R (45)
Friday July 2, 2010, 10:17 pm
How pathetic on part of Mr.Joseph Lieberman to ban/kill the Internet,Had he forgotten the lesson on "freedom of speech & Expression".If it is 'Drill Baby Drill for Oil companies',then It should be 'Cry Baby Cry' for the haters of Internet including Mr. Joseph
 

Jo Hofreiter (20)
Friday July 2, 2010, 11:54 pm
No way! We must keep the Internet going between us and Isreal. How else can they really know what's going on outside their country.

Senator Lieberman it's time to retire!

JO
 

Michael Masley (4)
Saturday July 3, 2010, 12:04 am
Wow!
 

Thomas D (12)
Saturday July 3, 2010, 1:29 am
Note. Thanks
 

Marty H (119)
Saturday July 3, 2010, 2:32 am
Wow, lots of stars given today and to several that are usually on the opposite side I take, lol! Thanks! I do have to agree as far as an elected official goes, they should NOT have dual citizenship because they may be too tempted to take the side of another country. Unfortunately, we have seen humans do NOT handle temptation/money too well, especially concerning politics. So many of our elected officials are bought and paid for by corporations. What bothers me most is, where are their consciences? Does taking an oath to protect us from enemies foreign and domestic have no value at all anymore? How can they honestly justify siding with anyone but the people that elected them and that they work for? It just amazes me what scum we do have working for us anymore!
 

Myke Salmon (324)
Saturday July 3, 2010, 2:45 am
Interesting - very interesting
 

nobo dy (24)
Saturday July 3, 2010, 4:34 am
thanks
 

Sharon Balloch (127)
Saturday July 3, 2010, 5:54 am
Oh Joe say it aint so... I think its you thats got to go..
 

Lionel Mann (23)
Saturday July 3, 2010, 9:23 am
Lindsey DTSW,
Your comment raises a side issue that needs response.
In 1979 the Iranians booted out the Shah, an Anglo-American puppet, under whose regime Britain and the U.S.A. ruthlessly milked the resources of that country. The U.S.A. through the Teheran Embassy Hostage Crisis suffered a serious diplomatic and economic defeat and was unable to respond militarily because of the Cold War and fear of the proximity of the Soviet Union. However it persuaded Iraq under old pal Sadaam Hussein to attack Iran, a conflict that ended inconclusively, although the U.S. supplied Iraq with WMD. Sadaam proved an embarrassment and was cynically disposed of. (Who needs enemies when you have the U.S.A. as a friend?) Once Russia posed less of a threat, the nations either side of Iran were subjected to vicious, brutal, unprovoked attack, upon the flimsiest of pretences, indiscriminately slaughtering thousands of civilians, establishing bases in preparation for finding an excuse to launch an attack upon Iran itself, currently being preceded by a diplomatic offensive. Exposed to such danger can Iran be blamed for supporting a strong Republican Guard, enforcing strict social discipline and possibly for trying to possess a nuclear deterrent?
 

Patricia Herrick (54)
Saturday July 3, 2010, 9:28 am
Maybe the headline should read 'Israel using Lieberman to destroy the internet.'
 

. (0)
Saturday July 3, 2010, 9:31 am
Lionel, nations do what they believe is in their own best interests. Which, of course, doesn't always coincide with the best interests of anyone else. I'm sure that the leadership of Iran is quite convinced of the rightness of its own actions and attitudes when it comes to looking out for the best interests of that nation in one way or another.

And when other nations feel the threat of Iranian actions, they will do exactly what Iran is doing - they will look out for their own interests.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday July 3, 2010, 10:32 am
One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.

(Who needs enemies when you have the U.S.A. as a friend?) - Good one Lionel! Bush, an uneducated, illiterate and militant Christian stated the same in his infamous: "you're either with us or against us.."

So nations' independence is unacceptable! Unless "we" approve..

We can thank a Congress that is terrorized by AIPAC and its "militant" anit-American interests. This is why this Congress continues to suck-up to a Zionist agenda and serve the interests of foreign militant and terrorist powers; namely, Israel!

ATW
 

Kit B (276)
Saturday July 3, 2010, 11:36 am
Does anyone remember the Weinberg Doctrine? We should remember the one good thing to come out of the Reagan administration, stay out of others business unless or until it causes harm for the US, enter a war with the single purpose of winning, have a full and functional exit strategy. Simple rules but so quickly left aside. Neither Korea or Vietnam taught us anything, so now we had two useless win less wars, with no clear exit strategy but troops and civilians dying. Lieberman like most in Congress often lets his mouth overload his brain, but the voter seems to vote NOT for brains but for name recognition. Want to bet that in spite of his comments of apology to BP Joe Barton will be re-elected?
 

Lois K (24)
Saturday July 3, 2010, 2:34 pm
Why is the whole world required to revolve around Israel? Lieberman, like so many other religious nutbags, obviously believes that this artificially-created state somehow fulfills some stupid "prophecy" from the Bible, and now the rest of the world must bow down to their every little whim and desire. I think it's time we withdrew all aid from Israel and see how well they stand up on their own.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday July 3, 2010, 4:06 pm
Lois,

Well said.

We can use the $30 billion in "Aid" here, in the U.S.

ATW
 

Abo r (107)
Saturday July 3, 2010, 11:48 pm
Noted thanks.
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Sunday July 4, 2010, 11:41 pm
No Lois - not a good idea. What would happen in the middle east if Israel was not longer a part of it? You can't really think things would be all warm, fuzzy and cosy - really?
 

Les Lambert (185)
Tuesday July 6, 2010, 2:30 pm
Lois--thank you, I have long felt that Israel and its goals and demands were a big part of the mideast "problem". It looks like we can easily add the likes of Mr. Lieberman to that list of "problem".
 

pete O (242)
Sunday July 11, 2010, 8:17 am
well if they do - we will get pigeons
 

Niki F (10)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 12:36 pm
While I am no fan of Lieberman, this so called article is nothing but propaganda fueled by ignorant rubbish.

And for the record Hamas and Hezbollah ARE terrorists.
 
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