It's not only wild animals he slaughters Marilyn! There was an article some weeks ago in the Sueddeutsche Zeitung (a serious newspaper in Germany) writing about a private incident that has happened in Zuckerberg's house: a friend describes the situation that Zuckerberg had invited people and served the meat of a goat he has killed while the friends were present! He shot the goat, cooked it and served it. The friend describing this incident said he couldn't eat any of the meat, he only ate salade.
I mentioned it already in another topic but can't remember which one it was.
Zuckerberg is lower than low, he is a coldhearted animal killer. He totally disgusts me
The man is a schmuck.
I am disgusted and horrified with Zuckerberg, although I am sure Kate, that the video is no surprise for you!!
I personally just use FB to post petitions. However I find this sadism of killing wild animals on the part of Zuckerberg a wicked example if not worse to the community of FB.
Many younger people will feel encouraged to slaughter wild animals from now on!!
Thank you Shanta for this article!!
Dear Monika , his being an ally to Trump denotes his true character. We shouldn't expect any benevolence from him
What an ugly character Zuckerberg is! No wonder he blocks animal rescuers on FB. Especially those who try to save dogs and cats from kill shelters (also from gas chambers) have a hard life on FB. He could do so much good for animals instead he choses to eat them and to promote killing and hunting. He is a disgusting piece of sh**
Thanks for posting dear Shanta
Although this is not on PETA but this is from a more effective felon Mark Zukerberg . For those who can't see it in the FB I am posting the article
http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2F%7E%2Farticle-3833109%2Findex.html&h=AT2bBSc_VzC8fCZV9PHJ9l0MFvDR0Mi7sQygTHmHm2ZuINQIUreU9KZsQUjI1y_Whe1hMPLc6cs8vbAqCMyNpHJ5aj5DUECntz_VyMRw0VgztPwvQur3R42oPoZOWHMFPygiNpZ5jA6OtQ&s=1Mark Zuckerberg reveals his love of hunting: Facebook CEO says animals taste better when you've killed them yourself in Facebook live video of his debate cook out
- Mark Zuckerberg live streamed from his Palo Alto backyard on Sunday
- Told viewers he was smoking a brisket and ribs to enjoy with the debate
- Facebook founder says he enjoys grilling, hunting and racing as well
- The billionaire said hunting is a good way to 'feel connected to nature'
Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg says animals taste better when you’ve hunted them yourself.
Zuckerberg revealed his love for hunting and showed off his grilling prowess in a Facebook Live video ahead of the presidential debate on Sunday night.
The billionaire told his viewers he was smoking a brisket and some ribs for friends who were coming over to watch the debate with him.
Sat in his Palo Alto backyard in front of a Big Green Egg cooker he called ‘The General’ and another grill, he interacted with his audience for just over half an hour.
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Mark Zuckerberg's wife Priscilla and baby daughter Max made a cameo in the Facebook live video on Sunday, in which he said animals taste better when you've hunted them yourself
Quite a lot of people posted on their FB page and the response was very disappointing considering they say they were the main campaigners about the two chimps and the elephants. GAP say that the two chimps never go out apparently because they spent so many long years indoors. Obviously Lawrenz and his staff do not make efforts to persuade them either. Shared enclosures just don't work because you need to be able to leave the door open for them to quietly investigate without pressure.
Yes Jan, I was wondering, too!! Only one posting after the first video of Bili's abuse went viral and afterwards : NONE!
A nice graph indeed for such a chest thumping animal activist org .
They have been strangely silent over the Bili situation too.
It is mind boggling as to how they can do so much good and yet so much harm.
German article. please use translator
“Kill Don’t Adopt!”
PETA USA, shelter Norfolk
Killing numbers 2018: PETA has again killed many animals
Todeszahlen 2018: PETA hat wieder viele Tiere getötet
Data of the PETA shelter published by public authority:
a killing rate of 71% and an adoption rate of 1,4% only.
Die Zahlen des PETA-Tierheims wurden von der zuständigen Behörde veröffentlicht: Eine Tötungsrate von rund 71% steht einer Adoptionsrate rund 1,4% gegenüber.
red line: killed
They make themselves sound like Snow White!!
Thank you dear Jan!
PETA versus Nathan WinogradNathan Winograd: ‘No-Kill’ or No Clue?
Bringing back for Marilyn - when you get a chance to get back on here. It is 11 months since we posted anything on here!!
Does anyone else find that PETA spending donors' money on that massive lawsuit against the photographer where the monkey took a 'selfie' is utterly disgraceful?Clearly they find that more important than spending money on animals.
They need to keep out of the animal shelter world and stick to campaigning or else their hypocracy will harm the whole animal rights cause.
I can't believe this about PETA!!!!
Nathan J Winograd
You can help stop PETA from rounding up and killing animals
PETA has called dogs “worthless” and claimed that — like an old toaster — they have no value beyond the cost of replacement. They’ve claimed that stealing and killing animals is not “outrageous.” And they have called killing “a gift.”
You can find out more about PETA’s killing by clicking here.
Now, the agency tasked with enforcement — the Virginia Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services — is finalizing regulations to define "operated for the purpose of finding permanent adoptive homes." VDACS currently licenses "private animal shelters" in Virginia with no requirement that they even try to find homes for animals. According to VDACS, a "private shelter" in Virginia can kill virtually every animal it takes in. It doesn’t have to have adoption hours, It doesn’t have to promote animals for adoptions. It doesn’t even have to allow adoptions.
PETA is no doubt hard at work to keep it that way.
The Virginia Federation of Humane Societies warns that “VDACS needs to hear that citizens want regulations which ensure that private animal shelters are indeed a safe haven for homeless animals, that animals leave those shelters alive and there are no loopholes in the regulations (such as transferring animals to another facility where the animals are killed) to allow any facility to be called a "private animal shelter" but kill the majority of animals it takes in.”
Comments must be sent by Nov. 16 to: Carolynn.Bissett@vdacs.virginia.gov and firstname.lastname@example.org (please send to both)
Here are some of their suggestions:
- VDACS should terminate the private shelter status of any organization which kills more than 50% of the animals it takes in.
- Legislators, citizens and donors expect private animal shelters to be a safe haven for homeless pets and VDACS should ensure that is the case.
I would add a few more:
- Private shelters should be required to promote animals for adoption and have minimum and set adoption hours when they are open to the public for adoption, including evening and weekend hours.
- They should be required to work with public shelters and rescue groups to get animals adopted and it should be illegal for them to kill those animals if other shelters and rescue groups are willing to save them. This would allow rescue groups the legal authority to rescue animals PETA intends to kill.
- They should be required to post found and surrendered animals to the internet to allow people to see them 24/7 from any smartphone or computer. This common sense requirement would not only allow people searching for lost animals to locate them, but it would also allow local groups information necessary to monitor the animals PETA impounds.
- Private animal shelters should provide prompt and necessary veterinary care, nutritious food, fresh water, exercise, and environmental enrichment.
PETA JOINS COALITION TO BAN PIT BULLS?!
PEOPLE FOR THE ETHICAL TREATMENT OF ANIMALS (PETA) HAS REPORTEDLY BECOME A MEMBER OF AN ANTI-PIT BULL COALITION. THE STATED MISSION OF THE COALITION IS TO ADVOCATE FOR A GOVERNMENT BAN ON PIT BULLS.
If you are a member of PETA please let them know how you feel!!!
Yes Jan, they're all not above criticism, I know. We Need them to help with awareness, but that doesn't mean we have to like everything they do. What I do like about IFAW is that if I have a question regarding an urgent Problem, like a zoo that's not getting feed, they always ring back and try to get Information to me. Possibly, however, that's all they do. How can we be really sure?
Animals Asia are great and deserve all the help they can get.
I agree with you about PETA but IFAW also do not answer 'tricky' letters. When I (and others) wrote and asked why they felt it necessary to spend the entire 10 million dollar inheritance they received some years ago on a new headquarters in a very expensive area they did not answer.
I have been writing Long letters to PETA UK, PETA Germany and PETA USA. PETA USA don't even bother to answer and the other two come up with excuses and explanations of why it is better to euthanise These perfectly healthy Dogs. I say euthanise is the wrong word. An animal is euthanised if it is terminally ill and suffering, no way can a healthy animal be euthanised. It is simply and utterly killed because someone doesn't want to be bothered with it.
The letters I get in answer to my criticism are Long, windy and theres nothing in them that even makes sense.
I know we Need organisations like PETA (although I prefer 4Paws, IFAW, Animals asia etc. - and they're the ones who will be inheriting my residue). We Need them to bring awareness of Things we would otherwise not know about. But that doesn't stop me from writing them nasty letters about their politics on murdering healthy Dogs and cats. And to boot, they murder them far too quickly. Countless the cases recently of animals being killed although their owner was on the way to collect them. Very often the shelters even knew that someone was coming.
The People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) found itself in the crosshairs of pit bull lovers. Their decision to join a coalition calling for a nationwide ban of pit bulls doesn’t seem to be ethical treatment, does it? In fact, PETA tried to explain it away after the negative backlash, but comes across as even more sinister.
PETA is an animal rights organization, rejecting any assumption of human superiority and the using of animals for human benefit. The organization defines the use and abuse of animals as for food, clothing, entertainment, or as research subjects. Therefore, PETA is not only against things like cock fighting, dog fighting, and bullfighting, but is also against eating meat, fishing, and pest control.
So, to be very clear, in PETA’s worldview, all animals are victims of human oppression, abuse, and exploitation. There is very little gray area here. We are not talking just the inhumane practices of a few. Even the benign treatment of animals is wrong, in their opinion, if that behavior is ultimately for human benefit. This is important to understand in order to realize how bizarre and inconsistent PETA’s position is on pit bulls.
I want to know why Peta took the little chi in the first place. What gave them the right to trespass on this property and take the little dog? And why would they kill him when he was perfectly healthy and it wasn't even their right to have him in the first place?
PETA To Be Sued for Theft and Murder of a FamilyâEUR(TM)s Dog
Patricia - 1 hour ago - lifewithdogs.tv
I gave up reading the comments. The average pitbull undoubtedly has more brain cells in one toenail than many of the idiots on there.
PETA & Pit Bulls
People against PETA
Link to other Peta Info -i am having a sort out of files and don't want to lose it.
Good decision Monika.
4 Paws is a reliable organization and very transparent.
I agree with you Jan. Peta's arrogant vegan preaching is contra productive.
There are a lot of other ways to let people make their own decision to stop eating meal.
Or life it-selves.
Every day I bring my volunteers to their bus , every day we met a big transport with hundreds of chickens who are going to the slaughterhouse.
It is so intense sad. They are puled up like potatoes.
I only say , "they are tomorrow in the stores and tomorrow evening on the dinner-tables."
Seeing it every day , it makes a deep impact and they start to think about their food and then we talk about it and I tell them more.
It's a start and an planted seed. And they can never ignore that they know about all the misery in farming factory.
Couldn't agree more with the Position against PETA. I know they bring a certain amount of awareness regarding cruelty to animals but at the same time their stand regarding the "so-called" euthanisation of totally healthy animals simply sucks. a) Euthanisation is something one does FOR very (terminally) ill animals to save them more suffering and b) They can't even really explain to me why they advocate it. I've written to PETA here and in Great Britain and the answers I get are useless (to put it mildly). I have therefore changed my will, which originally left one third of my residue to PETA and the other two-thirds to Animals Asia and IFAW, but PETA are out. I've changed their share to Four Paws.
Thank you Monika. They do little for the cause when they behave like hypocrites. Their arrogant vegan preaching on one hand whilst killing stray and homeless animals makes me sick. No one could be more rabid about not using animal products than me but there is something about the way it is presented by them that makes me refuse to call myself a vegan. I will always describe myself as a vegetarian because of that and people can make what they like of it. I wonder how many 'vegans' realise that wine is not vegetarian? There are 'v' wines available which is what I drink.
Sorry about the rant Monika!!! I no longer comment in one group because someone on there asked me if I had considered becoming a vegan,just because I said something about not eating meat. Lectures about my lifestyle I do not need or ask for and assumptions made in that preaching way make my blood boil. You know my feelings about using ANY animal products - ZERO use, as do all my real friends know.
Just re-read this - feel free to laugh Monika and Lenicka!!!
PETA Joins Hunters in New York to Declare Open Season on Cats
PETA has once again shown its true colors, this time aligning itself with a hunting organization in order to promote the round up and killing of community cats. As New York State legislators this week were debating whether to provide funding for sterilizing “feral” cats in lieu of killing, two groups came out in opposition: the New York Sportsmen’s Advisory Council and PETA: http://goo.gl/8dWZbD One wants to hunt down and kill animals and PETA, well, they also want to hunt down and kill animals. The only difference is one shoots; the other injects with poison.
Since its inception, PETA has advocated for the round up and killing of homeless cats. In 1995, for example, over the objections of cat lovers pushing for a sterilization program, the Mayor of Miami Beach pushed a plan to trap and kill cats. PETA sent a letter to the Mayor applauding his decision: http://goo.gl/CT4qpr The Mayor, however, had also decided that kittens would be turned over to a rescue group for socialization and adoption. But PETA took issue with this part of the plan, arguing that all the cats, including the kittens, should be taken to animal control and “euthanized by sodium pentobarbital injection.”
More recently, the Pima County, AZ, Board of Supervisors were voting last year on whether or not to reduce the killing of “feral” cats by implementing TNR at the shelter. As the local news reported, “Saving thousands of cats from being euthanized every year sounds like a good idea, but a well-known animal rights group is completely against it.” PETA told legislators that the cats were better dead then fed and urged them to continue rounding up and killing them: http://goo.gl/APTtLZ
When they are not advocating that community cats should be killed, they are killing them themselves. In 2014, PETA took in 1,605 cats at its Virginia headquarters and killed 1,536 (a kill rate of 96%). They transferred another 43 to kill shelters where they were either killed or displaced others who were killed. That would put the cat kill rate as high as 98%. They found homes for only 16, an adoption rate of 1%: http://goo.gl/LLKZe8
Thankfully, New York legislators ignored PETA. They voted 188 to 11 to pass the bill and send it to the Governor. Pima Supervisors also ignored PETA, embracing sterilization in lieu of killing. As to PETA killing animals themselves? Virginia lawmakers voted 130 to 3 (over PETA's objections) to require private shelters, which PETA claims to be, to work to find homes for cats: http://goo.gl/I3D1yM
Please note: I do not criticize PETA because of what they are thought to stand for (animal rights), but because of what they actually do stand for (animal killing). I criticize them because they “do not advocate right to life for animals” (as Ingrid Newkirk herself has written: http://goo.gl/563Tpn), because they kill over 90% of the animals they take in, including healthy puppies and kittens: http://goo.gl/LLKZe8, and because they also advocate that they be killed by others: http://goo.gl/4rcyA4
In the early 1990s, I was living in Wheaton, Maryland, a stone’s throw from PETA headquarters, before they relocated to Norfolk, Virginia. Because I love animals, am vegan, and did not want to see them killed, exploited, or abused, I became a PETA volunteer. And then one day, my roommate, a former PETA employee, found a dog in need of a home. We called him Ray. I asked her why we didn’t just take Ray to PETA. Surely, PETA, with its millions of dollars and millions of animal loving members, would find him a home. But she said no, that was a very bad idea, because PETA would just kill him: http://goo.gl/jmgMKa That is when I did what anyone who truly loves animals would have done, I walked away from them. It is what another PETA intern also did when he saw puppies and kittens in the kill room. He quit in disgust.
Learn more: www.whypetaeuthanizes.org
Learn why: http://goo.gl/3ZDEHu
This says it all.
Hehe, Justin Bieber for animals,what a joke!!!
With this statement PETA shows that the organisation is not reliable !
How stupid can an organization be ????
Justin Biber as a promotion celebrity of Peta?
When it comes to ranking PETA’s most hypocritical celebrities, we “belieb” Justin Bieber takes the cake. Bieber has been photographed at a zoo, and he is certainly no vegan. Bieber was recently sighted having a steak dinner and eating seafood.
But here’s where Bieber really stands out as a hypocrite—Justin Bieber declared “Air France sucks” at an event protesting the airline’s shipment of monkeys. Meanwhile, the pop star once ditched a pet monkey in Germany. Bieber’s pet monkey was seized when the singer flew into the Munich airport without the required documentation.
The singer was given a chance to gather the paperwork necessary to reclaim his pet, but failed to do so.
Justin Bieber took a shot at Air France, but flew around in an airplane with a monkey of his own.
What a classic case of PETA celebrity hypocrisy.
The singer Ke$ha has actively promoted PETA’s anti-fur agenda, but she is certainly not above wearing animal products. Kesha has worn leather to numerous public events and even was caught bringing illegal ivory into the country. Someone should remind her that PETA’s extreme stance includes fur, wool, silk, and leather.
( I admit , I never heard from Ke$ha and I know Biber only from his animal scandals).
Why they do not stick to campaigning is a complete mystery to me. They should stay out of 'Shelter' programmes and stop killing animals. They are doing no good for the causes they purport to spearhead.
NORFOLK, Va. — Prudence the bunny nibbles on organic greens, listens to classical music and hops about on soft blankets in a sweet-smelling space larger than many college dorm rooms.
She shares her “guest room” with no other animal, though staff at the headquarters of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, working in the adjacent office, visit frequently to cuddle her.
Here on the banks of the St. Elizabeth River, you could say PETA runs the Waldorf Astoria of animal shelters.
But that same facility also euthanized more than 80 percent of the animals in its care last year, a rate so shockingly high that Virginia lawmakers passed a bill in February — nearly unanimously — to define a private animal shelter as a place where the primary mission is to find permanent homes for animals in this life, not send them on to the next.
The bill, its sponsor made clear, is designed to protect animals and rein in PETA.
PETA? The group that doesn’t want you to eat turkey at Thanksgiving — or any animal ever? The same PETA that wants to free circus animals and pushed the Vatican to “give peas a chance” by going vegan and to strip the leather seats out of the popemobile?
“It’s sanctimonious to say they are lovers of animals,” said Republican state Sen. William M. Stanley Jr., the lead sponsor of the bill, who has never been to the PETA shelter but said it’s clear it doesn’t do much sheltering. “It’s a way station of death, and it’s a shame.”
Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe has until March 29 to sign or veto the bill — or send it back to be amended.
Daphna Nachminovitch, PETA’s senior vice president and head of its cruelty investigations unit, does not dispute that the vast majority of the thousands of animals in PETA custody each year are euthanized.
In 2014, according to its own records, it took in 3,017 animals, about 1 percent of the total number brought to private Virginia shelters. Of those, PETA euthanized 2,455, or 81 percent. In some prior years, that rate has risen above 90 percent.
Stanley, the sponsor of the bill that could make it difficult for PETA to continue to run its shelter, has used the Chihuahua’s death to question the organization’s motives. He also talks about the four dogs he adopted, some with serious health problems, and wonders — most recently in an op-ed in a major Virginia newspaper — whether PETA understands that even sick and old animals deserve a chance to live.
The truth will always out in the end. Hypocracy will be uncovered. Some people wear blinkers where some of the large organisations are concerned.
PETA: Why We Euthanize
Peta always publish ( the same ) pictures of very ill pets to show why they kill.
But they never shows the pictures of the healty pets they kill.
I have seen also cats like on their peicture.
After cleaning and treatment , the cats have lived a few wonderful years in my sanctuary.
Peta do not invest in treatment !! It's against their believe and too expensive !!! ( Their own words.)
PETA tells Maryland legislators NOT to save cats
These are some of the community cats of Maryland: http://bit.ly/12k1I4r They are healthy and happy and watched over by dedicated caretakers. Studies show that community cats have A+ grades across a wide range of physical characteristics, live as long as indoor cats, and are thriving. A House committee in Maryland will take up legislation today to further protect them by making it illegal for shelters to kill them if they are part of a managed colony. The committee will also consider making it illegal for shelters to kill animals if qualified rescue groups are willing to save them and put an end to convenience killing: killing when there are empty cages and kennels in the shelter.
But one group is trying to kill the bill. One group is arguing that every one of those cats should be dead. One group is saying those cats pose a threat to humans and could kill them. One group is claiming that those who sterilize and rerelease cats are guilty of criminal abandonment, even when the cats are “feral” (unsocial with humans), would otherwise be killed in shelters, would prefer not to live in a human home, and are provided food, water, and needed medical care by volunteers. One group is even suggesting that those who do TNR should be arrested and jailed. What group is that? PETA.
Not content to steal and kill dogs (http://bit.ly/16pRzoz), not content to kill 96% of cats they seek out (http://bit.ly/1B6DpEf), not content defending abusive shelters who neglect and abuse cats (http://huff.to/XZQ0n6), not content arguing that feral cats are better dead than fed in other states (http://bit.ly/1Eux7Sm), the Butcher of Norfolk (http://bit.ly/1B1BlhT) and her henchmen have written the House committee asking them not to pass the Maryland Companion Animal Protection Act when they consider the bill at 1 pm today.
The bill is here: http://on.fb.me/1wUZFNp
PETA’s letter of opposition is here: http://bit.ly/1El1sl3
Before you defend PETA (and I am talking to an infinitely small minority here), before you say “they do so much good,” consider this: if a slaughterhouse owner donated a percentage of his profits to a vegan advocacy organization or a dog fighter donated some of his winnings to a rescue group, would the killing and cruelty they inflict upon animals be rendered acceptable, the harm being cancelled out by the good? Though an obvious absurdity, that is what you would be arguing here. If you are one of those people, spend five minutes in a dark room thinking and ask yourself: "How much killing is acceptable to me?" "How many deaths am I willing to allow PETA before I draw the line?" Since the 31,250 they killed in the last 12 years, including healthy kittens and puppies, isn't enough (http://bit.ly/1FX2O47), is it 100,000? 1,000,000? How many? I’ll start: zero. First, do no harm.
UPDATE: There was no vote today. It was put over to a subcommittee. I'll continue to keep people posted. In the meantime,
if you live in Maryland, we need your help overcoming the opposition:
1. Use this form to contact members of the committee hearing the bill to urge a "Yes" vote: http://bit.ly/1DZqypq
2. Please contact your local legislator and ask them to sponsor and vote "Yes" on HB0876: http://mdelect.net/
If you live outside of Maryland, please share this with those who do.
'PETA wants these cats dead: http://bit.ly/1El1sl3 Learn more: www.whyPETAkills.org'
4 years ago , Monika , R.C. and I were paria's on Care2 when we convicts Peta because their believe that people should not have pets and therefor killed 98% of all the animals in their so called shelters.
But slowly the truth begins to break through, more and more.
Thanks Monika and Lenicka
Article below is a MUST READ!!
PETA kills thousands of cats and dogs every year. Please read this article in the Huffington Post and share it with many friends, network it and twit it. People should be warned never to hand over their companions to this organization. Thank you.
Signed , thank you Monika.
The text of this opetition is so strong and clear that I like to post it here.
"PETA, one of the largest animal rights groups in the world, is constantly slamming other organizations for their treatment of animals. However, it was recently reported that one of PETA’s animal shelters located in Norfolk, Virginia euthanized around 84 percent of its cats and 68 percent of its dogs.
It doesn’t seem logical that a group dedicated to the fair treatment of animals is committing mass murder of animals it’s supposed to protect and find homes for.
The majority of these pets were brought in voluntarily by owners who probably had no idea there was such a high chance that their poor animal would be killed rather than found a new home with someone who could care for it.
PETA makes millions of dollars from donors and merchandise sales, so much that the organization actually still had a budget surplus after expenses last year.
So this certainly leaves a question of why it was necessary to execute over 2,000 shelter animals at one shelter alone. The Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services reported the statewide euthanasia rates for shelter and rescue groups as 38.5 percent for cats and 17.5 percent for dogs, far below the percentages of the PETA shelter.
Most of these shelters, if any, do not have the kind of budget that PETA does, so murdering these animals is inexcusable.
PETA President Ingrid Newkirk claims euthanizing is necessary and says the blame is not on the organization, but on the owners who abandon their pets.
This claim is completely invalid seeing that other shelters are not having the same issue as a million-dollar company like PETA. Demand Newkirk and PETA be held accountable for their sickening actions and demand PETA behave like an animal rights organization should."
I shared the good news dear Lenicka!
'Demand PETA Stop Euthanizing Shelter Animals
A PETA animal shelter euthanized the majority of its dogs and cats last year, despite having a budget surplus. Demand PETA uphold its animal rights values and stop euthanizing its shelter animals.
By Douglas Anthony Cooper
Bill to Prevent PETA From Killing Dogs and Cats Passes in the Virginia Senate, 33-5
The Virginia Senate has passed a bill aimed at preventing PETA from killing dogs and cats at their headquarters in Norfolk.
PETA nominally operates a "shelter" in Virginia, which has killed well over 30,000 animals.
As I reported yesterday, in 2014, PETA slaughtered over 88% of the dogs and cats taken in. A number of years have seen PETA's kill rate as high as 97%. The VA Senate has been weighing measures to stem this madness.
Senate Bill 1381 was voted on today, with 33 in favor, and 5 opposed. Should this bill pass in the House, section 3.2-6500 of the Code of Virginia will be amended to include language further defining a private animal shelter.
A "shelter" will no longer be able to summarily kill the vast majority of animals taken in, because that term will designate: "a facility operated for the purpose of finding permanent adoptive homes and facilitating other lifesaving outcomes for animals."
It is a good day for animals.
I hope the House will be so wise also !!
PETA Is Not on Board With New Ordinance to Give Strays More Time to Be Rescued
Kelly - 8 hours ago - examiner.com
Hmm if they go to rodeos its not okay....perhaps this is the reason why the petitioner doesn't mention the name...
Thanks for the research Jan!
Googled and eventually found what appears to be the business in question. The Giddy Up Ranch and from the photographs the animals all appear to be well cared for and it is good for children to see them and interact with them. There are far more important things for PETA to be addressing than an organisation like this. I do feel though that the name of the organisation should be mentioned by the petitioner so peope would know what they are signing for, because if this is the one it is far from small.
Giddy up ranch pony rides/zoo FB page says they go to rodeos as well.
The petition really should say who they are because I could be completely wrong. The twitter site has the petition posted @giddyupponyzoo
Not a proper target but I signed
'Please help stop Brenda Calvillo and other peta members from trying to ban our animals from HB
Me too. Agree Monika, Lenicka has posted a really good comment.
Great comment dear Lenicka !!!
I totally agree !!
Watchdog Fail: PETA Killed Nearly 2,000 Shelter Animals in 2013 - Report
Ray - 7 hours ago - rt.com
Signed with whole my hart.
An answer to Michael .(Above)
In the more then 50 years that I'm fighting against high kill in shelters - in the beginning with a vet from a official shelter because he refused to kill healthy animals - I got a lot of different names for what I do.
Evangelist is my last trophy. First we were heroes , we saved a lot of the animal that were on the death list. When Peta showed up , I was very interested.
A vegan club that stands for animal rights. That sounded like music in my ears.
But than I read their statements ( I think a lot of Peta believers forget to do that) and I absolutely did not like what I read about pets. The end of their wishes how the world should be , is a world without cats and dog pets.
Why does every Pate believer , or, do not read that , or ignore that.
I don't know.
What I wrote here on Care2 about Peta , it must be a whole archive.
I can say , I'm well informed , mainly because their own information.
It's not possible to repeat all that here again. But it's a dossier full with lies and manipulations by Peta. And all documented. And I think I do not have a half of all the documentation that exist.
Peta has one 'weapon' which they try to convinces people that they only kill sick animals. See the picture above from Michael.
They have a lot of pictures such as that. All animals , so sick , that probably they would be euthanized by every vet in the world.
But they never show a picture of all the healthy animals that they killed because "Better death than in hands of a bad owner , a lab for vivisection , abusers etc. etc."
Of course , it s a vision.
Of course it is a big , big problem that animals have to suffer for our idiocy , our greed and by the hand of psycho's , but , there are also millions of people on the world that love their animals and where the animals live as kings and queens.
Well , take the time to find that people !!!
Very ridiculous is a comment beyond the petition of someone that do not like No Kill shelters because they have a long waiting list. OMG. No , if you kill them quick after delivery , you need no waiting list.
Last year a shelter that was a No Kill shelter for a short time , said on FB that they probably become a high shelter again if people do not adopt the animals that they care for.
I don't know if it was serious , maybe it was only a wakeup call for adoptions. But... a few hours later they become a gift and a postcard of Peta.
“Thank you for doing the right thing” wrote PETA.
Shelby County remains No Kill.
A shelter euthanized 82% of the animals in its care in 2013 in order to save money for public stunts and marketing. Demand this organization prioritize animals over publicity and change to a no-kill shelter immediately.
I still think PETA should stick to what they do best. You don't see BUAV and similar organisations involving themselves in the 'shelter' issue. They would not be in anyone's firing line then. If you believe in preserving life then you cannot make exceptions and they are trying to convince people to adopt a vegan lifestyle.
PETA Euthanasia: We Won't Run From What Needs to Be Done!
Michael - 14 hours ago - peta.org
Already did these. Thanks for sharing.
Sorry Monika for the double post - you may delete if you wish.
PETA: Stop the killing of dogs and cats in your animal shelters and adopt a “no-kill” policy!
Read more: http://www.yousign.org/en/peta-kills#ixzz2qpwMUYyO
Please NOTE the first C2 news from my dear friend Wulf! Thanks. Its the petition directly posted above
'Petition | PETA: Stop the Killing of Dogs and Cats in Your Animal Shelters and Adopt a âEURoeNo-KillâEUR
Petition | PETA: Stop the Killing of Dogs and Cats in Your Animal Shelters and Adopt a âEURoeNo-KillâEUR
Wolf - 2 hours ago - yousign.org
Last week we got that same questionnaire AGAIN.
Signed and shared. Thanks for sharing. Now that I know the truth behind PETA, I won't be doing any of their action alerts.
Signed. I wish they would concentrate on campaigning. More than ever the fur trade needs a real vendetta as we seem to be going backwards with that.
Signed. I have just received AGAIN the same questionnaire about the fur industry with a request for money and a load of free address stickers just a few days ago. Surely the clue is in my address that I cannot afford donations to them plus the fact I have written to them and asked them not send any more to me. Sending free gifts is a waste of charity money and the money would be better spent looking for homes for the animals they have euthanised. I do not understand why they don't stick to campaigning like Speak and SHAC.
As far as I am aware no one has been flagged or asked to leave the group.
The more information we have the more easily we can make decisions and the one thing we are all agreed on is to put a stop to animal abuse wherever it occurs. Even the large organisations do not agree on everything FOR EXAMPLE the WWF voting at CITES against polar bear protection and IFAW voting for and yet both are animal charities!
I will continue to post petitions and information from all sources.
Thank you everyone for what you do for the voiceless victims of human abusers.
No matter who we are, we will always have differences of opinion on certain issues, but one thing I am sure of, is that we all have the same vision, and that is to protect and save our precious animals. Susan, you are quite right in what you said, fighting each other about our differences of opinion is not helping our animals, let's rather stand united, speak with one voice which I have faith enough to know will be heard - so that more animal abusers can be put away, so that executing, slaughtering, torturing and poaching animals will come to an end. We can do it!
flag for review
Well it looks like I have here also flag for review. This has already surpassed me. I leave all groups and longer. Peta I stay and work as you can to bring in what I can, but it wears me out. I will not be watching group by group. Thank you all. A hug. But for me that's enough.
People, people, people...what are you guys doing here...fighting each other? Please, we don't have time for such tripe in my opinion. There are many, many animals that need help. If someone wants to sign a petition, then fine. If not, then don't. You're an adult. Read the information and make up your own mind. I think every single person in this group has the best of intentions and only wants to help animals and have animal abusers prosecuted. No organization is going to be right all of the time. I have heard bad things about PETA, The Humane Society and the SPCA. Is it all true, I don't know. But I do know that these organizations do a tremondous amount of good. I will continue signing these petitions and sharing them after I have read them and decided for myself that I want to sign them. But people, please, stop fighting one another. We can't afford to lose anyone in this group who is an animal activist. Just my 2 cents.
Well, I have no choice if they want to ask me to leave the group. Everything happens for revision flag. Maybe my previous considerations have bothered, even though I was going to tell me, I did, I retract my defenses and everything appears to PETA flagged revision to my query about why the famous flag appeared. I'm sorry if someone bother, I thought we were free to express and again I apologize if I offended the feelings of anyone here. I say I do if I leave the group?
Thanks Dinne. I throw away everything I get from them.
FLAG FOR REVIEW?
Achieve enter the link when it came right to my email.
THIS COMPLAINT IS REAL PETA, so these were my questions aired on TWITTER to change his ways or either denounce
@peta2 @peta Is this true? http://www.whypetaeuthanizes.org/peta-kills/ and http://www.whypetaeuthanizes.org/proof/ http://www.whypetaeuthanizes.org/center-for-consumer-freedom/ … Too many lies for not believing them.
And his answer is that nothing really says everything you complained and got them directly. They obviously have a maneuver of deterrence and simulation.
Removing all my disclaimers made here for Peta
Dianne - well done on speaking the truth. No organisation that does these despicable things deserves to even be recognised in any way.
Thank you Dianne for all this information. The link works fine and Nathan is a reputable source of information as before with Caboodle.
Keep on posting - controversial never did any harm and people need as much info as possible particularly from sources like yours that are not linked to any big business.
signed but why PETA lies??
I could not get the link you posted about the animals killed by PETA that appeared in a container. You can rise again. Thank you very much.
The Truth About PETA : Nathan J Winograd
Dianne Ly - 14 days ago - nathanwinograd.com
A supermarket dumpster full of garbage bags. When police officers looked inside, they found the animals below--animals killed by PETA. PETA described these animals as "adorable" and "perfect." A veterinarian would describe them as "healthy" and "adoptable
I have looked into the CCF and found that they are representatives of the fastfood,meat, alcohol and tobacco industries. In other words they are totally against any animal rights or activism. They appear to have no interest in animal welfare and will do anything to discredit organisations that do.
In other words what ever your opinion of the failings or otherwise of the big animal charities STEER WELL CLEAR OF anything that comes via CCF ( Centre for Consumer Freedom) They also masquerade under other guises like Humane Watch.
Mariann when in doubt don't sign - you can always go back later and there is so much information to absorb in this discussion. You can object to PETA euthanising animals without signing petitions by suspect groups like the one on the petition 10 posts above. The box to tick underneath is very suspicious indeed. I have a lot of problems with the large organisations as they are rarely willing to help in resues by Sanctuaries like ours and they spend so much money on administration and fund raising that is not spent directly on the animals. e.g. I cannot see the point in keeping on sending me questionnaires with a 5p coin to remind me that animals need our help. I have written and asked them to stop and explained why and what we do but still they keep sending. There must be thousands like me and I have received at least 20 of these now which amounts to £1.00 which should have gone to animals.
Nevertheless the campaigning that PETA do against the fur trade and other abuses is effective and I always sign their petitions and post them in our group.
I don't know what to do. I always follow Jan G. I hate animal abusers but I want to be sure of what I am signing. I always thought PETA was good. I also read every angle. Need More Info..
Hi all, While researching I found lots of valuable information, have confirmed soon when the go up and see who and why is discrediting Peta and action. Never lie has legs that run while the truth is not the scope. And God always shows the lying.
Yes Bettina, the box to tick as Ellen noticed was very suspicious. That is why I did not sign that petition. I do believe that you can either be a campaign group like SPEAK and SHAC or a shelter. In trying to do both PETA is leaving itself open to criticism especially as they are advocating not killing animals for any reason including food. I noticed the group in my post above is supported by the Food Industry and Restaurants - another reason to be suspicious!
We have to look at all the information available and make informed choices. I also noticed that the same group refer to Sea Shepherd as Pirates !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want to limit something that I think is very important, in this way, as in any other, the networks allow you to hide the real identity of that appears. So many details have to infiltrate groups that bother to disintegrate. I have no reason to believe in the principle that appears on the network and take it as a basis for taking a stand. The big environmental groups and anti lobbies animalists have many ways of acting, one of them is infiltrate within groups of people with goodwill and pose as one of them. I interact a lot in the networks, especially Twitter and besides being activist for animal rights activist I am the rights of human beings to live in freedom and not under dictatorships and have been followed by accounts that were apparently affinal until I discovered came from such members of government to which I complained, eg United States, Cuba, Venezuela, Argentina and others. From what I know very well what I'm talking about the alleged infiltration of affinity groups only play a role: first cause concern, then take them to mistrust and ultimately to abandon prestigious groups. I do not know if this is the case. But I do not trust anyone. Depth investigated and discovered several in both directions.
I Peta.org contributor. Am activist animal rights and not a word or an idiom. I had 10 dogs taken from the street, now I have 5. Some have departed from diseases like cancer to which to curb the indignity of life to vulnerable applied euthanasia veterinarian that life had dealt them. His departure was a dream move to otro.Otros departed for their own old age and unable to walk or eat despite wanting to do everything possible to recover them, as also helped. Concerned not imagine an animal to recover the cost of any suffering or sacrifice that they must pass in order to feel that I have saved a life. At the cost of what I have saved and for how long. What is their quality of life after the rescue course. I have seen and I have a friend who appreciate not bear to see from an animal and exposed to any suffering by applying invasive and even excruciating care as long as they live another day. I do not share this. Now what Peta, I have researched and initially his response left me satisfied. But why not leave for further research to achieve its verasidad such or such herein. A hug to everyone and thank you for this information. I live in Uruguay, Brazil and Argentina, South America. We are not a first world country, not the second. No strong laws that protect our animals, but I know very closely lobby groups that make breeding animals intensively, refrigerators and other. It seems strange that no allegations of Peta on farms and families who say that all is well in the care of their animals and really not true. Well I will again campaign to verify all information. Greenpeace was also collaborator and Wildlife Service and then investigate those who actually make do despite having won several battles in favor of course animal welfare, climate and others, I've stopped supporting them to discover who they represent and motors the move. Using screen to safeguard animal welfare, environmental protection, the fight to protect ourselves for reasons of climate change and others. I would not find that Peta is equal. But I must be guided by the interests that many may have to destroy this organization. To take drastic measures have to see the two bells and weigh much further to investigate in depth and is not exactly the best way to get information from google and internet where also the interests of other strong play and bet against those who want to stop their Gears of systematic rape against life.
I noticed the box too Ellen and did not sign. I disagree with PETA's killing policy but that doesn't make me anti animal activist especially when I am one myself!!!!!
Re: last petition
This was a check box on the petition- Please contact me with more information about how my freedom is being threatened by animal rights activists, radical environmentalists, trial lawyers, public health know-it-alls, and other activists who think they know what's best for me and my family.
Not sure if I will sign onto this site
PETA Kills Animals! - Help To End PETA's Status as An Animal Shelter -PLEASE TAKE ACTION!!!
Julie- 4 hours ago - petakillsanimals.com
Noted and signed current on this Awful Thread Monika :-0
They are still sending questionnaires to me with a 5p coin attached to' remind 'me of cruelty to animals - I must have had at least 15 in spite of me writing and requesting them to stop and use the money for animals. How many of these letters are they sending out at what cost? Each one also asks for a donation - as if we do not need the money ourselves. Where do they think they are sending these letters to - addressed to Wales Ape and Monkey Sanctuary!!!!!!!!
I have been horrified by the information I have just read from top to bottom in this thread. I know what they do but to see the enormity laid out like this is dreadful. There is enough abuse of animals in the world for them to attend to so why bite the hand that helps? Seems they go for this option time after time. Preaching vegansim and killing animals - a total hypocracy.
Well said Lenicka!!
BTW is there any update on Caboodle ?
Its always hard to hard when Peta is in the picture.
In February with the Caboodle Ranch situation , Monika and I are fully verbal insulted by a pair Peta supporters. Pretty nasty moreover..
Unwittingly, they made me an anti-Peta pittbul. But I was very well informed. What I can not say from the comments that I saw now on the C2NN.
Unbelievable , it's slander in the highest degree.
Pity is , and thats the way it always go , that the issue , and that is why so many pets are killed in US shelters , are complete snowed under in this kind of verbal abuse.
Peta Representatives argue about the need to kill shelter pets and Pitt-bulls.
Wrong or not , you must decide by yourself.
But Peta believers never argue , they always started with Rick Berman and verbal abuse.
I signed , of course , and leave a long comment , but I know it will be for nothing.
ingrid newkirk is a criminal, who should be at the top of the list as an animal abuser and murderer. her strict facade spouting out comments that are totally contrary to what she actually does. signed. thank you.
Death Don't Have No Mercy: Wake Up Call to Ingrid Newkirk
Cindy- 7 hours ago - doggirlpitbull.blogspot.com
Got letter in the mail from them wanting a donation I threw it away! signed.
FBI: Arrest Ingrid Newkirk and have PETA shut down http://www.change.org/petitions/fbi-arrest-ingrid-newkirk-and-have-peta-shut-down
I thought they were one of the good guys!
After reading all these facts, I'm so disappointed with PETA
Thanks for posting Monika, Lenicka and Emily.
Signed. I've never donated to them. I thought they were behind freeing Ben the Bear!
Thank you dear Lenicka for your detailed and very interesting comment.
There are some facts I didn't know f.e that they are using materials from the fifties of last century. I share your sight on the issue 100% ! And as a vegetarian and European like you I don't understand the power of PETA US.
I am glad I can say that I NEVER donated 1 cent to PETA, I only give small rescues/charities working at place to help animals in need
Thank you dear Emily for your GOOGLE results on PETA and the charitynavigator!
This is very helpful ! I didn't know it !
Thank you dear Naomi for signing the petition
done. it is such a shame, and they are so deceitful. signed and thank you, emily.
Sorry but I just have to add that PETA also only received 38.09 out of 70 possible points on charitynavigator.com. For a comparison The Animal Welfare Institute received 64.91 out of 70 points and PetSmart charities received 64.93. I think this is something to also take into consideration. You can go to charitynavigator.com to see why each charity got the score they did.
Signed!! I do not understand how people have not been able to see the truth about PETA. Before I ever donate to an organization I always type into Google both, Why should I donate to ____? And then also, Why shouldn't I donate to ____? And when I did that for PETA I got pages and pages full of why I should not donate to them and that is how I found out the truth about them. When I do that with other organizations I may find a website or two with negetive comments (you can't please everyone) but nothing like when I searched for PETA!
It is more than the sense and feeling of an animal lover can contain.
But it is exactly what animal advocates and rescuers predicted, when PETA did the raid in the Caboodle Ranch .
Caboodle Ranch was the beginning.
I really do not understand people do not see that .
I really do not understand people who say to stand for animals , the No Kill principle do not seen as the only way to treat with animals worthy.
I really do not understand that these people with dry eyes dare to say that PETA the 96% of the animals killed, because they were sick.
How stupid do you have to be , to believe that. Very , very stupid.
Such a percentage of diseased animals will never be in a US shelter.
Moreover, PETA has never made a secret of their position, 'better a dead animal than an animal that might be a very bad life gets after adoption'.
If I, as a vegetarian, years ago when PETA began, could read that , and therefore never had any sympathy for PETA , why did all those millions of animal lovers could not read that himself?
PETA has an unparalleled propaganda machine. They had a good teacher.
He also has millions of people let embrace his delusional , his lies and deceit.
There will always be many people who from ignorance continue to believe in Peta, who do not realize that their donations are not to go to animals but to the millions of stamps, letters and films they make and sent all over the world and where their donation button plays the leading role .
I get a monthly letter from PETA, "Or I know that in China, dogs and cats are eaten and / or brutally tortured for their fur?"
Yes I know, for 15 years. But I never saw that the thousands of brave, especially women, who at night go to the streets , before the cats and dogs catchers come, the street cats and dogs to rescue and to absorb, that , with all the millions of PETA , they supported them .
Or that PETA there all the dogs and cats captures or have shelters.
The people there , saves the bread from their mouths for all these animals to maintain and to give medication .
So why did I get a letter every month?
Because PETA is counting on that I think they do something about it. Because PETA is counting on that I think all those people are financially supported by my donation to PETA.
It is the greatest deception of large order.
Once , I thought that PETA good work done with their hidden investigation. Until I discovered that their films contained material from the 50s of the last century. There are still petitions from PETA circulated of situations that have long changed. PETA just never have recent examples , like there come from other organizations that do that .
The material they used in the CR was distressing.
Unverifiable, what the intention was for it , because it was not all from CR and where it to verify might be were surgical wounds shown as abuse and an animal under anesthesia was dead ,etc etc, while another malpractice in Florida, 1 years before, PETA never did anything.
There was, when another organization cared for the animals , very clearly the context of the misery shown + the treatment and recovery of the animals.
PETA is one big lie.
The war that Peta performs against No Kill shelters, against pitbuls, to shorten the retention time in shelters, it is sick.
And all with a sauce that they are the better people.
As a European I understand nothing of the power of PETA in America.
But, the truth is that all those stupid people giving this power to PETA, by this organization to support in word and deed especially with money.
PETA is the biggest danger for dogs, cats, rabbits etc in America.
But PETA will deal with everything Monika has posted above, as long as stupid people continue to believe in the Holy PETA.
This post was modified from its original form on 02 Sep, 14:53
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 9:13 AM
Subject: Posted on Facebook
This was sent to me this morning. Please pass along to as many people as you can think of.
As many of you know, I too visited there unannounced and did not see any sign of abuse, cruelty, filth or neglect. Founder and director Susan Marino took me all over the property and inside the house, letting me look as I chose. There wasn't even a hint of odor from the animals. Susan is a very unique person in the fact that she created this organization herself, leaving her job as Pediatric hospice nurse.
The animals are safe and move about as freely as they physically can. Although some dogs have cerebral palsy, paralysis, blindness, missing limbs, neurological disorders and among other things, one is a quadriplegic, Susan's motto was to keep them moving so the muscles do not atrophy and cause further damage.
In addition to the dogs, she houses 160 cats that have been dropped off for some reason or another, five exotic birds she brought up from Long Island when she moved to Delhi, one rescued squirrel and three horses.
This is a terrible and tragic thing to happen to Angel's Gate and all because of PETA which allegedly is a responsible animal welfare agency. I am baffled why PETA would enter her facility undercover, fabricate charges, then turn around and make charges against her.
Why try to shut down a wonderful animal rescue and hospice and put these helpless animals in jeopardy? I will never understand but I would never support PETA based on this tragedy.
Please read the message below and if there is anything you can do or you know someone that can, please let me know, or better yet contact Susan at Angel's Gate: email@example.com Thank you all for taking the time to read this.
This is the third e-mail I've sent to PETA. Susan. I bless you for what you've done for animals.
From: Jean Hayes
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:42 AM
Subject: Angel's Hospice
As I've stated twice in e-mails to you, my family, friends and I will not support you until you take responsibility for your behavior against Angel's Gate Hospice. Susan Marino deserves an apology from you and because she lost money due to your lies, she deserves financial compensation for her losses.
From: Jean Hayes firstname.lastname@example.org
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:18 AM
Subject: Posted on Facebook
This animal hospice really needs our help. If you read the story, you will understand why I'm sending a donation and that I'm asking you to do the same thing. PETA had no right to do what they did. This woman takes care of dying and disabled animals. My cousin Dianne told me what was going on.
So, please, if you can, make a donation to:
Angel's Gate Hospice,
Attn: Susan Marino,
510 Archic Elliot Rd.,
Delhi, NY 13753.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart, Jean, aj to Michael
Hospice & Rehabilitation Home for Animals
510 Archie Elliott Rd
Delhi NY 13753
This post was modified from its original form on 02 Sep, 1:43
There has been an unrelenting effort by PETA to eliminate animal shelters/rescues. In particular PETA has opposed the rescue facilities and shelters that take in discarded and abandoned cats and dogs; animals who have been neglected and abused or are unwanted because of their age or their infirmities. PETA has worked tirelessly to OPPOSE the rescue of animals who are seen as disposable by so many of our fellow citizens, for PETA chooses to see these helpless and innocent creatures as a blight on society.
Angel's Gate Sanctuary, like others who have made it their mission to help these unfortunate creatures, has been subjected to spies, fabricated undercover "exposes" and legal action motivated by PETA's long term strategy to see the elimination of all cats and dogs who are kept as pets.
Contrary to popular belief, PETA OPPOSES NO KILL, destroying 90%-95% of all the animals that have the misfortune to wind up in their "shelters". In spite of slick propaganda, PETA and those who share their beliefs, do not support the No Kill movement.
Sadly, PETA has profited well from the publicity of their "exposes".
As a consequence, Angel's Gate is in danger of closing down. The consequences for the creatures that are being cared for are disastrous: More than 200 animals who live there are at risk of losing the only place that will care for them and give them the help they need.
Susan Marino, the dynamic force behind Angel's Gate, is a caring, dedicated person who has devoted her life to helping these animals. She has been subjected to an onslaught of threats and abuse, coming from those who have never even met her or visited Angel's Gate but have taken at face value the accusations, still not proven in court, that have been made against her.
She is not a hoarder, not an abuser, but as the saying goes "once maligned, how do I get my good name and reputation back?"
You can learn more about AngelsGate by visiting their Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/AngelsGateAnimalHospice?ref=ts and please do everything, anything you can, to help them get through this crisis by donating to help the animals:
Angel's Gate is a hospice and Rehab center for animals.
It does fabulous work. As a result of a so called undercover investigation in which a PETA employee posed as a volunteer, PETA was able to get a DA in upstate NY to press charges of animal cruelty against the owner and operator of this organization, Susan Marino.
She was even accused of being an animal hoarder. If one were to examine the evidence which is a biased video taken by the "volunteer" with subtitles added ( really!) and a report by this "investigator"
I have personally been there and brought 6 cats to this facility.
I saw every part of the place and there is no evidence of any wrong doing by Susan Marino, a former nurse. Ms Marino runs the facility like a mini hospital with its own ICU and regular trips to a Vet.
Although all these charges were brought over one year ago, amazingly no animal was ever removed from the place. This almost underlines the fact that not even the DA or PETA think those animals are in any danger. They know very well that the publicity of all these animals being removed with no place to go would cause an uproar.
This seems to be, in my view, more of a publicity stunt for PETA and it is damn annoying. Keep in mind that PETA makes a fortune in donations and it is not clear what their mission really is. If you would write to PETA to ask about Angel's Gate they send in reply a "canned" email to anyone making an inquiry.
As a result of PETA's actions. Angel's Gate donations are at a standstill since there are people out there that believe anything they read. Now Angel's Gate - this hospice, hospital, shelter - is in danger of having to close their doors.
Susan Marino is looking for people who are willing to adopt these special animals.
I can tell you that there is no other place like this anywhere. In nearly 30 years of practicing law I have never seen such injustice. Please send this message out. If you can help, please do.
If you can adopt, contact Angel's Gate. In any event these creatures need your prayers.
From: william wellisch
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:50 PM
Delhi, NY: Angels Gate Animal Hospice under attack by PETA. Please Help Save This Sanctuary!
The following is a disturbing story. It almost has the tone of a drama in which innocence [or good] is attacked by malevolence [or evil].
This is the story of an exceptional rescue shelter in Delhi, New York, Angel's Gate, that serves as end-of-life hospice, hospital, rehab center and shelter for countless dogs and cats, and now must face a relentless assault by the highly controversial and relentlessly self-promoting group, PETA [People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.] This facility does such noble work; serving as a shelter for some of the most needy. the sickly, the disabled, the discarded.
Angel's Gate is asking for one of two things. One, they would very much like to continue the operation of this facility. For that to be possible, money is needed. Two, in the event that the facility closes, adopters will be needed for the dogs and cats [ and possibly the three horses].. For information about adoption, Angel's Gate will need to be contacted concerning which critters are available, etc.
Read the string of notes in this e-mail. The first outlines the general problems while the remainder are testimony to the good work of Angel's Gate.
The facts stand as presented by the various writers who share in concert the passion to save this wonderful facility. Some minor editing for smoothness was done by me.
I take the presentations offered on behalf of Angel's Gate to be true and accurate. I assume that the harsh measures alleged to have been taken by PETA to be true, based upon a pattern of such behaviors that have been shown to have occurred in the past.
Please save Angel's Gate, this monument to the good a single person can undertake thanks to a shared belief of like-minded people.
If you can provide some assistance - through donations, offers to adopt, or some other measures - please feel more than welcome to contact Angel's Gate.
wil j wellisch
Delhi, NY Angels Gate Animal Hospice closing? Please Help Save This Sanctuary! Please Donate!
Make a donation to:
Hospice & Rehabilitation Home for Animals
510 Archie Elliott Rd
Delhi NY 13753
PETA claims its overall goal “is dedicated to establishing and protecting the rights of all animals.” ... PETA basically contradicts itself by saying that animals should be treated like humans. ... It may claim to want to help animals, but the devastating number of animals euthanized in PETA shelters makes me sick, and I hope it makes you sick, too. The website www.Petside.
I know for a fact that Bunny Magic did not treat those rabbits as poorly as PETA claims. If she supposedly treated them badly, why did the organization leader go 160 miles round trip every week to Baltimore for veterinary care of the rabbits? That’s four hours, round trip, sometimes two to three times a week. The article in the Aug. 10 Calvert Recorder said that over 200 rabbits were sick and injured. The majority of the rabbits were healthier than rabbits in pet stores. They were curious and alert, and went bananas for bananas, were perfectly adoptable and were cute as could be. In addition, all except for a few younger rabbits were spayed and neutered. Bunny Magic Rabbit Rescue had a room known as the sick bay that was set aside for sick and injured rabbits. The leader stressed to volunteers that the sick bay was to be done last in the daily rounds, to make sure that disease was not transferred to other rabbits. The sick bay was a room next to that “dark shed,” as PETA described it. The “dark shed” was actually a room about 20-by-20 feet in a large, detached garage. This air-conditioned room had plug-in lights to conserve electricity. PETA had also said, “Another rabbit was allegedly so afflicted by disease that her neck was twisted nearly 180 degrees, leaving her struggling to stand.” Rabbits that have this condition are still able to eat and drink. I would like to compare this situation to a dog with cancer. Do you spend money on possible treatment? Do you have your dog put to sleep? Do you keep your dog as comfortable as possible for as long as possible? Bunny Magic had chosen to give the sick and injured rabbits a comfortable, happy life for as long as they had to live.
Instead of turning Bunny Magic in, why didn’t PETA, which cares immensely for animals, reach its paws out to help nonprofit rescues with its $32 million funding? PETA determined that the basic care of the rabbits at Bunny Magic would require more than 35 hours per day. Since PETA will not help, I am calling on you, Southern Maryland, to help take the burden off rescue organizations like Bunny Magic, who have helped take some of the financial burden. There are many simple things we could do as a community to make a big difference to them. Adopt a pet, rather than buy one from a breeder or pet store. Or foster one while it waits to get adopted. If you can’t make a donation, you could support local businesses like “The Spot” thrift store, which donates its proceeds to animals. If you own a business, put up fliers so that people know that these organizations exist, and put out a donation jar while you’re at it. Farmers and produce stands, donate leftover market greens or straw. If you belong to a church group or scout group, you could help for a day. High school guidance counselors, give rescues as an option for students who need to earn service hours. If you are a vet, donate one day per month. Lastly, if you are a pet owner, be responsible, so that animals won’t end up at rescues in the first place. Out of the pure kindness of your heart, Southern Maryland, I am asking that you reach out and help these desperate rescue organizations. There is no excuse for leaving these animals and organizations in the dust when they are well beyond being taken advantage of.
Ashley Steele, Port Republic
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:42 PM
To: Anti-Fur Society
Subject: Re: Seeking more help for the Bunny Magic Rabbits
Thank you so much for writing - and everyone, you can help if you would care to put this open letter to PETA on your face book page pleasee.:
An Open letter to PETA
What were you thinking when you made the decision to raid the Bunny Magic Shelter? Money? Publicity? I don’t believe you thought about the rabbits at all because now the rabbits are in far worse condition than when they were at the BUNNY MAGIC SHELTER!
The Tri County workers are doing the best job they can having had this situation thrown upon them – but they do not know anything about rabbits nor their care or how they should be housed. Rabbits are not cats and dogs! These frail prey animals require special handling so that their backs are not broken and special care in feeding so that their delicate digestive systems do not fail, resulting in death.
There are rumors leaking out that are not very pleasant and reflect ignorance concerning the care of the rabbits. It would be nice if Tri County would allow a Rabbit Rescue into the shelter so that the Tri County workers could be guided and educated about the care of these intelligent, but fragile creatures.
I saw the photos in the paper, supposedly evidence why the seizure took place. Pictured was a lively well fed rabbit with long nails – that is not cruelty! I saw dead rabbits in the freezer, ( Vets keep dead animals in their freezers) due to the drought the ground was too hard for Mrs. VanWie to bury them. I saw a garage that had bunnies in cages ( again, all plump rabbits) and a lot of hay scattered round…and I saw a few full litter boxes….and a picture of 4 lionheads happily playing. Was this truly a good reason for you to uproot 220 rabbits from their air conditioned home and put them in a barn where 8 that we know of have perished, (we think now that the number is higher) and it is said they are full of fleas and I've heard that many are wet due to sitting in trays containing their own feces and urine. There are Cottontails that should have been released but are living in cages terrified and frantic when humans come near them. Cottontails by law are only supposed to be cared for by licensed rehabilitators.
Mrs, VanWie had passed an inspection from Animal Control within the last year. If there were problems at any time she should have been formally notified and given the opportunity to rectify them before the rabbits were seized.
So again I ask what was PETA’s purpose? Judging by the result – and Peta’s current absence and apparent disinterest in the care the rabbits are now receiving - it could not have been the welfare of the rabbits.
Animals rescues need help, not criticism
I am a 14-year-old, committed volunteer at Bunny Magic Rabbit Rescue, and I am extremely disappointed with the Aug. 10 issue of The Calvert Recorder [“Rabbit rescue raided”]. I realize Bunny Magic had more rabbits than what myself, a few other volunteers and the organization leader could handle. However, did anybody, including PETA (People for Ethical Treatment of Animals), stop to ponder what would happen if rescues set a limit on the number of animals they could take? ... It results in Calvert County taxpayers paying for the shelter care and/or the euthanization of the animal. In addition, if the resident decides to dump the animal along the road, Animal Control, funded by Calvert County taxpayers, then has to come and pick up the animal because the rescue organizations are too full at the time.
PETA, by choosing to turn in Bunny Magic, has taken more money out of the taxpayers’ pockets for Animal Control to take the rabbits away, for law enforcement to spend numerous hours completing an investigation and for the animal shelter to care for or euthanize 222 rabbits. In reality, PETA could lend a helping hand to these rescue organizations. ... On Aug. 6, the organization leader of Bunny Magic was looking into purchasing a generator to power the well pump, the fridges and possibly the air conditioning units for the rabbits. Keep in mind, this is someone who is being accused of animal cruelty. Yet, she is willing to pay big bucks for a generator in case of a power outage for rabbits that she supposedly treats inhumanely. ... I admit, it may have been a bit crowded and disorganized. However, these rabbits were kept in air-conditioned rooms, and not one rabbit was denied attention and care.
A Calvert Recorder headline on Aug. 15 read “Seven rescued rabbits perish after raid.” Any dedicated rabbit owner knows that rabbits get stressed out and extremely depressed when they are taken away from their loved ones, and could even die. When we moved my pet rabbit out of my room, within a week’s time she had stopped eating and became lethargic. As soon I transported her right back next to my bed, she quickly began eating and bouncing once again. We will probably never know whether or not the seven rabbits that died were ones that were from Bunny Magic’s sick bay room, or if they were in poor health because they were longing for their owner. The leader of Bunny Magic had her personal pet rabbits taken away to the animal shelter along with the rescue rabbits. I cannot fathom what she is feeling right now or how her pets are coping, having been torn away from the person that they love dearly. Every day, they would greet her with kisses and nonstop bouncing. If it wasn’t for Bunny Magic, most of those 222 rabbit
200+ BUNNIES SANCTUARY CLOSED BY PETA-- IMPORTANT TO KNOW!!!
Scroll down for another sanctuary in NY that suffered the same attack. These are regular
people like you and me that dedicate their lives to saving animals, and then—instead of help, they get this?
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: Seeking more help for the Bunny Magic Rabbits
To the Anti-Fur Society;
Are you also aware that volunteers that have worked there say how Mrs Carole Van Wie has gone to great lengths to care for those rabbits? The regular vet visits? The adoption events? How MANY rabbits she has adopted out over the past few years? How little PETA knows about rabbits (ask ANY House Rabbit Society person about rabbit care----PETA clearly put the rabbits in harms way with this heat!).
There was an excellent letter to the editor of the local paper written by a 14yr old girl who regularly volunteers at the Bunny Magic Rescue---- It is very eye-opening!
! It puts things into better perspective. Mrs Van Wie is not the 'hoarder' that PETA makes her out to be! Talk to the vets that see her rabbits---and what they can testify about her care for them!!!
Bottom line though is that these rabbits don't have much time---they can only tolerate the heat and poor care for so long, as they are already beginning to die from this catastrophe. TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE!
Thanks for your assistance, and your interest in these poor rabbits' welfare.
( House Rabbit Society member, and Rabbit Care Educator for the Tacoma Humane Society)
A hutch is not enough. Please watch this video: http://tinyurl.com/75akvsd
A rabbit is a 10+ yr commitment. Adopt only if you will live up to your promise.
This post was modified from its original form on 02 Sep, 1:31
Nathan Winograd about PETA and Shelby County No Kill
Please read the full article posted in this link:
But I wasn’t the only to reach out to Shelbyville when the story broke. PETA did also. Unlike the No Kill Advocacy Center, they did not offer assistance. Unlike Shelby County No Kill Mission, they did not help save the animals. PETA didn’t ask what they could do with their $35,000,000 a year in revenues and millions of animal loving members to help save animals being threatened with death, as donors intended and as supporters assumed. They didn’t offer to help the Shelby County shelter find homes, build temporary kennels, board animals, foster animals, adopt animal, or even just get the word out across Kentucky that animals need help.
Instead, PETA sent Shelby County government and shelter officials gift baskets, with a note thanking them for their decision to start killing again after four years. “Thank you for doing the right thing” wrote PETA in its gift offering from Allison’s Gourmet which included vegan cookies,* baked without eggs or dairy, because—you know—harming animals is wrong.
Before the first cat was poisoned with an overdose of barbiturates, the PETA staff had begun to celebrate the mass killing proposed. This is what the Butcher of Norfolk and the rest of the PETA death cult stand for. But now PETA will have to put away the party hats because the animals are safe. They’ve been adopted. They’ve been fostered. They’ve been placed under the protective embrace of rescuers.
Ingrid Newkirk is death.
Kelly Jedlicki is love.
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Thank you for posting.
HOW IRONIC. HOW DREADFULLY SAD. SIGNED, DEAR MONIKA.
I hate hypocrisy, therefore ABSOLUTELY signed. Thanks Monika!
Signed of course !!!
A lot of people knew for years but PETA called it ' rumors ' .
Glad that more and more people sees the real face behind the donation button.