Early Voting Goes Dem and Armey Screams Fraud (VIDEO)

What happens when the initial results of early voting don’t seem to be going your way?  Well, if you are Dick Armey, the first thing you do is cry fraud.

And once again, you make these claims without an iota of evidence of actual fraud.  Perhaps the problem for Dick Armey and his gang is an inability to fathom that significant portions of the American public disagree with his positions and his candidates.  Or, is Armey’s point that minorities and urbanites are inherently less truthful then his constituents?

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Michael Cunningham

"Whether Rep or Dem if a politico is involved,more than likely there is some fraud or other going on. My view is rid the planet of politicos and make the world a better place."

I believe that is called anarchy!

selwyn m.
selwyn m7 years ago

Whether Rep or Dem if a politico is involved,more than likely there is some fraud or other going on. My view is rid the planet of politicos and make the world a better place.

Michael Cunningham

"and it's not as susceptible to fraud as one might think. "

I'd have to say that depends on where you are. Heard from a reliable source that here it is sign a card, here's your ballot, now vote!

Patricia B.
Patricia B7 years ago

A comment on early voting/voting by mail. I've done it now for the past couple of years. Because I'm disabled, getting to the poling place alone became such an exhausting production it was ridiculous, then once you're there it's not always easy to get accomodations for someone who can't stand at the voting booth. So I started voting early, by mail, and what a relief!! In my state, you have to be registered to vote before you're allowed to vote by mail, so yes I had to show a picture ID to get my voter's registration, as does everybody. In other words, you can't just somehow register to vote by mail without first showing your ID. Honestly, I was more worried about what would happen to my ballot once it was received, so I called my local Recorder's Office and they walked me through their process which eased my mind somewhat. Being a minority Dem in a red state, I can tell you I've received mail before from unnamed sources saying they've changed the polling place and/or the election date!! Luckily I didn't just take this as a fact and I called about it, but I shudder to think how many people didn't make that call and missed their opportunity to vote. There is a definite upside to voting early, and it's not as susceptible to fraud as one might think.

Susan T.
Susan T7 years ago

Crap. Glitch in Care2 didn't post my entry. Don't hv time to write all over

What I found reading about ACORN "cases" was that the ONLY case where they were convicted of anything was the one in Washington State, where 7 temporary employees saw they were going to lose their jobs so they forged fake registrations to pump up their numbers. So these people were idiots and ACORN hopefully learned something about supervising the local branches better. However, not one of those fake registrations resulted in voter fraud - not one single vote was cast illegally. Actual voter fraud of this nature is very very rare. So even in this instance ACORN did not commit voter fraud or do anything that resulted in voter fraud.

I find this issue to be confusing bec voter registration groups are required by law to turn in ALL cards they collect, even ones they think might be fake. So I think this case turned on the issue of intentional forgery by the workers themselves.

I found the other posts to be either not offering any real evidence - ie EPI site - obviously a biased conservative think tank - listed things like a single person's complaint as equivalent to charges being filed.

Michelle Malkin is extremely biased - not a credible source. She cites Yuma AZ case where as I pointed out b4 she goofed but now says even tho sources she cited previously as saying there WAS fraud when they actually said NO fraud - well there really was fraud. Huh?

Susan T.
Susan T7 years ago

Michael -

If you have to go to the polling place, give a fingerprint & picture ID, you are disenfranchising many seniors, among others, from voting. My elderly parents are not going to the polls - Dad had a stroke & Mom is in a wheelchair. I am currently away from my home taking care of them so absentee ballots are near & dear to my heart. It also protects those in the military.

Caging refers to specifically targeting certain groups for mail confirmations, & it's an illegal practice.

The mail "confirmations" do NOT come fr a govt agency they come fr (for ex) the GOP, who targeted new Dem voters in 2004 where 1 out of 4 Ohio registered voters went to the polls & were told they were not registered due to GOP challenges. It's not recognized as irrefutable evidence.
"On October 27th, ruling that the effort likely violated both the ''constitutional right to due process and constitutional right to vote,'' U.S. District Judge Susan Dlott put a halt to the GOP challenge -- but not before tens of thousands of new voters received notices claiming they were improperly registered. Some election officials in the state illegally ignored Dlott's ruling, stripping hundreds of voters from the rolls."

will address ACORN in subsequent post

Michael Cunningham

“Re: picture ID to vote - what about housebound seniors? ”
2 basic points! No one ever said drivers license! I currently have 4 picture id's in my wallet right now. Three issued by Government agencies and the fourth by a quasi-government agency. 2 with signatures, 2 without. Absentee's do not have any requirement for an id. That is a bad thing also. Security of absentees is non-existent!

“I do agree with you the way we vote is idiotic - no national standard, poor security overall etc.”
I still have paper ballots! But I do not have full trust in the machine that I put said ballot into that counts it!! Right now, especially with the culture of fraud prevalent online is probably the worst we could do. Absentees are close behind that! Think on it here & now only face to face with certain, secure id and perhaps fingerprint on the ballot itself is the only way to end the problem.

“CAGING - Sending a piece of mail to someone's house”
Ok, never heard that term before. But this is an accepted legal practice. A certified letter sent and returned unsigned & unopened is legal proof of contact. Junk mail is one thing, but you consider mail from your city or county to be junk mail? I know it is not accepted everywhere but were I scrubbed from the roles all I need do is prove who I am & where I live and I vote!

Like to take the time to compliment you on your ability to carry on, unlike many others, a reasoned discussion of an i

Michael Cunningham

"Yes I haven't yet investigated all links you offered for "2010 voter fraud" but you haven't shown me you actually read even one article fr link I cited w dozens of articles on 2004 voter fraud. Best is RFK http://www.yuricareport.com/Campaign2004/WasThe2004ElectionStolen.html"

Actually I did read, at least tried, the article about the fight over the material actually published in the "Rolling Stone". I found the piece disjointed. That made it hard to relate it to much of anything. Nor did I see how that, which I think you id'd as the best of the lot, actually applied. Nor did I see it refuting anything.

Actually the tone and tenor of the piece sounded like a petulant person upset over how a "friend" was treated.

Michael Cunningham

Part Two

ACORN’s Voter Fraud in Ohio is Part of Larger Pattern

New report shows ACORN has been linked to voter fraud in 12 states including Ohio

8/11/06, Washington, DC –ACORN’s recent run-in with the Franklin County elections board for allegedly turning in falsified voter registration cards is only the latest in a long-standing pattern of dubious elections practices. ACORN employees have been accused of submitting bogus voter registration cards and forging signatures on ballot initiatives in 12 states since 2004.

Judicial Watch Obtains New FBI Documents Regarding ACORN Voter Fraud Investigation

I trust these are sufficient to advise you that ACORN is indeed culpable. I know their claim has always been "bad employees", but the situation is so wide spread, pervasive, and attached to ACORN I can't accept that claim as credible. I also am aware the at least one person named in these is on your "s---" list, but as their reports are not so different from even the august body of the NYT perhaps you will not instantly set a match to everything.

Michael Cunningham

Part One

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Four people have been indicted on charges of voter fraud in Kansas City, officials said Wednesday.
Investigators said questionable registration forms for new voters were collected by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, a group that works to improve minority and low-income communities. (http://www.kmbc.com/r/10214492/detail.html)

On Monday, Nevada officials charged Acorn, its regional director and its Las Vegas field director with submitting thousands of fraudulent voter registration forms last year. Larry Lomax, the registrar of voters in Las Vegas, says he believes 48% of Acorn's forms "are clearly fraudulent." On Thursday, prosecutors in Pittsburgh, Pa., also charged seven Acorn employees with filing hundreds of fraudulent voter registrations before last year's general election. (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124182750646102435.html)

The following has info on four different states; http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michelle/malkin102710.php3

Guess which left-wing group is at the center of the worst case of voter-registration fraud in Washington state history? Yep, you guessed it: ACORN. The same ACORN tied to massive voter fraud in Missouri. And Ohio. And 12 other states. Here’s the Washington state scoop via Seattle’s KOMO TV: “King County prosecutors filed felony charges Thursday (http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/26/acorn-falls-again-the-worst-case-of-voter-registration-fraud-in-washingt