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Ladies: If You Want to Get Married, Get Back in the Kitchen

Ladies: If You Want to Get Married, Get Back in the Kitchen
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Men are in big trouble. We’re slothful, clueless, adrift on the wind, unable to deal with a world that has changed. There’s no place in modern society for men, and that’s why men are now way behind women and falling further back each day. All the good men have gone away, because society won’t let men be good.

At least, that’s the story we keep hearing. The End of Men has been a topic of discussion since at least 2000, when Christina Hoff Sommers wrote The War Against Boys, and continued on with Hanna Rosin’s The End of Men. Now, Suzanne Venker adds to the mythos, with a new article on Fox News’ online site proclaiming the bitter “War on Men.”

It may come as some news to women and men alike that men are doomed. After all, men still out-earn women despite the efforts of three generations of feminists. Nevertheless, folks like Venker love to talk about exactly how men have been hurt by a society in which women are allowed to compete with men on a level playing field.

As is often the case, Venker starts with an appeal to the Most Important Thing Any Woman Could Want, Marriage:

The battle of the sexes is alive and well. According to Pew Research Center, the share of women ages eighteen to thirty-four that say having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in their lives rose nine percentage points since 1997 – from 28 percent to 37 percent. For men, the opposite occurred. The share voicing this opinion dropped, from 35 percent to 29 percent.

Believe it or not, modern women want to get married. Trouble is, men don’t.

Yes, men refuse to get married, which is why 100 percent of marriages were between women in states where same-sex marriage is legal. Well, those and the two million-odd other marriages that happened. Still, it’s obvious that some women have trouble finding a man that they want to marry. (Men, of course, do not ever want to marry.) So what’s to blame? According to Venker, it’s women — or what passes for women these days.

As the author of three books on the American family and its intersection with pop culture [...] I’ve spoken with hundreds, if not thousands, of men and women. And in doing so, I’ve accidentally stumbled upon a subculture of men who’ve told me, in no uncertain terms, that they’re never getting married. When I ask them why, the answer is always the same.

Women aren’t women anymore.

Women are no longer women, but she-demons, who come from the great land across the sea. They do not love, but rather devour their mates, bones and all. Who could love such a creature?

I kid, of course. If you’ve met any women lately, they seem, well, pretty much like women. They’re, you know, female and such. Most men have little problem dealing with women like the women they are. Sure, there is the odd Men Going Their Own Way group, who Venker cites, but the MGTOWers aren’t representative of more than a small, emotionally-stunted group of misanthropes. They hardly represent mainstream thought among straight men, most of whom still find women to be attractive.

Nevertheless, Venker tells us that women have changed, thanks to the sexual revolution, while men haven’t changed, because we guys already worked. Of course, she simply skips over that epiphany, and mutters that women have been taught to think of men as “the enemy,” and pushed men off of our pedestals so they could take our place.

Venker is on to something here — men have, indeed, been taken down a notch by women. Actually, that’s not quite right — men haven’t been taken down a notch, but women have clambered up to near-equal status. Men haven’t fallen any, but women are no longer as far beneath us as they were before they stood up and demanded better.

Some men may find this discomfiting, to be sure — it’s easier to out-compete women when they start out behind you, after all — but happily for society, those men aren’t calling the shots anymore.

Venker wishes they could.

It is precisely this dynamic – women good/men bad – that has destroyed the relationship between the sexes. Yet somehow, men are still to blame when love goes awry. Heck, men have been to blame since feminists first took to the streets in the 1970s.

But what if the dearth of good men, and ongoing battle of the sexes, is – hold on to your seats – women’s fault?

Well, the “battle of the sexes,” such as it is, must by definition be partly women’s fault. It takes at least two to battle. But by definition, it’s also men’s fault. A fair amount of it is nobody’s fault — a good deal of the “battle” is just men and women growing up to realize, to their shock, that men and women are really both human, and the minor differences between them are swamped by the vast similarities. At that point, many (though not all) men and women find partners, many (though not all) of the opposite sex, and start going through life as part of a cooperative endeavor. Which is far more fun than battling, I think we can all agree.

Of course, discussing cooperation doesn’t generate nearly the page-views as claiming that women are destroying men, so Venker goes with that.

Contrary to what feminists like Hanna Rosin, author of The End of Men, say, the so-called rise of women has not threatened men. It has pissed them off. It has also undermined their ability to become self-sufficient in the hopes of someday supporting a family. Men want to love women, not compete with them. They want to provide for and protect their families – it’s in their DNA. But modern women won’t let them.

They won’t? Most women are perfectly fine with their partners working to provide for and protect their family. They just don’t feel that men alone should be able to do so. Women actually enjoy providing for and protecting their family too. I suppose it’s in their DNA, but it’s also simply in taking pride in your accomplishments, and making sure that people who depend on you are taken care of.

Or as Venker says:

It’s all so unfortunate – for women, not men.

Exactly. Wait, what?

Feminism serves men very well: they can have sex at hello and even live with their girlfriends with no responsibilities whatsoever.

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7:31PM PDT on Sep 19, 2013

make sure your lady uses a lady pen so she wont be tempted to write manly things. and please scroll down and read the comments here.
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5:48AM PDT on Mar 11, 2013

Thomas P. you are evidentally not a republican and I do know guys like you are out there but believe me your kind are far and few between. You misconstrued my meaning and being that you are a man (a kindly openminded one) it would take to much time and debating to have you see my reasoning since you have never been treated as a second class citizen and hopefully you never will be.

1:14PM PST on Feb 22, 2013

interesting article and comments

7:35PM PST on Feb 13, 2013

I believe in total equality between the sexes in terms of rights and responsibilities but I do also agree women act like women and men be real men in complementary roles in the family society and service

5:09PM PST on Feb 4, 2013

Thanks. I'm somewhat shocked by the comments here, by both men and women. Frank P...there are plenty of "good women" out there. I'm not sure where you are looking, but the days of June Cleaver are definitely over, thank God. Katie K...respectfully, I don't know what you mean by "a whore in the bedroom," but I can tell you that I have never looked for a woman for her cooking skills, and I have never looked for a "whore." You say you were raised in the 70's. I'm not sure what it was like back then, but I know that the 70's have passed us. If what you are referring to by a "whore" is a woman who enjoys sex, this just in...not only is it ok for a woman to enjoy sex, it's supposed to be that way (if she has chosen a man who is also considerate of her needs and wants as well as his own). The fact that she enjoys sex doesn't make her immoral or a "whore" or a "bad" girl. It makes her a normal woman. Both men and women should realize that they can fully accept and embrace the concept of feminism and it will not change the fact that women will still remain feminine.

4:47PM PST on Feb 4, 2013

there are certainly not that good women anymore out there like we had years ago, and all the June Cleaver women are a thing of the past.

1:51PM PST on Dec 17, 2012

June Cleaver in the kitchen and a whore in the bedroom. Fortunately for me, I was raised in the 70's when women actually became human beings and could exist with or without a male presence making them whole. I've always been capable of taking care of myself and only associate with a mate that shares my world and enjoys my company equally. Marriage is a piece of paper that in the past inslaves a woman and that boat don't float in Katie Land.

1:37PM PST on Dec 17, 2012

I feel like another thing that needs to be added is that the feminist movement has not only pissed men off by making women compete with men, it's also not allowed women to be women. It's no longer acceptable for women to be sensitive or romantic in the presence of a feminist cause that's not something a strong and independent woman would do. Whenever that happens to me, I feel like saying "Isn't being feminist supposed to be about being proud of female qualities as opposed to trying to adopt masculine ones? By trying to adopt masculine qualities aren't you admitting that the masculine role is superior to the feminine one?" This is why we need both roles and there's nothing wrong with the feminine role contrary to some extreme feminists beliefs.

I'm all for equal rights such as equal pay and not facing discrimination based off your gender and so on but in all honesty, we need the gender binary in order for men and women to love each other.

11:16AM PST on Dec 12, 2012

Good lord, what a totally useless and banal subject to waste energy on, with the world in the state it is, with all the war and cruelty and hatred about. All this idolising of marriage, for pity's sake. Marriage as an institution went out in the 1970s. If you're bourgeois enough to want a long-term relationship, cohabit. If you've got the strength of character not to give a damn, good on you and go for it.

6:35PM PST on Dec 9, 2012

This continues to be a very important discussion as I am getting the sense that we are moving backwards in some areas of women equality. However, I have to add that all my career advancement / development is because of men who gave me opportunities - never have I sensed they felt threatened because I am a woman.

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