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California Continues to Burn...Hell Right Here on Earth

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Trying to stay centered as fires rage all around California. The Acton fire is about 1 hour's drive away from me. The sky is eerie black with ash. 76 homes burned, 2 firefighters dead, thousands of homes threatened.


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Marion Y (322)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 12:10 pm
The Station Fire is 5% contained with no let up for the next 2 weeks. One captain said if no rain, no let up. My heart goes out to these people. Please keep us in your thoughts.

Please visit the link for many dramatic images of the fire. Only pictures can convey the situation.

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 12:25 pm
Marion, I hope that you and your home and your family and friendsare safe!

Marion Y (322)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 12:33 pm
Thank you for your concern, Blue. We are fine. It is eerie. Temperature now is 120 degrees with black skies from the fires. Ash blowing around and air quality is declared hazardous. I'm in the desert where there is nothing to burn. But one hour away are large cities with compacted tract homes.

Many active fires up and down California.

Judy Cross (83)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 12:38 pm
the drought may be man-made. It is known that weather modification techniques were used against Serbia for years after the war ended.

Here in BC, rainfall has been so meager this year and drying chemtrails so obvious before a storm front that friends who depend on a cistern fed by rain off the roof, ran out of water in February.

Drought & Chemtrails - Is There a Connection?
Wonder if this the reason for the endless chemtrails hitting California - to provoke/cause the current drought?

Nancy M (147)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 12:46 pm
Marion, i hope you aren't near the fires.


Nancy M (147)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 12:51 pm
Beautiful photos Marion. Pictures do speak louder than words.

Carrie B (306)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 12:52 pm
Marion, stay safe.

chris b (2474)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 12:53 pm
We can only pray for the firefighters and the people and animals that somehow they may stay safe. We are thinking of you and praying for the fires to go out!

Marion Y (322)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 12:56 pm
Judy...Definitely thinking as you are about chemtrails and man-made. I believe there is a connection. Also, many of the fires have been declared arson. The largest one (Station Fire) is suspected as arson. Who would do this? The list is long...firefighters wanting overtime pay, homeowners losing homes, businesses, angry people. California's economy has been hit hard by the depression/recession. Since we have fires every year, many would think this might go unnoticed if they set a "little" blaze.

Nancy...I'm one hour from the Acton fire. Desert chapparal says I'm pretty safe.

See dramatic photos of the fire.

Teresa Nemeth (343)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 1:48 pm
As we well know the 2009 California Wildfire Season is taking a toll on the environment and wildlife. Most of the causes are from the drying of the lands as people migrated and in-migrated over the last four hundred years. Forests were cut down used as building and other resources. Creeks and rivers clogged up from the Gold Rush era, plus water diverted to the South for use. These are some examples. Now we have global warming to contend with....

Past Member (0)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 2:56 pm
Marion--I grew up in LA, so I've seen dozens of these fires and what they can do. Sleep with one eye open and have a bag packed, just in case. We'll all pray for you.

Pete Conrads (91)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 3:08 pm
Oh dear Marion,
The air that you are breathing can not be very good. So sad to see that those firefighters died :o(
I wish you and your loved ones the best, may no more lives be lost.
I lived in California years ago and I do not remember such fierce fires. :o(

Simone Duffin (1462)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 3:10 pm
Be safe Marion. We have had enough fires here for a lifetime.

Michele DiGiorgi (320)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 3:19 pm
Oh dear Marion ~ I wish you many blessings hon, I didn't know you were in the area, my goodness, stay safe.

This is just a tradegy for everyone. I watched the news and heard about the firefighters that gave their lives for their beliefs and it touches my heart...

Thank you so much for this article, I shall pray hard for you & all there. I will pray for rain as well my friend

In peace,
FreeSpirit ~

Mary H (47)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 4:19 pm
I have many friends & relatives in the fire's path -- my prayers are being said for all...

Marion Y (322)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 4:29 pm
UPDATE: The world's largest flying water bomber, Martin Mars, just arrived in Los Angeles and has dropped 7200 gallons of water over Mt. Wilson. It's raining in Big Bear and low clouds are expected later in the week. This is all good news.

Thank you all for your concern and prayers.

Marion Y (322)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 4:31 pm
FreeSpirit Running...Keep the pow-wow going. You've got it raining in Big Bear!

Tom M (814)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 5:00 pm
Thanks Marion, I'm also in CA, in the Santa Monica mountains about 20 miles from the Tujunga fires. We have a water shortage here, so people are only allowed to use their sprinklers twice a week. With all the hot whether we've been having, everything is extra dry here in the mountains.

Judy, you said "the drought may be man-made." Does that mean you've finally come around to believing that global warming may be man made? My goodness, I never thought I'd see the day ;)

Michele DiGiorgi (320)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 5:04 pm
Ha...I had no doubts that my prayers to the Great Creator wouldn't work, thank you sweetie, I'll keep the Pow-wow going for all, this is so good to hear!

Many blessings my sister in soul,
FreeSpirit ~

Judy Cross (83)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 5:10 pm
You know very well that is NOT what I meant.

Weather modification has been going on for a very long time and it has NOTHING to do with CO2.

"Weather Modification technology is in use today by both the United States and the Soviet Union. Both the U.S. and Soviet projects involve the manipulation of the ionosphere and the alteration of the earth’s magnetic fields. This technology seems to have both localized and global capabilities. Evidence indicates that this technology also has the capability of manipulating human behavior and mood patterns. "
"Long-term Weather Blocking
The long-lasting California drought in the 80s was caused by a massive ridge of high pressure 800 miles off the California coast which hovered for extended periods of time, blocking the usual flow of moist air coming in from the Pacific and pushing storms around to the north. Meteorologists who have analyzed this phenomena consider it to be one of the most unusual national patterns ever recorded, unique in the annals of weather recording. Such long-lasting centers of high pressure were unheard of until 1977. Evidence suggests that this was possibly caused by Woodpecker generated giant standing ELF waves which are transmitted by the Soviets intentionally to block the flow of normal weather patterns.
This phenomenon of long-lasting centers of high pressure is not limited to producing drought. In 1993 the Midwest region experienced severe flooding which was a result of the wettest period in this particular area since rainfall record keeping began in 1876. This flood was a result again of what meteorologists called a blocking pattern.
The normal weather systems usually move from west to east across the U.S., but during the ’93 flood the weather systems stalled for six weeks over the upper Midwest. A high pressure system over the eastern part of the United States was causing warm, moist air to move up from the Gulf of Mexico and dump moisture in the Midwest, where it met the jet stream. This weather pattern involved an unusual shift in the jet stream, which during the summer is usually weak and typically found much farther north in Canada.
This stationary high pressure front also blocked the path of cold Canadian air, resulting in record low temperatures in the Northwest. According to the September 1993 issue of Storm, The World Weather Magazine:
"It is extremely unusual for weather patterns to persist for so many weeks, bringing heavy rainfall to the same area almost on a daily basis… The reasons for the weather patterns to become fixed, as they did in June and July, 1993, are unclear."

Marion Y (322)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 6:53 pm
Tom...Santa Monica has had its share of fires so I know this is a big worry. I'm thinking of you as well. We drove through Malibu recently and I noticed many residences have severely cut back trees. We had no idea there were homes along that ridge. Such a beautiful area!

Okay kiddies...let's stick to the topic here. CA wildfires...not global warming. I will be giving updates on the fires and don't want them to get lost in another topic. Thank you.

Tom M (814)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 7:27 pm
Sorry Judy, I couldn't resist ;)

Marion, I promise I'll stick to the topic after this brief response to Judy's last post...

Climate scientists reconstruct the Earth's climate history by studying proxy records including ice cores, sediments from the ocean, corals, and tree rings. From these proxies, they reconstruct Earth's climate history and compare climate changes of the past with observations of recent climate changes and their projections of climate change in the 21st century. According to derived data, recent human-induced climate change is occurring faster than other examples of climate change over the last millennium.
Source: CCIR

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 7:55 pm
Marion, I remember the Santa Ana winds stirring up the fires along the mountain ridge(s) surrounding Palm Springs when we lived there; and we almost had to evacuate and take the horse and cats and birds when we lived in Montana during the horrible summeer of 2000 ...

Stay safe Marion, ear one.

Blacktiger P (247)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 7:59 pm
I am also worried about the Acton fire as that is where Tippi Hedren's Shambala Preserve is. Marion can you keep me updated on that please. Also stay safe yourself.

Yvonne White (229)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 8:52 pm
Fires are so scarey & so destructive.. I'm in the Midwest & have never been even close to a forest fire, but we do get earthquakes sometimes, and I've seen major floods.. Marion, you said you're safe in the desert, but don't these fires cause power outages? And don't they also cause water pollution - as if air pollution isn't bad enough? I don't pray, but I'll think good thoughts for you!:)

Tuesday September 1, 2009, 9:13 pm
The fires started in Acton which is about 1/2 hr. from us. Fortunately the fire moved away from us (we had the joy of experiencing that last big fire out here, was just a couple of blocks from us, but thankfully we were lucky then too. We are praying for the people in Acton, everyone effected in betwen and everyone in Glendale and further. We have friends in Glendale pretty close to the fire............

What's amazing to me is when we had the nasty fire out here, it was so windy there was no way to control them. There's NO WIND now so what's the problem is my big question??????? I'm just a little suspicious!!!

Tom M (814)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 9:20 pm
Update on Shambala Fire: Although the Station fire, which doubled in size to 85,000 acres overnight, has reached the doorstep of the Shambala big cat sanctuary in Acton, the resident lions, tigers and other animals are (hopefully) staying put. Chris Gallucci, Shambala's vice president of operations, told our colleagues at L.A. Now that the staff at the sanctuary "have everything to fight fires on this property" and that they even perform elaborate fire drills every six weeks to ready themselves for an event like the Station fire. For more info, click here.

Tuesday September 1, 2009, 9:24 pm
I frorgot to mention it's very biazarre how much smoke, etc we have in our skies too, when there's NO WIND! It is eerie!! And the smell of smoke is as intense as it was when it was just 2 blocks from us last time.......

Tuesday September 1, 2009, 9:26 pm
And YES. I believe the drought IS man made. Just one of the results of all the chemtrails they've been spraying ad nauseam for over 10 years............YEAH, our government LOVES US!!!!

Wolfweeps Pommawolf (251)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 9:30 pm
Wishing and sending rain your way...*S*
We just finished experiencing the driest record in Alaskan climate history, and we have lost nearing 3 million acres i in a total of over 500 forest fires this year....
We are now in a belated rainy season, and I am wishing them your sister in law is in the hospital there right now having just having surgery yesterday...and her biggest fear if the ongoing fires that you are having....Be safe....and take care.....

Tuesday September 1, 2009, 9:37 pm
Oh, and I forgot to add a comment about the 'arson' factor. My belief now that I know about the governments practice of MK Ultra mind control is that they get their hands on some poor guys, turn 'em into patsy's and somehow get them to commit arson when instructed. Then they arrest the poor guys if they can and blame it all on them. Problem-reaction-solution all over again. It's disgusting.

I've also read articles about some firefighters who had started fires in order to become hero's when they get the fire out. Who knows, maybe even some firefighters have been subjected to MK Ultra. .......

Fire is another way to create FEAR and get people OFF CENTER. We are praying hard for these fires to be put out ASAP.. I also heard the fires are another way to destroy some of the homes that are in foreclosure. The PTB want to create more open area's and wilderness and they want to own ALL of it.......on teh global warming front, I BEG everyone to really research the subject. It is NOT what it appears either. All part of the agenda................As a lifelong democrat, what I've/we've learned has broken my heart too many times to count.

Locan Sleeping-Squirrel (209)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 10:14 pm
Thank you Marion for helping me she what's happening there. Please stay safe. Reminds me of '92, so much happened we were eventually waiting for the locusts to arrive.

Jaette Carpenter (20)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 11:14 pm
We're hoping everyone stays safe. My Uncle lived in California but passed away this last year. It is a beautiful place full of some wonderful folks. Rain is the one thing that will stifle the fire. We will pray for rain big time for all the people, animals and vegetation. Marion stay safe. JC

Tim Redfern (581)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 11:16 pm
I'm a native of Los Angeles, lived there
'til I was 33. I've been in Tennessee for
14 years, and I'm now in the process of
moving to the Oregon coast.
I've been following the news of the fires
with great interest, and great sorrow for
all involved.
Marion, my friend, I know exactly where
California City is, and I know you're in
the danger zone. Though I'm sure you are,
please be prepared to bug out at a moment's
notice (or less), and get out of there! Please
know you have been, and will continue to be,
in my prayers.

Kathleen Hilliker (293)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 12:57 am
Please stay safe, Marion....we are all hoping for the best for our California friends nearby. Even the desert here in Phoenix got some rain last night! See? Miracles CAN happen!

I'm thinkin' of you & know you'll get through this! Hugs!

MmAway M (519)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 6:05 am
Thanks for the info on the Tigers Tom, Marion and Tom both of you be safe, although I'm 1 1/2 hr away, have been following this, Prayers for you as well as all of the people up there, wildlife, firefighters...and the heading is correct -- It is Hell!!!

Marion Y (322)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 6:49 am
Thank you ALL for the heartwarming concern and comments. I'm a firm believer that care and concern for others blesses us in our time of misfortune.

Tom...Thanks for the update on Shambala. Tippi has the animals and her belongs packed and ready to go if the fire department gives the word. She won't let anything happen to those animals.

Yvonne and Tim...Thank you. My husband has our home geared for emergencies and outages. We could survive here for two years or more without help. That includes water and food. We have (10) 50-gallon barrels of water that store for 5 years. We have emergency rollaway luggage that is equipped with everything, including gas masks, sleeping bags, solar packs for our laptops, cellphones and other electrical needs. These packs have the works in them. The cars are loaded with emergency equipment for on the road. Our family thinks it's overkill...we think it's disaster preparedness. He still wants to build a bomb shelter...

Lucky Artlady...I'm concerned about you too. Stay safe. I'm with you on the conspiracy theories. With California's economy in depression mode, there is no doubt in my mind criminal acts played in the weather and fires. Fire fighters want more money (overtime pay for these fires), businesses are failing, homeowners losing homes, and crazies are jumping in with nothing to lose. There are many reasons to set these blazes.

Wolfweeps...Wishing a speedy recovery for your sister.

Marilyn...You are in my thoughts too. Stay safe.

Marion Y (322)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 7:23 am
UPDATE ON SHAMBALA: Although this animal sanctuary (home to 64 big, rare cats) lies near the fire, this video explains why staying put with the animals is the best way to go for now.

UPDATE ON STATION FIRE: 22% contained. Cooler, more humid weather today gives firefighters a more even battle. "Hotshot" special firefighters are lighting controlled fires to stop the fires from bursting further out of control. The Station Fire has not reached California's Mount Wilson Observatory and communications center, which houses vital equipment for the transmission of 22 California television stations, 25 FM radio stations and numerous cell phone providers. This area is still unpredictable and could sustain damage.

2 firefighters dead. 18 firefighters injured.

Sir Walk F (124)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 9:39 am
This wouldn't be happening if seasonal controlled burns were the norm. Of course, we can't do that because of expensive homes and suburbs built in unreasonable areas--so the areas are left to become a powder-keg, destroying even more homes in the long-run!

These kids of things will get far worse before they get better.

Uhoud A (184)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 10:24 am
Stay safe marrion Marion, I hope that you and your home and your family and friendsare safe! bless safe peace to all and to us too ..

Deborah B (72)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 2:50 pm
Marion - I am keeping track here in Chicagoland on that inferno in California. I am praying that you will stay safe and that those who are victims of this inflagration will somehow recover.

Marion Y (322)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 3:11 pm
Thank you all for your concern.

Sir...Excellent point. Now that California has suffered deep budget cuts, we will see less funding for seasonal burns. I agree, people who live in fire zones live with their choice. Yet, there are hazards no matter where we live.

Joycey B (750)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 4:17 pm
My prayers to everyone and to the animals too. We all love you and want you and your family to stay safe dear Marion.

Joycey B (750)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 4:19 pm
You stay safe too Tom.

Tim Redfern (581)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 11:30 pm
Marion, it is NOT overkill.
Blessings to you, Tom, you're in
my prayers as well, sir.

JennyLynn W (246)
Thursday September 3, 2009, 12:31 am
We have visited LA several times when there were fires burning nearby, and it's hard to believe what it's like if you are not there. My thoughts are with all those dealing with this inferno! Last time, we left a day early because the ash and smoke were so bad, and I wondered how those who live there were going to deal with what we were driving away from. I just can't imagine. We're hoping for rain, slow and steady rain for days.

Marion Y (322)
Thursday September 3, 2009, 8:06 am
Burnt Area: 144,150 Acres (10% increase from yesterday)
Location: Los Angeles County, CA (4 miles north of La Canada on SR2 - Angeles Crest Hwy)
Cause: Under Investigation
Expected Containment: 15-SEP-09

NOTE: The Station Fire is the largest of many fires blazing across California right now. I'm just focused on this one.


Thank you ALL for your comments and continued concern. Smoke and ash continues to fill the skies around me. Temps yesterday were 112 with no wind and dark skies. I stayed indoors with the air filter going. Hope today is better.

Tim...Much appreciated.


Anumpeshi Aduddell (227)
Thursday September 3, 2009, 11:35 am
Closer to my house every day,or humble abode!

Marion Y (322)
Thursday September 3, 2009, 11:43 am
Anumpeshi...So sorry! You are next door to Tim and threatened by the fire. Be safe. I'm thinking of you too.

Marion Y (322)
Thursday September 3, 2009, 7:59 pm
Massive Station Fire ruled arson

Fire officials say the massive Station Fire in the Angeles National Forest is the result of arson.

The L.A. County Sheriff's Department has initiated a homicide investigation in the wildfire.

As Eyewitness News first reported on Wednesday, authorities are looking into the possibility that Forest Service personnel may be involved in the cause.

Sources say the fire is believed to be human-caused because there was no lightning in the area, but not necessarily intentionally set. Possible human causes include arson, kids playing with matches, a thrown cigarette butt, sparks from heavy equipment in the area and an unattended camp fire.

The Station Fire broke out August 26 and is now the largest fire in L.A. County history. The expected containment date is September 15.

Michele DiGiorgi (320)
Friday September 4, 2009, 12:33 pm
Marion, Tom, Anumpeshi & to all that live in the area...I am wishing you all well with my heart. Marion, thank you for all of the updates sweetie, stay safe all ~

I just heard on the news {yes, the media} that it was started by an arsonist? and that they are looking for that person/s? Just a share...

Someone did mention that in one of the comments here...

Blessings all,
~ FreeSpirit ~

Michele DiGiorgi (320)
Friday September 4, 2009, 12:36 pm
OOps ~ sorry Marion, I just caught your comment above mine ~

Thanks for letting us all know hon.

Blessings ~ FreeSpirit ~

Marion Y (322)
Friday September 4, 2009, 3:41 pm
UPDATE ON STATION FIRE: 144,743 acres burned...38% contained. Fire is active during the day and night operational periods. The fire is currently directly threatening Mount Wilson, which is a major communications facility servicing all of Southern California. Mandatory evacuation order issued for Little Tujunga from Bear Divide to the Wildlife Waystation. Unified command continues with Los Angeles County Fire, Los Angeles County Sheriff and Pasadena. Arcadia, Monrovia and Sierra Madre will enter in to unified command today. Total personnel on the incident is 4,735.

Significant Events: Previously issued mandatory evacuations have been lifted.

Remarks: Angeles Crest Highway remains closed and is the primary access route for 18+ Camps/residences, numerous private residences, and the Mount Wilson Communication Facility and Observatory. The Mount Wilson Communications is directly threatened. This facility is a major communications hub for all of Southern California. The spike camp at Central Park in Santa Clarita is operational. Unified command continues with Los Angeles County Fire, Los Angeles County Sheriff, Los Angeles City Fire, Glendale and Pasadena.

Outlook:The hot and dry conditions in Southern California are beginning to recede. By Saturday significantly cooler temperatures and increased humidity will build into the area including a deep marine layer in coastal areas and canyons. By Monday the area will begin warming again, although at this time it is not expected to get as hot as it has been during the past two weeks. In Northern California light rain is possible in some areas during the coming weekend before a dry and windy pattern sets up early in the week. At this time “high risk” days have been identified for the Sacramento valley and in Sonoma and Mendocino Counties early next week due to forecasted winds.


Past Member (0)
Saturday September 5, 2009, 5:17 am
what is even more devastating is that every year this happens in california and more of that state burns up.

they're thinking, like in many cases where this has happened in california (as well as in the state where i've lived), that this particular incidence may be arson related. my god what is wrong with us.

Marion Y (322)
Saturday September 5, 2009, 6:51 am
UPDATE: Station Fire is 42% contained.

$100,000 reward for information leading to arsonist.

Marion Y (322)
Saturday September 5, 2009, 7:00 am
You cannot currently send a star to FreeSpirit because you have done so within the last week.

Michele DiGiorgi (320)
Saturday September 5, 2009, 9:15 am
TY Marion sweet spirit sister ~ but it is you that deserve more than a star for just being there in California & updating everyone on everything. Your quite a brave woman my friend.

Hoping your still doing well hon, and all others {Tom, Anumpeshi, all my friends in that area} & {animals included} out there ~
~Also hope they find the arsonist ~ What a horrific thing he/she did!

Blessings to all,
~FreeSpirit ~

Ed P (12)
Saturday September 5, 2009, 10:49 pm
Thanks for he information Marion.Here in the midwest we don't get the information about how bad the fires are and the lives that have been lost.

Marion Y (322)
Sunday September 6, 2009, 10:40 am
UPDATE ON STATION FIRE: 50% contained. Cooler weather is helping firefighters. For the first time in a week, I had blue skies and fresh air in California City. Unfortunately, air quality in the fire zones is still horrendous.

UPDATE ON SHAMBALA: Southern California animal sanctuaries and shelters respond (brilliantly) to the threat of wildfire

Thank you ALL for your concern and well wishes. I hope you all have a safe and relaxing Labor Day weekend!


Marion Y (322)
Tuesday September 8, 2009, 3:54 pm
UPDATE ON STATION FIRE: 57% contained. Weather has helped firefighters and it looks like this fire should be out within a week or so.

Unless there is a turn of events, I will not continue to update this thread as it seems the threat is under control.


Past Member (0)
Friday October 2, 2009, 7:45 am
noted and thanks Marion.
I pray for you that are near the fires will be safe and I also pray for those who are fighting these fires and the animals fleeing for their lives.
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