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Everyday Erinyes #174

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Furies, facial recognition technology, state moratorium, Detroit, Michigan, Police, Police Chief, Police Commissioners, Willie Butler, Lisa Clark, handcuffs )

- 5 days ago -
A post on TomCat's blog. More on facial recognition. Now it's getting personal.


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Gene J (289)
Saturday July 13, 2019, 8:46 am
Well, I do see the bird, though it is not identical. Problems with facial recognition software are ubiquitous, it was tried here and abandoned. Though if you watch any television, law enforcement not only uses it but uses it a lot. I read a story earlier this week which talked about how Homeland Security has been dipping into state motor vehicle records, drivers license photos. We've had a lot of problems with that in Minnesota, a number of women, two of them police officers, have won huge settlements because some cop stopped some woman he found attractive and then shared that information with others who promptly looked them up, illegally. One of the two female police officers won suits TWICE. The last one in the past month in six figures. Technology is useful in so many ways but the opportunity for abuse is there and it is heavily abused as are those whose privacy is violated and worse as Joanne's post demonstrates. We get dumber by the minute.

TomCat S (123)
Saturday July 13, 2019, 9:55 am
Excellent article, JD. 😻

Pat B (354)
Saturday July 13, 2019, 10:07 am
I agree with Gene's comment on this subject.
Profiling through facial recognition(s) has it's setbacks, and it makes me feel uncomfortable, like Mr. Butler's horrible experience, re: questioning the chair about the bill.

True story here: Years ago, while I was working at the middle school, a teacher came up to me and asked me why I was so belligerent and rude to one of the front office staff, and why did I leave the campus in a huff. (?) I had no idea what she was talking about....and a while later, was apologized to, by the same teacher who confronted me, about this . Obviously...somewhere in this line of thinking, it wasn't ME, but a woman who looked like me, talked like me, and walked like me. We had no cameras on campus at the time, but I was falsely pinned for another woman's actions/behavior. I never found out the lady's name until much later, but I joked (thereafter) that I must of had another twin lurking about. So .. to point out, quick judgments whether by sight/sound or technology is not fool proof.

Unfortunately, I believe that PoC folks have it much more worse than my personal experience, if one can't identify the difference between Ms. Winfrey and Ms. Obama, with using the technology.

I understand how technology can be, but it's not an airtight positive answer either.

Great post, Joanne! (and Furies).

Doris F (19)
Saturday July 13, 2019, 10:11 am
tyfs Joanne

Saturday July 13, 2019, 11:05 am

Colleen L (3)
Saturday July 13, 2019, 11:19 am
Agree with Gene. I have never cared for seeing these new facial technology systems anywhere, Been signing to ban and keep the away from being used.
Like Pat's experience, it can get innocent people in trouble.
Thanks Joanne

David C (75)
Saturday July 13, 2019, 1:35 pm
thank you

Freya H (344)
Saturday July 13, 2019, 3:11 pm
Facial recognition software is not only dodgy, it is a blatant violation of the U.S. Constitution, specifically, the 4th Amendment that is supposed to protect our right to be "secure in [our] persons."

Animae C (508)
Saturday July 13, 2019, 6:27 pm
The war on our FREEDOMS!!!!

Lona Goudswaard (66)
Saturday July 13, 2019, 8:30 pm
In principle, there’s nothing wrong with facial software recognition (FSR), but everything with the way it is used. Facial software technology is a tool and any tool can be used wrong and can be dangerous in the wrong hands. For a long time police put a lot of trust in witness testimonies and recognition in a line-up, but studies have shown how unreliable they were, no matter how honest and reliable the witnesses themselves were. FSR can be helpful, as long as the user understands that it has its limitation and could point to an innocent face.
Given the bad reputation many police forces have on racial profiling and the larger margin of error in case of darker skin colours, FSR should never be the only ‘evidence’ the police should act upon. As a rule, there should be other evidence linked to that person first, before FSR can be used to confirm the identity.

Danuta W (1251)
Monday July 15, 2019, 2:50 am
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