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Started in late 2008, The Zeitgeist Movement exists fundamentally as the communication and activist arm of an organization called The Venus Project.


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Robert S (111)
Sunday September 19, 2010, 10:07 pm
This term was first coined by Jacque Fresco of the Venus Project and refers to an economic structure based exclusively on resource management and relevant education.

The world today has become very detached from nature, with techniques of production and distribution that have no relationship to the physical environment. Our use of a profit based, “growth” driven monetary system has become one of the greatest destroyers of the natural world and sustainable human values. It is important to understand that the entire global economy requires “cyclical consumption” to operate, which means that money must constantly be circulating. Thus, new goods and services must be constantly introduced regardless of the state of the environment and actual human necessity. This "perpetual" approach has a fatal flaw, for resources as we know it are not infinite. Resources are finite and the Earth is essentially a closed system. Once we run out of life sustaining resources, the game is over. For example, our entire society is constructed out of fossil fuels, which are not renewable, and require millions of years to develop. The plastics in everything you own, along with the ammonia-based fertilizer which is used for the mass production of food, coupled with the outrageous amounts of energy used in transportation, along with the electrical grid that powers your home, are almost all derived from fossil fuels. In other words, we have constructed a society based on a resource that is nonrenewable. What is going to happen when we run out of this resource? It is simply a matter of time, isn't it? This is a question which is critical to consider, for the consequences are dire and staggering for the human species unless we make a quantum and radical change quickly.

Sadly, the intents associated with the monetary system are counter progressive in this regard, and derive a strategic edge from scarcity itself. This means that depleted resources are actually a positive thing for industry in the short term, for more money can be made off each respective unit. This is known as the basic law of supply & demand and hence “value” in economics. This creates a perverse reinforcement to ignore environmental problems and the negative consequences of scarcity, for it literally translates into profit.

To make matters worse, the system requires problems/constant consumer interest in order to work. The more people who have cancer in America, the better the economy due to expensive medical treatments. Needless to say, this generates an inherent disregard for human well being. The monetary arrangement, whether in the form of capitalism, communism, socialism, fascism, free-market or the like, is utterly detached from natural resources and thus human well-being. It is erroneously assumed that the incentive to seek money is also the incentive to help society. Nothing could be further from the truth. For example, every single product created by a corporation is immediately inferior by design, for the market requirement to cut creation costs in favor of lowering the output "purchase price" to maintain a competitive edge, automatically reduces the quality of any given item by default. In other words it is impossible to create the “best” long lasting anything in our society and this translates into, again, outrageous amounts of resource waste. This is entirely and provably unsustainable as a social system and the world you are beginning to see emerge around you, with starvation, poverty, unemployment; along with the growing scarcity of water, food and arable land, is the result.

Likewise, most occupations are not directly related to the actual necessities of life. Rather, they are artificial concoctions in order to keep people employed so they can maintain purchasing power. The very reality that each human being is required to be put in a position of servitude to a corporation or client in order to gain income to purchase the necessities of life also perpetuates extreme waste... however, this time, it is the waste of the human mind and human life. In the modern world, advancements in science and technology have shown that we can automate a great deal. In fact, statistically speaking, the more we have applied mechanization to labor, the more productive things have become. Therefore, it is not only negligent for us to waste our lives waiting tables, working at a bus station, fixing cars, or other repetitive, monotonous jobs, it is also entirely irresponsible for us not to apply modern mechanization techniques to all industries possible for, apart from strategic resource management, this is a powerful way to achieve balance and abundance for all the world's people, reducing crime generating imbalances. In other words, it is time to update society to present day knowledge, taking the carrying capacity of the earth into account and realigning our methods based not on the reward of monetary gain..but the goal of social sustainability as a whole.

Even with our current, destructive methods, the Earth is still abundant with resources. Today our practice of rationing resources through monetary methods is irrelevant and counter-productive to the well-being of people. Today’s society has access to highly advanced technologies and can easily provide more than enough for a very high standard of living for all the earth’s people. This is possible through the implementation of a Resource-Based Economy.
A Resource-Based Economy utilizes existing resources rather than money, and provides an equitable method of distribution in the most humane and efficient manner for the entire population. It is a system in which all natural, man-made, machine-made, and synthetic resources would be available without the use of money, credits, barter, or any other form of symbolic exchange. A Resource-Based Economy would utilize existing resources from the land and sea, and the means of production, such as physical equipment and industrial plants, to enhance the lives of the total population. In an economy based on resources, conservation and the most advanced methods of science and technology, we could easily produce all of the necessities of life and provide a high standard of living for all. To do this, we have to overcome our current, outdated, established practices. This is the purpose of The Zeitgeist Movement- to create a global awareness to thus transition into a new, sustainable direction for humanity as a whole.

Robert S (111)
Sunday September 19, 2010, 10:11 pm

Robert S (111)
Sunday September 19, 2010, 11:14 pm
I don't know how many will read that whole intro above but I hope you watch the video at the top anyway. Quite interesting and informative.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Monday September 20, 2010, 7:30 am

Thanks for posting this, Robert!

(This video is even listed on my profile as a "must read.")

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Monday September 20, 2010, 7:31 am

"must view"


Gregory Hilbert (422)
Monday September 20, 2010, 8:39 am

Robert, this morning I saw your comment on my "Even Our Troops Are Awakening" post, bearing the link to this WHOLE TRUTH video. I've been viewing it for the last 40 minutes, the audio is playing in the background right now! I was opening a new window to send you a message when I saw your message advising you'd posted this.

I came to a conclusion that if there was only one more thing I could do on Care2, the thing that would be of greatest value would be to get this video viewed by a large number of Care2 users. I was going to propose a collaborative effort toward that end. Now that you've posted it, and seeing Carole champions it also, it occurs to me that I could post the video on a page on SEN, and there have little more than a PROMINENT link back to this post on Care2 (and a tribute to Robert and Carole for championing this video), so that THIS post would be boosted and the thread prolonged. It's the value of a prolonged thread HERE I'm thinking about. I could later do a Care2 post to the SEN page, creating a flywheel directing users to THIS page, increasing its life, gaining more views of the video AND giving people benefit of the comments on the thread.

And so, Robert and Carole, I'll watch for your response to what I've proposed, perhaps you have caveat or better idea. I'm in the midst of some things as you know, looking to disenslave myself so as to continue unpaid activism, but I think I can "get it done" and see it as well worth the effort.


Cher C (1426)
Monday September 20, 2010, 10:07 am

Thnx for posting Robert!!!

And thnx for the forward Carole sweetie!


Pat B (356)
Monday September 20, 2010, 11:32 am
Thank you, Robert for this, and Carole for FW!

Sir Walk F (124)
Monday September 20, 2010, 12:29 pm
saw it a few years back. thanks for the reminder. food for thought, at the least.

Past Member (0)
Monday September 20, 2010, 12:34 pm
Good post Robert, thanks for sharing with us,
Thanks Carol for forwarding.

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Monday September 20, 2010, 1:05 pm
Sorry Carole and Robert, the video won't play for me.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Monday September 20, 2010, 1:08 pm

Hmmmm . . . Maybe you should try again in a few minutes. It worked for me.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Monday September 20, 2010, 1:11 pm

Just a word of advice:

The movie is over 2 hours long, so you'd need to either block that amount of time to watch it in its entirety . . . or you can do what Gregory did (and I often do) by running it in another tab and listening, while going about your other business.

[You will, however, miss some excellent visuals by doing so.]


Brigitte T (69)
Monday September 20, 2010, 1:35 pm
Thanks for posting it!! I watched it a few months ago and at first thought I'd watch only some of it but I couldn't stop before the end :) It is outstanding and explain a LOT of things.

Pamylle G (458)
Monday September 20, 2010, 1:42 pm
I've watched both Zeitgeist & Zeitgeist Addendum and I highly recommend them !
The Addendum shows us we absolutely have options - starting NOW.

Linda G (187)
Monday September 20, 2010, 3:24 pm
I was not familiar with the Zeitgeist movement but it makes such perfect sense. Just reading the intro above was very thought provoking so I will block out the time to watch both videos to see how I can contribute. Thanks Robert and Carole for sharing this. And thanks Gregory for promoting it further. This Care2 family is simply awesome!

Monday September 20, 2010, 3:36 pm
I too have been afan for awhile. Excellent to post this Robert. I think I will re-watch tonight. Thanks Carole for forwarding.

Linda h (86)
Monday September 20, 2010, 3:37 pm
I'm looking forward to this. Thanks.

Hugh M (75)
Monday September 20, 2010, 4:04 pm
This is something I want everyone I know to see, but the reality is that most people I know will not want to see it or consider it at all. It's up to us to find other ways to bring our friends to understanding. Once again I am thrown back from the practically impossible to the irresistible solution of spiritual activism. Spirit is more powerful than anything and our literature is full of the knowledge of that. Myths and dreams? Yes, but indications of where real truth lies. Go beyond practical and change the world together.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Monday September 20, 2010, 4:13 pm

The truth lies somewhere between.

This is the quote that appears at the bottom of all my personal emails:

~ “The belief that there is only one truth, and that oneself is in possession of it, is the root of all evil in the world” | Max Born ~

Robert S (111)
Monday September 20, 2010, 4:19 pm
Thank you my friends Carole, Gregory and everyone for your interest/help in doing what you can to help this be seen. Gregory as per your suggestion. Run with it.
I just got back from work. Thought of this all day hoping it might be received well, gain traction, and be seen.
Me and my better half stayed up late into the night not wanting to stop watching even as we grew tired. I thought afterwards, I must bring this to Care2, where it may perhaps get it due viewing. It seems it may, and I am thankful for that given its message, which I think is profoundly clear, wise and illuminating as to what is, and what might be if we are to have a sustainable and just world. Please share it far and wide as it looks to be a seed of much needed change, which can only happen with knowledge of that behind the curtain.

Robert S (111)
Monday September 20, 2010, 4:24 pm
“The belief that there is only one truth, and that oneself is in possession of it, is the root of all evil in the world”

Hear hear, Carole, and hats off to Max. If not all the evil, certainly a damn good part of it.

Gregory Hilbert (422)
Monday September 20, 2010, 7:56 pm
Robert, will do, as soon as window of needed time presents itself, probably later in week. Will message you and Carole before posting on Care2 to insure it serves and credits you without implying either of you endorse anything on SEN or stuff I say or do here. Rather, SEN will be urging people to view the video you've both urged people to view, agreeing it is greatly enlightening and worth the time! And SEN page will link back to here.

Michael Masley (4)
Sunday September 26, 2010, 9:37 am
noted and thanks - good luck with the move Gregory!

Cynthia D (340)
Sunday September 26, 2010, 10:12 am
The Venus Project can't get here soon enough for me.

Susan Pernot (75)
Sunday September 26, 2010, 10:58 am
Thanks for the video. Today would be a good day for the Venus Project to start.

Gregory Hilbert (422)
Sunday September 26, 2010, 12:04 pm
Robert, unable to do more at this time, I messaged friends an appeal inclusive of visiting here to see the video, and note that Mike, Cynthia and Susan now have, and I hope more will do so later today and Monday. Thank you again for all your good efforts to inform and enlighten!

Patricia Myers (73)
Sunday September 26, 2010, 6:46 pm

patrica and edw jones (190)
Monday September 27, 2010, 1:51 am
An amazing post - thanks Robert. Green star on its way.

Anna Smith (493)
Monday September 27, 2010, 3:30 am

Glenda J (158)
Monday September 27, 2010, 12:32 pm

Michela M (3964)
Wednesday September 29, 2010, 6:27 am
Noted!! Thanks!! Ciao!! Michela

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Wednesday September 29, 2010, 10:45 am
It finally worked.

Robert S (111)
Wednesday September 29, 2010, 12:26 pm
Yea! Glad you stuck with it till success.

Mandi T (367)
Wednesday September 29, 2010, 4:57 pm
Thanks Robert. Noted..

charlie shread (0)
Wednesday July 13, 2011, 8:12 pm
Brilliant! Good to see The Zeitgeist Movement spreading to Care2. We need to keep it alive and breathing - this will be a revolution of the human race :D

Vicky C (0)
Friday September 16, 2011, 2:49 pm
Thanks! I want to spread this and had difficulty so I referred to your post.Thank you!
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