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Happy Anniversary, America! How Lethally Stupid Can One Country Be?


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Demopublicans, warmongers, corruption, propaganda )


- 4126 days ago - commondreams.org
A Democratic Party propaganda piece, blaming the Republicans for wars that the Congressional Democrats voted for and both Democratic candidates support, while the people do not have a vote and Democrats in Congress do not represent their constitutents.



   

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Past Member (0)
Saturday March 29, 2008, 11:56 am

This story misleadingly refers to the traitors half of the Democratic Party, as if half of the Democrats in Congress had voted against war. Only one person, Democrat Barbara Lee, voted against the war on the first vote. To this very day, most Congressional Democrats and BOTH Democratic candidates continue to support the war and are committed to continuing it.

In the United States the people do not get to vote directly on issues like war. Only "elected" representatives get to vote, and the Democratic Party in Congress has consistently voted for everything Bush and Cheney wanted. Not a "traitorous half" of the Democratic Party, as this propagandist misleadingly suggests, but the Democratic Party leadership and the overwhelming majority of Democratic Members of Congress, despite knowing that the wars were based on lies and that the overwhelming majority of the constituents oppose war.

This story was posted by somebody else, made the front page, and got more than a hundred comments, without anyone noticing the lies.

Wake up, America! It is your representatives who have been betraying you and will continue to do so. They have even pledged to continue the wars.

The lethal stupidity is that despite knowing that our elections are rigged and that nobody can know for sure if their vote is even counted, no less counted accurately, people not only continue to vote, but eagerly vote for candidates who do NOT represent their interests.

If even half the Congressional Democrats had voted against the wars, it would make sense to blame the Republicans. If even a quarter of the Congressional Democrats had voted against the wars, it would make sense to blame the Republicans. The Democratic Party is NOT an opposition party.

Wake up!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday March 29, 2008, 12:05 pm

We are not a democracy, so we do not have proportional representation the way democratic countries do. We have no Labor Party, no Socialist Party, no Green Party, and no Peace Party in Congress, just two war parties.

That's why campaigns and candidates avoid focusing on ending the war crimes, and focus instead on health care, gun control, abortion, or the sex or skin color of the candidates. Both parties and all three candidates have taken money from and are thus beholden to the military-industrial complex, and make endless excuses for continuing the crimes against humanity in Afghanistan and Iraq.

You cannot further the cause of peace by voting for war or by supporting parties and candidates who have voted for war and are committed to continuing the war.

Don't let the propagandists and political party operatives distract you. If you want peace, withdraw your support from parties and candidates that have supported and are committed to continuing the war crimes. People who commit and support crimes against humanity will not hesitate to tell lies and spread propaganda to get you to blame somebody else for what THEY voted for and THEY support.


 

Eleanor B (909)
Saturday March 29, 2008, 1:39 pm
The US system of democracy doesn't seem at all democratic to me. You have a president who can veto anything that's passed by the H of R and the Senate. You have a president who needs to raise millions of dollars from big business to allow him or possible her to dish out the propaganda that will win votes. There is now not even a proper voting system where votes can be honestly counted. Both parties rely on big business and therefore do the bidding of big business. How can this be democratic? Mark, the UK is not democratic either - we don't have PR. It is Tweedledum or Tweedledee here too. And neither represent the people. This is why fewer and fewer people vote. The Labour Government was elected last time by 22% of the people who voted - not of the total electorate. So a small minority were responsible for five more years of Tony Blair and his clone Brown.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday March 29, 2008, 1:47 pm

Thanks, Eleanor. But just to clarify your comments and my own, it is impossible to change a system without proportional representation (PR) just by having more people vote. When options are limited to the same two parties and to candidates with pro-war agendas, voting cannot bring about change.

Only in systems with proportional representation, where, if a party gets five or ten percent of the vote, they get five or ten percent of the seats in the legislature, does it become possible to bring about change through voting, as the small parties can form coalitions and potentially overrule the reigning corporate parties.

Without proportional representation, at least half of any electorate has no representation whatsoever, and it isn't surprising that those of us who are thus disenfranchised will not vote for continued taxation without representation.
 

Mara G (411)
Sunday March 30, 2008, 12:20 am
A 2 party system is a sham and always has been. Your correct Mark, and many countries do it just like us..we trained them how! I'm also not convinced that we even need a "President" [King] when most if not all have abused their power throughout US history. What are they good for, besides corruption? noted
 

Marian E (152)
Sunday March 30, 2008, 12:26 am

A+ for reading comprehension Mark. (I may need a remedial class.)
 

Carol L (190)
Sunday March 30, 2008, 12:51 pm
Noted.
 

Suzanne B (22)
Sunday March 30, 2008, 7:48 pm
Thank you, Mark. This issue is getting some of the attention it needs in order to do something about it!
 

Marty H (119)
Monday March 31, 2008, 12:22 am
Thanks Mark and noted! The article made a whole lot of sense to me anyway!
 
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