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For Obama, a Bigger Win Than for Kennedy, Nixon, Carter or Bush


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Barbara
- 2168 days ago - thenation.com
It wasn't even close. That's the unexpected result of the November 6 election. And President Obama and his supporters must wrap their heads around this new reality--just as their Republican rivals are going to have to adjust to it.



   

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Barbara W (342)
Wednesday November 7, 2012, 1:22 pm
Excerpt: " After a very long, very hard campaign that began the night of the 2010 “Republican wave” election, a campaign defined by unprecedented spending and take-no-prisoners debate strategies, Barack Obama was re-elected president.

And he did so with an ease that allowed him to claim what even his supporters dared not imagine until a little after 11 pm on the night of his last election: a credible, national win.

“We’re not as divided as our politics suggest,” Obama told the crowd at his victory party in Chicago.

And he was on to something.

Despite a brief delay by Republican challenger Mitt Romney, and the commentators on Fox News, Obama claimed his victory on election night not the next day, as Richard Nixon did in 1960, or even later, as George Bush in 2000.

And it was a real victory.

Obama did not have to deal with the challenge of an Electoral College win combined with a popular-vote loss—as even some of his most ardent supporters feared might be the case.

By the time Romney conceded at 1 am, Obama had a 250,000 popular-vote lead, and it grew to roughly 2 million by dawn.

He was on track to win a majority of states and more than 300 Electoral Votes—at least 303 and, with the right result in Florida, 332.

Obama’s win was bigger than John Kennedy’s in 1960 (303 electoral votes, popular vote margin of 112,827), bigger than Richard Nixon’s in 1968 (301 electoral votes, popular vote plurlaity of 512,000), bigger than Jimmy Carter’s in 1976 (297 electoral votes, popular vote margin of 1,683,247), bigger than George W. Bush’s in 2000 (271 electoral votes and a popular vote loss of 543,816).

Our friend Karl Rove attempted to suggest Tuesday night that Obama’s victory was diminished by the fact that the president did not improve on his 2008 numbers, and recalled that some presidents (Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton) have done so. But he failed to note how over the past century, many presidents have stumbled in their bids for second terms, including: George H.W. Bush (defeated in 1992), Jimmy Carter (defeated in 1976), Lyndon Johnson (decided not to seek re-election bid after 1968 primary setbacks), Harry Truman (decided not to seek re-election after 1952 primary setbacks), Herbert Hoover (defeated in 1932 re-election bid), Woodrow Wilson (won by narrower margin in 1916 than in 1912) and William Howard Taft (ran third in 1912 re-election bid).

Significantly, Rove’s man, George W. Bush won his 2004 re-election run with just 286 electoral votes, and faced serious challenges to the result in the state that put him across the 270 line: Ohio.

Never mind, Bush claimed a broad mandate." More at link..
 

Barbara W (342)
Wednesday November 7, 2012, 1:37 pm
Excerpt: " After a very long, very hard campaign that began the night of the 2010 “Republican wave” election, a campaign defined by unprecedented spending and take-no-prisoners debate strategies, Barack Obama was re-elected president.

And he did so with an ease that allowed him to claim what even his supporters dared not imagine until a little after 11 pm on the night of his last election: a credible, national win.

“We’re not as divided as our politics suggest,” Obama told the crowd at his victory party in Chicago.

And he was on to something.

Despite a brief delay by Republican challenger Mitt Romney, and the commentators on Fox News, Obama claimed his victory on election night not the next day, as Richard Nixon did in 1960, or even later, as George Bush in 2000.

And it was a real victory.

Obama did not have to deal with the challenge of an Electoral College win combined with a popular-vote loss—as even some of his most ardent supporters feared might be the case.

By the time Romney conceded at 1 am, Obama had a 250,000 popular-vote lead, and it grew to roughly 2 million by dawn.

He was on track to win a majority of states and more than 300 Electoral Votes—at least 303 and, with the right result in Florida, 332.

Obama’s win was bigger than John Kennedy’s in 1960 (303 electoral votes, popular vote margin of 112,827), bigger than Richard Nixon’s in 1968 (301 electoral votes, popular vote plurlaity of 512,000), bigger than Jimmy Carter’s in 1976 (297 electoral votes, popular vote margin of 1,683,247), bigger than George W. Bush’s in 2000 (271 electoral votes and a popular vote loss of 543,816).

Our friend Karl Rove attempted to suggest Tuesday night that Obama’s victory was diminished by the fact that the president did not improve on his 2008 numbers, and recalled that some presidents (Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton) have done so. But he failed to note how over the past century, many presidents have stumbled in their bids for second terms, including: George H.W. Bush (defeated in 1992), Jimmy Carter (defeated in 1976), Lyndon Johnson (decided not to seek re-election bid after 1968 primary setbacks), Harry Truman (decided not to seek re-election after 1952 primary setbacks), Herbert Hoover (defeated in 1932 re-election bid), Woodrow Wilson (won by narrower margin in 1916 than in 1912) and William Howard Taft (ran third in 1912 re-election bid).

Significantly, Rove’s man, George W. Bush won his 2004 re-election run with just 286 electoral votes, and faced serious challenges to the result in the state that put him across the 270 line: Ohio.

Never mind, Bush claimed a broad mandate." More at link..
 

Barbara W (342)
Wednesday November 7, 2012, 1:38 pm
Sorry for doubles..Was gone and now reappeared..
 

Barbara W (342)
Wednesday November 7, 2012, 1:57 pm
Obama Has A Mandate! And what a mandate it is!

I have to admit when I heard that this election between Romney and Obama was close I scratched my head because given the reality zone it just did not make sense..It had me wondering what American's were thinking given the 8 years under GWB and, the last 4 under Obama which was fraught with underhanded actions from the Republican party. More especially, the viciousness from Mitch McConnell, who from day one said he would work to make Obama a one turn President..

The Republicans did everything they could to obstruct any meaningful legislation that Obama and the democrats put forth.. Even certain members of Obama's party voted like obstructionist.

If ever a mandate was bestowed on a sitting President, this is The president, President Barack Hussein Obama, who's been gifted with a mandate that cannot be denied, not even by the Republican party!

Now onto for 4 more years so Obama can finish what he began when he said in 2008, "Change" We "ALL" can believe in!

Americans have stepped up to the plate. Now to begin hitting those homes-runs "We" so desperately miss.
 

Barbara W (342)
Wednesday November 7, 2012, 1:57 pm
"One Term"
 

Roseann d (178)
Wednesday November 7, 2012, 2:42 pm
Well Karl Rove....those presidents didn't have Citizens United to contend with usurping the playing field. So really...Obama achieved a bigger victory than the presidents mentioned, despite Citizens United. Way to Go!
 

Roseann d (178)
Wednesday November 7, 2012, 2:43 pm
Well Karl Rove....those presidents didn't have Citizens United to contend with usurping the playing field. So really...Obama achieved a bigger victory than the presidents mentioned, despite Citizens United. Way to Go!
 

Yvonne White (229)
Wednesday November 7, 2012, 3:11 pm
It's Christmas come early!:) And Progressives have Increased so that these left-over Bu$h Leaguer TeaParty Idiots better Kiss Our Backsides from now on! Oh, there's a typo though: Jimmy Carter didn't lose in 76, he got screwed over in 1980: "many presidents have stumbled in their bids for second terms, including: George H.W. Bush (defeated in 1992), Jimmy Carter (defeated in 1976), Lyndon Johnson (decided not to seek re-election bid after 1968 primary setbacks), Harry Truman (decided not to seek re-election after 1952 primary setbacks), Herbert Hoover (defeated in 1932 re-election bid), Woodrow Wilson (won by narrower margin in 1916 than in 1912) and William Howard Taft (ran third in 1912 re-election bid). "
 

Jak Crow (0)
Wednesday November 7, 2012, 5:22 pm
What's happen to all the rabid right wing topics that have been contaminating the site for the last month? Where did they all go?
 

Robert S (111)
Thursday November 8, 2012, 2:32 pm
Thank Barbara for this information. Having now lost badly, the winger spin machine is at full tilt, attempting to diminish the victory. These facts will be by some, as usual denied, but the truth is powerful and its on our side.

the Democratic senator who was supposed to
be the most endangered incumbent in the country not only won, she won by 16
points.

Republican Senator Scott Brown of Massachusetts, who was so stuffed
with hedge fund misunderstood that he burped credit default swaps -- Scott
Brown lost by a lot to the nation`s foremost authority on the economic
rights of the middle class.

After marriage rights for same-sex couples were voted down in state
after state after state for years, more than 30 times in a row, this year,
all change in Maine, they voted on marriage equality and they voted for it.

In Maryland, they voted on marriage equality and they voted for it.

In Minnesota, they were asked to vote against marriage equality, and
Minnesota refused to ban it.

In Washington state, the vote is not called yet. They are still
counting the vote and we will be watching it closely, but if you are on the
pro-gay right side in Washington state, it should be noted that it is
looking pretty good.

In Iowa, anti-gay activists were sure that they were going to turf out
a judge for ruling in favor of marriage equality. They had done it before,
to a bunch of other judges. They had been successful every time they had
tried before, but not this one, not this time. Judge Wiggins in Iowa keeps
his seat.

Nevada elects its first African-American congressman this year.

America gets our first openly gay United States senator.

America gets our first-ever Asian American woman senator from Hawaii.
Her seat in the House, I should note, gets filled by this woman, a
Democratic Iraq war veteran. I`m going to tell you right now that her name
is Tulsi Gabbard, because she is on the fast track to being very famous
some day. Tulsi Gabbard.

Speaking of Iraq war veterans, Tammy Duckworth, veteran helicopter
pilot, she lost both her legs in Iraq. She is going to Congress and she is
sending home the opponent who mocked her for her war record, Joe Walsh.

California relaxed its "three strikes you`re out" law and rejected a
law to cripple the power of unions.

Decriminalization of marijuana was approved in Washington and in
Colorado.

The astonishing tide of dark money spent against Democratic Senators
Jon Tester in Montana and Sherrod Brown in Ohio turned out to be pointless.
Both those Democratic senators won, they held on to their seats.

Democrats won a Senate seat in North Dakota, of all places, a seat
that nobody thought they could win.

All of these states that had this hugely aggressive total Republican
takeover from the 2010 elections, Ohio and Wisconsin, and Michigan, and
Pennsylvania and Virginia and Florida, all of those states that went so red
in state government in these past couple of years and that then had these
big fights inside their states over how Republicans were governing there.
In Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and we will see about
Florida, last night not only did Republicans lose the presidential election
in every single one of those states, Republicans lost the Senate race in
every single one of those states too -- Sherrod Brown, Tammy Baldwin,
Debbie Stabenow, Bob Casey, Tim Kaine, Bill Nelson. Depending on Florida,
a Democratic sweep of the presidency, and definitely a Democratic sweep of
the Senate race -- in those states that the GOP was so excited to have
supposedly turned red in a way that was going to stick.

Last night, Democratic women swept every major office in New
Hampshire. Last night, California Democrats won Democratic super majority
in the state House and in the state Senate. Not just majorities in
California, but super majorities. Wherein, if the Republicans don`t turn
up, any of them, any day at work, nothing will be different in California.
They`re completely legislatively irrelevant.

Allen West lost a seat.

More women got elected to the U.S. Senate than at any time in U.S.
history.

The Republican presidential nominee and vice presidential nominee both
lost their home states.

Missouri and Montana and West Virginia chose Democratic governors.
West Virginia chose its first gay state legislature. So did North Dakota.
West Virginia and North Dakota? Yes, seriously.

Joe Lieberman`s old seat went to a real Democrat in Connecticut.

The proportion of young people voting compared to 2008, it went up,
same with African-Americans, up from 2008. Same with Latinos, up from
2008, not down, up.

If you are a liberal or if you are rooting for the Democrats, last
night was a very, very, very big night.

And, oh, yes, this happened. President Barack Obama, yes, will go
down in history as our nation`s first African-American president. But he
will also go down in history as the most successful Democratic presidential
candidate since FDR.

President Clinton got re-elected too, I know, but only Barack Obama
got re-elected with not just big Electoral College margins, but also with
majority wins in the popular vote, twice.
R. Maddow
 

Sheryl G (360)
Thursday November 8, 2012, 2:58 pm
These statistics give me a better feeling that the the right hasn't got as much pull as thought. But still, I can't believe how many people still voted for Romney despite all the untruth's that came from his lips. I keep thinking how could any other Leader he'd be dealing with believe him or really knew where he stood or what he said was fact or that he'd stand behind his words. That leaves our Country in a very percarious place in the world let alone in our own Country.

Now I'd like to see the rest of the idiots be taken out of the House of Representatives, more Candidate like Alan Grayson taking some of the seats up. Bring in more of the Elizabeth Warrens to the Congress, to I hope move the Democrat Party back to a place I know it could be, working for the common people, instead of the Corporations.
 

Robert S (111)
Thursday November 8, 2012, 3:28 pm
You know your party is in trouble when someone says "the rape guy lost" and someone asks...."which one?".

The answer is...both.

Thanks Alec Baldwin
 

Barbara W (342)
Thursday November 8, 2012, 3:46 pm
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