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Tribes Reach Deal to Purchase Black Hills Sacred Site


Society & Culture  (tags: Pe'Sla, Black Hills, Purchase negotiations, Lastrealindians )

Angelika
- 2392 days ago - indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com
Details of the arrangement are still being negotiated. "We are greatly encouraged by the enormous outpouring of support to protect Pe' Sla and for the reigniting of our collective consciousness relating to sacred sites and the Black Hills--"...



   

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Angelika R (143)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 5:49 am
“When I saw that Pe’ Sla was at risk, I thought somebody should do something and I said that to myself for about two weeks. Then I thought I should probably do something,” said Chase Iron Eyes, an attorney, at a press conference held Saturday to announce the tribes’ purchase of Pe’ Sla.

What he did was write an article August 1 for LastRealIndians.com and his efforts snowballed from there. The website raised more than $300,000 to help with the purchase of the sacred site. Those funds were combined with $1.3 million put up by the Rosebud Sioux Tribe to make the purchase possible, though details of the arrangement are still being negotiated.

“We are greatly encouraged by the enormous outpouring of support to protect Pe’ Sla and for the reigniting of our collective consciousness relating to sacred sites and the Black Hills—Wamaka Ognaka y Cante (the Heart of Everything that is),” reads a press release at LastRealIndians.com. “To us, it is not about the amount of money we raised; it’s about the amount of energy shared by the world and the once in a lifetime unification of the Oceti Sakowin.”

“If we don’t start uniting and coming together as people then people are going to continue to walk all over us,” said Robin LeBeau, tribal councilwoman for the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe, at the press conference. “It doesn’t matter if we’re from Cheyenne River or if we’re from Arizona or from New York or our sisters and brothers from up in Canada.”

A rally will be held Wednesday, September 5 in Rapid City, South Dakota at 5 p.m. to celebrate the purchase of Pe’ Sla at the Memorial Park Band Shell.

Watch a video of speakers from Saturday’s press conference:

Read more:http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2012/09/04/tribes-reach-deal-to-purchase-black-hills-sacred-site-132613 http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2012/09/04/tribes-reach-deal-to-purchase-black-hills-sacred-site-132613#ixzz25bCWes32
 

Simone Duffin (1462)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 5:53 am

Thank you Angelika x
 

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 6:12 am

Excellent news! Thanks for posting, Angie.

(Cross-posted in groups)

 

Aletta Kraan (146)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 6:19 am
Great news , thanks !
 

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 6:20 am
 
Background information at Indian Country:  Pe' Sla
 
 
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 6:21 am
Thx for x posting, Carole, was going to ask you for it ;)
LILILILILI perhaps time to celebrate ? Do go to the http://rapidcityjournal.com/ site, they should have something about it, when I checked earlier didn't see any yet, though
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 6:25 am
I mean for more on that rally to be there in Rapid City.. YES, prayers DO WORK AND HELP
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 6:52 am
Thanks for sharing this great news!
 

Ben O (135)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 6:55 am
Good news! (for a change)
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 6:57 am
Thanks so much for sharing this wonderful news.
 

Michele DiGiorgi (320)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 7:57 am
Thank you ever so much Angelika sweetie ~ this is good news and I'm happy that you posted it!
Sharing...
In peace,
FreeSpirit
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 8:08 am

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Catherine Turley (192)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 8:50 am
fantastic. i was looking for an update the other day and couldn't find anything, so thanks angie..
 

divergent revolution (309)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 9:29 am
This coming together was the gift that I wanted to see...even more important than the need for the sacred hills,is the need for us to become ONE NATION,so that we can count on other tribes as our true family.
THANKS ANGELIKA,YOU HAVE MADE MY CENTURY WITH THIS WONDERFUL NEWS.
 

SuSanne P (193)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 10:20 am
Thank you from my Soul to awake TO THE BEST NEWS IN THE WORLD. I cannot explain the "Why" of my obsession with this urgent news since originally posted, but in my Heart I knew it would end this way. I am so proud of all my efforts, posting every bit of information ALL AROUND TOWN. Besides my donations, Many many many many donated as well. YOU HAVE MADE MY HEART SOAR...Bless you Angie, Dandelion, Zen, and EVERYONE who was involved, and did what they could... for humanity to survive.
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 10:42 am
tasunka, I am in no position to judge this but I would agree to "equally important ". My understanding so far is that Pe'Sla is considered sacred to ALL tribes. But true, this coming together of the Nations is probably rightfully called a "once in a lifetime unification of the Oceti Sakowin.” - and I would add even beyond the
Great Sioux Nation,- One heart one mind one universe-

 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 10:53 am
Don't thank ME folks, thank whom ever you pray to and thank the global community. I am however, thrilled to have brought these wonderful news first to some of you and naturally I do share the great joy.
Very similar to our sweet SuSanne, I too was and still am sort of "obsessed" with this matter, simply because of the obvious wrong done for centuries and because I greatly respect other peoples religious beliefs. What's sacred to them should be sacred to ALL.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 10:58 am
Indeed Susanne, it took many hands and hearts to make this possible on C2 and off C2 around the world. It has been an honor to have joined efforts with so many to make this possible to bring Pe Sla to the attention of the world and for such a wonderful outcome, thus far.

As I had said to two C2 members, that the National Geographic had done a wonderful piece concerning that area of the world, it takes time to do such extensive pieces, that didn't get going just when Pe Sla went up for sale, but yet it is at this time that the extensive article of National Geographic was released. It just so happens that at one of the Circle's I was giving a Talk to that two women from the United Nation were there. I saw how quickly so many around the world opened their hearts to make this possible that to me, it speaks of the true spirit of the hearts, and when that force and energy is working, much can be done in positive ways. When Spirit is working, these just so happens DO happen, it is the miraculous things we can see when many hearts are working as one for a positive outcome or our highest and best.

I would like to think that 2012 isn't the end of the world, but an end to old hateful, selfish and greedy ways, and a beginning of great healing. That for every end it is a new beginning to be more loving, respectful and spiritual to our brothers and sisters around this world, no matter in what form they take, with legs, wings, fins, roots, or paws, a better way for all of us to live in harmony and balance.

The hotlink to the newspaper that Angelika listed is:
Rapid City Journal
The National Geographic article is anyone would like to view it. Has many interactive sections on the side of the article too, so look around.
In The Shadow of Wounded Knee
 

Bob P (394)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 11:04 am
good news thanks
 

Jim Phillips (3247)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 11:12 am
Good news...

But, we all should not rest until the sacred lands are in possession of the Indians forever!

Ty, Angelika.
.
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 11:36 am
let's give standing ovations to our sweet Sheryl and thank her for these wonderful words!
Thx also for posting those links here again, I missed your thread on it Sheryl, but have seen the NG article on it after I read about it on LRI I believe. Yes indeed, "all good things happen if you continue to pray about it and do things with a good heart”(Robin LeBeau)

 

Barbara W (342)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 12:21 pm
Those of US who have been praying, working in some small way towards this issue wait with bated breath till it becomes finalized. I can't help but agree with Jim "But, we all should not rest until the sacred lands are in possession of the Indians forever! "

I am also mindful of the Peltier issue, as are many of you, and I am still praying that Leonard will be freed by this administration and feel the sun on his face as a free Man. Thank you Angelikan.

This issue of the American tribes has to be finally recognized as the important issue it is. Going back in history, this nations leaders have caused unreasonable tribulations on these tribes. It's time that the ancestors of these many tribes see justice that's too long been denied them.
 

Terry King (113)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 12:23 pm
Good news... Best wishes for all involved!
 

Lynn Squance (235)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 12:47 pm
Another piece of the jigsaw puzzle that is life is put in its rightful and true place! When we honour one, we honour all. Namasté
 

Terrie Williams (798)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 1:01 pm
Thank Dawg!!!!!!!! Now,m it can NEVER, EVER be taken away.
 

Richard Smith (81)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 1:12 pm
ndae' yawahstih , a'wayatontara' :-)
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 2:02 pm
The news brings a sigh of relief !!! Scared land is not just land but a spiritual place of honor. The beauty of Natives is we don't take what isn't ours and we don't ask anything of others that we don't ask of ourselves.
" Let us put our minds together and see what kind of life we can
make for our children. "
~Sitting Bull~
 

Sandi C (97)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 2:30 pm
Wonderful news, Thanks Angie!
 

Barbara K (61)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 3:19 pm
Wow! Great news, and they can never lose the land. Thanks for the forward, Dandelion. Love to get good news.
 

Kit B (276)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 3:25 pm

This really is great news, though I got a letter about this at least a week or so back, I couldn't find an Internet source to share what I had learned. I'm so glad you posted this Angelika, for all of those who donated and supported this, we have great comfort in knowing that this one cause where the under-dog wins.
 

Daniel Partlow (179)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 3:31 pm
Fantastic news. Glad this happened!
 

Edwin M (346)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 3:43 pm
excellent news thank you
 

Devon Leonard (54)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 3:48 pm
My heart feels so much better hearing this good news...........May the abundant joy of this create a springboard for many to live their dreams while helping and inspiring others to live their best life...! May many Blessings come from this.........
Thank you Angelika !
 

Linda MacRae (39)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 3:50 pm
GREAT NEWS and so pleased this is happening!
 

. (0)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 3:51 pm
EXCELLENT NEWS..Sometimes justice prevails...Thanks for the post Angelika and dandelion for the fwd.
 

Vicky P (476)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 3:52 pm
that's great, I'm glad they resolved it
 

Mary Robert (2)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 3:54 pm
This is wonderful news.
 

Joe R (190)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 4:01 pm
So happy. This site could not be in better hands to protect it for all time!
 

Glenn Byrnes (197)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 4:04 pm
Noted.
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 4:18 pm
Thank you all for your comments, stars have been sent where I could, sorry that I'm out for some of you.
Thx for noting and getting this to the front page! I know how good it feels to note and comment on some good news stories, which unfortunately happens way too rarely.
We must keep in mind though that this deal is not final until the purchase has been officially announced by the Oceti Sakowin themselves. However, the celebration rally happening tonight at Rapid City was initiated by the LPLP (Lakota People's Law Project) who state on their FB page " breaking news: the tribes have won the purchase of Pe' Sla! Our event this Wednesday in Rapid City will be a celebration!"
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 4:24 pm
And the donation campaign is still on for the last three (3 !!) days,- hurry if you have not yet given your spare buck donations
 

. (0)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 4:25 pm
So glad. It is important for the Indians, but also for all of us to see these beautiful old symbols of faith shared by an ecumenical world before the Great Flood. Who cannot meditate on this place and see the hand of God?
 

Richard Smith (81)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 4:55 pm
Angelika,
yeah, ok,
the Wyandot language translation into english from my post..
ndae' yawahstih
(that) (it's wonderful)
a'wayatontara' ( it makes me to be happy/glad)
a'-way- atontar(e) -a- '
(its a fact) (me) (happiness) (gladness) ( it causes) (punctual)
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 5:09 pm
thanks Richard! And with that I am now off to bed, hight time, past 2 am here
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 5:11 pm
Thank you.
 

Pat B (356)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 5:15 pm
This is INDEED, Wonderful News.!!!!! Thank you so much for passing this on to us all, and Blessings to the Nation in attaining their Sacred Grounds. Thank you to ALL who got the news out, and worked on this, so that it is successful for future generations. WOO HOO! Thanks Angelika for this post.!!! ;-)
 

Evelyn Z (300)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 5:26 pm
Great News. Thanks
 

Darlene W (289)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 5:32 pm
Totally awesome news. The land should be left where it belongs. May the spirits be with all who have aided this cause.
 

Barb K (1687)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 5:39 pm
Prayers are answered!! Thank you Sheryl for the fwd and Angelika for the post!!
 

Christeen A (302)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 5:55 pm
Yea. Great news. Thanks for sharing.
 

Rock H (254)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 6:13 pm
Thanks for the great news Angelikan!
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 6:55 pm
Having to purchase what was stolen by thieves is so outrageous. I wish for an alternative to this money-based society that steals life.
 

Joy M (168)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 7:10 pm
Thank you, great news..
 

Phillipa W (199)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 7:13 pm
While this is a huge relief, I agree with Yvette T. I still have hopes that the entire area can be returned
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 7:50 pm
Feel like we all had a little bit to do with this, maybe.
Keep on keepin' on!
 

Gysele van Santen (213)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 8:52 pm
noted. thnx for the fwd Sheryl
 

Edith B (146)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 8:58 pm
Thanks for the good news. Thank you,Sheryl, for sending me the first link.
 

Michael Barth (43)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 9:16 pm
Thanks for sharing the excellent news.
 

LaurenBackSoon Kozen (173)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 9:26 pm
Great News! Thanks.
 

Sue L (72)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 9:36 pm
I am so happy to read this wonderful news!!!
 

DaleLovesOttawa O (198)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 9:37 pm
Fabulous news, the only regretful thing is that this land is not being returned freely and with honour. Having to have to purchase what was once theirs seems a terrible injustice.
 

Susanne R (236)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 10:57 pm
Wonderful news! Thank you so much for sharing it, Anjelika!
 

Giana Peranio - Paz (398)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 11:30 pm
This is great news! Really wonderful!! I am so happy! Even though money had to be raised for it and it wasn't returned to its rightful owner because he is the rightful owner!
 

Jae A (316)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 12:34 am
Fantastic ! Dale Overall, right on...!...but fact is....it's been the way for the Indian Nation for...well a century plus decades.
 

Henriette Matthijssen (154)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 12:39 am
Wonderful news! Thanks Angie.
 

Gillian M (218)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 12:55 am
To me this is a no brainer. The government makes such a fuss about the rights of other religions yet continue to trample all over the Native Americans. This land should have been returned to them as part of the broken treaties as well as the outstanding compensations paid.

In fact, in the 1868 treaty, signed at Fort Laramie and other military posts in Sioux country, the United States recognized the Black Hills as part of the Great Sioux Reservation, set aside for exclusive use by the Sioux people. However, after the discovery of gold there in 1874, the United States confiscated the land in 1877 (gosh, what a surprise). http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/american_originals/sioux.html

I doubt that the compensation will be paid or, if it is, it wll be a few cents on the dollar. Broken word after broken word especially after all the promises that Obama made this time around.

 

SuSanne P (193)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 12:55 am
i wish to send STARS of *APPRECIATION* to each and all of you,l but had a difficult day and don't have one second of Energy. Standing Ovation to Dandelion is an AWESOME idea, and I thank you dearly for the acknowledgement as you know how much this means to me, my DEER*HEART mentor, Thank you Angie for acknowledging me as well and sharing "our" similar feelings. Angie and and EACH AND ALL of you who contributed, if only by noting...CONGRATS to us ALL knowing how IMPORTANT THIS IS, and making horrific history, as well as wrongs MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. l will fast for the entire month, as every dollar I have in my account is being contributed tomorrow. My Spirit is no longer shattered. As I am a humble servant with the knowledge of those whom KNOW~ I couldn't be more inspired to spend all my life educating myself as it is my Heart,Soul and Spirit's quest.
As I have yet to read EVERY link, I am quite confused. Angie, please explain THIS IS TRUE, or if I've misunderstood itt (as usual)

#Angie-
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 4:18 pm
Thank you all for your comments, stars have been sent where I could, sorry that I'm out for some of you.
as "we all" know that such HORRORS need to be Righted! You have taught me so much that my Spirit reconfirms what I have always sought!
CONGRATS FOR SO QUICKLY MAKING THIS FRONT PAGE!~ TO ALL OF YOU! We must keep in mind though that this deal is not final until the purchase has been officially announced by the Oceti Sakowin themselves. However, the celebration rally happening tonight at Rapid City was initiated by the LPLP (Lakota People's Law Project) who state on their FB page
" breaking news: the tribes have won the purchase of Pe' Sla! Our event this Wednesday in Rapid City will be a celebration!"----PLEASE tell me US THIS IS TRUE.(or please send me a message)

PLEASE EXCUSE THE INSANITY OF MY WRITING...JUST GOT OUT OF HOSPITAL, AND AM VERY DOPED UP.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 1:10 am
Hvala na izvrsnim vjestima,
 

Elsie Au (259)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 1:25 am
Thanks for the update. This is the first good news I have in days :)
 

AWAY AWHILE Cal Mendelsohn (1065)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 3:56 am
Really happy and grateful that this victory was achieved. Thanks to everyone here at Care2 and elsewhere who made this historic purchase a reality. Activism really can and does work when enough individuals come together with a common goal!
 

Arild Gone for now (174)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 3:58 am
Thanks for the great news Angelika,it's good to see that our collective efforts resulted.Also thanks to Sheryl for the FW.
 

wendy webber (28)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 4:01 am
Great news.This simply reinforces my belief that together we can do many great things.To preserve a place of such historic and spiritual relevance does my heart good.Where there is breath, there is hope.
 

Maria S (95)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 5:21 am
Thanks for the great news.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 6:08 am
Ajla said: Thank you for the excellent the news
 

paul m (93)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 6:18 am


To purchase ?...This should be given and protected for and by the Indians ..after all, it is American History,,
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 6:38 am
very true Paul, but tell this to the govt., only THEY could arrange that for the tribes. After all the initiator of the donation campaign, (lawyer) Chase Iron Eyes stated that "Yet we are trying to work within the current U.S. laws to regain custody of our sacred sites (although we also believe that the land cannot be owned and that our sacred places were illegally taken by the United States)"
Current US laws so happen to make the Reynolds family the legal owner of that land.
Please sign the related petitions and donate what you can, if you have not already done so, thank you! Time is running out...
 

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 6:56 am

Yes, Paul, I thought the same thing at first.

But, I agree with their decision. After centuries of broken treaties, and with time being of the essence, I'm sure they felt the only thing that would protect their right to the land (although they really don't morally accept that anyone can "own" land) would be to take immediate action within the legal system.

 

Sheryl G (359)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 7:10 am
Indeed there is the reality that the tribal Nations must deal with. We and they may know that the treaty was broken, that what in the past was done and not correct or right on many levels, so on and so forth, but meanwhile the land was up for sale and it would of slipped away to other humans, who may not have had any appreciation to the importance of the area other than their own individual goals of development.

We can debate what could of, should of, would of, till the cows come home, it would not of changed the fact the land was slipping away and could of been turned into golf coarses and ranchettes. So they had to seize the moment and opportunity as it was and work with it the best one can, as was stated, "within current US laws". I think that the best was done under the given circumstances.

Please so that they do not have to have a high mortgage for this land, donations are still gratefully accepted. These people are not financially well off as a Nation of people, so any help that can still be given will be gratefully received.
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OR......
Donate Via Rosebud Sioux Link
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For those who wish to use regular postal mail to send a check or money order these two addresses can be used.

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Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 7:31 am
Ruth Hopkins posted an announcement 10 minutes ago

Pe’ Sla is not safe yet. Rosebud only succeeded in buying a place at the negotiation table. Fundraising ends September 8. Please continue to support our fundraising effort to save Pe’ Sla.
!!!!!
 

Mitchell D (82)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 7:38 am
This, if it goes through, will be one step toward redressing the harm done to Native Americans by this country.
One sometimes see idiotic tee shirts on people, referring to "Homeland Security, since 1492," with the usual jingoistic flag flying. The ONLY people involved in homeland security in 1492 would have been the native Americans!
 

Patricia Cannell (825)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 8:10 am
Thanks for the positive article! Noted.
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 8:12 am
More latest news here > Unity rally draws support for Pe Sla purchase
As stated from Ruth Hopkins' update the article cites Chase Iron Eyes:""The battle wasn't won, they couldn't declare victory, but at least we purchased a seat at the negotiating table," Iron Eyes said.
Now, tribal leaders say they are negotiating a purchase agreement for the land but can't disclose an exact dollar figure. They hope to close on the deal by Nov. 30.
 

TomCat S (128)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 8:29 am
Wonderful news!
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 8:31 am
Great news, though they should never have had to buy the land back in the first place! It was always their's!
 

Sheryl G (359)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 8:49 am
This is why in my comment of Wednesday September 5, 2012, 10:58 am.......I ended the first paragraph with the words "thus far." Knowing that this wasn't a done deal. Is why donations are still needed. The more they have to show up at the table with, the better.

For those who pray, keep those prayers going, and please if you haven't let others know of this, let them know to give them the opportunity to help as well. Wouldn't it be a good feeling for as many as possible to have knowledge they too were part of this historic event.

 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 9:02 am
We also must remember that a considerable amount from the total reached in donation will go into several fees for Indiegogo, 9% of the sum only for not reaching the goal, plus more % for 3rd party fees!
I wonder if LRI is able to extend the deadline a 2nd time as they have done it already once despite the rules say no changing after campaign start....
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 9:11 am
I think it was quite premature or even irresponsible of the Lakota People's Law Project to post this on their FB page:
Lakota People's Law Project
Monday
Dear friends, breaking news: the tribes have won the purchase of Pe' Sla! Our event this Wednesday in Rapid City will be a celebration! Please LIKE and SHARE this post to spread the word...And join us Wednesday!

The poster image along with it (same image as I used with this post here) reads:
WOPILAS TO CELEBRATE THE RETURN OF PE'SLA ---
 

Sheryl G (359)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 9:25 am
I agree, was very misleading. I had also noticed a slowing of the donations when the land was simply taken off the auction block. For many people, in their mind, it was like, oh, so it's over. It was far from over and far from having accomplished what all of this was about. I think, in our age of instant everything, we need to think before we put on information that might be misleading or confusing to others who are not party to all of the information that is taking place.

Those closest to the source of what is happening in that part of the Country should not release information until it is verifiable and is certain, a done deal. I understand about wanting to keep people in the loop, but sometimes if it isn't clear, it only adds confusion or muds the waters.
 

Sandra M Z (114)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 9:48 am
Hopefully "buying a seat at the table", was not literal.......and that it only meant they had enough to be players in the arena.

It would be good of "Indiegogo" to donate or reduce the fees in a goodwill gesture:)

I had spoke to a friend that lives near there about it yesterday, and he had not even heard of the land sale. I told him they had purchased it, I thought they had. Now it sounds it is Nov.? I will put good energy out there that is goes their way at that time.

Noted, Thank you Angelikanomail and Dandelion.
 

Martin Koolstra (6)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 9:51 am
great news but I agree with Richard J. that it was theirs always. I hope there won't be anything to put a glitch in the deal.
 

Kerstin Strobl (123)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 10:02 am
good news, thank you Angelika
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 10:09 am
Sandra M Z:"It would be good of "Indiegogo" to donate or reduce the fees in a goodwill gesture:) "- what a great idea, wish they would but doubt it. Yet I will use your sentence to post in the comments on that site.
It probably means what you suggest, but I was hoping there would be no more "arena" in the first place.
It would be also great if you could put good energy out to inform that friend once more and ask him to get the word out, if not donate?! 62 HOURS LEFT ...Thank you Sandra.
 

. (0)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 2:01 pm
The real tragedy is they have to pay for land that was taken away from them.
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 2:20 pm
Yes Allan, but we cannot reverse this tragedy, what we can, though, is help them pay to buy it back.
 

James merritt jr (144)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 4:03 pm
Thank you.
 

Susan V (80)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 5:35 pm
Hey all, I've updated my petition to reflect this good news. I know most of you have signed, but if not, please consider, and also please consider donating a dollar or more to help the tribes buy the land free and clear. The petition has been sent to Congressional reps and to President Obama, along with the Dept of the Interior, asking the gov't to make up any monies the tribes don't raise.

Thanks and please help keep this story alive until the land is returned, with no debt owed by the tribes.

 

Ruth R (246)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 9:21 pm
Noted: Glad that they got to get their land.
 

Mary T (178)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 11:18 pm
Thanks so much for the update, I do pray that they get to keep their land.
 

Ester Hellen (213)
Friday September 7, 2012, 12:16 am
Thank you Jim for the forward on this good news.
Have a great weekend all Good Share
 

Past Member (0)
Friday September 7, 2012, 1:58 am
Thanks for the update.
 

Patricia E G (52)
Friday September 7, 2012, 2:03 am
Thank you Sheryl for the update
& thank you Angie for your input.
I am happy to give my support to this grim situation
being that the Lakota need all the support they can get.
I firmly believe the righteous will shall overcome and
the Black Hills shall remain sacred ground infinitely.
 

MarietteAWAY G (175)
Friday September 7, 2012, 3:03 am
Great news! Thanks for sharing Angelika and Sheryl!
 

Past Member (0)
Friday September 7, 2012, 3:09 am
That is absolutely fantastic news :)
 

Carol H (229)
Friday September 7, 2012, 4:09 am
great news, thank you Ruth for the forward!
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 7, 2012, 4:52 am
I've had an incredible amount of notes and comments here for which I thank each and everyone of you!
Special thanks to those of you who I know are predominantly activ on animal rights and welfare causes, thanks for recognising that this land in Sioux care is best for the wildlife and all living there as well!

Very pleased to see that the donations have increased by several hundred donors and $ within a short time, now that the countdown is on with just 43 hours left.
If you can make a second donation no matter how small, please do!
donate
 

P A (117)
Friday September 7, 2012, 4:57 am
The land has not yet been saved - they still need more donations according to Dandelion and Angelika...

"Dandelioni G Thursday September 6, 2012, 9:25 am
I agree, was very misleading. I had also noticed a slowing of the donations when the land was simply taken off the auction block. For many people, in their mind, it was like, oh, so it's over. It was far from over and far from having accomplished what all of this was about. I think, in our age of instant everything, we need to think before we put on information that might be misleading or confusing to others who are not party to all of the information that is taking place.

Those closest to the source of what is happening in that part of the Country should not release information until it is verifiable and is certain, a done deal. I understand about wanting to keep people in the loop, but sometimes if it isn't clear, it only adds confusion or muds the waters. "

Angelika wrote on Thuraday 6 September at 10.09 am "....It would be also great if you could put good energy out to inform that friend once more and ask him to get the word out, if not donate?! 62 HOURS LEFT ....."



 

Cynthia Davis (340)
Friday September 7, 2012, 8:43 am
I am so glad to here this good news TY Angelikan
 

Past Member (0)
Friday September 7, 2012, 9:35 am
Hopefully, this will all work out. Never underestimate the government's ability to interfere in First Nations' issues.
 

PANDA B (79)
Friday September 7, 2012, 9:46 am
thanks, hopefully the rightful owners will get their rightful land......very sad how we have historically treated the true first citizens of this land.....
 

DORIS L (61)
Friday September 7, 2012, 9:59 am
This is good to hear.
 

. (0)
Friday September 7, 2012, 10:05 am
great upgrade as beautiful news - ty Angelikan and Ruth for fw
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 7, 2012, 10:19 am
@ Brian - in this case I wish the govt WOULD INTERFERE, in a POSITIV way, as demanded with numerous petitions for this matter. TheTribal Platform newly released by the Dems is a good step for a start. But it only needs to be ACTED, not just written.

@Dave - , yes indeed and that pertains to us Europeans in first place, is why I am so engaged in this issue.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday September 7, 2012, 10:22 am
The American government has never kept its treaty promises and has a long history of doing the wrong thing. It will take a long road of positive action to overcome that legacy.
 

Caitlin M (104)
Friday September 7, 2012, 11:00 am
I think Paul M. has a good point about the site being part of American history and so America should have preserved the site. But on the other hand, I'd hate to have a sacred site be opened for tourists with gift shanties, etc. I hope the site remains as the tribe wants it.
 

Donna B (36)
Friday September 7, 2012, 12:39 pm
Oh Thank You SO Much for sharing this Wonderful News!! This is great and just made my day!!
 

Sheryl G (359)
Friday September 7, 2012, 1:00 pm
Exactly, we already have that in the section with the 4 heads carved into stone, that is also in the Black Hills.

The theft of the Black Hills from the Sioux has been widely reported by both historians and the popular media. The theft, however, involved more than just taking the land: it also involved renaming it. All of the geographic features within the Black Hills had Indian names in 1877, but over the next couple of decades these names were replaced by non-Indian names.

In 1884, New York City attorney Charles E. Rushmore came to the Black Hills to check on legal titles to some properties. On coming back to camp one day, he asked Bill Challis about the name of a mountain. Bill is reported to have replied:

"Never had a name but from now on we'll call it Rushmore."

With that offhand comment, the mountain known to the Sioux as Six Grandfathers became Mount Rushmore. The Sioux name had been an important part of their oral tradition and their association with the land. The new name reflected the American lack of concern for the history of the land and the importance of attorneys in their society.

I ask, has anything changed?

It gets better (sarcasm)........read on......

The wealth generated from the gold and the cattle in the Black Hills was not enough to satisfy American greed. By the 1920s, people were looking for new ways of exploiting the Black Hills.

In other parts of the country, tourism was proving to be an economic asset, and so, in 1923, Doane Robinson, the South Dakota state historian, came up with an idea to bring tourists (and their money) into the state. His idea was to commission a sculptor to transform one of the tall narrow, granite rock formations in the Black Hills into memorials of major figures from the American West.

Sculptor Gutzon Borglum, the son of Danish Mormon immigrants was hired to carve these faces into the mountain. Borglum had been involved with the carving of a massive bas-relief monument to the heroes of the Confederacy at Stone Mountain, Georgia. Borglum was a member of the Ku Klux Klan and Stone Mountain was used as a site to revitalize the Klan.

See people, history repeating itself, another Mormon on the horizon, and with all this hatred talk against minorities, women, gays, and the old South is raising it's head again. The southern Republican Christians of today may speak of not wanting to do a dance with a Republican Mormon, but their ties go way back.

In 1970, a group of about 20 Sioux from the Pine Ridge Reservation asked to conduct a prayer vigil at the amphitheater at Mount Rushmore. The request was granted. The group explained to tourists and the news media that they had come to protest the failure of the United States to return land taken from the Pine Ridge Reservation for a gunnery range during World War II. They pointed out that Mount Rushmore, a part of the Black Hills, had been illegally taken from them a century earlier.

By the end of the twentieth century, there was no doubt that Mount Rushmore was a successful tourist attraction. The non-Indian businesses in the area was earning about $100 million annually.

And for all of you who state that this area called Pe Sla should be returned or bought by the Government. Yes, it should be no it won't and the Federal Govt. makes $100 annually, on stolen land, so it most certainly has been well compensated for it's thieft, over and over and over again.

All the while........

Just 60 miles east of the monument, the Pine Ridge Reservation, home to many of the Sioux who had been the aboriginal owners, is one of the poorest areas in the United States with an unemployment rate of about 80%.

If you are a US citizen this is all continued, in your name, and as few speak out, it is assumed with your blessing.

So I thank those of you who took some time, a few of your dollars to try, to at least begin, to say, I know this is wrong, I'm trying to help, to heal, to help change things.

Until some healing is done, some correction is made, the heart of this Nation is broken. What you see playing out around this Country and causing much suffering, not to just the Indian people, but to so many others, is because many people have lost what it means to hold certain things Sacred. The Black Hills has never been forgotten by some people, it's sacredness, and an understanding of what is most important.






 

Rosie Lopez (73)
Friday September 7, 2012, 1:20 pm
wonderful thanks for sharing!
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 7, 2012, 1:52 pm
Dear Sheryl, again, thanks a million for your ever educational and dedicated input, from the heart.
I just remembered Sue L. recently telling us about that exhibition in her home town (The US-Dakota War of 1862 at the MHC), so I also emailed that Minnesota History Center to get the word out and asked for help, both the Avaaz petit. and fundraising campaign.
After I had spotted some female donor named Hagerty on the donation site, I sent another message to Hagerty's Smoothfeather Production, hope that might help in this final race now with only few hours left.
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 7, 2012, 2:55 pm
Detailed press article update here:
Sioux tribes progress in purchase effort

So it is clear they have until Nov 30 to raise $$. REMINIDER:

After the indiegogo campaign has ended people can still continue to donate to the Rosebud website.
Maybe Lastrealindians will also maintain some donation campaign on their website, let's wait and see.
 

James Maynard (84)
Friday September 7, 2012, 3:08 pm
Very good news. Thank you.
(and noted!)
 

Sheryl G (359)
Friday September 7, 2012, 3:22 pm
DONATIONS ARE STILL NEEDED!

IF YOU CAN'T.....FORWARD THIS TO SOMEONE WHO CAN.....GIVE SOMEONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD TO THIS....AND RECEIVE THE BLESSING BACK THAT THEY HELPED IN THIS IMPORTANT CAUSE.

ROSEBUD SIOUX SITE.....Is where I had made my donation.
ROSEBUD SIOUX DONATION LINK

In addition to emphasizing ongoing fundraising needs, speakers at the event trumpted the necessity that the tribes themselves remain united as they proceed in the land acquisition. Robin Lebeau said, “Something historic has happened. We have united as the Lakota, Dakota, and Nakota people when some said that we wouldn’t come together… I’m asking you [fellow tribal members] to call your presidents, your chairmen, your spiritual leaders, your treaty groups. We have to keep working to come together for Pe’ Sla.”


 

Waltraud U (85)
Friday September 7, 2012, 3:26 pm
NOTED TY
 

Erin Walden (16)
Friday September 7, 2012, 4:34 pm
I am glad the land will be with those who belong to it, but saddens me that they had to purchase what was theirs to begin with. They do not own the land, they are the land.
 

Dogan Ozkan (5)
Friday September 7, 2012, 5:40 pm
noted thank you
 

Nicole W (646)
Friday September 7, 2012, 6:03 pm
good news, thank you Ruth for the forward and Angelika for the post!
 

Past Member (0)
Friday September 7, 2012, 6:36 pm
its good news for these people.
 

Christine Stewart (134)
Friday September 7, 2012, 9:15 pm
Noted!
 

jo M. (3)
Friday September 7, 2012, 11:01 pm
Glad to see that the Sioux are able to buy back an area they consider sacred. Are they going to share it with the tribes that they took it from?
 

SoundsLikePeace Man (30)
Friday September 7, 2012, 11:05 pm

IT IS NOT SAFE YET!

They posted this one day ago:
"Pe’ Sla is not safe yet. Rosebud only succeeded in buying a place at the negotiation table. Fundraising ends September 8. Please continue to support our fundraising effort to save Pe’ Sla."

Please go to indiegogo.com/PeSla-LakotaHeartland
 

Nimue Michelle Pendragon Gaze (339)
Friday September 7, 2012, 11:16 pm
Thank you, SoundsLikePeace, for the update.
 

Shelly Peterson (213)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 12:03 am
Posted on Facebook
 

Angelika R (143)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 12:47 am
Exactly, SoundsLikePeace, thanks for repeating what I and Dandelion already posted above-wish people would always read the entire thread, or most of it at least.
The donations must continue and please keep getting the word out! The Sioux have until Nov. 30 to raise all the monies needed, so far they just secured the purchase with a down payment.
 

Rose Becke (141)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 12:49 am
WONDERFUL NEWS
 

christina t (22)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 4:17 am
Ssusan V. mentions a petition: "The petition has been sent to Congressional reps and to President Obama, along with the Dept of the Interior, asking the gov't to make up any monies the tribes don't raise.
Is this petition still open and if so where is the link?
Glad to hear the good new but it is only a start.
 

christina t (22)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 4:32 am
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/564/165/021/give-the-black-hills-back-to-the-sioux/#next_action
Here is the link I just asked about for anyone who hasn't signed.I hope the link works.
 

christina t (22)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 4:38 am
Ok so the link does not work but if you type in "give the black hills back to the sioux" it will take you to the page.
 

Angelika R (143)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 4:40 am
Christina t. thx for asking and finding that petition, here's the hyperlink again, it is still open, yes.

Susan V.'s petition Give Black Hills back to Lakota Sioux
 

Angelika R (143)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 4:45 am
for all those who have not yet signed, please also do so at the
AVAAZ petition
 

christina t (22)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 4:55 am
Thank you Angelika I have now signed and reposted both petitions on FB.
 

Bonita Annis (20)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 5:53 am
Signed/shared...noted....this article lightened the load in my heart today...the battle may not be over, but I encourages me at the number of folks who consider it their battle too!
 

Angelika R (143)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 6:19 am
thanks Bonita, well said! Please also post the donation link to FB so people can give, even if just 1$, before the deadline.
 

SuSanne P (193)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 6:36 am
I apologize for sounding so crazy in my last post. I have not been online until this moment, and am saddened to hear what I misunderstood, by Angies " breaking news: the tribes have won the purchase of Pe' Sla!" I have learned much and am grateful, although sad. I will read as much as possible this weekend, and promise to get back to those whom have sent me so much LOVE.
 

Angelika R (143)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 6:44 am
UPDATE please inform yourselves here Latest news article on Pe'Sla purchase efforts

"Not out of the woods yet"-
The down payment, according to White Plume, has not yet sealed the deal.
“The remainder of the purchase price still has to be paid to the Reynolds family, which is IN ABOUT 21 DAYS or so,” said White Plume. “So LRI is still raising funds to pitch in with the tribes. Until that final amount of money is paid in full, the land has not been returned to the Lakota people.

Somewhat confusing to me now... after it said before that they had until Nov 30 to pay in full...-?

 

Sheryl G (359)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 7:19 am
Again, is why they need to wait before they post things so that it isn't confusing. Also how one person writes may make sense to them but not to the people reading it. Obviously the more funds collected the assuridty that it will go to them increases and will be financially easier on them. $1 from a lot of people is not so much but a few poor Indians trying to raise a million is extremely difficult. Think of how many places people toss a dollar and see little good come out of it.
 

Angelika R (143)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 8:09 am
Sheryl, I saw Sara had also left a comment to that particular post on the LPLP's FB page expressing her strong dislike of such premature and misleading release. It's even less comprehensible after learning that this rally event was done by both in cocoperation, LRI and LPLP. Anyway, update yourselves please from above link.
I do expect the indiegogo campaign getting extended for those additional 2 weeks ("in 21 days or so.." as the article says) so hopefully we all gain a bit more time for fundraising.
And after that reaches the deadline I trust the LRI website will host another donation link so $ can keep coming in until Nov 30 or whenever.. We should have another update from LRI any day I guess.
 

Angeles Madrazo (298)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 8:39 am
Good news! Thank you!!
 

Sue L (72)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 10:55 am
Thank you Angelika and Dandelion for the continued updates. I had thought that all was well but I now understand that continued financial support is still needed. Thanks for writing to the Minnesota History Center Angelika. The more we can spread the word the better it will be.
 

Diane B (275)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 11:31 am
Thanks Angelica and Dandelion
 

Angelika R (143)
Saturday September 8, 2012, 11:32 am
Sue, thx for revisiting here. (when I do my daily click for tarahumara children hospital I always think of you ;-) since you pointed to that cause long ago)
Sending a Green Star is a simple way to say "Thank you"
You cannot currently send a star to Sue because you have done so within the last week.
 

Jana Repova (65)
Sunday September 9, 2012, 12:52 am
Noted. Thank you.
 

Brenda Towers (0)
Sunday September 9, 2012, 10:58 am
Good Luck!
 

Susan T (14)
Sunday September 9, 2012, 1:02 pm
Noted:
With donation and prayers.
 

Angelika R (143)
Sunday September 9, 2012, 1:08 pm
Thx Susan T.-woud have sent you a star, but am getting repeatedly : "The profile you are looking for could not be found "- :-//
Wonder if you donated to the Rosebud S T site as the indiegogo campaign has ended on Saturday.
 

Denise Lytle (503)
Monday September 10, 2012, 7:34 pm
EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 2:39 pm
For the latest please read PeSla : Reynolds agree to $9M from tribes
This offer by the Great Sioux Nation was accepted.
RST, serving as a representative for the group of Lakota/Nakota/Dakota tribes involved in the purchase process has until November 30 to pay the remaining $8.1 million.


 

Carol Dreeszen (346)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 4:28 pm
This is great! I am glad it ended up the way it did! Thanks for the forward SuS!!!
 

Lois Jordan (63)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 6:05 pm
Noted. Thanks for the link, Dandelion....am reading the updates. Thanks for posting, Angelikanomail.
 

Victoria S (19)
Thursday September 20, 2012, 4:39 am
Thanks for sharing this is amazing news. I signed a petition for this ages ago, I'm glad it worked :-)
 

Emma S (239)
Monday September 24, 2012, 12:52 am
Promising start... Thanks for sharing.
 

Deborah F (2)
Thursday September 27, 2012, 9:52 am
noted
 
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