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In the United States, Holocaust Remembrance Day is a day that has been set aside for remembering the victims of the Holocaust and for reminding Americans what can happen to civilized people when bigotry, hatred, and indifference go unchecked


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MmAway M (520)
Friday April 9, 2010, 7:03 pm
Thank you Cal for this...

We must never forget!!!

I will never forget my relatives being kinda rednecks and while I was going to a Lutheran Private School I was always open to ideas (WHERE DID THAT COME FROM FROM ONE AT AGE 6???)

Always open to ideas but, being brought up in the 1950's bigotry, hatred etc was really there...lucky for me, I had a TON of great teachers to teach me the GIFT OF PEOPLE AND LIFE!

Thank you so much for this article!

We must NEVER FORGET...sadly, it isn't even taught in schools anymore!

Stan B (123)
Friday April 9, 2010, 9:09 pm
You are so right Marilyn to say we must NEVER FORGET but it would appear that many people, especially in Europe, have already forgotten.
The Holocaust should be taught in every school in every country so that the 6 million who died did not so in vain.

MmAway M (520)
Friday April 9, 2010, 9:18 pm
Stan...Sadly this is not (to my attention) taught in schools now with computers etc.

Kids do need to know what went on in HISTORY!!!!

Rajee Seetharam (138)
Saturday April 10, 2010, 4:30 am
Noted. Thanks.

Matias Cedrani (0)
Saturday April 10, 2010, 4:53 am
Sadly it happen, but should never be forgotten.

Terry B (649)
Saturday April 10, 2010, 5:03 am

Lionel Mann (23)
Saturday April 10, 2010, 9:23 am
Back in 1945 to 1947 I was clerk to the Prosecuting Officer of a War Crimes Prosecution Team of B.A.O.R. in Germany, mainly engaged in bringing to trial staff of concentration camps in the British Zone of Occupation. There were eight teams in each of the British, French and U.S. Zones, twice as many in the Russian Zone where the number of crimes was even greater. Twenty-five years later in New Zealand I was privileged to have as a typist on my staff a Polish lady who still bore tattooed on her wrist her Auschwitz number. She had survived because she had been a dental nurse and had been employed to remove gold fillings from the teeth of corpses between their removal from the gas chambers and being cast into the ovens. Yet there are idiots who would deny the Holocaust when there are survivors and witnesses still living! It was true enough and I doubt whether anyone who was not involved can truly understand its stark horror. Today, though, we see “leading” nations, “Master Races”, setting up concentration camps, seeking by military aggression to convert other nations to their way of life, subjecting their own populace to tight surveillance and lying propaganda. Will the human race never learn?

Marcy A (1)
Saturday April 10, 2010, 12:19 pm
We will NEVER forget!

Audrey L (37)
Saturday April 10, 2010, 1:56 pm
We must never forget. We must also note the hatred that is spewed by a certain TV stations hosts and some Republicans running for office, It is this kind of hatred that should not go unchecked.

Fong-Lie B (0)
Saturday April 10, 2010, 3:26 pm
It is nice to read that people care about the Holocaust, unbelievable to think that there are people who deny that this ever happened. To Lionel Mann, who wrote, "Will the human race never learn?", Lionel, I doubt it, human can be very ignored!
My Dutch Father, one of the very few survivors of World War II is going the end of April, begin May to Germany, to a memorial service. People from all over the world will attend to pray for their murdered family members and friends. I'm said that I can not support my father to be there at his side, I'm in the US with a limit of work/income.

The Holocaust, brutal murder, torture, destroying of humanity can never be forgotten, so it don't repeat!!

Dave C (867)
Saturday April 10, 2010, 3:31 pm
How many. . . ?

Donna Smith (28)
Saturday April 10, 2010, 3:58 pm
we can never forget

Lloyd H (46)
Saturday April 10, 2010, 6:44 pm
Never to forget! I had in the 1970's the honor and privilege of working as as both dayshift orderly and dinner cook at Robison Jewish Home in Portland, Oregon, where a large number of the residents either had camp tattoos or had just escaped in time. We can never forget, nor can we allow the degradation of the victims memories by groups who would for the benfit of their own agenda use Holocaust Rememberance Day! Such as this morning when I went balistic over the headline on CARE2 'On Holocaust Rememberance Day Remember the Animals in the Concentration Camps' by which the Animala rights peole mean factory farms. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING proves that the lesson has been lost and corrupted better than this group of low life scum equating the victims of the Nazi Holocaust with livestock, just exactly as the Nazi considered them, treating the Jews, Gays et al during their reign of terror as animals to be exterminated. We may never forget, but we must also never fail to stop the corruption and misappropriation of the lesson by those who seek advantage of its use for their own gain. Using Holocaust Rememberance Day as a PR stunt by the Animal rights people does nothing but put put the victims in tha same category as animals and remove any meaning from CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY. It was an outrage and it was totally inappropriate for CARE2 to have posted it as it was in the first place.

Lloyd H (46)
Saturday April 10, 2010, 6:53 pm
Wow, what a big surprise, just scrolled down to the bottom of this CARE2 Daily News to see my aforementionted article, and low and behold my comment from this morning is no longer there at all. Guess the Animals rights people are in charge of the Animal Farm now!

Dave C (867)
Saturday April 10, 2010, 10:38 pm
What is 'Holocaust Denial'?

By Barbara Kulaszka

In recent years, considerable attention has been devoted to the supposed danger of "Holocaust denial." Politicians, newspapers and television warn about the growing influence of those who reject the Holocaust story that some six million European Jews were systematically exterminated during the Second World War, most of them in gas chambers.

In several countries, including Israel, France, Germany and Austria, "Holocaust denial" is against the law, and "deniers" have been punished with stiff fines and prison sentences. Some Jewish community leaders have called for similar measures in North America. In Canada, David Matas, Senior Counsel for the "League for Human Rights" of the Zionist B'nai B'rith organization, says: [1]

“The Holocaust was the murder of six million Jews, including two million children. Holocaust denial is a second murder of those same six million. First their lives were extinguished; then their deaths. A person who denies the Holocaust becomes part of the crime of the Holocaust itself.”

Often overlooked in this controversy is the crucial question: Just what constitutes "Holocaust denial"?

Six Million?

Should someone be considered a "Holocaust denier" because he does not believe – as Matas and many others insist – that six million Jews were killed during World War II? This figure was cited by the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg in 1945-1946. It found that "the policy pursued [by the German government] resulted in the killing of six million Jews, of which four million were killed in the extermination institutions." [2]

Yet if that is so, then several of the most prominent Holocaust historians could be regarded as "deniers." Professor Raul Hilberg, author of the standard reference work, The Destruction of the European Jews, does not accept that six million Jews died. He puts the total of deaths (from all causes) at 5.1 million. Gerald Reitlinger, author of The Final Solution, likewise did not accept the six million figure. He estimated the figure of Jewish wartime dead might be as high as 4.6 million, but admitted that this was conjectural due to a lack of reliable information.

Human Soap?

Is someone a "Holocaust denier" if he says that the Nazis did not make soap from the corpses of murdered Jews? After considering the evidence – including an actual bar of soap supplied by the Soviets – the Nuremberg Tribunal declared in its Judgment that "in some instances attempts were made to utilize the fat from the bodies of the victims in the commercial manufacture of soap." [3]

In 1990, though, Israel's official Yad Vashem Holocaust center “rewrote history" by admitting that the soap story was not true. "Historians have concluded that soap was not made from human fat. When so many people deny the Holocaust ever happened, why give them something to use against the truth?," said Yad Vashem official Shmuel Krakowski. [4]

Wannsee Conference?

Is someone a "Holocaust denier" if he does not accept that the January 1942 "Wannsee conference" of German bureaucrats was held to set or coordinate a program of systematic mass murder of Europe's Jews? If so, Israeli Holocaust historian Yehuda Bauer must be wrong – and a "Holocaust denier" – because he declared: "The public still repeats, time after time, the silly story that at Wannsee the extermination of the Jews was arrived at." In Bauer's opinion, Wannsee was a meeting but "hardly a conference" and "little of what was said there was executed in detail." [5]

Extermination Policy?

Is someone a "Holocaust denier" if he says that there was no order by Hitler to exterminate Europe's Jews? There was a time when the answer would have been yes. Holocaust historian Raul Hilberg, for example, wrote in the 1961 edition of his study, The Destruction of the European Jews, that there were two Hitler orders for the destruction of Europe's Jews: the first given in the spring of 1941, and the second shortly thereafter. But Hilberg removed mention of any such order from the revised, three-volume edition of his book published in 1985. [6] As Holocaust historian Christopher Browning has noted: [7]

“In the new edition, all references in the text to a Hitler decision or Hitler order for the `Final Solution’ have been systematically excised. Buried at the bottom of a single footnote stands the solitary reference: `Chronology and circumstances point to a Hitler decision before the summer ended.’ In the new edition, decisions were not made and orders were not given.”

A lack of hard evidence for an extermination order by Hitler has contributed to a controversy that divides Holocaust historians into "intentionalists" and "functionalists." The former contend that there was a premeditated extermination policy ordered by Hitler, while the latter hold that Germany's wartime "final solution" Jewish policy evolved at lower levels in response to circumstances. But the crucial point here is this: notwithstanding the capture of literally tons of German documents after the war, no one can point to documentary evidence of a wartime extermination order, plan or program. This was admitted by Professor Hilberg during his testimony in the 1985 trial in Toronto of German-Canadian publisher Ernst Zündel. [8]


So just what constitutes "Holocaust denial"? Surely a claim that most Auschwitz inmates died from disease and not systematic extermination in gas chambers would be "denial." But perhaps not. Jewish historian Arno J. Mayer, a Princeton University professor, wrote in his 1988 study Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?: The 'Final Solution' in History: “…From 1942 to 1945, certainly at Auschwitz , but probably overall, more Jews were killed by so-called 'natural' causes than by 'unnatural' ones." [9]

Even estimates of the number of people who died at Auschwitz – allegedly the main extermination center – are no longer clear cut. At the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal, the Allies charged that the Germans exterminated four million people at Auschwitz. [10] Until 1990, a memorial plaque at Auschwitz read: "Four Million People Suffered and Died Here at the Hands of the Nazi Murderers Between the Years 1940 and 1945." [11]

Is it "Holocaust denial" to dispute these four million deaths? Not today. In July 1990, the Polish government's Auschwitz State Museum, along with Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust center, conceded that the four million figure was a gross exaggeration, and references to it were accordingly removed from the Auschwitz monument. Israeli and Polish officials announced a tentative revised toll of 1.1 million Auschwitz dead. [12] In 1993, French Holocaust researcher Jean-Claude Pressac, in a much-discussed book about Auschwitz, estimated that altogether about 775,000 died there during the war years. [13]

Professor Mayer acknowledges that the question of how many really died in Auschwitz remains open. In Why Did the Heavens Not Darken? he wrote: [14}

“… Many questions remain open ... All in all, how many bodies were cremated in Auschwitz? How many died there all told? What was the national, religious, and ethnic breakdown in this commonwealth of victims? How many of them were condemned to die a 'natural' death and how many were deliberately slaughtered? And what was the proportion of Jews among those murdered in cold blood among these gassed? We have simply no answers to these questions at this time.”

Gas Chambers

What about denying the existence of extermination "gas chambers"? Here too, Mayer makes a startling statement: “Sources for the study of the gas chambers are at once rare and unreliable." While Mayer believes that such chambers did exist at Auschwitz, he points out that “most of what is known is based on the depositions of Nazi officials and executioners at postwar trials and on the memory of survivors and bystanders. This testimony must be screened carefully, since it can be influenced by subjective factors of great complexity.” [15}

Höss Testimony

One example of this might be the testimony of Rudolf Höss, an SS officer who served as commandant of Auschwitz. In its Judgment, the Nuremberg International Military Tribunal quoted at length from his testimony to support its findings of extermination. [16]

It is now well established that Höss’ crucial testimony, as well as his so-called "confession" – which was also cited by the Nuremberg Tribunal – are not only false, but were obtained by beating the former commandant nearly to death. [17] Höss' wife and children were also threatened with death and deportation to Siberia. In his statement – which would not be admissible today in any United States court of law – Höss claimed the existence of an extermination camp called "Wolzek." In fact, no such camp ever existed. He further claimed that during the time that he was commandant of Auschwitz, two and a half million people were exterminated there, and that a further half million died of disease. [18] Today no reputable historian upholds these figures. Höss was obviously willing to say anything, sign anything and do anything to stop the torture, and to try to save himself and his family.

Forensic Investigations

In his 1988 book, Professor Mayer calls for "excavations at the killing sites and in their immediate environs" to determine more about the gas chambers. In fact, such forensic studies have been made. The first was conducted in 1988 by American execution equipment consultant, Fred A. Leuchter, Jr. He carried out an on-site forensic examination of the alleged gas chambers at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek to determine if they could have been used to kill people as claimed. After a careful study of the alleged killing facilities, Leuchter concluded that the sites were not used, and could not have been used, as homicidal gas chambers. Furthermore, an analysis of samples taken by Leuchter from the walls and floors of the alleged gas chambers showed either no or minuscule traces of cyanide compound, from the active ingredient of Zyklon B, the pesticide allegedly used to murder Jews at Auschwitz. [19]

A confidential forensic examination (and subsequent report) commissioned by the Auschwitz State Museum and conducted by Institute of Forensic Research in Krakow has confirmed Leuchter's finding that minimal or no traces of cyanide compound can be found in the sites alleged to have been gas chambers. [20]

The significance of this is evident when the results of the forensic examination of the alleged homicidal gas chambers are compared with the results of the examination of the Auschwitz disinfestation facilities, where Zyklon B was used to delouse mattresses and clothing. Whereas no or only trace amounts of cyanide were found in the alleged homicidal gas chambers, massive traces of cyanide were found in the walls and floor in the camp's disinfestation delousing chambers.

Another forensic study was carried out by German chemist Germar Rudolf. On the basis of his on-site examination and analysis of samples, the certified chemist and doctoral candidate concluded: "For chemical-technical reasons, the claimed mass gassings with hydrocyanic acid in the alleged 'gas chambers' in Auschwitz did not take place ... The supposed facilities for mass killing in Auschwitz and Birkenau were not suitable for this purpose..." [21]

There is also the study of Austrian engineer Walter Lüftl, a respected expert witness in numerous court cases, and former president of Austria's professional association of engineers. In a 1992 report he called the alleged mass extermination of Jews in gas chambers "technically impossible." [22]

Discredited Perspective

So just what constitutes "Holocaust denial"? Those who support criminal persecution of "Holocaust deniers" seem to be still living in the world of 1946 where the Allied officials of the Nuremberg Tribunal have just pronounced their verdict. But the Tribunal's findings can no longer be assumed to be valid. Because it relied so heavily on such untrustworthy evidence as the Höss testimony, some of its most critical findings are now discredited.

For purposes of their own, powerful special interest groups desperately seek to keep substantive discussion of the Holocaust story taboo. One of the ways they do this is by purposely mischaracterizing revisionist scholars as "deniers." But the truth can't be suppressed forever: There is a very real and growing controversy about what actually happened to Europe's Jews during World War II.

Let this issue be settled as all great historical controversies are resolved: through free inquiry and open debate in our journals, newspapers and classrooms.


1. The Globe and Mail (Toronto), Jan. 22, 1992.

2. Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the International Military Tribunal (IMT "blue series"), Vol. 22, p. 496.

3. IMT "blue series," Vol. 22, p. 496.

4. The Globe and Mail (Toronto), April 25, 1990; See also: M. Weber, "Jewish Soap," The Journal of Historical Review, Summer 1991.

5. The Canadian Jewish News (Toronto), Jan. 30, 1992, p. 8.

6. See: Barbara Kulaszka, ed., Did Six Million Really Die: Report of the Evidence in the Canadian 'False News' Trial of Ernst Zündel (Toronto: Samisdat, 1992), pp. 192, 300, 349.

7. C. Browning, "The Revised Hilberg," Simon Wiesenthal Annual, Vol. 3, 1986, p. 294; B. Kulaszka, ed., Did Six Million Really Die (1992), p. 117.

8. B. Kulaszka, ed., Did Six Million Really Die (1992), pp. 24-25.

9. A. Mayer, Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?: The 'Final Solution' in History (Pantheon, 1988), p. 365.

10. Nuremberg document 008-USSR, in IMT "blue series," Vol. 39, pp. 241, 261.

11. B. Kulaszka, ed., Did Six Million Really Die (1992), p. 441.

12. Y. Bauer, "Fighting the Distortions," The Jerusalem Post (Israel), Sept. 22, 1989; “Auschwitz Deaths Reduced to a Million," The Daily Telegraph (London), July 17, 1990; " Poland Reduces Auschwitz Death Toll Estimate to 1 Million," The Washington Times, July 17, 1990.

13. J.-C. Pressac, Les Crémetoires d'Auschwitz: La machinerie du meurtre de masse (Paris: CNRS, 1993), p. 148. See also: R. Faurisson, "Jean-Claude Pressac's New Auschwitz Book," The Journal of Historical Review, Jan.-Feb. 1994, p. 24.

14. A. Mayer, Why Did the Heavens Not Darken? (1988), p. 366.

15. A. Mayer, Why Did the Heavens Not Darken? (1988), pp. 362-363.

16. IMT "blue series," Vol. 1, pp. 251-252; Nuremberg document 3868-PS, in IMT "blue series," Vol. 33, pp. 275-279.

17. Rupert Butler, Legions of Death (England: 1983), pp. 235-237.

18. See: R. Faurisson, "How the British Obtained the Confession of Rudolf Höss," The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1986-87, pp. 389-403.

19. See, for example: B. Kulaszka, ed., Did Six Million Really Die (1992), pp. 469-502. See also: M. Weber, “Fred Leuchter: Courageous Defender of Historical Truth,” The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1992-93, pp. 421-428
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20. “An Official Polish Report on the Auschwitz 'Gas Chambers’,” The Journal of Historical Review, Summer 1991, pp. 207-216.

21. G. Rudolf, Gutachten ueber die Bildung und Nachweisbarkeit von Cyanidverbindungen in den 'Gaskammern' von Auschwitz (London: 1993) ( ); The Rudolf Report (in English) ( )

22. "The 'Lüftl Report'," The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1992-93.

This essay is adapted from a text first published in 1992 by the Canadian Free Speech League.

About the Author

Barbara Kulaszka is a Canadian lawyer who practices law in Brighton, Ontario. She is best known for her work in free speech cases. During the 1988 “Holocaust trial” in Toronto, she served a co-counsel (with Doug Christie) for defendant Ernst Zundel. In 1999 she was awarded the “George Orwell Award” by the Canadian Free Speech League.

Stan B (123)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 2:08 am
Hosted by Back to Google NewsFor mentally ill survivors, Holocaust lives on
By ARON HELLER (AP) – 5 hours ago

PARDES HANNA, Israel — Some patients refuse to shower because it reminds them of the gas chambers. Others hoard meat in pillow cases because they fear going hungry.

At the Shaar Menashe Mental Health Center in northern Israel, it's as though the Holocaust never ended.

As Israel on Sunday night begins its annual 24 hours of remembrance of the Nazi genocide, the focus is on the 6 million Jews murdered and on the survivors who built new lives in the Jewish state.

Much less is ever said about the survivors for whom mental illness is part of the Holocaust's legacy.

At Shaar Menashe, patients remain frozen in time. Even today, 65 years after the end of World War II, there are sometimes screams of "The Nazis are coming!"

"These are the forgotten people. These are the ones who have been left behind, the people who have fallen between the cracks," said Rachel Tiram, the facility's longtime social worker.

Even among survivors with sanity intact, it can take decades to open up about their experiences. Here, most of the patients still won't speak. They are introverted and unresponsive. They mumble and shake uncontrollably, slump in front of blank TV screens and look aimlessly into the distance while sucking hard on cigarettes.

The details of their haunted pasts are sketchy and emerge only from hints in their behavior.

Meir Moskowitz, 81, endured pogroms and days inside a cramped cattle car in his native Romania. His body still quivers. During five hours in the company of visitors, he spoke just one word: "Germania."

Arieh Bleier, a gentle, 87-year-old Hungarian with deep, sullen eyes, survived the Mauthausen concentration camp. His parents and brother perished in Auschwitz. When asked about World War II, he looked away and shook his head.

For most of these survivors, reminiscing is impossible.

"It's hard to talk about it, very hard," said Devora Amiel, 78 and toothless, her speech slurred by a tongue puffed up from medication. She escaped a Polish ghetto, was taken in by a Christian family, and later grew up in an orphanage. She never found out what happened to her family.

"After you go through it, it's hard to tell," she said. "You can only scream about it."

Most survivors in Israel went on to live productive lives, and their ranks include politicians, authors and Nobel Prize laureates. But for decades after becoming a state, Israel tended to look for role models among the fighters in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising rather than Jews meekly filing into cattle cars and gas chambers.

Survivors driven insane by their experiences ended up in ordinary institutions which were not always a good fit; for instance, they had to wear pajamas, which reminded them of concentration camp inmates' uniforms. Sometimes the children and grandchildren of patients were simply told they had died in the Holocaust.

Only in 1998 did Israel build three homes for survivors, starting with Shaar Menashe.

Today about 220,000 survivors are still alive in Israel. About 200 are in Shaar Menashe and the other two homes.

Some have lived in mental institutions since their liberation, while others developed mental illness late in life.

Alexander Grinshpoon, director of Shaar Menashe, said all survivors have some form of post-traumatic stress disorder. But the roughly 80 in his care are men and women who could not overcome their wartime traumas, perhaps because their suffering was so profound, or because they were predisposed to mental illness — or maybe because their minds simply crashed under the weight of their experiences.

Grinshpoon said research has shown that those who have experienced emotional trauma are five times more likely to develop serious mental illnesses. Holocaust survivors, he said, have a higher rate of suicide.

Eighty percent have trouble sleeping and two-thirds suffer from emotional distress, according to a survey commissioned by the Foundation for the Benefit of Holocaust Victims in Israel.

The foundation's chairman, Zeev Factor, is an Auschwitz survivor. He says he has been able to maintain his sanity by focusing on the present but still suffers in his dreams. "I sometimes wake up from them covered in sweat from head to toe," he said.

It's not uncommon for mental patients anywhere to believe the world is coming to an end. But for these patients whose world really did come apart, paranoia is well-founded.

Tiram, the social worker, spoke of an elderly woman in Shaar Menashe who constantly fears the police are coming for her.

"This is something that really happened to her. It's not something that she is making up," Tiram said. "Each time they go to sleep, they go back to the Holocaust, to reliving their childhood."

Grinshpoon said most patients have trouble distinguishing between fantasy and reality, and their stories are often unreliable. One man says he was a fighter pilot during World War II, another says he's a ninja. A third is convinced he's an Arab and says he hates Jews. One thinks she is still in Europe and is shocked to see an elderly woman in the mirror.

At Shaar Menashe, patients are not required to wear pajamas. They have lawns, arts and crafts lessons and a workshops with pets. Some have developed hobbies, cultivated friendships and even reconnected with children and grandchildren. Many of the volunteers working here are survivors themselves.

Still, the shadow of death camps, crematoria, deportations and gas chambers is never far away.

Said Factor, of the benefit foundation: "They live in this world and in that world at the same time."

What does it matter if there were 6 million or 5 million? I can't believe the previous post.

Terry B (649)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 5:38 am
Holocaust deniers are plain and simple fools, Stan, and there is little evidence that they have ever traveled to the places in question of spoken to people who were actually there. Nor will any amount of argument ever convince them of the truth, so it is rather a waste of time,

I lived in Berlin for several years back in the 60s and one of my best friends had an uncle who was a guard at Bergen-Belsen and confirmed the worst. One of our professors was a former Red Army officer who also did so from his own memory of what the Soviets uncovered in their march across Poland, and nobody ever thought that the Russians were particularly pro-Jewish.

I have personally visted Oranienberg outside Berlin many times, Dachau by Munich, Bergen-Belsen hidden deep within a military base on the Lueneberg Heath; and in Poland to Auschwitz and Stutthof.

Does anyone really think that the government of Poland has such a warped sense of decency that they would fabricate the memorial parks at Auschwitz, Treblinka, Stutthof, and the Wolf's Lair as a sort of macabre Disneyland for tourists?

These people need to get off there butts and into the real world, but of course they won't.

Bob E (113)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 6:35 am
Jews bombard us and want us to REMEMBER "what can happen to civilized people when bigotry, hatred, and indifference go unchecked”… (we are supposed to forget that unchecked Israel is proceeding to build more housing on Palestinian land in the West Bank and in East Jerusalem)

Israel plans to build a museum of “tolerance” in East Jerusalem rejoicing to the world about Israeli tolerance and justice… Unfortunately for the Palestinians... Israel plans to tear down some more Palestinian housing in East Jerusalem to get the land for tolerance…

Let’s talk about TOLERANCE… Let’s talk about being UNCHECKED…
Just like the holocaust… no one should ever FORGET what Israel is doing...

Fong-Lie B (0)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 8:05 am
I don't understand why you write this Bob E. The Holocaust is not only about the murdered Jews, the Nazis had murdered anybody who did not followed their orders, even their own German Soldiers.
German Soldiers fled or was executed for not following orders to murder people. Many people from other countries was starved to dead, beaten to dead, died of sickness, used for medical test, gassed.
Today, after 65 years, we remember and pray for all nationality murdered people, and we should support the few survivors of the Holocaust as good as we can!!

Marianna M. (6)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 8:06 am
so sad that a historical fact can trigger so much anger regarding todays politics.

Sunday April 11, 2010, 11:23 am
In Belgium it's 8.20 pm and it's the first thing I hear about the Holocaust remembering day.

It's absolutely awefull what happend. There are no words to discribe it. WE CAN NEVER FORGET.

My greetings to all victims and family of victims of the war.

And ofcourse, We Will stand AND fight against all nazi's still on earth.

Dave C (867)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 11:41 am
Yes indeed, the truth of the so-called 'Holocaust' should indeed be taught in schools - The Truth!!

Bracha Katz (31)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 7:23 pm
we must always remember, thanxcal. dave c., my beloved grandma has numbers on her arm. she once was the youngest of many children, and after the holocost she had just one brother left. when she came to aushwitz, she was seperated from her mother and father and 90-something year old grandmother. she didn't know about gas chambers, and she asked another inmate where her parents went, and that inmate peointed to the smoke coming out of the chimney of an innocent looking building. i heard some of her stories first hand. do you think she made these stories up? yes there are myths about the holocost, but there are also many myths about the american revelution. i once read an article in the us & world news, saying that paul revere really didn't ride thru town saying "the british are coming", i'm not sure if that article is true, but if it is, will you say that the american revelution never happened? holocost deniers are either sadly misinformed or just plain old anti-semites.i hope you get your facts straight.

Dave C (867)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 11:24 pm
Cui Bono? Motives for propagating the Extermination Thesis

"What have been the motivations of Jews in their intense and prolonged dissemination of the Extermination Thesis ("Holocaust" material)?
After their experiences during the Second World War, European Jews were more strongly attracted than ever to Zionism, the central objective of which was the founding of a secular Jewish state. Palestine was the most strongly desired location for that state, but Palestine had a large non-Jewish population which had to be dislodged by terror, murder, diplomatic and financial pressure on the British government and other means. By exaggerating the extent of Jewish mortality during the war, the proponents of the Extermination Thesis could put forth the idea that Jewish migration to various countries should be facilitated since it would be very small due to the great losses alleged. Moreover, a guilt complex could be engendered in potential host countries (especially the United States) by propagating the idea that they had been guilty of not helping Jews while they had been doomed to extermination.

By constantly reiterating the "Holocaust" material, Jewish organizations could more effectively frighten Jews themselves into making larger donations for various protective measures against future "Holocausts."

In a more tangible, immediate sphere, the "Holocaust" material helped Jews and the Jewish state founded in 1948 in Palestine financially. Zionist efforts culminated in the Luxembourg agreement of 1952, which forced the west German (Bonn) government to commit itself to protracted, heavy reparation payments to individual Jews and to the newly formed Jewish state. The "Holocaust" material was also effective in repressing any criticism of the Jewish state, no matter how criminal its actions. The gross exaggeration of Jewish mortality also served to bring about a sort of "obliteration by contrast," since other groups, e.g., the Baltic nations, had suffered heavy losses during and indeed after the war at the hands of the USSR, a government which had given the impression of being heavily under Jewish influences in its earlier stages."

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120 Questions and Answers', by by Charles E. Weber

AWAY AWHILE Cal M (1065)
Monday April 12, 2010, 12:57 am
Dave C,., the simple explanation is often the truest. The motivation about constant reiterations on the Holocaust is to try to prevent it in the future. Folks like you seem to work overtime with their statistical academic exercises trying to figure out what the fgture of those killed by the Nazis was, both Jews and Non-Jews. Very simply, their best days was far worse than your worst one. That will be true for your entire life (and mine too)unless you are incarcerated or threatened with death daily by your captors. Your numbers and methodologies are irrelevant. Your quotes and sources are irrelevant,since dead is unfortunately, dead. Massive numbers of people were killed, ridiculous quotes and stats by European engineers aside.Only by remembering what happened and man's inhumanity to man can any sense be made of this. Your reliance on gross distortions of fact morally disgusts me--you should be ashamed of this!

Also, Israel's focus on this belies this fact: After World War II, no one wanted the Jewish refugees from Europe, not the US, not Europe, no one. You can bend this any way you want, but Jews, like all other peoples, including Palestinians, deserve a state of their own

Stan B (123)
Monday April 12, 2010, 2:27 am
Tara; I share your anguish regarding your grandmother. When I was a uni student in the sixties I spent some time in Israel working on a kibbutz along with Jewish and non-Jewish friends. At the end of our stay we were taken on a tour of the country which included a visit to a special hospital facillity for concentration camp survivors. It was the most traumatic experience of my life looking at the faces of people who had survived the death camps but were unable to lead normal lives because of what they had seen and experienced. Most of them just stared into space as if their minds could not cope with anything ressembling normal life. They all had the same distant look and, as Terry quite righly points out, unless you actually experience something like this first hand, you have no real idea what is involved.
Cal; don't waste your precious time engaging Nazi scum or Holocaust deniers. There's a special place in hell reserved for them.

Terry B (649)
Monday April 12, 2010, 4:37 am
Right, Stan, Cal, and Tara. Holocaust deniers are the flat-earth dopes of our time, plain and simple fools. A waste of time trying to refute nonsense.

As for the truth of the Holocaust being taught -- that is done in at least one place by law: Germany. And I am glad that my son had a few years in Berlin schools learning about it.

Dave C (867)
Monday April 12, 2010, 11:23 pm
OK, Cal, you've convinced me, I get the picture now, it's all perfectly clear - as the Judge said in the Ernst Zundel trial: "The truth is no defense". There's no point letting a little thing like the truth get in the way of a very lucrative story, after all, as the man said - there's no business like Shoah business. . . right?

Dave C (867)
Tuesday April 13, 2010, 12:09 am
Holocaust Remembrance:
What's Behind the Campaign?

By Mark Weber

Since the late 1970s “Holocaust Remembrance” has become ever more important in the United States and many other countries. The campaign to remember the Holocaust -- often defined as the genocidal killing of six million Jews in Europe during the Second World War – includes numerous commemorative events, education courses in many schools, and a stream of motion pictures, television specials, books and magazine articles.

Across the United States, prominent political and civic leaders participate in annual Holocaust commemoration ceremonies. A number of countries, including Britain, Germany and Italy, officially observe a yearly Holocaust Remembrance Day. In November 2005 the United Nations General Assembly approved a resolution introduced by Israel to designate January 27 as an international Holocaust remembrance day.

Every major American city has at least one Holocaust museum or memorial. Worldwide there are more than 250 Holocaust museums and memorials, most of them in the US and Europe. [1] The largest is the US Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, DC, which is run by a taxpayer-funded federal government agency, and draws some two million visitors yearly.

The public is continually reminded of Jewish suffering during World War II. Between 1989 and 2003 alone, more than 170 films with Holocaust themes were made. [2] In many American and European schools, and in all Israeli classrooms, a focus on the wartime suffering of Europe's Jews is obligatory. [3]

Yehuda Bauer, a prominent Holocaust specialist who is a professor at Hebrew University in Israel, observed in 1992: “Whether presented authentically or inauthentically, in accordance with the historical facts or in contradiction to them, with em pathy and understanding or as monumental kitsch, the Holocaust has become a ruling symbol of our culture… Hardly a month passes without a new TV production, a new film, a number of new books of prose or poetry dealing with the subject, and the flood is increasing rather than abating.” [4]

Tim Cole, a history professor and prominent specialist of Holocaust studies, writes in his book Selling the Holocaust: “From a relatively slow start, we have now come to the point where Jewish culture in particular, and Western culture more generally, are saturated with the 'Holocaust’. Indeed, the ‘Holocaust’ has saturated Western culture to such an extent that it appears not only centre stage, but also lurks in the background. This can be seen in the remarkable number of contemporary movies which include the 'Holocaust’ as plot or sub-plot.” [5]

How did the Holocaust come to play such a large role in America? “A good part of the answer,” writes Jewish scholar Peter Novick, “is the fact… that Jews play an important and influential role in Hollywood , the television industry, and the newspaper, magazine and book publishing worlds.” Anyone who denies that this is a major factor behind the “massive attention” given to the Holocaust in the US media, he adds, “is being naïve or disingenuous.” [6]

Exploiting the Holocaust

What’s behind the Holocaust remembrance campaign? Whose interests does it serve?

It is, of course, fitting and proper to remember victims of genocide, war and oppression. But Holocaust remembrance is not, as its supporters claim, a noble effort motivated by sincere concern for humanity. Instead, this relentless campaign is an expression of Jewish-Zionist power, and is designed to further Jewish-Zionist interests.

On the occasion of the opening of the US Holocaust Memorial Museum on the Mall in Washington, noted Jewish author Melvin Jules Bukiet called the Museum a “statement of raw power,” and added: “It’s not Jewish tragedy that’s remembered on the Mall this week; it’s Jewish power to which homage is paid.” [7]

The Holocaust Remembrance campaign encourages sympathy and support for Jews and Israel. It helps to justify America's massive and on-going support for Israel, and to excuse otherwise inexcusable policies of the Zionist state. Among Jews it strengthens a feeling of group solidarity and promotes a sense of community purpose.

Norman Finkelstein, a Jewish scholar who teaches at DePaul University in Chicago, writes in his bestselling book, The Holocaust Industry, that “invoking The Holocaust” is “a ploy to delegitimize all criticism of Jews.” He adds: “By conferring total blamelessness on Jews, the Holocaust dogma immunizes Israel and American Jewry from legitimate censure... Organized American Jewry has ex ploited the Nazi holocaust to deflect criticism of Israel's and its own morally indefensible policies.” [8]

Paula Hyman, a professor of modern Jewish history at Yale University, has observed: “With regard to Israel, the Holocaust may be used to forestall political criticism and suppress debate; it reinforces the sense of Jews as an eternally beleaguered people who can rely for their defense only upon themselves. The invocation of the suffering endured by the Jews under the Nazis often takes the place of rational argument, and is expected to convince doubters of the legitimacy of current Israeli government policy.” [9]

This view is echoed by another Jewish scholar, Tony Judt, who is director of the Remarque Institute at New York University: [10]

“The Shoah [Hebrew term for Holocaust] is frequently exploited in America and Israel to deflect and forbid any criticism of Israel . Indeed, the Holocaust of Europe's Jews is nowadays exploited thrice over: It gives American Jews in particular a unique, retrospective ‘victim identity’; it allows Israel to trump any other nation's sufferings (and justify its own excesses) with the claim that the Jewish catastrophe was unique and incompa rable; and (in contradiction to the first two) it is adduced as an all-purpose metaphor for evil -- anywhere, everywhere and always -- and taught to schoolchildren all over America and Europe without any reference to context or cause. This modern instrumentalization of the Holocaust for political advantage is ethically disreputable and politically imprudent.”

In Israel, says Tom Segev, a prominent Israeli journalist and author, the Holocaust has become “an object of worship.” Moreover, he writes, “the 'heritage of the Holocaust,’ as it is taught in [Israel’s] schools and fostered in national memorial ceremonies, often encourages insular chauvinism and a sense that the Nazi extermination of the Jews justifies any act that seems to contribute to Israel’s security, including the oppression of the population in the territories occupied by Israel in the Six-Day War.” [11]

Amira Hass, an award-winning Israeli journalist and author, is even more blunt. Writing in a leading Israeli daily paper, she says: [12]

"… Israel has turned the liquidation of Europe's Jews into an asset. Our murdered relatives are being enlisted to enable Israel to continue not giving a damn about international decisions against the occupation. The suffering our parents endured in the ghettoes and concentration camps that filled Europe, the physical and mental anguish and torment that our parents were subjected to every single day since the `liberation,’ are used as weapons to thwart any international criticism of the society we are creating here. This is a society with built-in discrimination on the basis of nationality, and the discrimination is spreading on either side of the Green Line. This is a society that is systematically continuing to banish the Palestinian nation from its land and usurp its rights as a nation and its chances for a humane future."

The great lesson of the Holocaust, says Israel prime minister Ariel Sharon, is that Jews must “always remain vigilant and trust no one but ourselves. Jews can only rely on themselves.” Young Jews, he adds, “have the duty to bequeath the lesson, memories and stories, to underscore the importance of the existence of the Jewish state.” [13]

No Similar Remembrance of Non-Jews

Non-Jewish victims of genocide, oppression and war do not merit the same consideration as do Jewish victims of the Holocaust. There are no comparable museums, memorials or solemn ceremonies to commemorate, for example, the vastly greater number of victims of Soviet and Chinese Communism.

As historians acknowledge, the non-Jewish victims of Soviet Russian dictator Joseph Stalin greatly outnumber the Jews who perished as a result of Hitler’s policies. Robert Conquest, a prominent scholar of twentieth century Russian history, estimates the number of those who lost their lives as a consequence of Stalin’s policies as “no fewer than 20 million.” [14] Authoritative estimates of the number of Chinese who perished as victims of killings, repression, starvation and forced labor under the Communist regime of Mao Zedong range from about 30 million to more than 60 million. [15]

Americans are trained and encouraged to “know” that six million Jews were murdered by the Nazis in World War II. But few Americans, even well-educated ones, have any idea of how many Russians, Poles, Chinese or even Americans lost their lives in that global conflict. Estimates of the number of Chinese who lost their lives as direct and indirect victims of Japanese aggression and occupation during the 1930s and 1940s range from about ten million to more than twice that number. The Chinese government has put the figure at 35 million. [16]

During the years 1885 through 1908, an estimated five to eight million Africans perished in the Congo as direct and indirect victims of the brutal policies of the Belgian colonial authorities. These deaths were the result of widespread killings, starvation, exhaustion and exposure. [17]

'Holocaust Denial' Laws

In some countries special “Holocaust denial” laws stifle free and objective discussion of the Holocaust issue. In Israel, Germany, France, Austria and a few other nations, it is a crime publicly to “play down,” dispute, “whitewash,” or “deny” the Holocaust. No other chapter of history is protected by law in this way. Even factually accurate statements that violate “Holocaust denial” laws are punished. Over the years, many individuals in those countries have been fined, imprisoned or forced into exile for disputing Holocaust claims.

'God's Chosen'

The Holocaust is often treated with reverence, and as a central event of world history. For many Jews, says Rabbi Michael Goldberg, a Jewish author and religious leader, the “veneration” of the Holocaust has become a new religion. “And as with any organized church,” he adds, “this Holocaust cult has its own tenets of faith, rites, and shrines.” [18]

The Holocaust remembrance campaign reflects an arrogant view of Jews as a special and superior people. Abraham Foxman, head of the Anti-Defamation League -- one of the most influential Zionist groups — has declared: “...The Holocaust is something different. It is a singular event. It is not simply one example of genocide but a near successful attempt on the life of God's chosen children and, thus, on God himself. It is an event that is the antithesis of Creation as recorded in the Bible; and like its direct op­posite, which is relived weekly with the Sabbath and yearly with the Torah, it must be remembered from generation to gen­eration.” [19]

Jewish death and suffering do not deserve to be venerated more than the death and suffering of non-Jews. The Holocaust remembrance campaign deserves scorn, not support, because it is a one-sided effort that serves narrow Jewish and Israeli interests and bolsters Jewish-Zionist power.


1. A. Barkat, “Yad Vashem Was the First, And Now It’s The Latest,” Haaretz (Israel), March 15, 2005
( ).

2. D. Sterritt, “The one serious subject Hollywood doesn’t avoid,” The Christian Science Monitor, Nov. 22, 2002 ( ).

3. Peter Novick, The Holocaust in American Life (Boston: 1999), p. 207.

4. Quoted in: David Cesarani, ed., The Final Solution: Origins and Implementation (Routledge, 1994), pp. 305, 306.

5. Tim Cole, Selling the Holocaust (Routledge, 2000), p. 2.

6. P. Novick, The Holocaust in American Life (1999), p. 207. See also pp. 11-12, 208.

7. Melvin Jules Bukiet, “The Museum vs. Memory: The Taming of the Holocaust,” The Washington Post, Sunday, April 18, 1993, p. C3. Quoted in: P. Novick, The Holocaust in American Life (1999), p. 330, n. 104.

8. Norman G. Finkelstein, The Holocaust Industry (Verso, 2003), pp. 37, 52, 149.

9. Paula E. Hyman, “New Debate on the Holocaust,” The New York Times Magazine, Sept. 14, 1980, p. 79.

10. Tony Judt, “Goodbye To All That?,” The Nation (New York), Jan. 3, 2005, p. 17.

11. Tom Segev, The Seventh Million: The Israelis and the Holocaust (New York: 1993), pp. 513, 517.

12. Amira Hass, ”Using the Holocaust to ward off criticism,” Haaretz (Israel), March 16 (or 21?), 2005.

13. Leonard Fein, “Too Young to March?,” Forward (New York), May 13, 2005, p. 8; "Israel marks Auschwitz liberation,” BBC News, Jan. 27, 2005 ( );
"Sharon: Never Forget Nazi Killers,” CNN News, May 6, 2005
( ).

14. R. Conquest, The Great Terror: A Reassessment (Oxford Univ. Press, 1990), p. 48.

15. S. Courtois, and others, The Black Book of Communism (Harvard Univ. Press, 1999), pp. 4, 463-464; D. Southerland, “Repression’s Higher Toll,” The Washington Post, July 17, 1994, pp. A1, A22, A 23; Richard L. Walker, The Human Cost of Communism in China. A study of the Committee on the Judiciary, US Senate (1971).

16. “Dispute over mission stalls Japanese war museum,” The Palm Beach Post, May 21, 1995, p. 22A (from The New York Times); Sam Jameson, “WWII Apology Fails to Find a Voice in Japan ,” Los Angeles Times, June 10, 1995, p. A12.

17. Adam Hochschild, “In the Heart of Darkness,” The New York Review of Books, October 6, 2005, pp.
39-42; Adam Hochschild, King Leopold’s Ghost (Houghton Mifflin, 1999); A. Roxburgh, “Belgians Confront Colonial Past,” BBC News, March 9, 2005 ( ).

18. Michael Goldberg , Why Should Jews Survive? : Looking Past the Holocaust Toward a Jewish Future (Oxford Univ. Press, 1996), p. 41.

19. A. Foxman, “Schindler’s List – The Meaning of Spielberg’s Film,” ADL On the Frontline, January 1994, p. 2.
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