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No, You Can't Just Go to the Emergency Room--Unless You Want to Go Broke

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Or: Why I'm so glad I have health insurance.


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Past Member (0)
Monday October 21, 2013, 4:57 am
If you don't have insurance, they wouldn't charge that much, if you have different insurance they would charge a different amount, if you don't have insurance at all, it's probably free (which is why you are paying so much).

Fiona Ogilvie (561)
Monday October 21, 2013, 5:43 am
A recent visit to the emergency room costs me over $5,000. Fortunately, my HMO pay it all except $556.

Alice C (1797)
Monday October 21, 2013, 5:57 am
My last emergency visit cost over $500.00

pam w (139)
Monday October 21, 2013, 6:10 am
WAIT! Two aspirins? This would be funny if it weren't true.

Why do these charges exist? Why shouldn't medical care be free? Imagine that there really are people in this country who would prefer to see your child go untreated than to have the same health care for everyone.....nice Christian citizens, aren't they?

Past Member (0)
Monday October 21, 2013, 6:27 am

divergent revolution (309)
Monday October 21, 2013, 8:02 am
Has anyone heard about the thousand dollar toothbrush?
I went to the er, for 3hours, they didn't know anything
Then I got a 6, 000 $ bill, no kidding!

Gene J (290)
Monday October 21, 2013, 8:05 am
"According to a study from Harvard Medical School, someone dies as a consequence of not having health insurance about once every 12 minutes in the United States, because they aren't able to seek basic primary care treatment that can prevent more serious problems."

The single most cost effective method of lowering health care costs is preventive care, the kind you only have access to when you have health insurance. Poor people treat the emergency room as their primary care, putting off problems until they can no longer stand the pain and then seeking emergency treatment which is the most expensive care available. I would think, for this reason alone, that true financial conservatives would be leading the charge for single payer and defending the stepping stone that the ACA is. They would be had they not sold their souls to the one percent. In the last decade, in a graphic I recently saw, health care companies profits have gone from 2.5 billion per year to 12.5 billion. That is obscene and justifiable under no political system except one that rewards the one percent at the cost of every one else. I saw another graphic cartoon that illustrated this even better. It explained one person's plan for Halloween. She would give one child all the imported chocolate she had and let the other 100 divide up a single tootsie roll. This IS the state of the republican party and the intention of the one percent. The only real question remaining is are the American people willing to accept this inequity indefinitely, or have they had enough. I've had enough and I hope voters the country over in 2014 and 2016 have too.

divergent revolution (309)
Monday October 21, 2013, 8:05 am
Obviously I'm uninsured, but when I went for my back surgery and paid cash, I got a huge discount, over 2/3 off.

Gene J (290)
Monday October 21, 2013, 9:09 am
"If you don't have insurance, they wouldn't charge that much, if you have different insurance they would charge a different amount, if you don't have insurance at all, it's probably free (which is why you are paying so much)"

No, John, that isn't how it works. If you have no money you get billed, if you cannot pay it, you are hounded, if you have any assets, judgments are entered against you. If the hospital cannot collect those judgments, the bills are paid by the government. Tax money. So, we ALL pay for emergency room visits for the poor, they aren't free in any sense of the world and have never been. That republicans don't seem to know this is disingenuous. They know what I just mentioned about Health Care profits and those people are their "base" as GWB was captured on video telling his "fat cat" contributors. Why they are unwilling to fix this problem for the entire country comes down to money - less money for their base supporters. That is a VERY poor way to make policy, in my opinion.

Patricia H. (440)
Monday October 21, 2013, 9:45 am

Past Member (0)
Monday October 21, 2013, 10:54 am
I do not understand why they do not have a medical system like UK and Australia where people pay a small percentage of their wages all their working life then all medical treatment is free at the point of contact or a national health system in otherwords Its not fair to people that are poor to have to find medical insurance money

Noted thanks

Sheila D (28)
Monday October 21, 2013, 11:51 am
Definitely glad I have health insurance. And very happy to know (most) everyone else will now have access. Thanks for the post, Cal.

Maggie Kearns (7)
Monday October 21, 2013, 12:33 pm
Thanks Cal!

Birgit W (160)
Monday October 21, 2013, 1:05 pm
Noted, thanks.

Marija M (28)
Monday October 21, 2013, 1:21 pm
noted, tks Cal

Sheri Schongold (7)
Monday October 21, 2013, 3:41 pm
No surprise there. If they can't get your money one way, they will another.

Carmen S (611)
Monday October 21, 2013, 6:48 pm
Thanks Cal, dealing with this issue now.

Jason S (50)
Monday October 21, 2013, 7:27 pm
Good posting, thanks

DaleLovesOttawa O (198)
Monday October 21, 2013, 8:53 pm
I am grateful for universal health care, so that when I go to the ER or require any other medical procedure, I never see a bill ever. Period. In the U.S. things are more expensive for exactly the same procedure done in comparable western societies. Go figure, medicine for profit.

Cathe romano (52)
Monday October 21, 2013, 11:32 pm
The ACA is the best thing to happen to this country since SSI/Medicare. Having worked in hospitals for years I have long wished for a plan similar to universal health care. However, it is not just the uninsured who have caused the insurance rates to skyrocket. In many cases insured people walk into ER and treat it as they would an appointment with their General Practitioner. One of the classics I would see frequently, would be a patient going to ER to have a cast removed. They had missed their ortho appointment that day, so they figured this was way to get what they wanted, not what they needed. This not only costs those of us with insurance to have our rates raise. It takes away precious time from other patients who do need immediate attention.

Anita R (2)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 3:17 am
I live in Canada. I don't have to pay anything to go to emergency!

Winn A (179)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 7:40 am

Elisa F (235)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 3:45 pm
Noted. Thanks, Cal.

Dmitry Nikiforov (222)
Wednesday October 23, 2013, 12:52 am

Ben O (140)
Wednesday October 23, 2013, 9:31 am
Or: Why I'm so glad to live in Sweden!

Kathleen R (138)
Saturday October 26, 2013, 2:28 pm
noted & read
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