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Jelica R (144)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 2:50 pm
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Jelica R (144)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 2:53 pm
Barry McGuire: Eve Of Destruction

The eastern world it is exploding
Violence flarin', bullets loadin'
You're old enough to kill but not for votin'
You don't believe in war but whats that gun you're totin'?
And even the Jordan River has bodies floatin'

But you tell me
Over and over and over again my friend
Ah, you don't believe
We're on the eve of destruction

Don't you understand what I'm tryin' to say
Can't you feel the fears I'm feelin' today?
If the button is pushed, there's no runnin' away
There'll be no one to save with the world in a grave
Take a look around you boy, it's bound to scare you boy

And you tell me
Over and over and over again my friend
Ah, you don't believe
We're on the eve of destruction

Yeah my blood's so mad feels like coagulating
I'm sitting here just contemplatin'
I can't twist the truth it knows no regulation
Handful of senators don't pass legislation
And marches alone can't bring integration
When human respect is disintegratin'
This whole crazy world is just too frustratin'

And you tell me
Over and over and over again my friend
Ah, you don't believe
We're on the eve of destruction

Think of all the hate there is in Red China
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama
You may leave here for four days in space
But when you return it's the same old place
The pounding of the drums, the pride and disgrace
You can bury your dead but don't leave a trace
Hate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace

And tell me
Over and over and over and over again my friend
You don't believe
We're on the eve of destruction
Mmm, no, no, you don't believe
We're on the eve of destruction

Jelica R (144)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 3:01 pm
Let's "take a look around to Selma, Alabama" almost 50 years latter:

In Selma, Alabama, a monument to the first leader of the Ku Klux Klan is under construction on public land.

The statue of Confederate General Nathan Forrest -- infamous as the first Grand Wizard of the Klan and for massacring black Union soldiers at the Civil War battle of Fort Pillow -- even has the blessing of the Selma City Council.

Selma City Council: No More Monuments to KKK Hate!

Yup, some things seem to never change...

Terry V (30)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 3:12 pm

Kit B (276)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 3:47 pm

Wow, that is a FLASH from the past, about the mid 1960? I can't read it without the music coming into my head.

Then the music comes on in the video.

People think it's as simple as having a "peace" president. It's not, before WWI or WWII we had already fully committed ourselves to a large part of our economy being dedicated to the design, improvement (and manufacter) and sale of weapons. Even the "Cold War" was in great part a mechanism for both countries to continue to build and sell ever more "new and improved weapons".

Now we have Drone warfare. Many think is just great, kill the enemy and save the soldiers. The enemy we are killing are in large part, innocent civilians, but that too, contributes to the sale of these weapons. Killing civilians, leads to a few more who will join the those committed to terror tactics and thereby give us more excuses...reasons to use more weapons.

Last night I watched the Dallas Cowboys preseason game, and during commercials I switched over to CNN. They were re-playing a show about the mania over the building of a mosque in Murfreesboro, TN. These are the same people, just now older or a new generation of the same thinking, that fought to prevent full and open integration of schools and business. Put on a happy face for the African-Americans that join their church, not ever honestly accepting them. Rage against the "Dream Act" but willingly hire migrant workers while abusing them of fair wages. Scream that allowing those of LGBT community to have honest and fair human and civil rights is in some perverted way against the laws of their god.

Nothing really changes, it's just the same old story with a slightly different book jacket.

Kit B (276)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 3:57 pm

Yes. I signed all the petitions! The one from allowed me to send to others which I did.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 4:13 pm

Thanks, my dear friend!

So disturbing, but MUST be viewed!


Jelica R (144)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 4:23 pm
So true, Kit. Same old agenda with updated narrative... even Selma, Alabama proves it. That live link is for petition, with over 12,000 signatures of targeted 15,000. share this petition, a monument for a founder of the KKK is a shame. From petition sponsor:

"People know Selma, Alabama as a city where Dr. King fought for civil rights. Selma was the launching point for pivotal protests that hurtled the voting rights movement into the national spotlight. It is also a city of tragedy: thousands of students, religious leaders, and families fighting for civil rights in Selma were arrested, injured, or brutally killed." whose families still live in Selma.

Petition: Selma City Council: No More Monuments to KKK Hate!

Jelica R (144)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 4:49 pm
It is a great song, and it could be written today, even Selma fits. WTF have we been doing all these years? 'Cmon, half a century! I was a kid then, now I'm old; and nothing else has changed except weapons. Those means for killing have grown into an entity of itself, taking everything we need to live from us. They kill us so effectively that don't even need to be "mortal weapons". Humans will simply fade out...

Mid East is practically in my back yard. And I am scared.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 4:57 pm

Air and water are NOT stagnant! Radioactive refuse from Fukushima is washing up on the shores of the US NW coast and Canada.

We cannot afford to be nationalistic and pretend that nature respects man-made boundary lines.

These problems are universal.


Vicky P (476)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 5:17 pm
Signed and noted

Jim P (3257)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 5:53 pm
Petitions signed.

Truth is the first casualty of war.

Ty, Jelica.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 6:25 pm

Think about the pollution caused by denonating bombs and non-stop firing of artillery in the Middle East.

It affects us all -- in more ways than one.

I am beside myself, knowing that my country supplies drones, that kill more civilians -- women and children -- than their advertised targets, in an effort to make us feel more at ease from their use.



Carole Sarcinello (338)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 6:30 pm

EVERY life is important.

How can we feel outraged at the number of deaths caused by obesity, or drunk driving, or child abuse . . . and yet, ignore the rampant death that is caused DAILY by our own imperialistic war affronts to humanity?


Jelica R (144)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 6:51 pm
I've read, I think on Tomdispatch, that about 70 % killed by drones are civilians. Problem is every man old from 15 - 60 years is officially an enemy combatant; and they are not regular army, so no uniforms, no IDs (or no weapons?)...

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Monday August 20, 2012, 1:28 am

How convenient, huh? And then they'd have us believe that even women and children are trained to be "enemy combatants."

Mind you, WE are the combatants invading THEIR country.


Jelica R (144)
Monday August 20, 2012, 9:27 am
I do hate when this happens; I just wrote a long comment, pushed backspace button to delete a word, and ended on a page I was before. Now, my comment is gone, and here is it again, the best I can remember.

This drone warfare remind me of a SF novel "Ender's Game" by Orson Scott Card. Earth was attacked by an aggressive alien specie. After a while, someone proposes to use kids who were good in video games to operate sophisticated weapons, thus getting advance thru children's fast reflex reactions. Ender is a leader of a combat team, damn proud of their successes, until one day he realizes that they were not simply training on a sophisticated simulators, but they were engaged in real battles destroying whole planets. In the sequel novel, "Speaker for the Death" Ender is older, trying to prevent a war and consequent annihilation of another civilization.

I remember headlines "What a beautiful war" illustrated with green fireflies in Baghdad's night sky during the first Gulf war. I am ashamed to admit that I swallowed it, and consequences of this fireflies were not my first thought when I watched TV. I allowed PR machine to seduce me and alienate me from real human deaths and suffering. I was, like Ender in the first novel, blinded by the virtual reality comfortably tucked in front of the TV screen. Death and suffering of others were left outside the field I was allowed to see. Of course, a little independent thinking will soon discover the reality behind the image. This is why people should not have any time for such unproductive activity and we are constantly bombarded with irrelevant news about celebrity divorces, artificially created controversy aver fictional problems, realities shows ...

I hope that boys in Virginia (or where ever they are) operating those drones will reach beyond a screen which represents their reality, better sooner than latter, and understand what happens to some people on the other side of the world.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Monday August 20, 2012, 9:48 am
Excerpt from Cover-Up of Civilian Drone Deaths Revealed by New Evidence:
"The new evidence also shows that the statistical tally of casualties from drone attacks in Pakistan published on the web site of the New America Foundation (NAF) has been systematically understating the deaths of large numbers of civilians by using a methodology that methodically counts them as "militants."
The sharply revised picture of drone casualties conveyed by the two new primary sources is further bolstered by the recent revelation that the Obama administration adopted a new practice in 2009 of automatically considering any military-age male killed in a drone strike as a "militant" unless intelligence proves otherwise.
The detailed data from the two unrelated sources covering a total 24 drone strikes from 2008 through 2011 show that civilian casualties accounted for 74 percent of the death toll, whereas the NAF tally for the same 24 strikes showed civilian casualties accounted for only 30 percent of the total."

Jelica R (144)
Wednesday August 22, 2012, 6:53 am
I'm not sure about former military people, John. Having a real combat experience, some might be against wars, knowing what it is, like Gen. Smedley Butler. Other might want to get even, ... In any case, both will probably suffer from PTSD syndrome...

Hard to tell.

Abo r (107)
Monday September 17, 2012, 11:50 am
Thank you Jelica for posting and forwarding .

Abo r (107)
Monday September 17, 2012, 11:51 am
Every life is holey , No for wars and No for killing and murdering.

Abo r (107)
Monday September 17, 2012, 11:55 am
Sorry I do not know what is wrong , I clicked on Note the number turns 26 then returns 25 , repeated 4 times but still the same problem ! do not why?

Jelica R (144)
Monday September 17, 2012, 6:23 pm
My (uneducated) guess is that care2 needs stronger servers...

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