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Wearing Pants Hinders the Administration of Justice


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Kindergarten, teacher, Helen, Hulick, Los Angeles, court, women, fashion, slacks, pants, contempt, justice, administartion )

Sam
- 1641 days ago - latimes.com
Kindergarten teacher Helen Hulick made Los Angeles court history -- and struck a blow for women's fashion -- in 1938.



   

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Sam H (410)
Saturday October 25, 2014, 12:59 pm
Judge Arthur S. Guerin may have had a point! Those who wore pants before Ms. Helen Hulick, certainly interfered with the administration of Justice. So the judge was relying on precedent as Helen was setting one.
 

Bruce C D (89)
Saturday October 25, 2014, 9:31 pm
Was it the pants or going braless?
 

Sam H (410)
Saturday October 25, 2014, 9:52 pm
I think itís interesting that the order was issued by to someone who showed up at work in his mourning clothes!
 

Kathleen M (0)
Saturday October 25, 2014, 10:03 pm
Noted. Thanks for posting, Sam. Had to deal with dress code nazis when attending parochial schools in elementary and high school. Of course, we had uniforms...but if girls were seen wearing pants, even out of school, they heard about it. I lived far enough away from the school to escape detection...one of the few benefits of living outside the French-Canadian enclave that surrounded Ste. Jeanne d'Arc Parish. Still, this kind of ridiculousness tormented me throughout high school, and into nursing school. Students were supposed to visit our assigned patients the night before clinical assignments, wearing skirts beneath our lab coats. Not many student nurses complied once the instructor left us in peace after the first few encounters. Most of us donned jeans half-way through the 3 month rotation, to the delight of all, save the traditionalists. Additionally, very few members of that cohort willingly don dresses, save for weddings, balls, and other formal occasions. Been close to 20 years for me...
 

Carol French (121)
Saturday October 25, 2014, 10:08 pm
Well Sam thanks for this light piece of history. This kindergarten teacher in 1938 had more nerve than I probably would have had at that time, * she wore pants to the court * the judge did not take kindly to that & put her in jail. Well this is where the good part is "the public wrote letters to the judge to free her" . He did! The Power of letters even in those days long ago, just goes to show that our word means alot more these days through social media.

 

Rose Becke (141)
Saturday October 25, 2014, 10:57 pm
Judge Guerin held her in contempt MORON
 

Maria Teresa Schollhorn (42)
Saturday October 25, 2014, 11:29 pm
Noted. Ridiculous and funny.
Thank you Sam.
 

Lona Goudswaard (66)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 4:45 am
Thanks for posting the article, Sam. It took us back to them good old days. It's very funny to read about the upset a woman created in court by wearing slacks in those days, but the judges who think they are king of their courtroom and rule on issues purely on the basis of their personal views and not on the law, are still with us today.
 

Angelika R (143)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 5:15 am
LMAO !! "..in his mourning clothes.."- FANTASTIC; THX SAM for my Sunday morning laugh!
Bravo hero Helen! In fact, she should have worn HOTPANTS ! (or come in the nude, ANYTHING better than that potatoe sack) )
At least, good on that Appellation court!
 

Angelika R (143)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 5:18 am
..umm , maybe I should add it ALSO shows the subtle sexism behind it all, those conservative judges(just like today,still) in truth only wanting to peek at some LEGS! (we KNOW, there are "leg men" and "boobs men" ;-)..and both)
 

Ellen J (62)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 5:19 am
Good grief. How times have changed yet remained the same.
 

Angelika R (143)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 5:20 am
Bravo Eleonora-only saw your comment NOW, after my submission-great minds think alike ^^)
 

Angelika R (143)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 6:48 am
BTW-good and correct observaton by Bruce as well!
 

Angelika R (143)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 8:14 am
-sorry Sam for off-topic, but here*s another hindrance of justice in some ways..how about that..pls SIGN.
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Freya H (345)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 8:45 am
This would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic. Denied justice because she wore slacks? OK, so this was long before the Women's Lib movement; but seriously! Here is more proof that mavericks are the ones responsible for all social, ethical and moral progress.

And to think there are forces in this country that would take us to back before even this.

What strides we women have made - but what a long path still lies ahead of us.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 9:28 am
This is too funny.......Thank you for the good Sunday morning laugh!!!!!
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 9:37 am
Love it..........I think Katherine Hepburn was one of the first women to wear slacks too.
 

. (0)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 10:49 am
I immediately thought of Hepburn too.
 

pam w (139)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 11:36 am
Nothing like a pompous fool to remind us of how far we've come...and how far we need to go.
 

Birgit W (160)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 1:07 pm
Our world is too artificial for me. Thanks for sharing.
 

Jonathan Harper (0)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 1:47 pm
noted
 

Lois Jordan (63)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 2:27 pm
Noted. Thanks, Sam. Yes, I see others thought of Katherine Hepburn.....Lauren Bacall was another. This is where the media, via entertainment, can have a very tangible influence on the public. I am so thankful for women like them.
 

Lois Jordan (63)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 2:28 pm
*Also thanks to Angelika....signed!
 

Joanne Dixon (37)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 2:54 pm
For decades I've thought that the wearing of pants (under their robes) by male judges obstructed the administration of justice - not the pants exactly but the male privilege of those wearing them. I see in his first comment that Sam had the exact same reaction. I certainly agree with those who admire the huevos demonstrated by Ms Hulick.
 

reft h (66)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 4:48 pm
I thank this woman, Katherine Hepburn, Lauren Bacall and the other early pants-wearers for helping to make it acceptable for us to wear this comfortable and practical piece of clothing.
 

Jordan G (37)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 7:28 pm
Hello? Coco Chanel?
Catherine Hepburn, anyone?
 

Bonnie Lynn M (1)
Sunday October 26, 2014, 8:46 pm
I can't imagine that she was wearing slacks while teaching kindergarten. That would be a very unusual school, not just in 1938. I don't know what teachers are wearing now, but even the female students had to wear a skirt or dress when I was going to school in the 50's and 60's. It would have been unheard of for a female teacher to wear slacks.
 

Sam H (410)
Monday October 27, 2014, 1:04 am
Yet another woman wronged in 2014 RIGHT HERE!
 

Jonathan Harper (0)
Monday October 27, 2014, 1:21 am
noted
 

Gloria picchetti (304)
Monday October 27, 2014, 1:30 am
I love the slacks in the photo so much I would love to have them in several colors and three pairs in black!
 

Angelika R (143)
Monday October 27, 2014, 4:54 am
Your report has been submitted to Customer Service. Thank you.
 

Winn Adams (179)
Monday October 27, 2014, 7:30 am
Hepburn was one of the first.
 

Jhn Wzt (3)
Wednesday October 29, 2014, 6:33 pm
tht girl had spunk thts fer sure :)
i certainly dun care if yu wear a dress or slacks thts yur business not mine :)
 

Abo r (107)
Tuesday November 4, 2014, 2:46 pm
Noted. Thanks for posting, Sam
 
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