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Is the Israeli Occupation Behind the Current Violence?

World  (tags: Israel, Israeli, occupation, illegal, government, Netanyahu, Likud, violence, West, Bank, Gaza )

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The most troubling issue is that successive Israeli governments remained blind and refused to connect much of the Palestinian violence to the occupation; what is worst is that the Israeli public has largely bought into the fallacy of this argument.


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Sam H (410)
Thursday October 29, 2015, 2:59 pm
The most troubling issue is that successive Israeli governments remained blind and refused to connect much of the Palestinian violence to the occupation; what is worst is that the Israeli public has largely bought into the fallacy of this argument.

Sam H (410)
Thursday October 29, 2015, 3:00 pm
They are persuaded by the pervasive and MISLEADING OFFICIAL NARRATIVE that even if Israel were to evacuate the West Bank, the Palestinians will not end their violent resistance to Israel's very existence.

Sam H (410)
Thursday October 29, 2015, 3:01 pm
Ironically, whereas this charge against the Palestinians is deeply ingrained among right-wing Israelis, they cheer the fact that many members of the Israeli government CATEGORICALLY REJECT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PALESTINIAN STATE on any part of the Jews' 'biblical homeland.'

Sam H (410)
Thursday October 29, 2015, 3:03 pm
Ironically, this suggests that Palestinian radicalism can be contained under occupation when IN FACT THE OCCUPATION ITSELF IS THE PRIME CAUSE behind the intensified Palestinian extremism.

Sam H (410)
Thursday October 29, 2015, 3:05 pm
If a handful of Palestinians have managed to cause such havoc with the entire Israeli security apparatus in place and thousands of Israeli troops stationed throughout the West Bank, BY WHAT LOGIC CAN ANY HONEST PERSON SAY THAT THE OCCUPATION BOLSTERS ISRAEL'S NATIONAL SECURITY?

Sam H (410)
Thursday October 29, 2015, 3:07 pm

Sam H (410)
Thursday October 29, 2015, 3:09 pm
I am not naïve enough to suggest that the current Netanyahu government will ever be willing to end the occupation. IT IS NOW UP TO THE ISRAELIS TO SEEK NEW LEADERS who will, because it is they who will pay the ultimate price THAT THE EVIL OF OCCUPATION will exact.

Kathleen M (211)
Thursday October 29, 2015, 3:33 pm
Grimly noted. Thanks for sharing, Sam. The Occupation is illegal, immoral and downright evil; of course it's behind the recent violence! Duh...

Darren Woolsey (218)
Thursday October 29, 2015, 4:26 pm
By any rational decent ordinary common sense reading of the situation, OCCUPATION IS WRONG.
Thanks Sam.

james C (8)
Thursday October 29, 2015, 4:48 pm
20 years ago my mom and dad left the UK to end their lives in Israeli, that had be their dream for years, after 2 years they came back to the UK. I asked them why, they told me that they could not live in a country, that is killing other people so they can take over their land. That was 18 years ago, and still it goes on!

Angelika R (143)
Thursday October 29, 2015, 5:11 pm
Media artices are getting more and more direct, precise, spot on, have you noticed?! Great sign tht is!
The words sound as if they were directly copied from all Care 2 threads, comments over the months and years ;-)
Thanks Sam, glad I touched in this late here, not really expecting a new post. What surprise!

@ james C- lucky your parents were allowed back out, they dont necessarily let everyone leave again. Must have been easier 18 yrs ago then.

Angelika R (143)
Thursday October 29, 2015, 5:18 pm
Let's see who's next in line. One professor after another are speaking out, this one hits home to the traitor Mr Schumer, nice one.:)

Maria Teresa Schollhorn (42)
Thursday October 29, 2015, 9:10 pm
Thanks for sharing Sam.

Lona G (66)
Friday October 30, 2015, 10:02 am
Thank you for posting this excellent article, Sam and for picking out, and highlighting, the most prominent paragraphs. At first glance this article strikes as a, what Dutch we call 'an open door' type of thing, an 'is the pope catholic' kind of topic. Of course the occupation - and the resulting Apartheid-like state - are behind the current violence; that is what has been expressed in comment over and over again here on Care2. But Alon Ben-Meir continues with a spot-on analysis of how this is seen in Israel, what the consequences are of following a fallacy AND he also describes possible SOLUTION, something that we have rarely seen before. He then pinpoints why there won't be a solution, this or any other, soon: The Israeli need to chose other leaders first, the current ones, headed by Netanyahu, are incapable of change or working towards a solution.

@ James C.: Kudos to your parents for realizing what Israel was turning into 18 years ago and not wanting to be part of it,

fly b (26)
Friday October 30, 2015, 12:51 pm
Behind, in front, left to right, under and over --- everywhere, in the beginning... until now, every day, the illegal occupation of Palestine and it's cronies shows it's detestable, ungly face to the world.

And America and Canada, take a good look-- U.S tax dollars to the order of BILLIONS annually for decades, enabled this outrage.

Time for outrage!

fly b (26)
Friday October 30, 2015, 12:53 pm
..shows it's UGLY face..(typo) AND... continues to lie to the world, destroy, steal Palestinians livelihoods and homelands, and terrorize them in their homes and on the streets.

Janis K (129)
Friday October 30, 2015, 4:05 pm
Thanks for sharing.

Freya H (345)
Friday October 30, 2015, 4:59 pm
Do mammals of the ursine ilk relieve themselves of solid bodily waste ejecta in regions characterized by numerous woody plants growing in close proximity to one another?

Rose Becke (141)
Friday October 30, 2015, 9:49 pm
I agree with Kathleen comment

Nicolai L (39)
Saturday October 31, 2015, 2:22 am
Thanks for sharing :)

Angelika R (143)
Saturday October 31, 2015, 7:20 am
Ros said it best, spot on and CONCISE!

Erika Acosta (0)
Saturday October 31, 2015, 11:54 am

Lois Jordan (63)
Saturday October 31, 2015, 4:56 pm
Noted. Thanks for posting this excellent article, Sam.
Definitely agree that Israel needs new leaders.

M B (62)
Saturday October 31, 2015, 6:17 pm
I repeat: 'Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities'. - Voltaire
Israel.they believe their own absurdities...hence the need for the occupation.
Thanks, Sam

Janet B (0)
Saturday October 31, 2015, 7:31 pm

Stephen Brian (23)
Sunday November 1, 2015, 8:21 am
The violence is continuous with other violence from before 1967. The PLO, for example, was founded with a violent mandate in 1964. It would take a hell of a coincidence to have one cause of violence vanish and a totally separate source appear at the same time. That's essentially what's getting presumed here, that the post-1967 violence is unrelated to the pre-1967 violence.

Now, obviously, that's a bit of a simplification, but in terms of appropriate ways of handling the violence, not too much of one. There is a mix. Some of the violence is motivated by causes related to Israeli military rule over the West Bank and Gaza Strip while some has other motivations. However, if Israel were to simply withdraw from the two areas and leave the Palestinians total freedom, the violence would actually get worse, not better. Among Palestinians, the motivation for terrorism, while reduced, would not compete with the fear of death and destruction, so less motivation would still translate to greater recruitment among the terrorist groups..Not only that, but with terrorists' careers being vastly extended without near-constant Israeli incursions into a "free" West Bank and Gaza Strip, there would be more violence per terrorist.

Farah H (155)
Wednesday November 4, 2015, 7:36 am
There will always be an occupation of land, interferences and harassments whether we like it or not. It is not a matter of choice, Israel will make any decision that finds convenient to secure its boundaries. We hope that one day peace will prevail, but when, where and how, this will be shown by time. If the solution is as simple as what the article suggests to end the occupation and elect new politicians and seek wise leaders, then why they are still waiting. In my opinion, the solution of the middle east conflict is much intricate than ending the occupation, it is directly and indirectly related to interests and security issues. Isreal will never find security even after ending the occupation because Israelis greediness exceeds the existing borders, it seeks to control the whole region and not only Palestine.
noted, thank you for sharing

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday November 4, 2015, 1:47 pm
Why do people think the hegemonic forces have been trying so hard to balkanize Syria? Farah said it pretty well.

Farah H (155)
Thursday November 5, 2015, 4:58 am
Thank you Angelika, it is not the hegemonic forces that we have to blame, they are just benefitting and taking advantage of the ignorance of the citizens and the betrayal of the leaders. Third world countries are just making things easy for bloody conflicts to flourish.
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