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That Is How Israel Is Supporting ISIS!


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Sam
- 1134 days ago - yahoo.com
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has acknowledged for the first time that Israel has launched arracks against the enemies of ISIS inside Syria.



   

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Sam H (410)
Monday April 11, 2016, 8:07 pm
At lease that’s one way it’s supporting ISIS!
 

Sam H (410)
Monday April 11, 2016, 8:12 pm
This is what the State Department says:

“…a person who is automatically granted another nationality does not risk losing U.S. nationality. However, a person who acquires a foreign nationality by applying for it may lose U.S. nationality. In order to lose U.S. nationality, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign nationality voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. nationality.”

But this is an interesting scenario:

“Conflicting military obligations can be threaten U.S. citizenship if, for example, a person’s second country of citizenship goes to war with the United States. Under U.S. law, anyone with U.S. citizenship who serves for an enemy country’s military during wartime will automatically lose his or her U.S. citizenship.”

The US is leading a coalition to bombard ISIS in Syria and Iraq. So a state of war exists between the US and ISIS.

Hezbollah is fighting ISIS with some degree of success.

Israel continually bombards Hezbollah’s positions.

Doesn’t that place Israel on the side of the enemy?

So any Israelis with dual citizenship, who are aiding and abetting the enemy, stand to lose their US citizenship.

So is the US ready to act against Netanyahu for siding with enemy?
 

Steve D (13)
Monday April 11, 2016, 8:19 pm
If only the US would understand that israel is the single biggest impediment to peace in the middle east ...
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Tuesday April 12, 2016, 8:16 am
Netanyahu is an irresponsible power possessor.
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Tuesday April 12, 2016, 3:58 pm

Sam - does this really surprise you? Have you forgotten that Bib and his Dep Def Min visited one of the injured "rebel" cum ISIS leaders in the IDF military field hospital in the Golan Heights in Feb 2014? To make matters worse they couldn't resist posing for a pic while shaking hands with the guy in the bed ... underlined with that horrible grin of Bibi?

On a side note: did you read the comments in the linked article to the postings of a person with the name "Palestine Peace Not Apartheid"? They make our hasbaratchik trolls on Care2 coming out smelling like roses ... which says a lot ;-)!!
 

Sam H (410)
Tuesday April 12, 2016, 4:16 pm
No Eleonora!

What would surprise me is somebody proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that either Netanyahu or al-Baghdadi is a human being!
 

Evelyn B (63)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 1:02 am
There have been a number of articles about IDF bringing injured Al Nusra fighters & their families into Israel for treatment - with a significant medical camp in the Golan Heights & delivery to hospitals for more complicated care ....

But clearly Israeli air strikes have reached further ....

Sam - I love the logic of your first comment! But you've forgotten the "special relationship" that extends exceptions & impunity .....
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 1:13 am
Steve D. and Sam H.
Human egoism is the root of the issues. . . .
 

Rose Becke (141)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 2:38 am
I agree with Darrens comment
 

. (0)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 7:01 am
without surprise or novelty. Do not let us eat the head with prefabricated news. Let's open our eyes, we clean our ears; Let us therefore focus so things are. TYFS Sam!!
 

Farah H (154)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 8:30 am
noted, thank you for sharing
 

Janet B (0)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 9:12 am
Thanks
 

Birgit W (160)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 1:28 pm
Thanks.
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 1:55 pm

Evelyn - I'm no sure if you refer to my comment. That specific guy was NOT an Al Nusra fighter and I'm not talking about families either. This was a clear cut case where an ISIS top guy got the "royal treatment" in Israel incl. a visit by Bibi and the Dep Def Min. It was important enough for them to go to the Golan Heights.

A bit different than a family being treated or a 5 yrs old kid ... which goes under humanitarian aid and for which Israel should be recognized.
 

Elize Labuschagne (181)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 2:20 pm
War have no boundaries!
 

Lois Jordan (63)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 2:30 pm
Noted. Thanks for posting, Sam.
 

Lenore K (0)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 2:59 pm
ty
 

Freya H (345)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 3:12 pm
Israel is its own worst enemy, and the biggest supporters of its enemies.
 

Veronica B (33)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 5:31 pm
Thanks for posting Sam.
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 5:33 pm
Thanks Sam. Nothing new here to me, as you know. In fact I had not even realized that Israel never publicly admitted these strikes that have been going on for ages. Maybe the Nutyhoo didn't but certainly Rivlin did retrospectively when he stated his satisfaction at his recent Moskow visit after Putin's announcement of partial withdrawel of aircraft from Syria. Pointing out relief that now Israel regains near full freedom of movement over Syria's skies for strikes. I think I commented that recently on another of your posts. But they've been smart enough to at least not mess with Hesbollah while these were busy helping the Syrian army achieve a remarkable series of victories lately liberating ISIS held towns. Israeli airforce has only been going after weapons transports they identified.
And yes, as Eleonora mentioned, we also do remember that visit to injured ISIS VIP. After all, lets not forget how much Israel too benefitted from their illegal oil trade!
I see that for once you had no need to pick a proper image, Yahoo did that for you, good on them! :-)
Yes, the logic in your contemplation about citizenship is irrefutable. In theory..
 

Maria Teresa S (42)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 6:57 pm
Noted. I'm not surprised. Thanks for sharing Sam.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 7:27 pm
Israel can do better than Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
 

Sam H (410)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 7:45 pm
You'd think so, Randy! The one who tried to make peace was assassinated by a Jewish extremist. Those who didn't take part in Rabin's assassination, assassinated the peace process by repeatedly voting for Netanyahu!
 

fly b (26)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 8:46 pm
well, what a surprise!!

Thank you, Sam
 

Colleen L (3)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 9:29 pm
Not surprised. Wish they'd support PEACE not Hatred. Thanks Sam
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Wednesday April 13, 2016, 10:51 pm

Sam - what a precise and succinct statement: "Those who didn't take part in Rabin's assassination, assassinated the peace process by repeatedly voting for Netanyahu!"
 

Margie FOURIE (148)
Thursday April 14, 2016, 5:40 am
Really disappointed.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday April 14, 2016, 6:04 am
On top of all above comments---the United States pays no heed and allows a 4th Israeli Company who works with the likes of Monsanto--all studying and experimenting with genomes, "making better plants, food, wheat in particular---to come to join Monsanto and their other 3 sister companies in St. Louis Missouri. Bless us one and all. If we have many folks on C2 who are at all in touch with their inner awareness, do your antennas go up? Where else have they infiltrated? But, we're not to be concerned. Thanks Sam.
 

Janet B (0)
Thursday April 14, 2016, 2:53 pm
Thanks
 

Raleigh k (358)
Thursday April 14, 2016, 10:08 pm
NOTED SHARED
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday April 15, 2016, 2:14 am

Sam - this is another piece of how Israel systematically assassinates the peace process - a comment which I put in the other thread about the Palestinian girl and which is suitable here to in light of your last comment above.

"These lies and activities are the true Israeli inciters for violence - anyone who doesn’t see and understand this is either a) absolutely gullible, b) has not much of a cognitive ability or c) is simply a hasbaratchik troll.

And let there be no mistake - the entire political world leadership is very well aware of the dirty expansionist games which are played by (Jewish) polit-Israel on the back of the (Christian and Muslim) Palestinians. It's just that it either 1) suits their goals or 2) they simply don't have the b**ls to stand up to Emperor Bibi.

Violence is the symptom – Occupation is the disease (Uri Avnery).

It IS that simple and straight forward!
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday April 15, 2016, 2:24 am

Sam and Angelika - reference to the side-issue mentioned by you - I thought this to be an interesting article. Pls read also the comments ...

Only Hillary Clinton Truly Understands What Being 'pro-Israel' Means … can one have the “honorary citizenship of Israel” like an honoray PhD? Killary Rotten Clinton surely would qualify …

One of the interesting comments by a "Benjamin Ben-Baruch":
“Eric Yoffe's support of Hilary Clinton because she will be the best candidate for Israel is an example of the tendency of most American Jewish organizations and institutions to organize themselves around the primary goal of supporting the Israeli state. Sorry rabbi, but my vote will be informed by my Jewish VALUES [emphasis added by me] and what I think is best for America. And when it comes to US-Israel relations, I believe that what is best for both the US and Israel is for the US to use its influence to pressure Israel to end the siege of Gaza and end the Occupation and to recommit itself itself to democracy and the protection of human rights for all people.”


 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday April 15, 2016, 2:27 am

Hihihi - please all the comments posted under the Hillary Clinton article ... excellent - especially #3 ... says what I've been saing since so many years ;-).
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday April 15, 2016, 2:28 am
Sorry for the typos - I'm in a rush ;-(
 

Nimue Michelle P (339)
Friday April 15, 2016, 4:01 am
Bloody hell.
 

M B (62)
Saturday April 16, 2016, 1:32 am
Thank you.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Monday April 18, 2016, 6:12 am
This has been known for months. The question is, what are Hezbollah even doing in Lebanon? And why do they need state of the art weaponry and missiles? They aren't the government.
It again is very simple, they want to hold the legitimate Lebanese government to ransom and eventually these weapons will be used to strike Israel, so that the Israelis attack the weapons convoys, well why wouldn't they?! They'd be fools not to.

The real villains in this are the Turks. Recruits, weapons and supplies reach IS through Turkey and Turkey buys stolen oil from IS and IS use the oil revenue to fund and continue their monstrous war.
 

Sam H (410)
Monday April 18, 2016, 6:33 am
Since you asked the question, John, here’s the TRUTH:

There was no Hezbollah in Lebanon before Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982!
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Monday April 18, 2016, 7:59 am
Sects, Cults, or Governments, NONE need weaponry.

And to add to Sam's comment there was no ISIS before Bush and Blair's illegal war on Iraq.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Monday April 18, 2016, 12:57 pm
And to add to my earlier comment, the Turks have been hammering the Kurds, severely hindering their advances against IS.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Monday April 18, 2016, 1:03 pm
Sam: And they've been a destabilising factor ever since! Their rocket attacks sparked the 2006 war and I would say it is almost inevitable there will be another war sooner or later.
They are occupying force, fighting an Iranian proxy war on Lebanese soil.
 

Angelika R (143)
Monday April 18, 2016, 1:08 pm
Here's another more recent episode with regard to the post's headline, concerning the Golan and Israel's cooperation with ISIS and JN(Jabhat al- Nusra):

"Al-Jaafari stressed that this provocative behavior by Israeli against the Syrian people, state, and government affirms indisputably Israel’s cooperation with Jabhat al-Nusra and ISIS terrorists who are active at the disengagement line in the occupied Syrian Golan and who occupied posts for the UNDOF.

“We had relayed repeatedly to the UN Department for Peacekeeping Operations documented information on Israel’s cooperation with al-Nusra and ISIS terrorists in the occupied Golan, presenting indisputable documents to the Under-Secretary-General for Peacekeeping Operations regarding the Qatari-Israeli complicity regarding the abduction of the Filipino UNDOF unit,” he elaborated.

The head of the delegation went on to note that Syrian freedom fighter Sedqi al-Maqet, who was detained by Israel for 27 years – the same duration that the apartheid authorities in South Africa detained Nelson Mandela – was arrested again by the Israeli occupation for documenting with visual and audio proof the dealings between the Israelis and ISIS and al-Nusra in the Golan.
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“It’s not a coincidence that the Israeli escalation by Netanyahu in the occupied Syrian Goal was accompanied at the same time by irresponsible and provocative statements by some members of the so-called Riyadh opposition delegation to the Syrian talks in Geneva, statements which for attacks on the Syrian Arab Army, breaking the cessation of hostilities agreement, and shelling Syrian towns,” al-Jaafari said, adding that the fact that these events happened concurrently proves the existence of close ties between Israel on one side, some Arabs on another side, regrettably, and the terrorists inside Syria." [-]

http://sana.sy/en/?p=74917
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Monday April 18, 2016, 4:56 pm

John - Hezbollah was founded to get rid of the Israeli occupation in South Lebanon as the Lebanese Government was unable and/or unwilling to fight for the liberation of all of its territory. In normal language they're called Freedom Fighters - in today's parlance and in order to suit the US/Israel needs to keep "The War on Terrorism" going ... they're called "terrorists".

I dare put in a correction, Darren: ISIS/Da'esh came into being only some 3 years ago. Bush and Blair are guilty of many war crimes and crimes against humanity but this one can't be pinned on them.

In line with Angelika's comment above - these are the main culprits - watch out for the book “The Dirty War on Syria” by Tim Anderson.

But there's ample evidence already now from reliable sources like the CIA, the US and other governmental sources. One just needs to activate the brain cells and connect the dots.



 

John De Avalon (36)
Tuesday April 19, 2016, 5:58 am
The Israelis entered southern Lebanon due to persistent shelling and other attacks on its civilians. They withdrew in 2000. Hezbollah are still there 16 years later. They're an occupying force. The Lebanese government certainly doesn't want them there, nor do most Lebanese.
 

Sam H (410)
Tuesday April 19, 2016, 9:53 am
Hezbollah is an occupying force and Israel is NOT! What a myopic gluteus maximus you’re looking through!
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Tuesday April 19, 2016, 1:26 pm

Sam, what's wrong with you? Those living in their homeland - where they are since centuries - are the occupiers ... while the invaders and colonizers are the "rightful" owners of the land. How long until you understand this?????
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Tuesday April 19, 2016, 2:28 pm
It's a misunderstanding, however or whichever way you want to approach it.

No man, group, organization, business, empire, etc. blah blah, OWNS ANY LAND. One can live on it, but no one owns it, unless one wants to produce a document where MOTHER EARTH has granted land to someone.

The sooner people, groups, nations and governments stop believing in the delusion that they OWN land, the faster this stupid, naive notion of occupation and subsequent wars can be got rid of.
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Tuesday April 19, 2016, 3:05 pm

Darren - you're absolutely right ... in principle.

But ... you watch out: those who produced the book in which it says that a God has promised them the land can also produce a document where Mother Earth has issued them the deed - LOL!! You wanna bet??

 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Tuesday April 19, 2016, 3:30 pm
Yep, I'm sure you're right Eleonora. . . . but then, I rarely understand religious or spiritual texts literally, like the masses do. . . so that's fine. Darren vs. Goliath.
 

fly b (26)
Tuesday April 19, 2016, 8:53 pm
"Why Does Israel Support ISIS?"

"From the outset of the foreign-sponsored insurrection in Syria, Israel has decidedly backed the armed opponents of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Reports have shown that Israeli forces have been providing safe haven, hospital care and even weaponry to anti-Assad militants, including to the most radical outfits like ISIS and Al-Nusra Front. On top of material and logistical aid, the Israeli air force has unleashed dozens of air strikes on Syrian regime and allied Hezbollah targets throughout the conflict."

"Top Israeli officials have repeatedly stressed that they would “prefer” an ISIS victory in Syria over an Assad victory."

Read more:

http://nonalignedmedia.com/2016/04/why-does-israel-support-isis/

http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2016/04/israel-support-isis/


Thanks for post, Sam. (unable to do links)
 

John De Avalon (36)
Wednesday April 20, 2016, 9:02 am
Sam: Israel aren't in Lebanon. Hezbollah are. They're an occupying force.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Wednesday April 20, 2016, 9:08 am
Darren: That's the core of the problem isn't it. They both claim the land. They either learn to share the land and live in peace, or they go on killing each other ad infinitum, or they end up frying each other in a nuclear last stand.
It's a no-brainer really, though the common sense answer seems to have escaped many people.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Wednesday April 20, 2016, 9:12 am
Jess: The Saudis and Qataris have an agenda ... The Turks have an agenda ... The Iranians and Hezbollah have an agenda ... The Russians have an agenda ... The Americans have an agenda ... The Israelis have an agenda ...

The Israelis agenda is that whilst their regional enemies - Assad, Iran and Hezbollah - are tied up in a slow bleed war against IS, they won't be bothering them. So for them the longer the war goes on the better.
 

Maria Papastamatiou (4)
Friday May 13, 2016, 11:42 am
Thanks for posting.
 
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