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The USA is embracing a new and innovative form of animal sheltering known as the No Kill Equation, this new model faces powerful and paradoxical opposition: HSUS, the ASPCA, and PETA challenge its widespread implementation at every opportunity.


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Carlene D (239)
Monday February 25, 2013, 4:03 pm

mar l ene dinkins (264)
Monday February 25, 2013, 4:04 pm
Notato marie grazie per il informazzione!!!!!!

Lee Hampton (15)
Monday February 25, 2013, 4:13 pm
I just wish these little guys lives happy, free without pain or mental anguish.

. (0)
Monday February 25, 2013, 4:32 pm
Clearly. this author does not understand that most shelters in this this country are kill shelters. He writes about the amount of animals killed in shelters in this country - this is all sadly true. What is the ASPCA, and the HSUS supposed to do about this? He is attacking two institutions without a clue to reality.
My shelter has 10 cages for dogs. I am a non-kill shelter. EVERY single day we receive 10-15 calls a day about animals that people want us to take in. We simply cannot. We tell them their only hope is to call their local animal control, where in three days, the animal will be put down. Whose fault is this? Ours? The national organizations?
Four years ago when I became involved in my shelter, we had a feral colony of 18 cats. This has grown to over 50. Why? People just dump their animals at our shelter. Do you want to hear stories of dogs being toed to our fences because they were told we could not take them in?
I could go on and on as I am so disgusted by this article, and its stupidity. This author needs a reality check, and a BASIC understanding of animal shelters in this country.
We adopt out 40-65 cats a quarter. This is incredible. As for dogs, 2-4 a quarter. For this author, this may not seem to be much, but to us, its everything.

linda b (31)
Monday February 25, 2013, 4:34 pm
Very sad!

Brenda Nelson (3)
Monday February 25, 2013, 4:43 pm
Kill shelters are also called open admission shelters, they take ANY animal in need.
Most no-kill shelters turn animals away when full and some pick and chose what animals they will accept, often turning animals away simply because they don't want a particular type of pet.
Because open admissions shelters take ALL pets and have limited funds and limited space they must euthanize.

The ONLY answer is for more people to spay or neuter - DO NOT blame the shetler!

Eternal G (734)
Monday February 25, 2013, 4:52 pm
"Whether by coming to the defense of regressive shelter directors, working to defeat progressive shelter reform legislation, fighting new and innovative programs to save lives, or calling for the wholesale slaughter of entire groups of animals in shelters, HSUS, the ASPCA, PETA are the biggest barrier to ensuring the survival of animals in shelters today. And with virtually unlimited resources raised through appeals and commercials that prey on the emotions of animal lovers with the false message that they will fight for animals, rather than against them, these groups present a powerful opponent to those working to reform cruel and abusive shelters nationwide.

We trusted these groups, content to write them checks to do the job of overseeing our nation's shelters while we looked the other way because the "experts" were in charge, and in so doing, have allowed our shelters to remain virtually unsupervised and unregulated for decades, with devastating results.

Only time will tell how long allegiance to their kill-oriented colleagues, to their antiquated philosophies and to their failed models will hold them from the success the No Kill movement can achieve the moment they decide to embrace it. But of this much we can be certain: it is a generous and animal-loving American public that pays their salaries. And the more Americans hinge their donations on an organization's sincerity, integrity and performance rather than its superficial label, the sooner our nation's large, animal protection groups will be forced -- by sheer necessity -- to start building, rather than blocking, the road to a brighter future for America's animals."

Thank you very much for this eye opener, Marie!
The more people know about this disgrace, the more these organisations will have to count their losses... the sooner the better. Forwarding!

Kathy Chadwell (354)
Monday February 25, 2013, 5:33 pm
In short, No Kill Nation is having to stand alone in this fight for a No Kill Nation because PETA, HSUS, ASPCA, & Best Friends refused to stand with them. I stand with a No Kill Nation. Thank you Maria & Eternal Gardner for the forward.

Edwin M (346)
Monday February 25, 2013, 5:47 pm
Thank you Marie and Eternal Gardner for the forward

Ness F (211)
Monday February 25, 2013, 6:10 pm
Thank you Marie and Ta for the fwd Eternal

Jae A (316)
Monday February 25, 2013, 6:16 pm
Tragic for all the unwanted/abused etc. animals. No easy solutions but doing the basics will certainly help if every pet owner would spay/neuter theirs and those who can help with their time/dollars, others to do the same for theirs if they have the means or way to get their pets to and from a vet etc.and to adopt when you can,as many as you can :-) care and provide for. .

tiffany t (142)
Monday February 25, 2013, 6:17 pm
petition signed thanks

Lee J (41)
Monday February 25, 2013, 7:03 pm
Why lay the blame at the door of those who have to deal with other human's lack of responsibility? Rather get active and spend time volunteering for a pro-active spay/neuter campaign - or working at a shelter to understand the .horror of having to deal with hundreds of thousands of unwanted domestic pets, etc. The sheer volume is overwhelming. My cat (see my avatar) is from a no-kill shelter - at which I volunteered until my (human) baby arrived... Support them - but I see no reason why the SPCA and other similar organisations should not also be supported - since they fill a role which most of us would weep at having to do. They have to take responsibility for those awful humans who do/did not take responsibility for their pets.

Catherine Turley (192)
Monday February 25, 2013, 7:50 pm
i see this issue in very much the same light as i see animal experimentation. people are under the impression that the current methods are necessary and the best we can do at this point in time. i disagree. i believe in sink or swim. we need to hold ourselves to a higher standard, cease the killing and let necessity be the mother of invention. if everyone refuses to kill, society will scramble to come up with a better solution. trust me, we will not sink. human nature propels us to swim.

Marie W (67)
Monday February 25, 2013, 8:13 pm
I posted this to bring 2 issues to light. The No Kill Equation and the questionable practices of the 3 major animal support groups of the USA. This is a well researched article.
I would not say that individual pet owners' responsibility is countermanded; nor that these groups are intentionally evil- but that there serious gaps between what we believe is happening and what really is. Without true accountability, which is not being demanded from Humane Society of the United States, the ASPCA, and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, we are being mislead.
While, I do believe in some situations they are helping; such as disasters/major rescues and general public awareness, I personally, have stopped giving to these groups for the most part, and am giving to local well vouched for shelter and rescue groups.
Like everything else read, research and decide for yourselves.

Renny E (13)
Monday February 25, 2013, 8:16 pm
Very sad (((

lee e (114)
Monday February 25, 2013, 9:00 pm

John B (185)
Monday February 25, 2013, 9:06 pm
Thanks Marie for posting the link to the very informative article by Mr. Winograd. We all need to be working for the "No Kill" shelter concept regardless of who is opposing it. Thanks to Eternal G. for the heads up on this posting. Read and noted.

Edith B (146)
Monday February 25, 2013, 9:21 pm
Thanks,Marie and Eternal Gardener. I all ready knew that all three of these organizations paid their executives and staff more than they spent on animals. I did not know they were fighting other people who were trying to help. We can all keep doing our part, spay and neuter, save what you can, educate your friends and neighbors and support your local shelters by volunteering or fostering.

Henriette Matthijssen (154)
Monday February 25, 2013, 9:23 pm
Take responsibility for your pets, spay/neuter & adoption is a lifetime commitment to those animals, you cannot bring them to a shelter when you get tired of looking after them, they give you the best years of their lives, you in return give the best years of your life for a lifetime to them until they depart to Rainbow bridge, then the shelters can handle the animals there without having to euthanize any. There is a home for every animal in shelters. People have to open their hearts to these living beings, they have so much love to give& have a right to life! And shelters are just that shelters until they find their forever loving home. Not a place where animals meet with death!

SuSanne P (193)
Monday February 25, 2013, 9:35 pm
Thank you Marie and Dearest Henriette for this fwd!

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Monday February 25, 2013, 9:36 pm
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Parsifal S (99)
Monday February 25, 2013, 11:04 pm

Marie primijetio hvala za informazzione !

pam w (139)
Monday February 25, 2013, 11:17 pm
Sad situation ... and it's NOT the fault of PETA, HUMANE SOCIETY, etc. It's the fault of stupid people who are irresponsible in their dealings with companion animals.

Dogs and cats are bred without any regard for the future and we see the results in overcrowded ''shelters'' as these animals are discarded.

It's heartbreaking, really.

Katka Oelmann (279)
Monday February 25, 2013, 11:37 pm
Noted. TY Marie & Henriette

Constance F (418)
Monday February 25, 2013, 11:46 pm
Thank you for posting. Bingo Catherine ! I completely agree. I am not into bashing PETA or HSUS because I know they have done good work, but there is muddy water - there is always muddy water, especially when presidents of major orgs start paying themselves over a half a million a year salary. Anyway, thats an aside. Why is it acceptable to kill animals because there are too many of them ? I question the mind that thinks that it's acceptable. Do we kill all the children in social services when they can't find foster parents quick enough. NO, we figure out a way to provide. What's the bloody difference ? Tell me what is the difference ! Thank you all for your great comments.

Anna Undebeck (256)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 1:54 am
Noted. So sad..
Thanks for bringing it up!

Donna Hamilton (159)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 3:32 am
So many needless deaths; absolutely tragic.

Noted. Thank you Marie and Eternal Gardner for the forward

Joy W (100)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 4:30 am
Noted, thanks.

Sarah G (109)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 5:12 am
The irresponsibility of overbreeding does not absolve Peta of the blame of their own actions of killing healthy animals, thwarting the actions of reputable rescues, and squandering money on ridiculous ads which could be used for actual animal care. One wrong does not excuse another. I am mistrustful of large "charities" with highly compensated executives and glitzy ad campaigns.

Mike M (40)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 5:13 am

Veerle V (44)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 5:16 am
Sadly noted. Thanks for bringing this up !

Michela M (3964)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 5:21 am

Daniel Partlow (179)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 5:26 am
This is shocking and disgusting. Even in this day and age, we must act responsibly to control the unwanted breeding of our pets and their often abandoned offspring. To be sure there are cruel and sadistic people at some of these shelters, but I believe there are many dedicated and loving compassionate people there too. Truth is they are being over run.Still it is shocking what is going on at some. We need better reforms and control.

Latoya B (23)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 6:02 am
While I hate the thought of innocent healthy sweet animals being euthanized every day I can understand why it happens and that it does not mean the shelters are bad. They are mercy killings.

Shelters do not have that much space or that much money. Those animals are living not much better than factory farm animals, day in and day out. Nobody wants to see them die but they shouldn't be forced to live like that, in cement and concrete, behind bars, trapped in with their own urine and fesces, completely alone with little to nothing to stimulate them each day. It is a cruel existence.

We need people to donate to those shelters, build better and more spacious ones. They should be animal sanctuaries instead of animal prisons.

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 7:21 am

Lloyd H (46)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 7:49 am
What? First off spay/neuter release is a great way to decimate migratory and native bird species as feral and at large pet cats kill at least 10 times the number of birds than any other cause of fatalities, because people are to damn stupid to control their pets so the number of ferals eventually goes down. Ans no-kill to what what point, just how many pets are to be forced to live in cages/shelters until they die. Seems a lot like a clean puppy mill without the breeding. And just where are all the shelters going to be built or expanded to accommodate the Hundreds of millions of animals you are talking about. And that is if you are thinking of only having a no-kill for just cats and dogs and ignoring the massive numbers of others animals, abandoned/seized horses are a huge number that require large amounts of space and food, then you have snakes and reptiles that require expensive environments, unless you are only worried about cute fuzzy house pets. And you can add in all the rodents and birds and other exotics you know like lions, tigers, bears etc. This is massive stupidity has any one, as I saw no mention in the article, bothered to figure out the cost for just how many new bigger shelters and/or massive expansions to existing shelters and the huge amounts of food and medical not to mention staff are going to be required. I am willing to bet that any sane estimate of the amount of money required is going to be in the TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS if not hundreds of billions when you figure that just for cats and dogs there is no reason to assume that the need is going to slow or end, people love and demand pets but as usual there is now way to force pet owners to be responsible and history as repeatedly proven. And by the way if they are really no kill do they just allow the old or sick animals to waste away and die. Sorry but there is no such thing as a three legged horse or cow as they can not survive unless you are willing to just watch them lay down and suffer unto death since you will not kill them. And NO you are not allowed to start making exceptions to NO-KILL and no sane person is going to assume that you can perfect a low cost artificial leg for horses and cows. Once again the the extreme has gone to the extreme without following the logical consequences of their extremism to its logical conclusion, they are just running down the Path of Feel Good emotionalism with blinders.

Ruth C (87)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 8:14 am
Please everyone spay and neuter your animals, don't allow more animals to die because of lack of homes for them!

Sara P (55)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 8:53 am
Thanks a lot to Marie and to my friend Eternal for sharing with me this important and dramatic issue, I will share it with all my contacts.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 9:01 am
That's why I support Best Friends. Heck, their mission is to make the nation no kill.

Constance F (418)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 9:01 am
Llyoyd, everyone here, most everyone here is aware of the problems you illustrated. But the mindset is beginning with the acceptance of killing, and that mindset which is the dominant mindset, will always fail to find the solution. Puppy mills, backyard breeders, cruelty to animals, breeding of exotic animals, breeding greyhounds for racing, yada, yada, yada, all becomes perfectly acceptable with the mindset of killing. Why ban or enforce because you have the option of disposing. You bet your bottom when you live in a city that is no-kill, when you begin with that foundation, what is tolerable in our society will not be tolerable in a no kill society. The USFWS and USDA kills millions of animals annually - and they would justify their actions and illustrate the problems in a similar manner - but the root is pandering to industries and an unethical regard toward other species which is no different from the perspective toward companion animals whether they're dogs, cats, horses, bunnies or mousies. All you see are the problems from the standpoint of a severely rotten foundation of which you are a part. Change the mindset - change the policies. That's the point ! But I have little hope.

naomi cohen (55)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 9:20 am
every word henriette said, i agree with. i have disassociated with these 3 groups for what i know is true. we must adopt our animals, they are our responsibility, just as a child is. you have given them the security of a loving home, and to take that away is despicable. thank you, henriette and sara. thank you, marie for this post.

Gillian M (218)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 9:32 am
Actually, I will not support financially Peta, Aspca or Hsus and, yes, I am in the UK but it does not stop Peta or these others from bombarding me with financial requests and demands. But I do support non-kill shelters world-wide, including America.

For those who support euthanasia, for any reason other than untreatable illnesses, you are deceiving yourselves. Send the article below to the ASPCA, PETA and HSUS and ask for their comments!

From Cesar Milan (and who can doubt that he has anything other than the welfare of animals as a priority) Last summer, while I was in Europe filming “Leader of the Pack”, I had the chance to visit Germany and see how they handle the stray dog problem. There, spaying and neutering is mandatory and subsidized by the government. Killing animals in shelters is not funded by the government — because they don’t need to. In fact, their program was so successful that they ran out of unwanted dogs, and their shelters had to start taking them in from neighboring countries.

Dany Strakova (123)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 9:34 am
thanks Marie for the article.I fully support Mr. Winograd, he has also a fb page. killing shelters and abusive, stupid owners are a disgrace for sure!

Gail Courtney (186)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 9:58 am
We have some 'no kill' shelters in the UK, but I only know of one teeny-tiny cat (and other animal friends) shelter close o me. About a mile from where I live; two ladies, spouses and children + volunteers. *my* special one is called "Cat and Kitten Rescue" and we're all in Walthamstow, London, England. I'm so glad the USA 'equation' is being met head-on by PETA
Gail & her animal pals

M B (62)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 10:42 am
As Henriette says: it's a lifetime commitment !!

roxy H (350)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 10:46 am
This is mostly bullshit.... I stand with the HSUS along side them in court many times... and it was proven the guy who wrote this article was at one time ousted by HSUS and wrote this against them out of some bullshit... so believe it if you want. I seen the court actions on my own 2 eyes.. I have NEVER seen this blogger do anything. he means nothing

Marjolein soederhuizen (284)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 10:59 am
I am certain most ppl take in or buy animals like dogs and cats to take care for them, but somtimes issues come up, age, illness and so on and u have to bring them to shelters, the ppl who just put them away are with many too, but think, if they would not put them waway, what else would they do to or woth their animals, its very nice to say what u have to do or whats allowed, but this is not the issue, the issue is, there will always be ppl who cannot handle their pet or they cannot make them a prioerty, ofcourse thats is no good, but thats what we already know, now solve the problem for the shelter which is getting overloaded, which is actually (sometimes too helas) not into caring that well, but gaining, if we all take care of shelters in our own surroundings, nearby where u live, that would aleady make a difference, just plan ur visits to these shelters and tell them u are willing to write a nice article about them, in a paper, facebook or anywhere u know, even when they are not that good, maybe that will help, visit them again after 2 months, if u dont see any difference, just act..... make them suffer, not the animals but the humans, by oposing them in any way......

Beth M (138)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 11:33 am
I agree with Nathan Winograd. I have taken the time for several years to research his statements and found them to be true

Laurie H (818)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 12:24 pm
This is sadly noted, Heaven knows we wish to do good for the animals we love so dearly. Seems like there's so much information out there, that things can become confused. I do believe in my heart of hearts in NO KILL and pray to live long enough to finally see the day! REAL Animal Rights is my dream---Thanks to all ---Thanks Marie for posting, Eternal Gardener, Henriette all who add their voices!!!~~

Tamara Hayes (185)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 3:21 pm
Needless to say, I just cancelled my monthly donations. This is extremely disappointing. Frankly I am quite stunned. Thank you Mary

Tamara Hayes (185)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 3:22 pm
Woops, sorry, thanks Marie

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 3:44 pm
So if all this really bothers us we should be visiting and monitoring all of the shelters in our neighborhood/town. More money needs to be raised more foster homes are needed and more people adopting are needed. Put an end to puppy mills and let everyone know that breeding just to breed makes you look stupid.......For years people have asked me why I do NOt breed my Icelandic horses since they are really valuable and my answer is is that WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH ANIMALS IN THE WORLD THAT NEED HOMES!! Anything you want to change required ACTION

greenplanet e (155)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 3:51 pm
No kill, spay and neuter, and happy, cared-for lives.

Star S. (54)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 5:31 pm
thank you for bringing this to my attention. It was heart wrenching to read the details, and I would dearly love to see these animals find a loving home.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 5:35 pm
more animals suffer and die bloody horrific deaths due to the fact that people decide to eat them. When will people decide NEVER to HARM ANY BEING? We are guests on this planet and have no right to remove the rights of any other part of this creation.

Aurea Aurea Walker (226)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 8:06 pm
For every dollar donated to the ASPCA exactly .01CENT - YES 1 PENNY! The CEO of the ASPCA makes $500,000 per year plus a private sedan and chauffeur to drive him about! Many social black tie events et al..... Do not donate to them, they are nothing but smoke and mirrors! Animals are not their top priority or tertiary importance. The PETA "rescue shelters" have a 95% KILL RATE! But oh yeah go vegan. If we unite and DEMAND changes in our laws to truly imprison animal abusers, stiff fines and cessation of those who run puppy mills we would eliminate some of the problems. We must also demand to have anyone who has a dog, cat etc.... To have them spayed or neutered. And most importantly TRUE NO KILL SHELTERS! Maybe then we might be able to turn the corner on these KILLING MILLS/animal shelters.

Kathy Chadwell (354)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 8:44 pm
LLOYD H.why are you here? FIRST off we spend billions of dollars every year to kill around 10 million companion animals. And there is NO LIGHT at the end of that tunnel. IF THE FAT LAZY politicians would get off their asses. We could pass laws to mandate the spaying and neutering of all companion animals. CLOSE down the puppy mills and the backyard breeders. Put limits on breeders. WOW what do you know,, there can be light at the end of the tunnel and these animals will no longer need to suffer or be killed just for being born

Giana P (398)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 10:49 pm
Noted. I don't have the emotional strength to comment!

Aurea Aurea Walker (226)
Wednesday February 27, 2013, 2:35 am
Clarification, for every dollar donated to the ASPCA one penny of that dollar is what actually is spent on the rescue animals.

Jeanne B (28)
Wednesday February 27, 2013, 4:13 am
Towns must adopt neutering policies to prevent this massacre. The next to which I live in France finances the neutering of street animals, provided someone is willing to feed them. It works well as it has tremendously reduced the feral population. As far as I'm concerned this is a public issue as I cannot see this violence being reduced by any other means.

Ellen m (215)
Wednesday February 27, 2013, 6:13 am
Alot of people aren't into politics, but most don't realize that the shelter problem is tied into the trickle down...
People lose their homes, jobs and the family pet loses in many cases.
If you can't afford to feed your kids, how do you feed your dogs?

And make it a LAW that you have to /nueter,or get a fine that is latger than the cost of the procedure,and you don't get out of it by getting rid of the animal, but you do if proof is given you had it done..

Thanks for the post and to Jim for the frwd.
If you want to be a breeder you shouldhave to put up a gigantic bond

Past Member (0)
Wednesday February 27, 2013, 7:10 am

P A (117)
Wednesday February 27, 2013, 7:56 am
Please support Trap Neuter Release programmes for strays!

They do work - and stop animals being murdered. As I am in the UK it was only on this site that I came across the 'kill shelters' and 'no-kill shelters' - at first I was bewildered - how can you have a shelter that kills animals? But in the US you can and do! This is a problem that can be sorted if people neuter their pets and Trap Neuter Release programmes for strays - you don't need to tacitly support murder then!

Very good article - thanks Marie and Philip A for forwarding. (The survival rates of some of the shelters in the article made me cry out loud - 1 in a 100 for some? VILE!!!). Tried to send a green star to Ellen M but the computer won't let me yet, sorry.

. (0)
Wednesday February 27, 2013, 8:06 am
I can not enter into the discussion because as an Italian I have no knowledge of the case.
Just a note, the Italian law punishes severely those who kill or mistreat animals in shelters and also we Italians are very fond of animals, here are about 59 million pets divided into various breeds dogs, cats, birds, rabbits etc.
Anyway this is a amount very important for a nation that has about 60 million inhabitants.
This means that no-kill shelters have a real reason to live, Italy is one of the many positive examples, regardless of the many points against previously posted.
really great post thank you so much for this Marie, thank also to Ethernal for the fw

. (0)
Wednesday February 27, 2013, 9:59 am
I stand with a no kill nation. No animal should be on a death watch. Thanks Marie and Philip for the fwd

Danuta Watola (1251)
Wednesday February 27, 2013, 10:19 am

Lisa Neste (204)
Wednesday February 27, 2013, 11:51 am
Noted & ditto Toni, thank you for posting Marie & to Philip for the forward.

Wim Zunnebeld (144)
Wednesday February 27, 2013, 12:50 pm
Noted, thx

Past Member (0)
Wednesday February 27, 2013, 12:59 pm

Past Member (0)
Wednesday February 27, 2013, 2:43 pm
I really don't understand why in America there are kill-shelters at all. They are unbelievably cruel, inhumane and shameful for America. I live in Germany, we don't have kill-shelters. The shelters here also don't get money from the government. They exist on donations, sometimes people bequeath them money or they get some money out of lottery winnings nobody claimed and so on. It's difficult but somehow it works. Of course the shelters don't have much money and often not enough room but somehow they manage without killing any animal unless it's sick without hope of recovery or so old that it can't enjoy life anymore. We don't kill animals in shelters just because they cost money and need space.

Judith Hand (55)
Wednesday February 27, 2013, 3:38 pm

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Paul Girardin (126)
Wednesday February 27, 2013, 10:29 pm
Sometimes it's good to sit down and reevaluate the groups around us that tell us they care for our animals, children, elderly, housing and many other concerns!

Asking questions is the correct way to go each time!

Very good article! Thanks for sharing!

Naomi A (3)
Thursday February 28, 2013, 2:39 am
So many feelings and thoughts reading through these posts.
I do believe in No Kill shelters, though this is first I have heard of them. Unfortunately, I do not believe in Spray and neuter for feral cats. Ive seen the total decimation of native animals in an area that feral cats live in. I dont want them to die but I want me native Bilbys, Numbats, Budgies,Tinkas, Quolls etc etc to carry on. They have a hard enough time surviving humans, let alone unwanted pets of people.
If they could be kept in giant enclosures.... If. ififififififififififif. Such a tiny word with so much weight.
I firmly agree with others sentiments, dont support PETA, HSUA or the ASPCA but definitely lobby them about changing their ways. They'll have to if they want to keep their big fat wage packets.

Traci Phillips (2)
Friday March 1, 2013, 12:19 am
I was big on ASPCA, but I think I'll stick to local shelters from now on. Thanks for the info!

Darlene W (289)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 1:53 pm
Thank you for the article-noted. Knowledge is power! Bless all who love Mother Earth and her inhabitants.

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 3, 2013, 6:35 am
local shelters

Nancy Black (308)
Sunday March 3, 2013, 1:03 pm
Noted, tweeted, tweeted, shared, and very angry. I support those animal organizations or I should say I supported them. I am writing a letter and resigning. They won't get my money anymore.

Past Member (0)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 12:04 am
good to get the truth out

Past Member (0)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 12:05 am
and, noted, thankyou
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