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Evelyn
- 1690 days ago - secure.avaaz.org
Conflict between Israel & Palestine can only be solved by a 2-state solution, negotiated in accordance with the principles of international law. It must guarantee both the Palestinians & Israelis' legitimate demands for national sovereignty and security



   

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Evelyn B (63)
Monday October 6, 2014, 2:57 pm
Sweden´s new elected priminister announced in his inaugurationspeech that Sweden will recognise the state of Palestine.

"The conflict between Israel and Palestine can only be solved by a two-state solution, negotiated in accordance with the principles of international law. It must guarantee both the Palestinians as Israelis' legitimate demands for national sovereignty and security. A two-state solution implies mutual recognition and desire for peaceful coexistence. Therefore Sweden will recognize the State of Palestine."
Please show your support to the Swedish government. Tell them that the world is supporting a free Palestine state. Now is the time!
 

jan b (5)
Monday October 6, 2014, 3:40 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_organizations

Hamas

Palestinian Islamic Jihad

Palestinian Liberation Front

Organizations above are currently officially designated as terrorist by various governments

( I don't know if one can negotiate with the devil.....it's been tried before. Israel's demands are sensible....and they want the disarmament of Hamas and other militant groups in Gaza that send rockets into Israel....... as well as the return of the remains of two soldiers killed in fighting which Hamas is believed to be holding.

All Palestinian factions say the demilitarisation of Gaza is not up for negotiation....even if they lost the war in reality. But Hamas publicly claims it is ready to share power in Gaza with the Palestinian Authority, which currently runs the West Bank
 

Evelyn B (63)
Monday October 6, 2014, 4:02 pm
Be fair, Jan - demilitarisation could be on the table parallel with removing the stranglehold on Gaza. If they give up their arms without ANY clear steps to removing the blockade, they are left with no visible means of pressure at all. Israel doesn't have a great record on respecting & fulfilling promises in these cease-fires ... Hamas actually has respected them longer, before reverting to rocket fire yet again.

If one really wants peace, both sides have to take risks in ceding as well as demanding. (And that doesn't only require agreements between Palestine & Israel, but considerable work to reach an agreed compromise between groups within Israel before an Israeli offer can be made sincerely ... and between groups within the Palestinian populations, with the same aim.

Don't forget, several Israeli statesmen were at one stage part of groups classified as "terrorist" ... as situations change, labels change.
 

Carrie B (306)
Monday October 6, 2014, 4:22 pm
Already signed and tweeted, but I think it let me sign again. Hmm.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday October 6, 2014, 5:27 pm
S+S-thx Evelyn
 

Sheryl G (359)
Monday October 6, 2014, 6:05 pm
Thanks for signing -- your name has been added to this petition!.
 

Justin Vale (13)
Monday October 6, 2014, 6:25 pm
this ain't going nowhere in a hurry.
the swedes are behind the times.
two state is dead.
they're as dumb as hamas.
the idiots in hamas could have come out unscathed from their recent dust up with the idf. their arsenal depleted, with no muslim brotherhood around to replenish it, but unscathed.
the laughable supposedly future leaders of the fictional palestinian state populated by jordanian expatriates accepted a ceasefire then came out f their bunkers and proceeded to break the ceasefire. smiling and talking tough right out in the open. they got their dumb behinds tony soprano'd. and they did it numerous times too. the only major hits they took was when they came out to break ceasefires. they seem to be very stupid. i mean i would imagine that if you're gonna break a ceasefire you're gonna tend to want to stay in your bunker.
a palestinian state run by these jokers or the other brain dead mob over in the west bank would look a lot like a marx brother's republic.
 

Rose Becke (141)
Monday October 6, 2014, 8:35 pm
Thanks for signing -- your name has been added to this petition!.
 

Evelyn B (63)
Tuesday October 7, 2014, 3:38 am
Ros - I'd tend to agree with you; any hope for two-state has been effectively crushed by the spread of settlements in Occupied Palestine - there's been a speed up in this that reflects a gvernment strategy to kill any viability of such a solution. Gideon Levy effectively addresses the question in Israeli Binationalism Is Old News

But there is a heck of a lot of work to be done before a One State Solution can be worked out & achieved. You mention the need for ICC - i.e. lay out, and recognise, the war crimes and the responsibilities for these, on both sides. But within each side, there are extremes of position - and work is urgently needed to bring together the various groups standing for very different values & perspectives, and slowly work to formulate a "tolerable" compromise between these. Only then could real work between the two sides progress towards finding a basis for building a future that can be accepted & adopted by both sides. It will be a long hard struggle - but if tackled with sincerity & tolerance .... one can hope
 

Evelyn B (63)
Tuesday October 7, 2014, 8:59 am
I think we're talking about different things, Ros.
ICC investigations are a separate matter - no compromise there.

But among the Israelis, there are groups like the extremist settlers & extreme Zionists, who don't consider that Palestinians have ANY place, it should be a Jewish State for Jews only (& claim, for example, that "the Arabs" only came in relatively recently anyway) ... there are those who don't necessarily want the Palestinians to be forced to get out, but have learnt total distrust & fear of the Palestinians ... there are those who believe that the Palestinians are being oppressed .. An Israeli "compromise" position for peace building requires getting all these groups to agree to a common page. All these different groups have to come to some agreement on a common "minimum" that they can all accept, and commit to it.

On the Palestinian side, there are also some extremist groups who just want to get their homes, their land back, some of whom support violence as the way to act for this; there are many groups who want their own state, free of Israeli oppression, while accepting the '67 borders - they're prepared to recognise Israel (indeed, they already do) but do not want to be part of it - not least, because they don't trust that they'd have absolutely equal rights with Jewish Israelis. Among these, there are those who are prepared to use violence to achieve their (already reduced) dream, and those who determinedly adopt non-violent resistance. Some of the latter would accept one state ... providing they are guaranteed equality under all laws (including in ways not currently true for Israeli Palestinians - freedom to live anywhere, move around freely, not be excluded from certain jobs ... All these different groups also have to come to some agreement on a common "minimum" that they can all accept, and commit to it.

Only then can a definitive agreement, acceptable to both sides, be hammered out.

Agreements between oponents always require compromise.
Heck - even agreements within a love marriage require a tolerable compromise!!!
 

Abo r (107)
Tuesday October 7, 2014, 4:06 pm
Noted signed thanks
 

Abo r (107)
Tuesday October 7, 2014, 4:09 pm
If you agree or you do not agree Palestine will be free.
Do you remember what happened to the settlemsnts in the Egyption part before the IOF withdraw from Al Arish and SAINI ?
 

Abo r (107)
Tuesday October 7, 2014, 4:53 pm
Thanks Rose.
Palestine will be free and IOF will withdraw and settlement will face the same of what happened when the IOF withdraw from EGYPT land settlement finished ... do you remember YAMIT , Ghosh Qateef so on is not existed the IOF build them during its occupation and destruct them before its withdrawall and Egyptian land is free and of course PALESTINE WILL BE FREEand will celebrate together the freedom day in Jerusalem ... this is not a dream it is a fact and will be if agreed or disagree palestine will be free.
THANKS FOR THE SWEDISH GOVERNMENT started withe first step ahead.
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday October 8, 2014, 3:13 pm
signed from email, thx Evelyn.
That road to a free Palestine is indeed a long one, it could be shorter of there was no mingling from 3rd parties, none of which so far ever had in mind anything other than self-serving own interests.
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday October 8, 2014, 3:58 pm
VIDEOS to be watched! on BDS
 

Lona Goudswaard (66)
Thursday October 9, 2014, 2:52 am
Please excuse me for quoting myself, but I haven't got the time to explain in other words why I signed the petition:
"Whether it is going to be a two-state solution, a one-state solution or something entirely different altogether, doesn't really matter and I think the Swedes are well aware of that. The point is they recognize the Palestinians as a people, and as a people who are entitled to their own state and have to be respected in any negotiation as such by Israel. The Swedes want to send both the Israeli and the Palestinians a signal that they should work on a solution as equal partners."
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday October 9, 2014, 4:03 am
Ros just beat me to posting that update- here's again with live links for our British friends:
9. Okt. 2014 — On Monday morning, 13th October, MPs will get the chance for the first time in years to debate and vote to recognise Palestine as a state. MPs to vote on Monday to recognise Palestine: please make sure your MP is there to vote! If you haven’t already contacted your MP, please do so viahttp://act.palestinecampaign.org/lobby/Palestine.
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday October 9, 2014, 4:23 am
Ros, not sure what you're trying to tell me in your 1:58 am comment, what did I do or say wrong this time?
I was only pointing out the mingling by 3rd parties for decades, read the US, alledgedly helping Palestinians to come to freedom and their rights when we all know it's been a charade.
 

Abo r (107)
Thursday October 9, 2014, 9:40 am
YES Rose and Ange my grand father and my parents along thier life and since 1948 they are dreaming of return to thier house to thier pardase and fields .... they always were telling me and the rest of the family that they are returning and passed before they said we forced to leave our house under shooting from the HAGANA the IOF group , we thought it is temporary for days and left all our things in the house due to the shouting and hope of return.
Dreams will be true hopefully during our lifetime
 

Evelyn B (63)
Thursday October 9, 2014, 10:14 am
The Thunderclap link mentioned by Ros: #Freedom4gaza

Just one of the first step events I do so hope we'll see soon ... because too many left their homes, with a minimum and expecting to be able to return soon .. Like Abo's family, like other friends' families, like far too many families ... (And like many Jewish families in the '30s & '40s .. How COULD they do to others what was done to them?)
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday October 9, 2014, 11:32 am
Thx Abo for sharing part of your personal story with us. Be assured that we all keep hoping and praying to see that goal fulfilled, not as a dream but reality!
 

Sandra Penna (135)
Friday October 10, 2014, 11:49 am
noted and signed. thank you, Evelyn, and Jess for the forward. "thunderclap" already done. stay safe, Abo.
 
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