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This Mall in Turkey Let Homeless Dogs Sleep Inside to Escape the Cold


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Evelyn
- 802 days ago - onegreenplanet.org
Even with all the horrible news we read about animals, there is still good in the world. After a recent snow storm hit Turkey, the Atrium Mall opened their doors to homeless dogs so that they wouldn't have to spend the night in freezing temperatures.



   

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Evelyn B (63)
Thursday January 12, 2017, 2:12 pm
Remember how some people would have us believe that Muslims hate dogs, are cruel to animals?!!

I've not seen such malls opening up for strays in France or the UK under an extreme cold spell ! (Nor even very often, incidentally, for homeless people)
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Thursday January 12, 2017, 2:36 pm
Shared article over social media to raise and spread awareness.
 

Barb Knight (1687)
Thursday January 12, 2017, 2:57 pm
I'm very impressed!! I only wish they could stay for more than just one night! I shared on FB!
 

Animae C (508)
Thursday January 12, 2017, 3:10 pm
Evelyn radical muslims DESPISE dogs, i have experienced it personally, i have been lectured by a couple of young lads on how filthy dogs are & how i should get rid of my darling pup who's been with me for over 12 years.

It's beautiful that these malls have allowed the pups in, you're right this wouldn't happen in Australia either but then we don't have many homeless animals, although people are on the rise!
i do wish these pups could find permanent warmth & comfort!
 

Animae C (508)
Thursday January 12, 2017, 3:12 pm
i forgot to add that those young guys mentioned i had to because Muhammad said so.
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Thursday January 12, 2017, 3:14 pm
So, the fact that THEY SPIT on pavements, is perfectly healthy and clean then. . . ?
 

Evelyn B (63)
Thursday January 12, 2017, 4:36 pm
Spitting on pavements - and fear of dogs - is cultural not religious.

And extremists of any religion are intolerant - What I find disappointing is that too many people claim Muslims (as a population category) hate dogs - which is untrue. Some extremists ... do not represent all those who are from a same religious background. I'm sorry you had an encounter with such extremists, Animae - but I know many Muslims (in a range of countries) who keep dogs and are very attached to them. Mostly, admittedly, not the poorest families - but then, not so many poor Christians can afford to keep pets, either.
 

MmAway M (522)
Friday January 13, 2017, 1:55 am
Thank you Evelyn for posting this. Those photos were absolutely precious to what I have seen in petitions tonight and if I had the $ I did 30 years ago I would so give. For now...this Going to copy bit of your news w/o those precious animals with covers and I will VOTE!!! Going to see numbers

"We are thankful the Atrium Mall in Turkey opened up their doors to allow the homeless dogs a warm place to sleep for the night. Even though Istanbul may seem far a way from the United States, many people don’t realize the extent of the pet homelessness issue right here. While we love and adore the dogs we share our homes with, the fact that there are some 70 million stray cats and dogs living on the streets gets easily ignored.

Taking the extra steps during the winter months will make sure our furry friends stay safe and warm. Most importantly, please never leave your dog or cat outdoors when the temperatures drop. No matter what the temperature is, wind chill can threaten a pet’s life. Pets are sensitive to severe cold and are at risk for frostbite and hypothermia when they are outdoors during extreme cold snaps. Exposed skin on noses, ears and paw pads can quickly freeze and suffer permanent damage. It’s also important to make sure your companion always has access to fresh, clean water. For more tips on how to protect your pet during the winter months, click here and please share with your friends and family.

If you’re considering welcoming a four-legged companion into your home, please always adopt and never shop. And if you’d like to get involved with your local animal shelter, check out our guide to volunteering. What may seem like a small action can make a huge difference!"
 

MmAway M (522)
Friday January 13, 2017, 1:58 am
At least this Vote got the correct reply 2 no and 800+ yes...Hope I'm not missing something here.
 

fly b (26)
Friday January 13, 2017, 2:12 am
ty Evelyn for sharing.
Of course, extremist thought , traditions, or ideology of any sort, can result in actions that are less than desirable to many..
and extreme.
It is true, I agree, culture, not just religion, alone, does influences human actions.
Religion is part of culture, but culture is not part of religion.. it would seem
Rituals and so called 'religious' practices have, often, been extreme. Extremism in all it's form, remains. Nothing has changed
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday January 13, 2017, 2:36 am

Oh this is such a heartwarming story, Evelyn, thanks for posting it. It should also be noted that during the hot summer months in Istanbul and other cities water containers are put up everywhere for the dogs and cats to drink from. Rather cruel I would say and so typical Muslim ...

While poverty is increasing everywhere and here in Egypt it's getting very very tight for many (even the middle class is affected) it doesn't stop many people from caring for the street dogs. Our watchmen (who are normally among the poorest and come from villages to town to earn a penny) often "adopt" one and give it shelter, food and water ... whatever food is left or they sort out the garbage and give them what people throw out. No, they don't take them into their places (which if often one or two rooms at best) but they make sure they have shelter and food.

Many are scared though because of stories going around of dogs being aggressive. Yes, there are incidents but probably because the gods were either sick or mistreated in that stones where thrown at them or towards them to shush them away.

One thing is sure - one should stay away from generalizing because of some bad guys. After all we don't claim that all Australian, Swissies, Americans, Koreans, ... are bad people because some of them skin their dogs alive, tear their limbs out while they're alive in order to make the meat taste better ... or explode firecrackers in their mouths to see how they react (all stories from non-Muslim animal abusers).
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday January 13, 2017, 2:40 am

Ops ... what a (befitting) mistake ... it should naturally read DOGS and not gods ... just spelled backwards - LOL
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday January 13, 2017, 2:47 am
As for your encounter Animae – I’m sorry that you had to go through this; I know how much of a pest those “righteous bearded retards” can be!! As Evelyn already said extremists of ALL religions are intolerant; it comes with the "territory" of being extreme. I just don’t see why they would come up to you and lecture you? Such guys usually don’t approach unknown women.

As for what Mohammed said and didn't say - those guys should maybe read the Qur'an again ... or maybe for the first time?! They couldn't have it more wrong!

Muslims consider the saliva of dogs unclean because they sniff everywhere and stick their nose in everything. Hence, Muslims are advised to wash very meticulous before they pray if they have a dog. Doesn't sound very hateful to me but it's rather normal and common sense. But then – they must wash anyway before they pray.

We have many Muslim friends who have dogs and they all laugh at such crazy ideas which have not foundation in their religion.

Regarding personal hygiene around pets - I do have a dog and cuddle him a lot and play with him often. It goes without saying that afterwards I wash my hands thoroughly as he is in and out of the house goofing around outside and checking everything thoroughly – LOL - and before I touch food or start cooking I wash my hands with Citéal (an anti-bacterial cleanser); that's how we were brought up in our mixed Christian house (we had all kind of pets) and my parents were nowhere near religious leave alone fundamentalists.

Yes - there are no doubt those extremists that propagate such garbage - but thankfully they're an absolute minority even among the extremists. Sorry that you have to fall on some of them. If you ever have such an encounter again just tell them to go read AND understand their holy book and what their prophet said! There it is spelled out in a number of verses that all animals must be treated kindly and mercifully and that ALL form of animal cruelty is forbidden.

I hope you follow this link and read this article: Dogs in Islam. It’s short and concise and pictures reality – not some garbage propaganda from either one of the political camps… ;-).

 

Past Member (0)
Friday January 13, 2017, 9:27 am
Love this story--never gets old. Just hoping the kindness towards homeless pups/all animals rubs off on many more. thanks
 

Peggy B (43)
Friday January 13, 2017, 12:48 pm
Wonderful people
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Saturday January 14, 2017, 12:56 pm
I got this message from my Australian friend Ros and would like to share it with everyone (with her permission to copy/paste) here:

"Wonderful heart warming story....Dear Evelyn.....you are correct when saying "spitting" is a cultural thing......having lived in small towns around Australia with high Indigenous populations....they too spit as they walk along the streets..but they are dogs lovers and will take the strays back to their Missions and the whole community will help shelter and feed them....noticed that Sudanese also spit as they walk along.....don't know what their religion is or what they think of dogs.. haven't had a chance to befriend any at this stage.

As for our stray dog/cat policy is here in Australia....if they are caught by the Council Ranger and impounded....if not claimed/adopted/fostered within a certain time frame they are euthanized.....the same goes for all our Animal Shelters but on a brighter note: you will find bowls of water left out everywhere in summer."
 

Evelyn B (63)
Saturday January 14, 2017, 2:28 pm
Thanks for sharing Ros' reaction, Eleonora *****************************

And she puts her finger on exactly why there aren't so many strays needing shelter in our "advanced" civilisations ... our systems put "to sleep" those not adopted rapidly. As they do those animals that should be in the wild but who, for any reason, end up happily sharing the home or farmland of some humans (against the law).

Whereas in places like Istanbul & Cairo, poor people put food out for homeless animals ... Except, of course, when they have some kind of VIP event bringing foreigners (so then the animals are rounded up to get them out of sight of those - mainly Westerners - who don't appreciate seeing stray dogs & cats. (As happened in Sochi at the time of the Olympics, for example - probably also in Rio)
 

fly b (26)
Saturday January 14, 2017, 4:28 pm
Thanks Ros, for your comment. ********

And Eleonora for sharing it. ******
It will always be, that people who care about animals, has no basis in what some call 'religion'.

'We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals.' - Immanuel Kant

“If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans.” ― James Herriot, All Creatures Great and Small

Thanks, Evelyn
 

fly b (26)
Saturday January 14, 2017, 4:36 pm
"If all the beasts were gone, man would die from loneliness of spirit, for whatever happens to the beast, happens to the man."
--Chief Seattle

"He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals."
--Immanuel Kant
 

fly b (26)
Saturday January 14, 2017, 4:45 pm
"I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it."
--Abraham Lincoln

"I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being."
--Abraham Lincoln
 

fly b (26)
Saturday January 14, 2017, 4:50 pm
"All cruelty springs from weakness."
--Seneca (4 BC - AD 65)

"In studying the traits and dispositions of the so-called lower animals, and contrasting them with man's, I find the result humiliating to me."
--Mark Twain (author)
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Saturday January 14, 2017, 10:23 pm

Jess - I just love all the quotes which you thankfully collected and published again here. They should serve us as a constant reminder how we should be and behave!! Sadly - the majority doesn't listen!
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Saturday January 14, 2017, 10:37 pm

Evelyn - you're spot on with your last comment! As Ros already pointed out ... we civilized people found the solution: we eliminate those "undesirables" ... If memory serves me right we had this already a number of times in the past, didn't we?! Certain things don't change. It seems we "humans" always have to feed our need to go after someone and preferably eliminate that someone!

As you're familiar with Cairo (and Egypt) you know that we have a rather distinct garbage problem ;-(. I often see watchmen sifting through the household garbage, getting out the leftovers and placing them on the side so the street dogs and cats can eat them. Many tenants do the same - they place food left-overs which they have no use for anymore on the side of their entrance for the animals to eat.

It's a common sight that dogs and cats peacefully have their meals together ... which makes me wonder why my little rascal can't stand the sight of cats and gets all flustered when they come into our garden ... ;-).

As for the VIP issue: yes, the thinking is very disturbing that those VIPs shouldn't be bothered with the sight of street animals. Here they often "clean" posh places like Zamalek (where many foreigners and Embassies are) in that they kill the street animals; they used to shoot or poison them. Which brought the animal activists out in full force. Last time this happened was under Pres Morsi. I'm sure it still happens but it's just hidden from the public as from time to time we wonder were all those beautiful street dogs have gone. Some are real beauties; big, strong and thanks to the garbage rather well fed.

Sadly there are not too many who ask about them ... and in the "civilized" world this problem can't even surface because it's all done in shelters - what a cynicism to call them shelter ... and just kill the animals in there!

 

Evelyn B (63)
Sunday January 15, 2017, 6:20 am
If one looks at context, rather than religion -

Stray animals can be a health risk to other animals and to humans - which is a factor of fear of them in some contexts. Understandable - after all, even in wealthier countries, there are many people who fear dogs (including other people's family pets, who've been vaccinated etc!). I've friends in Istanbul whose kids had to go through the painful experience of rabies shots after being bitten by a stray (and they could at least afford the treatment).

Here on C2NN, we've seen articles about abuse of cats & dogs in the US - and apparently not only by nasty "human" children afraid of the animals but also by nasty youth (seem to be males, usually?) who just get a kick out of it. So it isn't surprising that in other countries one can also find examples of violence towards animals, especially strays - but that isn't reason to categorise all people of that country, or that cultural/religious background as being cruel towards, or hating, animals.

Except when there is illness, most animals (strays or pets) are not instinctively aggressive towards humans ... unless their experience has been bad with them, or if they've been trained to be aggressive. It's not the fault of strays if they are liable to share their fleas with friendly humans!! (Actually, in some circumstances, humans also have parasites they share with others - fleas, lice, & various bugs!!!)

But as you say, Eleonora - many of those who can't afford to keep a pet take good care of strays whose paths they cross - in Muslim communities, Christian communities, and others ... It's a social attitude that is only loosely linked to any particular religion. Those who don't like or who fear strays (and pets, come to that) can search for - & find - "good" reason to keep animals at a distance, but basically, it's a reflection of an initial distrust/ fear ... usually personal or family-related, sometimes due to a community figurehead who is distrusting of animals. (Come to think of it - the same is true about ANY differences, & beings who are different! After all, a very small child who is curious about new things is no more afraid of four-footed new encounters than about two-legged ones! Irrespective of fur/hair, colour, racial traits etc ...)

 

Evelyn B (63)
Sunday January 15, 2017, 6:21 am
Jess - thanks for that great collection of quotes!
 

Evelyn B (63)
Sunday January 15, 2017, 4:26 pm
Comment from Ros:

Another copy and paste response if you please:

Many thanks for the quotes Jess*********************and also the ongoing comments Eleonora and Evelyn:

Fear of dogs.........I was raised to fear dogs....only got over it in my mid 50's..and are still wary.....you see my parents lived in Nazi Germany when they were young children/teenagers......their homes would be raided several times a week by the SS with their pets.....yes I call them pets....because they were loved, well feed and faithful to their one protector/family.....and they were trained to guard and defend....an immobilize others on command......

As for cruelty to animals was reading an Australian research paper that young children who purposely hurt their pets will be more inclined to become violent adults....it's a form of sadism.....that was almost 30 years ago.....

Also reading the other day that there is a rise of Hydatid disease in Australia..and handlers of dogs.......should take extra precautions..to avoid becoming infected.

So you really have to admire all those that take care of stray animals no matter where they are......it does have its risks......to them personally.
 

Evelyn B (63)
Sunday January 15, 2017, 4:27 pm
Thanks Ros, for keeping an eye open here! ****************************************************
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Monday January 16, 2017, 11:19 am
Yes, Ros - I do remember those stories about the dogs and the SS which were told to us as kids. There are always dark/evil ways to use animals.

As for cruelty to animals ... it is said that GW Bush used to put firecrackers in the mouth of living frogs and ignite them ... might explain why he had no qualms to kill hundred of thousands of people decades later?!

As for the tapeworms in animals - this is one of the reasons why we never feed Buddy raw meat and/or intestines. He only gets home cooked food and thrives on it. I do admit that I refrain from touching the street animals and if it happens nonetheless I take care of disinfecting my hands properly afterwards.

So happy that you still participate and we don't need to lose your valuable comments!!
 

Evelyn B (63)
Monday January 16, 2017, 11:59 am
Eleonora, I don't know if that's true, or just another urban legend about GWB -
But you remind me of an old joke - too long to tell in full here, but you'd have no trouble adding the "padding"!

The story of a woman who goes to Freud's clinic - terrible problems with her child, who pulls wings off birds, sets light to stray cats, hangs stray dogs up by their tails etc.

Freud works with the child for months.. Finally, he asks the mother to come for a discussion.

"I'm so sorry - but nothing I do seems to make any difference, Frau Hitler."
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Monday January 16, 2017, 2:52 pm
Reshared article over social media to raise and spread awareness
 

fly b (26)
Tuesday January 17, 2017, 4:17 pm
I love dogs, and I understand how anyone could be made to fear or abuse them, or anything else, from trauma, suggestion or from passed down attitudes or victims/witnesses to abuses.... conditioned reactions.

I heard, a long time ago, that some children hurt pets/animals because they feel unloved or rejected.

Maybe freud had something to say about that..

seems like bullies grow up, sometime, bullied, and go on to bully or hurt those 'weaker' or 'soft' targets..
like kids, who hurt insects.
sad reflection on childhood, etc.

Thanks Eleonora for sharing
 

fly b (26)
Tuesday January 17, 2017, 4:17 pm
Thank you, Ros !!!

************
 

fly b (26)
Tuesday January 17, 2017, 4:19 pm
because I can't send Ros stars, here - sending them across the night sky and oceans
 
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