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Occupying America: Sowing the Seeds of a Second American Revolution

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Lets hope we can keep OWS Peaceful. We will need to educate many walls of ignorance of the comfortably numb, still drunk in a land of material wealth, who still defend to death a status qua which hasn't worked for the people for a long time.


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Arild Warud (174)
Friday October 21, 2011, 2:34 am
Go for it!!! Thanks Michael.

Agnes N (703)
Friday October 21, 2011, 2:55 am
Thanks Michael

Ellen m (215)
Friday October 21, 2011, 3:37 am
I'm trying to do my share, but your right, its not going to change as quickly as most want...but it will change.
That teachers message was powerful, and the music, ok.
Take a look/listen to Willie Nelson's "Whatever happened to peace?" on you will give all pause.
Thanks much Michael. 1love

Lynn Squance (235)
Friday October 21, 2011, 4:13 am
Sitting here north of the 49th, in the months after Mr Obama was sworn in, I started to hear rumblings from various corners about this and that not being addressed. And I would get so annoyed because I know that change takes time. And when there are so many things that need to change, it takes even longer. And the grumbling continued. "Why don't they give the man some time?" I lamented. I was beginning to think that the entire political 'thing' in the US was at least 6 fries short of a Happy Meal!

Mr Obama had clearly said he wanted a bi-partisan government, which I thought was good. Unfortunately, like spoiled little brats in short pants, the Republicans kept throwing balls through the Congressional windows. Then in the 2010 midterms, the people thinking things were still taking too long, decided to make some changes. This was one of those times when the changes didn't work so well and everybody fell down with scraped knees. So now, Mr Obama is faced daily with the Congressional bullies, no longer content to hit balls through the windows, they are going to bring the whole neighbourhood to its knees just to prove they can. The bullies don't give a rat's ass about any one except themselves and the very few friends that they have --- otherwise known as the 1%. I still shake my head at the mess and think that this has to be the most dysfunctional family ever.

To the OWS protesters, you're doing great! Keep it non violent! I look forward to seeing the results of your Congress of 04 July 2012.

To the rest of the 99%, it will take time for the full effect. After all, the country didnít get into this mess over night, and it wonít get out over night either. But you can tell your elected officials now to get to work and solve some problems NOW. Tell them that you want to see some tangible results to get things started. And in November of 2012, use your brains and vote carefully.

Although I can't vote in the US, I prefer Mr Obama and the Democrats. The Democrats arenít perfect, no one is including you and me. Elect people like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders that actually have the interests of the 99% clearly in focus and have plans on how to start accomplishing changes. The Republicans will only bring you more despair and tribulations. Listen to the rhetoric of the presidential hopefuls. Nowhere in it is there any concern for the 99%. Their so called job creators will create jobs alright but they won't be in the US. They are talking about slashing Medicare and social security and education. Romney wants to increase the defence budget at the expense of social programmes. Where are you in this? I only see the 1% benefitting because they will get all the tax breaks. Whoever the Republican presidential candidate is, if that candidate wins, the de facto president will be the Koch brothers.

Iíve ranted enough, but you, the 99%, have to start taking some action by lighting fires under your elected officials. Be firm but polite. Let them know what you expect.

Good article Michael.

Carol H (229)
Friday October 21, 2011, 5:12 am
thanks Michael!

M M (43)
Friday October 21, 2011, 5:56 am
Very good article, thank you for sharing.

. (0)
Friday October 21, 2011, 6:05 am
TY Michael

Kit B (276)
Friday October 21, 2011, 6:15 am

Personally, considering the 30 years of slow decline, and finally financial collapse leading to situation of the 99% verses the 1%; with a strong organizational unpinning this could last until some thing gives.

Contrary to the idiots that think these people are bums, I see them as strong Americans protesting their constitutional right to redress of complaints against the government inaction or should I say Congressional Inaction. Fight on and support this movement, as Americans we have a right to speak, or we do by our constitution.

Micahel Dewey (1021)
Friday October 21, 2011, 6:22 am
Worker Owned Cooperatives are part of the way out of this mess

David C (75)
Friday October 21, 2011, 6:43 am
thank you, Michael, keep spreading the word....time to have a (peaceful) revolution and get rid of the greedy overly-wealthy owners who don't care about the majority....aren't hiring, aren't willing to pay $ for infrastructure, want to destroy our environment, want to keep the US in perpetual war and want to call President Obama a dictator.......repuglicons, tea partiers, anti-patriots, job destroyers, all the one and same....

Myraida Diaz (136)
Friday October 21, 2011, 6:51 am
Thanks for the article Michael.
Lynn: when you say: " to the rest of the 99%..." that's exactly what I think.Those aspiring should beguin to work NOW instead of talking. Candidates must show their level of compromise before the elections. If they talk and say nothing and just mention marvels for the future,open your eyes! this is more crap and those are not the persons you need.

Lydia S (155)
Friday October 21, 2011, 6:53 am
Thanks for post .

Richard Smith (81)
Friday October 21, 2011, 7:14 am
sorry...i can't support capitalISM,

To me its like saying i'm not against slavery, i'm against the abuse of slaves.

Capitalism is one of these kinds of problems that need to be studied.
Its conquest, aggression driven, survival of the fittest mentality
to become more "successful" than its neighbors business.


wolfNoFwdsPls a (135)
Friday October 21, 2011, 7:41 am
Yeah, let's "keep" it peaceful -- X0,000 humans PER DAY are being murdered by the current $y$stem, 200+ species PER DAY are exterminated. Nevertheless I wish, Earth were peaceful.

I'm strongly against Capitalism, which I prefer to call capitalFascism, AND every other form of Monetaryism, for only in such $y$tems can copoRATe greed 'blossom' like it nowadays does, globally.
It (Capitalism, capitalFascism, Monetaryism) does not have to be studied, it has to be ABOLISHED, ASAP, as the very survival of humankind (and a considerable part of Earth('s biosphere)) is thretened.

"The Plan" ?
The longest journey begins with the first steps. Even starting a one-days walk you cannot see the whole path. In the current situation, methinks, any child can tell you many of the necessary first steps.
My current working-hypothesis for the first leg of this long journey is: "Bring down (this) civilization, i.e. deprive the (financially)rich of their ability to rob & rape the poor and deprive the (brutally)powerful of their ability to destroy Earth."

Micahel Dewey (1021)
Friday October 21, 2011, 7:47 am
Worker Owned Cooperatives are a major way out of this mess

Arielle S (313)
Friday October 21, 2011, 7:53 am
In a local (VERY GOP) paper, they talked about the Wall Street Protesters wanting something for nothing - more handouts. As if. One can only hope that those who just don't get it are at least temporarily shown how easy it can be to lose everything. Great article, Michael - thank you.

Lisa O (203)
Friday October 21, 2011, 8:55 am
Noted, thanks Michael.

Past Member (0)
Friday October 21, 2011, 9:47 am
The earliest signs that the event horizon has been reached will be economic collapse and social unrest. This will coincide with increasingly unstable weather and crop failures. Commodity prices will continue to climb. Military actions will become increasingly common to secure vital resources. Previously unseen disease vectors will spread pandemic. Famine will become familiar even in the wealthiest nations. Wars will be fought over resources. Finally, overseas military forces will be withdrawn to their countries of origin to crush domestic uprisings. Then the system will completely collapse.

I completely agree with the Occupy Wall Street movement, what they want, and what they are doing. However, this planet is in much worse shape than most of us have been told. The rate of decline is increasing much faster than the ability of governments to respond. At this point, Occupy Wall Street is like a group of diners on the Titanic demanding better service, when what is really needed is someone to run up to the pilothouse, take control of the wheel, and steer the ship as best as possible away from the iceberg. We are going to collide, but we might be able to keep this ship afloat. We need ten times as many people in the streets demanding change than are out there at present. We need a million person march in every major city around the world. We need marches in smaller cities and towns too. It's only the future, but the future is now.

Richard Smith (81)
Friday October 21, 2011, 10:12 am

TRUE and LASTING Change won't come from another form of conquest.
change has to come like a swelling tide, drawn by the power of the moon,
like the rising sun that's presence causes darkness to hide behind standing trees.

Conquest simply means snatching and breaking open a lid to a treasure chest
and fighting over who now owns and spends the spoils.
and for all its talk of freedom from tyranny THAT WAS THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
VIOLENCE on ALL that stood in its way,and promises of the SPOILS to all who join.


Richard Smith (81)
Friday October 21, 2011, 10:16 am easy to break stuff...........
any child can knock over a stack of blocks.
to build a stack that is the sign of a child's growing maturity

Past Member (0)
Friday October 21, 2011, 10:34 am
Thanks, noted!

LeMoyn Salmonsen (88)
Friday October 21, 2011, 10:36 am
Make it SO Mr. LaForge. If only it were that easy.

Past Member (0)
Friday October 21, 2011, 10:36 am
Thanks for the article, Michael.
As anyone here should know by now, other 99%'s in other countries are doing the same thing, Canada included, I'm proud to say.
I have to agree with Richard Zane Smith and wolf a., that capitalism itself is the problem; a hirarchy structure which relies heavily on aggressive competition, secrecy, dominance, control, coercion, etc etc. In summary, it isn't evolution, but devolution.

Micahel Dewey (1021)
Friday October 21, 2011, 11:11 am
Thom Hartman on how to get our economy to work for the people, through worker owned cooperatives such as Mondragon, which owns its own bank and collage

Jane H (139)
Friday October 21, 2011, 11:19 am
Thanks, Micheal. noted

Morris G. (18)
Friday October 21, 2011, 11:51 am
"I completely agree with the Occupy Wall Street movement, what they want, and what they are doing."
I agree with their right to do what they are doing, but I still do not know or understand exactly what they want. What they "want" seems pretty inconsistent to me. They "want" Obama re-elected but he happens to be the candidate who received the most "Wall Street" campaign donations in history. They "want" free education, etc, etc.. Nothing is free. So what they "want: is someone else to pay for what they want. They "want" life to be fair. Sorry life is not fair nor will it ever be,
Capitalism is the most "fair" economic system in human history. It rewards performane. However, we do not have a true capitalist system. We have a government that has manipulated the system to favor certain businesses and industries over others based on who is in power and what they stand to gain. Look no further than GE, run by an Obama insider. Look at their record profits and then look at their tax structure which was signed sealed and delivered to them by the current admin.
The sad thing is these people and many of you are protesting against a system that IS corrupt, but you have no understanding of why it is corrupt and you blindly support the government and people who are actually corrupting it. Not only that the system you promote has historically been the MOST corrupt and corruptible system in history - the socialist/communist system.

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Friday October 21, 2011, 12:47 pm
Keep it peaceful. Slowly but surely things will change and the 99% are going to win.

Mary T (178)
Friday October 21, 2011, 12:50 pm
Thanks Michael for the great article, I completely agree with the occupy wall street movement and support them 100 percent, I went to one in Bloomington Indiana and have donated to the cause, Bravo to all the ones that are making their voices heard.

Yvonne White (229)
Friday October 21, 2011, 1:25 pm
Great graphic!:) I am too far from any Occupy rallies, but I know my Union is there (SEIU) & I'm going to my Union's Lobby Day in Springfield on the 26th to meet with Sen. Dick Durbin. I hope it helps!:)

Roger G (148)
Friday October 21, 2011, 1:48 pm
but the sad fact is that capitalism IS greed, naked, plain greed...

Stelizan L (258)
Friday October 21, 2011, 1:50 pm
Thanks for sharing, Michael - may peace prevail!!!!!!

Jonjon Hoy (146)
Friday October 21, 2011, 2:14 pm
Awesome Michael for the post. We Shall Prevail for what is right. The consatution(miss spelled) says We The People and not We The Congress. So We The People are standing up with our feet firm on the ground.

Pat B (356)
Friday October 21, 2011, 2:43 pm
Great article, Michael, Thank you, and passing this on!!!

Jerry B (128)
Friday October 21, 2011, 3:22 pm
Noted This is a real great article and I'm proud of the people starting to take a stand on Wall street ,and all around the World..thank you Michael and you also Andrea!

Michael Carney (217)
Friday October 21, 2011, 3:27 pm
I'm proud to say, I spent last Saturday, in New York on Wall Street, and I've went to different times, to the Occupy Philadelphia protests...I'm ready for the Revolution...

Michael Carney (217)
Friday October 21, 2011, 3:28 pm
Two, sorry for the typo

Beth M (138)
Friday October 21, 2011, 3:37 pm
Great, thought provoking article.

. (0)
Friday October 21, 2011, 3:39 pm
Thanks for sharing, Michael!

Richard Smith (81)
Friday October 21, 2011, 3:59 pm
Anyone who has to compete against his neighbor to be "successful " is part of the problem.
This MIGHT drive prices cheaper....but eventually it drives quality to be lower as well.
Instead of growth at any cost, the focus of sustainable business should be on creating quality
and fine lasting products ,enhancing life and leaving as small a footprint as possible on the earth.
If one HAS to compete,then compete against the selfish desire to "get ahead" of my neighbor.

Competition enhances greed and a desire to WIN at all costs.

I'm not sure people KNOW what a healthy government should look like, because we have been
ruled by patriarchal conquest societies least since my own ancestors were forced to give up
matriarchal clan-based systems to be considered legit by the fed. gov.

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Friday October 21, 2011, 6:18 pm
We hippies had to start with "Question Authority". Thank us, because you young ones have learned from our mistakes too.

Mike S (86)
Friday October 21, 2011, 6:40 pm
Noted and shared. Thanks for the great post Michael.

Roger Bird (6)
Friday October 21, 2011, 7:08 pm
Please occupy a shower. Then occupy maturity and emotional self-control. Then occupy not looking like a bum. Then occupy looking for a job. Then occupy cleaning up your own head before trying to fix external, political problems.

H Nick H (1826)
Friday October 21, 2011, 8:41 pm
I am so proud and happy about the Wall street protestors. They are true Americans, and not bused and paid for like the Koch borthers and Fox that started the teabaggers. What is amazing is that these groups are composed of both demo and republicans, tea baggers and everyone upset over corporate greed......... It's expanding to other things too, which makes it interesting. GO FOR IT.

Norm C (74)
Saturday October 22, 2011, 12:43 am
I am against far more than corporate greed. I am in favor of far more than corporate responsibility.

P A (117)
Saturday October 22, 2011, 1:12 am
Thank you so much Michael for this - and God bless that college professor in the photo you sent us who put it all far better than I ever could. Lyn - couldn't send you another star this week - computer wouldn't let me! You put such a rational argument (not a rant!) that surely only the brain-dead could avoid being persuaded.

Lika P (130)
Saturday October 22, 2011, 1:41 am
Thanks for passing it on. Not only do I also wish for a peaceful Occupy Wall Street, I'm hoping the infectious nature of this will become occupy America, so we the people can take our fine country back from corruption and more.

Micahel Dewey (1021)
Saturday October 22, 2011, 2:45 am
We Are Making The News Tonight

Past Member (0)
Saturday October 22, 2011, 4:20 am
I don't know if I believe any of these demonstrations internationally will make a difference, but I do believe they may spur politicians to finally take notice of the 99%.

Douglas S (1)
Saturday October 22, 2011, 6:16 am
Way to go!

Kathy Javens (104)
Saturday October 22, 2011, 8:25 am
Noted. Thank you again, Michael for another great read. As with all good things, it will take alot of time to bring this to fruition. But I respect all that they are doing, and even though I cannot be there, They are in my thoughts and prayers.

Christia F (158)
Saturday October 22, 2011, 10:23 am

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Saturday October 22, 2011, 11:23 am

Sheryl G (359)
Saturday October 22, 2011, 2:35 pm
Excellent article!

Within the article it stated:

History shows that revolutions do not occur overnight. Reasonable humans always prefer to work out their differences through lawful avenues and communication whenever possible. It is only after many years of futile petitioning that the oppressed are left with no other choice but to revolt. Some 236 years ago, the American colonists signed a Declaration of Independence -- prepared to back it up through force of arms if necessary -- but that unforgiving line in the sand was only drawn after 22 years of peaceful attempts to negotiate with Britain had failed.

This isn't going to be a quick fix over night, but we must start, and start I believe we have. Many have been for years signing petitions, calling, writing, to no avail, it's now time for the next step. This movement will formulate over time. The press and others are too set in the quick sound bites, and quick wrap ups, when one has a Movement, it's a process........that process must go through its days, months, and years if need be.

Within the article it said:

One resonant example was Shay's Rebellion, a populist uprising of debt-ridden New England farmers who had served their country in the war, only to come home and have their lands foreclosed upon. (A scenario all too familiar for today's veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the returned veterans of practically every war in the 20th century.).

What is that saying, "when you do not learn from history you are doomed to repeat it, again, and again.

The article said: "All in all, the process of the American Revolution comprised 35 years--a generation."

Indeed, so let us roll up our sleeves. I may not see it's completion, or maybe I will, but I've two twentrysomething children that I want a better life for, and a 4 year old grandchild. In hopes that the latter will reap what her Grandmother was part of in it's earliest days.


pete O (242)
Saturday October 22, 2011, 3:51 pm
It might have to be an eventuality.Let us hope it will also pull down the EU also.

Care two is lost (252)
Saturday October 22, 2011, 6:21 pm
Thank you for this educational article.

Past Member (0)
Saturday October 22, 2011, 6:27 pm
You go, Michael!

We are with you.

SANDRA R (145)
Saturday October 22, 2011, 6:31 pm
Noted. Thank you Michael.

Joycey B (750)
Saturday October 22, 2011, 7:26 pm
Noted with thanks Michael

J D (52)
Sunday October 23, 2011, 3:03 am
TAKE CARE & BE AWARE the government corporate manipulation of movements & events - they WILL instigate adversity, riots etc to control the situation and enact their agenda.

THIS ADMINISTRATION is NO DIFFERENT in that they have an agenda, & that is to maintain control, which happens to also include being controlled. They like the current $ system, look what it gets them. Follow the $. See who is investing in corporations & what the institution supports - those same corporations that those "representatives" we allegedly elect to protect our rights, are the bread & butter & silver spoons & champagne in crystal glasses they have always enjoyed. & this has been going on for millenia, not just 30 years. REPULICAN/DEMOCRAT are both sides of the same coin, now as ever. We were supposed to be different, a republic, for the people. Now we are just reqpugnant. The 99% have always been owned, we just kinda forgot... now that we're aware again, we need a plan - a peaeful plan - to overcome the corrupt system at hand. obama is NOT the one - NO, not the one!

Richard Smith (81)
Sunday October 23, 2011, 7:17 am
Agreed Joyce,
I also find the voting system (the "freedom" to choose A or choose B) a sham .
then we're told if we don't participate in ( selection of A or B) one has no right to complain.
this is simply a mind trap to perpetuate the same system over and over.

My mom had a similar scheme with us five kids, brought up on a shoestring budget .
she'd bake a batch of cookies,call us all when they were ready and say:
"Ok!...would you like one? or two?" we of course chose TWO!
Choosing the higher number , not one of us even thought we could ask for more.

The US government never thought we might ask for more .

There will never be ONE candidate that saves the country, even though each promotes
themselves, with millions spent to convince us, they are Messiah USA.

Marco C (31)
Sunday October 23, 2011, 7:23 am
I think the term "Revolultion" is a little dramatic and for me it is uncomfortable, though in comparison to what we have been doing and where we need to go would it the definition of revolutionary.

We do need a re alignment. we are a good people and have a good form of government. Others are still trying to put together what we have had for two hundred years. All are correct for sounding the alarm, we are faced with a miriad of issues (rather obvious no?) and not just a few of them are complex.

Political and or religious quabbles will be non productive and those rivalries will drain away needed resources. We will need to pool our resources if we are to master the challenges we know are ahead. I feel they are too great and overwhelming for just the few to handle, we really need the collective spirit to help us through what looms ahead.

We have been very spoiled and becuase of our affluence have had the luxury of focusing on the relatively few differences bewteen us in an effort to refine our particular perspecitves, we have overlooked the much larger commonality which we enjoy of which we are much less aware, but which is none the less present.

Time to clean up, out with the bad apples and shoulder to shoulder, let's get the job done.

Roger Bird (6)
Sunday October 23, 2011, 7:54 am
Since the OWS crowd has no coherent plan other than socialism and even more government, what kind of a revolution is it.

Marco C (31)
Sunday October 23, 2011, 8:36 am
Roger B., you really shouldn't venture a comment unless you know what you are writing about. Your comment shows you are not only ill informed about the strivings of the OWS crowd you also have no understanding of socialism, you have made yourself out to be clueless and thats a shame. Bring your commentary after you have informed yourself you will undoubtably make a better impression and a man of your standing deserves that.

Micahel Dewey (1021)
Sunday October 23, 2011, 12:29 pm
By the time this OWS Movement is done Roger B, The Worker Ownership of things like The Mondragon Cooperative are going to get the Media's attention. Mondragon started in the Basque Region of Spain in the 50s. It owns its own Bank, which reinvests in itself. It also owns its own Collage which trains its worker owners. If this is the first time you have heard of it Roger B, you will be hearing more about it.

MarietteAWAY G (175)
Sunday October 23, 2011, 2:01 pm
Noted. Thanks for sharing Michael!

Sheryl G (359)
Sunday October 23, 2011, 2:25 pm
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
Abraham Lincoln
16th president of US (1809 - 1865)

Roger Bird (6)
Sunday October 23, 2011, 4:56 pm
Michael DEWEY, I am 120% in favor of coops. I am 99% in favor of unions (not public service unions, which get 13% from me). Non-coercive social organizations I support very much. Give me a chance and I would join one.

Kathy Chadwell (354)
Sunday October 23, 2011, 9:12 pm
No plan? Every group & org. out there has a plan, they've had one for years.
See, they still are NOT listening to them.

Elle J (276)
Sunday October 23, 2011, 11:30 pm

Micahel Dewey (1021)
Sunday October 23, 2011, 11:55 pm
OWS is going to be what the people make it. I hope we can focus on things that will help all 7 Billion Humans flying through space on Beautiful Mother Earth.

The best way I see to get out of the Fed, is for States to do as North Dakota has been doing fine with for over 90 years, with its State Owned Bank. Sound money is a must, and we have never had it.

If we don't fix Healthcare, the cost will double in 10 years. Vermont and Montana show a possible solution, with their Single Payer.

And need I add that we must end the wars, and why the hell not close all over seas bases, and put the put the Vets and others to work rebuilding this Broken Promised Land.

But on other thing communities should study, is Worker Owned Cooperatives, modeled after Mondragon of the Basque in Spain. Its a better way to work. Don't we all want that?

Cam V (417)
Monday October 24, 2011, 11:47 pm
Spain is not a country with a good track record of their programs working Micheal. They are almost bankrupt because of their green job programs there. Drove the country into the ground and created very few jobs for anyone.

Micahel Dewey (1021)
Tuesday October 25, 2011, 2:17 am
Mondragon was not started by the Govt. Its been called a shining example of people getting together to help themselves. Its a bottom up community thing. Models of it are springing up around America. When it catches on and is working, w will tell DC, ''Thanks for nothing, now stay out of our lives.'' I wouldn't say America, as is, has a very good track record either.
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