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How the 99 Percent Really Lost Out - in Far Greater Ways Than the Occupy Protesters Imagine

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Lots of the investments in Tech stuff from the Govt, in things like the Military and Space Program, have helped Business get rich. They owe something back to Society for that.


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Douglas S (1)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 7:31 am

Swadeep Reddy (17)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 8:07 am
Noted, thanks for sharing

Agnes N (703)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 8:38 am
Thanks Michael

Yvonne White (229)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 8:47 am
Meanwhile we pay more for everything - from groceries to property tax... We outnumber Them, so they better rethink their selfishness, before its too late.

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 9:02 am
Thanks, Michael. Some excellent points here. For ALL of us to ponder.

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 9:15 am
Great article, thanks for posting Michael.

Carol H (229)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 9:24 am
noted, thanks Michael

Micahel Dewey (1021)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 9:30 am
It seems an in thing to do to complain about taxes. Its not that that looks oppressive to me. Its the rents an mortgages. It us to take 25% of one income for most to buy a home, with it now being around 50% of 2 incomes.

Terry King (113)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 9:37 am
Excellent article... Thanks Michael.

. (0)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 9:44 am
noted with thanks, Michael

Dotti L (85)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 10:18 am
Thank you for the article, Michael. Also for the picture of you and Marie - GREAT.

Kamila A (141)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 10:30 am
I love Elizabeth Warren, and would vote for her to be president in a heart beat in 2016, after Obama.

Pat B (356)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 10:33 am
Thank you, Michael for this. Passed on also.

. (0)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 10:39 am
thanks for the great post Michael. We have always carried the brunt, while the select few go on their merry way.

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 10:47 am
Notedm thanks, Michael!

Richard Smith (81)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 10:50 am
the wealthy class STILL seems swayed by an archaic notion that they are somehow MORE.
A kind of unspoken assumed superiority complex, The sense of their own higher value is almost impossible for the wealthy to admit to even when that which they possess IS actually theft from wage withholdings ...stolen from NOT paying "the underlings" a fair living wage....a wage that they themselves would find unbearable.

Patricia E G (52)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 10:50 am
Mr Alpervovitz states the obvious.
He underestimates the education and knowledge of the common "Occupier"
and the wisdom of the 99 %.

Thank you Michael

wolfNoFwdsPls a (135)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 11:06 am
OF COURSE (and well-known by many if not most #occupy!ers)


-- Ursula K. LeGuin (*1929), where?
-- as quoted by robert wolff in 'Realities'

Myraida Diaz (136)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 11:09 am
Good article.Thanks Michael.Noted

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 11:14 am
Thank you Michael. As always, great articles.

Myraida Diaz (136)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 11:14 am
Forgot to say: Nice photo! Thank You!

Kim O (396)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 11:16 am
Thanks for the great article, Michael!

David C (80)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 11:24 am
great article....

From Samuel Adams (Boston, circa 1750) --- "It is a crime to be rich at the Publick Expense, or to the danger of the Publick"...."In every country and in every Government particular Men may be too Rich"....

Micahel Dewey (1021)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 11:25 am
OWS is going to be what the people make it. I hope we can focus on things that will help all 7 Billion Humans, flying through space on Beautiful Mother Earth.

Since we need sound money, which we have never had, lets gt out of the Fed. The best way I've hard to do that, is to follow what North Dakota has been doing fine with for 90 years, with its State Bank. Other States are studying how to do it.

If we don't fix Healthcare, the price will double in 10 years, probably with less care. Vermont's and Montana's Single Payer could very well be worth other States checking out.

And need we mention that ending the wars is a must. Why the hell not close all over seas Military Bases, and put the Vets, and others to work rebuilding this Broken Promised Land?

But on other thing: Communities should study how to set up the Worker Ownership of the Mondragon Cooperative, of the Basque in Spain. There is an Evergreen Cooperative in Cleveland, and Richmond California, is putting people to work by starting smaller Cooperatives. Its a better way to work. Don't we all want that?

penny C (83)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 11:26 am
Noted,thanks Michael.

Mike S (86)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 11:56 am
Noted and shared. Thank you for the great article Michael.

Regina P (65)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 12:18 pm
Noted with thanks.

Parsifal S (99)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 1:21 pm

Michael D.

Another great - so true story!


Iona Kentwell (129)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 2:03 pm
That is a beautiful statement from Ms Warren. It is clear, generous, honest, logical and true. What a great role model for the USA.

Rita D (87)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 2:19 pm
Thank you very much for this great & true article Michael, I couldn't agree more with this!

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 2:32 pm
Yes, it is true that 99% should get a payback from the 1%. But.... by just asking for a share, are we not simply perpetuating something that we should question the 'moral' value of in the first place? Technology is notoriously of benefit to the arms industry. GPS is not just a gadget in our cars, it is the thing that guides drones (big profits) on bombing missions. Until politics disentangles from capitalist industry, we cannot reclaim wealth unless we also reclaim power. Politicians are caught like rabbits in the headlights and they happily bale out rapacious banks with OUR money!

Christia F (158)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 2:36 pm

Mary Donnelly (47)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 3:22 pm
Thanks Michael--great post.

Sheryl G (359)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 3:22 pm
A mere 400 individuals at the top have a combined net worth greater than the bottom 60 percent of the nation taken together. If America's vast wealth is mainly a gift of our common past, how, specifically, can such disparities be justified?

It can not be justified, no more than it pertains to other Countries or the Banana Republics that we set up around the world in order to rape their resources for the benefit of the few.


Michael Carney (217)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 3:31 pm
Noted, thanks for posting Michael, a great article...

Olive Tassell (7)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 3:52 pm
This is the woman who should be running your country here in Canada think the same a strong sensible woman here instead of Harper's destructive majority.

Sue Matheson (79)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 5:16 pm
noted with thanks

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 8:48 pm
Noted. Thanks for the post.

Susanne R (236)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 9:08 pm
Excellent article! Thank you for posting it, Michael. It not only provided a good explanation of Elizabeth Warren's message, but expanded on its premise and provided specific examples to support it. I don't think that message can be repeated too often. It's truly billboard material.

Ellen m (215)
Monday October 31, 2011, 12:34 am
Thanks again for a great post, photo, and in remembering what great, understanding statements great men of the past have made.
Meybe when all the dust settles, they'll be able to stop spinning in their graves!

Arild Gone for now (174)
Monday October 31, 2011, 2:05 am
Thanks Michael,it's though living in a "Banana-republik".

P A (117)
Monday October 31, 2011, 2:59 am
Excellent article - anyone who says that they 'did it on their own' - never really did!

Meghana A. (0)
Monday October 31, 2011, 4:01 am

Calliope S (47)
Monday October 31, 2011, 4:22 am
Amazing article and most certainly food for thought.

Esther Z (94)
Monday October 31, 2011, 4:23 am
Noted. Thanks, Robert for posting such a great article. I love, love Ms. Warren, a very passionate adovcate of the middle and lower class America; the very reason Wall Street hates her and did everything in their power to have their paid minions, the Repugs and Blue Dems, to vote against her Consumer Financial Protection Bureau appointment. As Ms. Warren so eloquently put it, anyone achieving financial success, has "an underlying social contract" to pay it forward. Doing so not only makes business sense, as you're helping future generations achieve the same success, but you're also showing your patriotism in helping your country lift those in the lower economic scale to economic success that would had been otherwise impossible to achieve.

Roxana Cortijo (171)
Monday October 31, 2011, 5:44 am
Great post, thanks.

ewoud k (68)
Monday October 31, 2011, 7:46 am
Another reason not to give in!

Thanks Michael!

Rita White (55)
Monday October 31, 2011, 9:14 am
Noted. Interesting article

Elle J (276)
Monday October 31, 2011, 9:17 am

Amena Andersson (187)
Monday October 31, 2011, 10:35 am
Many thanks, Michael. Elizabeth Warren brings long-discouraged hope. We must support her in any and every manner available to us to bring that hope to reality.

Melissa Medhaug (7)
Monday October 31, 2011, 11:38 am
Great post, Thanks Michael!

Lisa N (204)
Monday October 31, 2011, 11:48 am
Noted, thanks Michael.

Muriel S (53)
Monday October 31, 2011, 1:08 pm
Noted, thank you.

Craig Pittman (52)
Monday October 31, 2011, 2:40 pm
Well done Michael. Thank you. It is said that the 1% will be secure in their position as long as the other 99% have to much too loose to create a major shift. Well more and more folks are finding themselves in a position of having little left to loose. It's my belief that the Occupy Wall Street movement will continue to grow,

Jane H (139)
Monday October 31, 2011, 2:42 pm
noted---good article and hooray for Elizabeth Warren whotells it like it is in language we can understand!

SANDRA R (145)
Monday October 31, 2011, 5:53 pm
Noted. Thank you Michael.

Dee C (9)
Monday October 31, 2011, 8:05 pm
Thank you for this post. For the past 10 years I've had the dark sensation of deja vu as my work responsibilities increased, my income and benefits decreased and history got re-written. After reading this article I realized that feeling was from having read "1984" several times in my life. I'm another enthusiastic supporter of Elizabeth Warren -- so much so I sent her a very modest campaign contribution from my even more modest income -- and I live in California! She's an outstanding person, well suited to representing the interests of the good people of Massachusetts. She's a real-life example of the film character "Mr. Smith" in "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington."

Sheila D (28)
Monday October 31, 2011, 8:41 pm
Good article.

Judy C (91)
Monday October 31, 2011, 11:09 pm
I hope Warren's words and ideas wake some people up to the fact that the 1% does not deserve their ridiculous wealth. So many people are hypnotized, it seems. They accept their enslavement and yearn for some crumbs. They buy the assumption that the 1% thrives on, that they worked their way to the top of the heap. They watch crap like the Kardashians, and wear designer clothes with labels that make them a walking billboard for some rich chump. Warren speaks in such down-to-earth terms that more people might finally understand the scam that is being pulled on the 99%.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday November 1, 2011, 12:07 am
It is time that the OCCUPY movement take the next step in tactical action. Given the level of information available over the internet, OCCUPY should assemble and publish a state-by-state list of the 1%, who they are and where they live. This list should be published online and in the major newspapers of each state. When the wealthy elites know they have been identified, then they may want to actually negotiate with the American people, because WE ARE THE 99%.

greenplanet e (155)
Tuesday November 1, 2011, 12:20 am
Very interesting.

They stole from the planet too.

Quanta Kiran (67)
Tuesday November 1, 2011, 3:37 am

Micahel Dewey (1021)
Tuesday November 1, 2011, 5:52 am
Oh, thank you all for such positive feedback. God Speed to OWS-Empire's-Territory.

Sara Lee Guthrie, and her husband Johnny Irion singing This Land is our land, not the oil giants, at OWS in Burlington Vermont

Kathy Javens (104)
Tuesday November 1, 2011, 8:25 am
Noted. Thanks for another great article, Michael. This is another reason to stand firm & not give in to them!!!!!! I love your comment Dandelion. WE ARE THE 99%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE MUST STAND TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cathy K (0)
Wednesday November 2, 2011, 5:53 am

reft h (66)
Thursday November 3, 2011, 11:20 pm
thanks for the article.

Cindy B (61)
Sunday November 6, 2011, 12:09 am
Capitalism might work hunky-dory if success in life was a true and direct representation of how hard people worked, how badly they wanted it, or how smart or creative they were (not that they'd have much control over the last 2).

But in fact, the minute you get a bit of initial advantage over the next guy due to one of these initial factors (aided by favourable twists of fate), then that bit of advantage takes on a life of its own, compounding itself exponentially -- giving you greater and greater advantage over the next guy simply as a function of the growing MIGHT your initial advantage has wrought. Pretty soon you can remove from play any of those initial determinants for success -- how hard you might work, how pure your intentions, how smart or creative you are... for now, your MIGHT has taken on a life of its own; it's in a self-sustaining, self-propelling cycle and, at last, needs nothing but itself to grow to monstrous proportions.

Thus it has gone with the banks and corporations. And the rest of us long ago swallowed the perfectly reasonable-sounding argument that capitalism is the only way for a diverse populace to get "equal chances" to make good. The rest of us have sat complacently in that soup pot like the proverbial frog -- unaware that the heat's being turned up just one degree at a time -- until now we are good and cooked and really never suspected a thing.

Do we now have the chance, do we now have the guts -- to leap out of that boiling water and yell: WTF!!!! -- to the fat cats with their mansions and their learjets and their holidays in Aruba -- the fat cats whose favorite repast is frog legs washed down with a little Chateau Lafitte Rothschild, '67?

What a wonderful thing if it were so. My breath is bated. I'm trying to do my part though it's so cold in the winter and I do hate that... and if I don't do about 8 hours a day on this damn computer looking for work, my cats and I will be out in the street, homeless, in exactly one month. Sucky, isn't it.

Lika P (130)
Monday November 7, 2011, 2:36 am
They are hypocritical. They have the lion's share of the wealth, yet they think everyone else should pay the lion's share of the taxts.

I hope you can find work soon, even though the wingnuts of the right is making it more difficult than it ought to be...

Nancy C (806)
Saturday December 3, 2011, 9:40 am
thanx Michael. much work to do and Warren will be in there with US
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