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India's Verdana Shiva On The New Food Wars: GMOS And Biofuels


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Fiona
- 1704 days ago - youtube.com
Following Rachel Carson's courage and case, Dr. Shiva has fought against food. Intellectual property rights, biotechnology, and genetic engineering. She has assisted campaigns against GM crops and GMO's in Asia, Africa, and Latin America.



   

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Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 9:28 pm
This is my 7th environmentalist posting leading up to the UN Climate Change Summit.

In 1987, she founded the Research Foundation for Science, Technology and Ecology, which led to the creation of Navdanya in 1991, a national movement in India to protect the diversity and integrity of living resources.

In the area of intellectual property rights and biodiversity, Dr. Shiva and her team at the Research Foundation for Science, Technology and Ecology successfully challenged the biopiracy of Neem, Basmati and Wheat. Besides her activism, she has also served on expert groups of government on Biodiversity and IPR legislation

Shiva has also served as an adviser to governments in India and abroad as well as non-governmental organisations, including the International Forum on Globalization, the Women's Environment & Development Organization and the Third World Network.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 9:34 pm
Vandana Shiva is an anti-science, ideological extremist who is more than willing to let millions die of starvation around the world: she would much rather spew fear-mongering propaganda than actually examine the science of biotechnology. Of course, she would have to have it explained to her, given her lack of education in the area. When people in her own country start dying because of her alarmist hysteria, one can only hope that Vandana Shiva is tried for crimes against humanity.
 

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 10:21 pm
The above comment is in error regarding the educational credentials of Dr. Shiva.

From Wikipedia:

Dr, Shiva holds M.Sc Degree in Particle Physics from the University of Punjab, Chandigarh in 1973,[8] she pursued an M.A. in the philosophy of science at the University of Guelph (Ontario, Canada) in 1977, with a thesis entitled "Changes in the concept of periodicity of light".[9] In 1978, she completed and received her PhD in the philosophy of science at the University of Western Ontario. Her thesis, titled "Hidden variables and locality in quantum theory,"[5] was about the philosophical underpinnings of quantum mechanics. She later went on to interdisciplinary research in science, technology, and environmental policy at the Indian Institute of Science and the Indian Institute of Management in Bangalore.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 10:37 pm
Exactly, she is a philosopher with a degree in physics passing herself off as an environmentalist passing remarkably biased judgements against biotechnology...a field in which she has no credentials, no education, and clearly no understanding.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 10:56 pm
From "Vandana Shiva, anti-GMO celebrity: 'Eco goddess' or dangerous fabulist?"

"According to the University of Western Ontario, where she received her PhD, her doctorate is not in the discipline of physics, as she claims, but in philosophy. It focused on the highly technical and often politicized debate over a central notion in physics known as Bells’ Theorem, which has been called the “most profound” theory in science."

(SEE: http://www.aei.org/article/energy-and-the-environment/vandana-shiva-anti-gmo-celebrity-eco-goddess-or-dangerous-fabulist/)

Oh, that's right...Vandana Shiva isn't even a physicist...Vandana Shiva is just another egomaniacal, self-aggrandizing fakir getting wealthy off all of her gullible followers.
 

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 11:22 pm
Dr, Shiva is not speaking as an expert in biotechnology. In this video, she is speaking as an environmentalist concerned about GMO's and biofuels.

There are remarkably few people with credentials as environmentalists. Of all the posts I have made so far on environmentalists only one had what you would consider "environmental" credentials. That individual was Aldo Leopold who had a bachelor's degree in forestry before the University of Wisconsin hired him to be the chairman of their new department of Ecology.

The others have been a labor leader, a poet, an oceanographer, a chemist, a marine biologist, and a veterinarian. One of these was martyred in protection of a rainforest and one received a Nobel Peace Prize. All of these people except the labor leader have written landmark world changing environmental books.including Dr. Shiva.

Should their books be retracted because of lack of environmental credentials?

We are all allowed to speak for the environment and we are all allowed to speak in matters concerning our own health. Being a living person on this planet gives us this right according to definition of the "land ethic" taught by Professor of Ecology at the University of Wisconsin, Aldo Leopold.

 

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 11:26 pm
Can I have the ISBN and author of the tome from which you are quoting and the credentials of the author---- or better yet the employment history of the author?

The well paid climate change deniers.......had obsessive credentials.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 11:26 pm
I stand corrected. Let me amend my earlier comment, Vandana Shiva, "...is a philosopher with no degree in physics passing herself off as an environmentalist passing remarkably biased judgments against biotechnology...a field in which she has no credentials, no education, and clearly no understanding."
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 11:33 pm
Information in my earlier comment:

The name of the article from which I quoted was "Vandana Shiva, anti-GMO celebrity: 'Eco goddess' or dangerous fabulist?"

It can be found at URL: http://www.aei.org/article/energy-and-the-environment/vandana-shiva-anti-gmo-celebrity-eco-goddess-or-dangerous-fabulist/


Regarding the author:
It was written by John Entine:

"Jon Entine, a former Emmy-winning producer for NBC News and ABC News, researches and writes about corporate responsibility and science and society. His books include No Crime But Prejudice: Fischer Homes, the Immigration Fiasco, and Extra-Judicial Prosecution (TFG Books, May 2009), about prosecutorial excesses; Abraham's Children: Race, Identity, and the DNA of the Chosen People (Grand Central Publishing, 2007), which focuses on the genetics of race; Let Them Eat Precaution: How Politics Is Undermining the Genetic Revolution in Agriculture (AEI Press, 2006), about the genetic modification of food and farming; Pension Fund Politics: The Dangers of Socially Responsible Investing (AEI Press, 2005), which reveals the effects of social investing on pension funds; and the best-selling Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk about It (Public Affairs, 2000), based on an award-winning NBC News documentary. Currently, Mr. Entine is an adviser to Global Governance Watch (GGW), a project that examines transparency and accountability issues at the United Nations (UN), in nongovernmental organizations (NGOs), and in related international organizations. GGW also analyzes the impact of UN agencies and NGOs on government and corporations. He is also working on a book exploring the revolutionary impact of genomic research on medical treatments and traditional perceptions of human limits and capabilities."


My earlier comment:
>>>From "Vandana Shiva, anti-GMO celebrity: 'Eco goddess' or dangerous fabulist?"

"According to the University of Western Ontario, where she received her PhD, her doctorate is not in the discipline of physics, as she claims, but in philosophy. It focused on the highly technical and often politicized debate over a central notion in physics known as Bells’ Theorem, which has been called the “most profound” theory in science."

(SEE: http://www.aei.org/article/energy-and-the-environment/vandana-shiva-anti-gmo-celebrity-eco-goddess-or-dangerous-fabulist/)

Oh, that's right...Vandana Shiva isn't even a physicist...Vandana Shiva is just another egomaniacal, self-aggrandizing fakir getting wealthy off all of her gullible followers. "
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 11:35 pm
>The well paid climate change deniers.......had obsessive credentials.

Interesting that you should mention the Climate Denialists, they use many of the same arguments that Anti-Vaxxers and Anti-GMO-ers use.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 11:36 pm
PS It's not Verdana, it's Vandana. One should at least know the name of one's guru.
 

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 11:59 pm
Thank you for the spelling correction.

Are you defending splicing the DNA sequence in order to mix DNA from puffer fish with wheat?

Seems unnatural to me.

However not my field, my credentials are in adult education and Internet Technologies.

 

Past Member (0)
Friday September 19, 2014, 12:08 am
Do you have an article that refers to adding puffer fish DNA to wheat genome? I don't believe I've read that one. As for the concept of natural, humans have been altering animals and plants for 10,000 years now, there is nothing natural about our cultivated crops or our domesticated livestock.

Thank you, your credentials are not pertinent to this discussion as you, like myself, are only C2NN users. Vandana Shiva's credentials by contrast are pertinent when she makes claims about them that are false, and then uses those false claims to elevate her status and to fill her wallet by disseminating her opinions as fact.
 

Larry Sherk (6)
Friday September 19, 2014, 5:25 am
Thanks for this article, Betsy.

It is amazing to me how often we see that if one agrees with a writer, all is well, but if one disagrees, or is somehow offended, then suddenly their academic credentials come into question. My training was in chemical physics, but I have lots of passions outside that field, and often would like to share them. In any event, there is nothing constructive in hurling invective and insults. I think most of us have the sense to take in the wisdom we find and not get bent out of shape about the perspectives of others. It seems obvious to me that gene splicing necessarily has repercussions that cannot conceivably be anticipated, and therefore should be undertaken with the most extreme caution, and certainly not in corporate secrecy. That conception cannot possibly require any kind of academic credentials. Our science and technology have long outstripped our morality or respect for nature. The house is already on fire, and it behooves us to do something constructive.
 

Stephen D (58)
Friday September 19, 2014, 8:35 am
Every site of this nature has their inside person to sway opinion and belittle anyone that opposes during the process..which is done quite often on this particular topic. noted ty Betsy
 

Roger G (148)
Friday September 19, 2014, 1:15 pm
ad hominem attacks are just showing how few real arguments one really has..
noted, thanks
 

Bob P (394)
Friday September 19, 2014, 2:11 pm
Thank you Betsy
 

Terry H (15)
Friday September 19, 2014, 2:23 pm
Best practice organic polyculture farming is farming with a low carbon footprint that enhances and relies on biodiversity. I don't disagree with GMO crop research but I find the idea largely irrelevant. GMO crops that require more inputs, pesticides or water for instance, are a dead end in a world that could probably do with de-industrialising agriculture. My two cents there and why, even as a scientifically minded layman, I have a lot of time for Vandana Shiva :)
 
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