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The Ancient Nasca Lines of Peru Shed Their Secrets.


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Kit
- 3394 days ago - ngm.nationalgeographic.com
No flying saucers or chariots of the gods, just some basic rituals to make a hard life with a water shortage a little easier.



   

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chris b (2474)
Wednesday March 3, 2010, 3:55 am
So there we have it nothing more than antique photoshopping well on a grand scale and political control of the head waters! Not a lot has changed really politicians still lie, people still manipulate for their own ends and life rolls merrily along! Far too many words in the article! lol
 

sherrie e (147)
Wednesday March 3, 2010, 5:09 am
WOW, that is an amazing journey! Thanx Kit!
 

. (0)
Wednesday March 3, 2010, 5:37 am
Interesting story. I had, of course, seen photos of the glyphs before but I had never read any of the backstory. It's amazing how well ancient peoples learned to adapt to their environments.

But, Kit - whaddya mean 'no flying saucers or chariots of the gods'??????!!!!!! Surely you ain't one of those silly rationalists who actually refuse to believe in weird stories absent any proof whatsoever, are ya?
 

Kit B (276)
Wednesday March 3, 2010, 7:07 am
No, Lindsey, I am saying No Pictures of flying saucers or chariots of the gods! I know that all myths, stories and fantasies are real, for those who choose to believe them any way.

What is most interesting about the (long and wordy) article is the archaeology that has not been deeply studied by modern scientific methods before now. These ancient people lived a lonely, separate and some what tenuous existence. Of course the flying saucer people probably made it a little more interesting and loads of fun. Special trips in the flying machine---who wouldn't like that?
 

. (0)
Wednesday March 3, 2010, 8:29 am
I think that it is art no matter the purpose :-)
 

Paritosh P (26)
Wednesday March 3, 2010, 10:45 am
interesting
 

Terry B (649)
Wednesday March 3, 2010, 11:50 am
TYVM. Kit
 

Susan T (14)
Wednesday March 3, 2010, 3:04 pm
Absolutely art work. But , the lesson perhaps to be learned, the Nasca are not the first civilization to become extint due to the lack of water. As a matter of fact almost every civilationthat has become extint can be traced to water and water quality. Heads up, folks. History repeats itself.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday March 3, 2010, 3:19 pm
thats cool
 

Yvonne White (229)
Wednesday March 3, 2010, 3:28 pm
VERY Good article! I've read lots on the Nazca lines before & knew they were meant to be walked.. I'm glad the article put in some back-story & the continuation of the Pre-Nazca cultures & the next in line after.. also the descriptions of the Entire area & how people observed as well as participated in the rituals. I'd really love to see More pictures & overlays of the lines & surrounding topology though, describing isn't the same as seeing!
I'm into Archeaology, so Thanks So Much Kit!:)
 

Gillian M (218)
Wednesday March 3, 2010, 3:57 pm
The people walk these patterns every year as part of an onoing tradition.

There was a Nat Geo prog about this and they showed pictures of people with circles around their heads - space helmets? and these same people sitting on a chair with flames coming out underneath. These pictures appear elsewhere in the world. They also show people with large eyes and there is a genuine skeleton found in a cave in France a couple of hundred years old.

Hey, I have no idea if these are ETs and the drawings are for space travellers and the skeleton is a genetic defect or ET but I'm throwing into the mix for a discussion. Just because people do not want to believe doesn't mean that we haven't been visited by ET nor does it mean that they have!

Personally, I think that if we have ever been visited they have taken one look at humans and left in disgust! There is a quote - the sure sign of ET intelligence is that we haven't been visited.
 

. (0)
Wednesday March 3, 2010, 4:17 pm
I don't think that artistic renderings should be considered as proof - we know that human artists often paint or sculpt things out of their own imaginations without the things having any basis in reality. And, absent any skeleton found in a cave could easily be tested - I cannot believe that an extraterrestrial's skeleton, especially one only a few hundreds of years old, would test as human in a multitude of ways. So I have to assume that the skeleton is, in fact, simply a human one.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof - and I haven't yet seen even ordinary adequate proof of extraterrestrials visiting earth (although I do not believe we are alone in the universe).
 

pam w (139)
Wednesday March 3, 2010, 9:15 pm
suggesting to archaeologists that at some point in early Nasca times the lines evolved from mere images to pathways for ceremonial processions...

Best explanation I've seen so far. The article is beautifully written, isn't it?

WHY do people insult our ancestors by presuming they were too stupid to create civilizations and technology? Why do people want to have visitors from outer space involved?
 

Alice B (241)
Wednesday March 3, 2010, 9:34 pm
Elegant and practical: in the style of Mother Earth Herself.
 

Beth P (32)
Wednesday March 3, 2010, 11:54 pm
We can add this to the list of 'maybe' theories.
 

gerlinde p (161)
Thursday March 4, 2010, 5:19 am
very interesting read, thankyou
 

pam w (139)
Thursday March 4, 2010, 8:04 am
KIT: "Special trips in the flying machine---who wouldn't like that?"

Almost as much fun as giants, kids with slingshots and wheels spinning in the air!
 

Kit B (276)
Thursday March 4, 2010, 8:23 am
I admit I come very late to the knowledge of the discussion involving "Chariots of the gods" this had passed me by, so recently learning of this - on the History Channel no less - I wanted to post some of the back ground and more recent information to a truly remarkable place. In Texas this would be called a hard scrabble life, but then Texas has a long history of water shortage.

I have to say Pam, that if the "little guys" do come on down for a visit I want a ride in the magnificent flying machine.

Yes, for those who BELIEVE in UFOs I know this is as compelling as religion to you, and I do understand that, I
just do not see the science. But when did any form of religion ever need a science?

Pam said:
"WHY do people insult our ancestors by presuming they were too stupid to create civilizations and technology? Why do people want to have visitors from outer space involved?"


Yes, why must we deny their ability to build, govern, make social and legal standards? Why do we think nothing happened till we the NOW generations happened along? Recently, some one asked me, "if the ancients were so modern why did they sleep on stone carved beds"...somethings really are to stupid for answers.

I'm glad this article pleased so many of you. I really think our ancestors have much to teach us, not that I believe many us are willing to learn.

Art for the sake of art, or a more practical matter of keeping water flowing and people busy, that we probably
will never know.
 

pam w (139)
Thursday March 4, 2010, 9:14 am
One thing's certain....they still speak to us, across the centuries.
 

chris b (2474)
Thursday March 4, 2010, 10:25 am
Ah but what are they saying! Archaeologists always amaze me how patronising they can be when describing some ancient culture. The sort of comment that goes like this " How amazing that the Romans had central heating" or made lead pipes etc! Every time they come across some sort of evidence of burning it either has to ritual or evidence of metalworking. Did the ancients not use fire for cooking, heating, or communication one is inclined to ask or is there only room for religion, magic or ritual! As for the dear old Nasca Lines along with Ley Lines and similar why can they not be simply art or mapping or a very rude word to those that can read them! Perhaps much archaeology is to do with the archaeologists ego rather than the probability of use or purpose of the artefact Another patronising remark is " but of course they were only a primitive people" My response to that is "much like us then"! Of course nowadays one would not getting planning consent either for Nasca Lines the Taj Mahal or a Gothic cathedral much less an Eiffel Tower or Big Ben! And we think we are civilised!
 

Kit B (276)
Thursday March 4, 2010, 10:42 am
Well Chris we like to think we are civilized. That is now and has been one of my constant complaints about Archaeology, why assume everything is religious. Simply because the majority of people today haven't the ability to think beyond religious dogma, doesn't mean that has always been true.

Sciences that must rely so much on human interpretive analysis must expect that current trends will by default affect their analytical out come.
 

David Gould (155)
Thursday March 4, 2010, 5:34 pm
To the ancient mind art was worship. to walk the lines of geomagnetic force was to become one with the land. While the Sun God fed them they needed to appease the earth God to make him feed them.
 

pam w (139)
Thursday March 4, 2010, 5:35 pm
BRAVO, Chris...what if they WERE giving us a great big FINGER (so to speak?) Have you ever visited Abu Simbel? This massive complex sat on the southern Nile...designed to impress anyone entering Egypt from that direction. I've always imagined it as a giant FINGER...saying "Look how strong we are! Don't even THINK about coming in here, unless you're peaceful and well-meaning."
 

Ariel P (48)
Thursday March 4, 2010, 8:07 pm
Great article, thanks Kit! We watch a lot of the natgeo channel, recently they aired a show on the Nazca Lines. Another impressive location is here in the US, the Chaco Canyon. The ancients possessed so much knowledge!
 

pam w (139)
Thursday March 4, 2010, 8:31 pm
Ariel, I've often thought that, when the Maya world collapsed, the remaining people must have gone somewhere....and we know there were step-pyramids in the south-eastern part of our country and some sophisticated water systems in what's now Chaco Canyon. Just a thought....!
 

Lil Judd (70)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 11:00 am
Very interesting article.
 

Elm Morrison (357)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 1:34 pm
Thank you Kit for a fascinating article.
 

Carmen S (69)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 11:14 pm
THE AUTHOR OF CHARIOTS OF THE GODS.? ALSO WROTE "GODS FROM OUTER SPACE"IN IT HE HAS A PICTURE OF FIGURE MADE TO LOOK LIKE A MAN WITH HIS CHEST EXPOSED IN A SQUARE AND LINES LIKE HIS RIBS SHOWING. IT IS A ROCK DRAWING FROM TORO MUERTO IN PERU, LOOKS LIKE AN E-RAY PLATE OF THE THORAX. ITS MEANING IS UNKONOWN. ANOTHER VERY INTERESTING BOOK "WE ARE NOT THE FIRST" BY ANDREW TOMAS. SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE PUZZELING BUT I THINK ONE DAY WE WILL FIND THE TRUTH.
 

Philippa P (154)
Monday March 8, 2010, 12:30 am
Loved it!
 

Seth E (82)
Monday March 8, 2010, 11:49 pm
Considering any civilization as primitive or advanced is a matter of perspective, but even that must take into account modern times, rates of advances during various time periods of history, and the level of advancement relative to any civilization's contemporaries.

As far as considerations of technology, art, religion, etc., in the past, there's little doubt that people loved to guess and assume, even those educated and respected as archaeologists and anthropologists, but we know better now that theories in those fields need continued research to establish context in order to more accurately draw conclusions.

Look at the Bible, for example. There are people who swear its meanings to be literal, others who interpret it more literally, but who's to say that at least some parts of it weren't meant to be literature, fable, historical account, or even an ancient form of tabloid gossip?

Because we have no way of transporting ourselves back to those times, all we can do is continue to research and explore, and as we put together more pieces of the puzzles, we can gain a better understanding of the true meanings of the mysteries of our past.
 

Seth E (82)
Monday March 8, 2010, 11:53 pm
Caution to others about typing late at night: proofreading is your friend!

In my 3rd paragraph, the one phrase should read "...others who interpret more allegorically..."

I was thinking one word and typed another.

Grrrr

Good night, all!
 

pam w (139)
Tuesday March 9, 2010, 7:13 am
Happens to us all! I knew what you meant, and you're right. But tell it to a biblical literalist and then jump back because you'll be BLASTED! :-)
 
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