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In his forthcoming book, Known and Unknown, the former Defense secretary says he believed that "an aggressive diplomatic effort, coupled by a threat of military force, just might convince Saddam and those around him to seek exile."


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Kit B (276)
Thursday February 3, 2011, 6:44 am
Bush's Defense secretary chides Colin Powell, says he would have gone into Iraq even if he'd known Saddam had no WMDs—and discusses his son's drug problem. Howard Kurtz speed-reads Rummy's new memoir.

Ten days after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld wrote himself a note.

"At the right moment," it said, "we may want to give Saddam Hussein a way out for his family to live in comfort."

In his forthcoming book, Known and Unknown, the former Defense secretary says he believed that "an aggressive diplomatic effort, coupled by a threat of military force, just might convince Saddam and those around him to seek exile." Instead, history will record that Rumsfeld became a principal player in the Bush administration's drive to invade Iraq, which led to the execution of Saddam, the deaths of more than 4,400 American soldiers and a long, grinding war that will forever define his reputation.

In Known and Unknown, which was purchased by a reporter at a Washington bookstore in advance of its official release, Rumsfeld offers a muscular, uncompromising defense of his tenure, the military operations he helped direct in Afghanistan and Iraq and the president he served. He settles his share of scores, most notably with Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Dick Armitage and the media. While he acknowledges some missteps along the way, Rumsfeld also chastises high-ranking Democrats and insists—as does George W. Bush—that even if he had known in 2003 that Saddam did not possess weapons of mass destruction, the former defense secretary would still have favored going to war.

One of the few personal anecdotes in the 815-page volume takes place more than 12 hours after hijacked planes struck not only the World Trade Center but the Pentagon, filling his office with heavy smoke and forcing him to evacuate with other employees, some of them wounded. His spokeswoman, Torie Clarke, asked if he had called his wife of 47 years, Joyce. Rumsfeld replied that he had not.

"You son of a bitch," Clarke said with a hard stare.

"She had a point," Rumsfeld writes.

The book, which also recounts his first tour as Pentagon chief under Gerald Ford, begins with Rumsfeld's 1983 trip to Baghdad as Ronald Reagan's envoy. "It seems unnatural," Saddam told him during a two-hour meeting, "to have a whole generation of Iraqis growing up knowing little about America and a whole generation of Americans growing up knowing little about Iraq." Rumsfeld had uttered the same words the night before to the Iraqi dictator's aide, Tariq Aziz, and wondered whether the room had been bugged.

Nearly two decades later, in the rubble of 9/11, Rumsfeld took grim note when Saddam gloated that "the United States reaps the thorns its rulers have planted in the world."

But first there was Afghanistan, which had harbored bin Laden. Rumsfeld pushed the CENTCOM commander, Tommy Franks, for a quick war plan, brushing aside the general's insistence that he needed two months to devise one. Critics might question why the United States didn't immediately prepare to deploy as many as 150,000 troops to Afghanistan, Rumsfeld writes. But "we would have needed many months to build a large occupying army," and "this would have given the Taliban time to prepare for the conflict, and al Qaeda both the incentive and the opportunity to relocate."

**** "The president did not lie. The vice president did not lie. Tenet did not lie. Rice did not lie. I did not lie. The Congress did not lie. The far less dramatic truth is that we were wrong," Rumsfeld writes.****

Once the Taliban were toppled, Rumsfeld emerged as a major media personality, mocked by Darrell Hammond on Saturday Night Live, to his amusement. "If one starts with 'good press,' one often gets more and more favorable coverage; early bad stories often spawn additional negative reporting," he says. "But journalists also relish dramatic reversals." That was yet to come.

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Kit B (276)
Thursday February 3, 2011, 6:46 am
These Bush years memoirs seem far more a useful method for justifications then an introspective of their years in government service.

Past Member (0)
Thursday February 3, 2011, 11:15 am
I can hardly wait to read the tales Thanks Kit

Terry King (113)
Thursday February 3, 2011, 11:42 am
Just like other felons...Rummy shouldn't be able to profit from his crimes!

Sheryl G (359)
Thursday February 3, 2011, 11:56 am
There was a story awhile back about a trip to Mars that would be only one way, can we put him, Beck, Palin, Cheney, Bush, Limbaugh and a host of others on that flight?

Mike S (86)
Thursday February 3, 2011, 4:04 pm
Noted and thanks Kit.

Past Member (0)
Thursday February 3, 2011, 4:23 pm
Hey Dandelion....great idea on the one way trip....only I'd prefer they took a one way trip down the hole where they dump the toxic waste from some Hell Hole they Aspertame or used body bags they "caused" all over the world. It seems these self absorbed ego freaks all think their lives are "corrected" if they write their "version" the gospel of their life. Quite the contrary and the party is not over by any means. Even the young people of this country know who took their freedom away and who ruined our once respectable core........I found Bush's Book in a Dollar Tree store.....with a ton of others.....surely not worth the ink it was written with., let alone a buck. May they spend the rest of their lives, looking over their shoulder in fright......because the world will never forget what they did to all of us.

. (0)
Thursday February 3, 2011, 7:01 pm
i get a kick out of him - she states over & over again, ' i not a liar, i am, not a liar" yet they showed clips of him referencing the wmd's & "we know where they are" ! that was but one example of his, well, lying.

Cam V (417)
Thursday February 3, 2011, 8:59 pm
"The president did not lie. The vice president did not lie. Tenet did not lie. Rice did not lie. I did not lie. The Congress did not lie. The far less dramatic truth is that we were wrong," Rumsfeld writes.

Norm C (74)
Thursday February 3, 2011, 11:08 pm
Still crazy after all these years.

Mary L (132)
Friday February 4, 2011, 2:07 am
Self exculpation and forgiveness for nothing, he did nothing wrong! Is anyone really surprised? Rummy's been blowing smoke up his own ass for decades.

Jana Puz (20)
Friday February 4, 2011, 4:12 am
of course you were all wrong! if you had a dog, you would know you can achieve nothing by brute force. you can only achieve resistance and that happened, you ignorant man! the wrong thing is that so many ordinary people suffered and lost lives because of your brilliant tactics. and now you think we want to read about it! what an arrogant man.

Kit B (276)
Friday February 4, 2011, 4:44 am
So Robert B you're saying that because Saddam (once our "friend") was then labeled as "evil" it's cool to invade a country, cause massive loss of life on a false premise as long as we get to kill the "bad" guy. Are you kidding?

patricia lasek (317)
Friday February 4, 2011, 7:21 am
It may be a good work of fiction.

Josh Townsend (34)
Friday February 4, 2011, 9:50 am
Thanks Kit!

donald Baumgartner (6)
Friday February 4, 2011, 12:31 pm
You'll find it "under fiction".

pam M (98)
Friday February 4, 2011, 12:51 pm
It is scary that these egotistical numskulls hold our very lives in their hands to do with what they will. Jackals who out of greed would or probably have sold us out. Suit wearing vicious lying thugs. No better than the turf color wearing gangs that maraud the streets of America.

Ellen W (0)
Friday February 4, 2011, 1:09 pm
Rumsfeld is evil and should be tried in an international court of law for crimes against humanity. Not only for his part in the invasion of Iraq but for his work with big pharma Rumsfeld served as Chairman of Gilead Sciences, Inc. Gilead Sciences is the developer of Tamiflu (Oseltamivir), which is used in the treatment of bird flu.

Jon Stewart (37)
Friday February 4, 2011, 1:40 pm
Dandelion, I like the idea of sending them all to Mars! There's water, and if we add all that "fertilizer", we could use the new farmland to feed the world!

Andrea Connelly (94)
Friday February 4, 2011, 2:24 pm
Dandelion, can we please send the bankers of Wall street as well? I'll chip in for their trip on behalf of people who lost their homes.

Dotti L (85)
Friday February 4, 2011, 3:49 pm
"They" lie. Have you ever known Rumsfeld not to be defiant?

Marilyn K (50)
Friday February 4, 2011, 3:50 pm
Every criminal will defend his rights and scream "I'm innocent" until the end of time.

Aletta Kraan (146)
Friday February 4, 2011, 5:06 pm
Noted , thanks !

DAN h (6)
Friday February 4, 2011, 5:10 pm
Just a good laugh, at some more of the biggest LIES, from one of the, most insane idiot, in the upper few. We all did not lie, and congress didn't ether. If that is not, just as disgusting as it can be. And to think, this bunch of slithering, pieces of just plane shit. WOW!! to think people all over every where in this country, will stand, and make FOOLS out of themselves, trying to make a case, of why they voted for him, and then turn around and try to say they were right, and the democrats are just telling storeys about them. No wonder his son was on all that stuff, his son was so ashamed of his dad, no telling what people said to him about Rummie.

DAN h (6)
Friday February 4, 2011, 8:38 pm

IS there any of you brave,big talkers, that think bush w , and rummy , and chaney, are great people that we all should look up to, and say, what examples, they are of the whole republican party, and didn't cause 12 trillion dollars worth of debt, on the USA. Started two wars, and all republicans think just like this guy name rummy!!!

Edward Palma (15)
Saturday February 5, 2011, 6:20 am
Only in America can one be a son of a bitch as a government official and come out with a multi-million dollar book deal smelling like a rose. This is an insulting farce just as the Bush memoirs that were recently recently released. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Rice and the rest of the merry band of warmongers should be prosecuted for high crimes against humanity and nature. The group of them were nothing more than a band of thugs hell bent on American occupation of countries to control governments and extract their resources, whether it be oil, lithium, gold, prescious metals etc. All under the guise of defeating terrorism. "We are fighting them over there to keep us safe here" was the statement made. We are less safe than we have ever been, and our daughters and sons along with countless thousands of innocent civilians, domestic animals and wildlife have been wantonly sacrificed in order to feed the greedy coffers of the Defense Contractors, Big Oil, Haliburton, and our representatives with hands in their back pockets. At this point in history anyone who believes that Al Qaeda masterminded 911 is either numb or dead. Architects and Engineers for 911 truth has a very informative website regarding this subject, along with the abundance of evidence from the people that were actually on the ground during this horrific tragedy. Much of the evidence has been suppressed but is being made public now. I'm sorry but I just cannot stomach this anymore. The Bush/Cheney War & Environmental Disaster Machine, of which Rummy was the conductor, ran roughshod over our economy to their personal financial benefits along with their corrupt corporate buddies, started two wars for the control of oil and resources (lithium) while draining our country financially, and falsified information to legitimate their preemptive invasion. Out of all of this they continue to skate away from responsibility, while writing these BS memoirs to legitimate their lies. When will the people of our country understand that they all belong in jail? What does it take for the truth to be heard?

Marıanna M. (0)
Monday February 7, 2011, 3:33 am
he just made a larger idiot of himself than he already was. explain lies with more lies. that a boy!
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