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Are 'No-Fail' Grading Systems Hurting or Helping Students?

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What's a kid gotta do to get an "F" these days?


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Edward H (45)
Monday April 27, 2009, 3:54 pm
Why not just give all the students an "A" for a grade? Oh, or better yet, let's just not send them to school/give them an education...look at the money that will be saved and how no one will be able to claim that children from higher income families have better education opportunities than kids from lower income families. This way too, the kids won't feel bad and have to see psychiatrists. Look at all the bullying that will stop! We can become just one big melting pot of uneducated, inadequately prepared, socially inept individuals...of course, the children will still qualify to become there is hope for employment...

Gillian M (218)
Monday April 27, 2009, 4:12 pm
In the UK they receive a 'U' for ungraded. Children who are not allowed to fail do not cope well in the real world when they leave school. They rarely redo a year and go on to the typical drop out way of life which, if they are lucky, could be working in a shop or warehouse. If unlucky, they end up in prison.

The problem arises in society, those who have no education usually can't see the point of it for their children as they have managed without it. What they do not appreciate is that education will help their children out of the poverty trap. There are also many damaged children who come from abused or dysfunctional families who do not want to be there and are unable to learn. Schools do not have the facilities to deal with many of these children as they are underfunded and often untrained and unable to deal with the problems.

Nancy L (141)
Monday April 27, 2009, 4:28 pm
That's right...let's give them nothing to strive for.

Stan B (123)
Monday April 27, 2009, 5:28 pm
Edward this stupid process started about 25 years ago and since then standards have been dropping steadily to the point now where many students leave school virtually illiterate. This is despite the fact that governments have been pouring billions into the system to try to stop the rot without the least success.
What Gillian said above is very true. There is no such thing as failing; just give everyone a certificate regardless.
Thanks Edward.

Past Member (0)
Monday April 27, 2009, 5:30 pm
I believe the no fail system hurts the students. To fail the grade if you could not pass it worked for several generations and gave the students a reason to do better in their classes. If a student, or anyone for that matter, can still get ahead without trying, that is what they will do.

Kit B (276)
Monday April 27, 2009, 6:32 pm
Once again the "Politically Correct" group has won out, leaving in its wake students that learn nothing substantial from years at school. Failing is a real part of life, it will happen to each of us, whether the grade actually demonstrates failure or not. The problem we have to overcome is a generation of parents that can't handle the reality of their children being "average" or goofs -offs that don't really mind failure. Schools respond to societal pressures, and the pressures these days are for everyone to be a winner. A unrealistic goal and not one that helps prepare these students for real life.

. (0)
Monday April 27, 2009, 6:33 pm
I agree with y'all. School is supposed to prepare children for adult life in the real world. And in the real world my boss doesn't care if I was able to master 40% of my job if I screw up the other 60%. And if we have a court filing deadline, I'm not going to be given extra time to do the work if I get lazy and fail to complete the work by deadline. And my boss has the power to hand out the ultimate "F" - which stands for FIRED.

For children who have no form of handicap which must be taken into account, holding them to high standards is the best thing we can do for them. Perhaps some newfangled new-age "educator" considers that may evilly cause the lower performers to develop low self-esteem; however, I think that self-esteem should be the result of good actions, right choices, and real accomplishment rather than something which is merely given as a reward for being alive.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday April 28, 2009, 9:24 am
Let's abolish "Political Correctness", it makes no sense anyway, it's just an excuse to ignore the obvious.

Jessica Robinson (210)
Tuesday April 28, 2009, 11:54 am
When you give students grades they do not earn you harm the whole process of putting forth and effort and trying to make themselves better off. Give someone something long enough and they refuse to work for anything else!

Edward H (45)
Tuesday April 28, 2009, 1:36 pm
It seems to me if we change "grades" to "hard work and income", we now have the socialistic agenda of Braak Braak Obama and the Democrats: "Don't work hard for your money, we'll give it to you."
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