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TomCat S (127)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 1:25 am
With all the dishonest Republican propaganda spewing from the pit about how bad, unfair and expensive the new insurance exchanges will be, I decided to do a little poking around at our local exchange to discover if it is as bad as Republicans are claiming.

Jim Phillips (3247)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 1:55 am
G o p pukes will do everything to undermine Affordable Care Act.
Look at how many times they have tried to overturn it in Congress.
37 times and each time to vote to overturn it has cost over a million dollars.
We need to give the Affordable Care Act a chance, an opportunity to work and to
resolve problems as they arise.

Ty, Tom.

Carol H (229)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 3:35 am
thanks Tom, noted

Gloria picchetti (304)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 4:04 am
Health care in the US? Who has it?

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Wednesday July 10, 2013, 6:03 am

Beverly T (82)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 6:38 am
Some of you know I live in Perryland, Loonexas, Repukeville, or whatever you feel free to call it except positive or caring.
I recently actually qualified for County Health Services which is a sliding scale thingy and me without a slide or a scale is much appreciative. HOWEVER...
Why the Republicans think it is better for the County to carry the load of my medical bills as opposed to the U.S. Gov (Medicaid) paying for my bills is beyond me. I mean yes they want the Gov OUT of everything but, I think it's deeper than that.
My next thought is that they probably then have more CONTROL over what SERVICES or QUALITY of care I will get with this method. That concept again places me among the TERRIFIED as it is apparent to everyone how little regard Republicans have for people in general and females in particular.
Right now though, I have to confess I am grateful for whatever they feel like handing out me.

Winn A (179)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 6:49 am
Vote all republicans out of office in every state at every opportunity.

Carlene V (202)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 7:36 am
As their Cadillac healthcare is fully paid for by the rest of us they live in the land of "I've got mine" . Big insurance pays their bills and puts millions into repub campaign coffers so heck no they'll fight Obamacare even while making complete fools of themselves. Those foolish enough to believe them will continue to fight their own best interests. And another thing, if Obamacare somehow works out the kinks and is really a success for Obama, they tear their hair out on national television.

Gene J (290)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 7:53 am
Minnesota is running its own exchange too, Tom. Mnsure. The only people who will be "harmed" by it are a few Insurance company CEO's because the sorry fools now have to spend 80% of their premiums on actual HEALTH CARE, not executive salaries and perks. We'll have fewer uninsured, though we will still have some, and this is only one step on the way to single payer which the rest of the advanced nations of the world already have. Michael Moore's excellent documentary, Sicko, proved years ago how beneficial that is to the world at large. We spend more than $8000 per capita, three times what other nations do, with poorer outcomes and lower life expectancy and we still have 50 million uninsured Americans. Other nations spend a third of what we do per capita and insure everyone. And they like it. Who wouldn't? Except republicans, of course, but since they are biologically classed as a substrata of humanity, I don't really care what they think since I know their nature requires them to revere money over everything else including health - other than their own, of course. Like any bug, they'll scurry away from a squashing foot, if they see it coming, fortunately they aren't all that bright either, so sooner or later we'll have the same outstanding health care other nations already enjoy. We'll just have to squash a few bugs on our way to that goal.

Terrie W (798)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 9:33 am
Sigh......still sittin here dreamin about........Finland...... :)

Deb E (63)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 10:58 am
The premium costs are actually a bit better than Medicare, since Medicare doesn't really have a maximum spent on healthcare limit. Medicare is a 20% co pay ... period. At least ... that is what I have been led to believe. And the premium isn't much more, monthly, than what Medicare premiums are at. I've kicked myself a million times for moving from Oregon in the 80s ... 3 years ago, I woke up though, and got myself back home. I am SO glad that the girl in the first video did not rhyme Oregon with "long" lol

Maggie Kearns (7)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 11:53 am

Birgit W (160)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 3:36 pm

Beverly T (82)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 4:19 pm
I wonder if I can post ? Since today at about 3 pm I can not log in or at least it shows me unlogged in. This connection is through my e-mail, Outlook, to this page from where I was sent a star by a member. I have even tried Chrome but no luck.singing in, When I usually connect to Care2 through an article the only thing that does not work is sending stars. Now NOTHING WORKS as I am LOCKED OUT of Care2 unless of course this works. Still, what a mess !!!! Some one please contact Eric for me and maybe for others for others as well.

Beverly T (82)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 4:21 pm
Oh my it posted and it shows that I AM NOT LOGGED IN !!!!!
Not sure if I should laugh and say yippee !!! or not.

Beverly T (82)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 4:36 pm
Here's maybe a clue.....It said it was tri9ng to open the link to Facebook and that failed.
Personally I do not have a Facebook account but I do believe that I did NOT uncheck Facebook connection which usually PREVENTS me from posting my comment until unchecked. Just saying.
I have NO access to my profile, messages or anything of that nature.
one opoup reads " C:\DOCUME~1\Beverly\LOCALS~1\Temp\E3KJN8NG.php.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read. Try again later, or contact the server administrator.

The other popup could not be read except it was a trying to open some link and then the above popup covered the rest. LOL
I'll try posting this and see if I can capture more about the first popup with this posting.

This might be embarrassing, but I do not know what else to do or what other information MIGHT HELP ???
bit lost here..

Jim Phillips (3247)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 5:56 pm
Additional note:
I had forgotten about the single payer format, plan.
I would have preferred Dennis Kucinich's Single Payer Health Plan (H.R. 676)


Lynn Squance (235)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 8:14 pm
Oregon leads the way in the US, but thank you very much, I'll stay here in BC!

There seems to be so much misinformation out there, of course promoted by the Republicanus/Teabagger party. And of course, the delay in the implementation of one part of the ACA has the Republicanus/Teabaggers strutting like bloody peacocks. I was listening to Jay Carney explaining the delay. Perhaps had the GOP tried to help instead of hinder the rollout, there might not have been a delay. Apparently one senate democrat said he thought there should be no delay.

PS I like the video! I hope his guitar is OK since he actually had it in the water at one point!

Edith B (146)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 8:58 pm
About a month ago, I spent six hours in the ER with my mother. When the bills came in, she owed $2000 for the ambulance, it was 10 minutes from the hospital, and $5000 to the hospital. They did blood work and a CAT scan. Luckily, my dad belonged to the UMWA and she only had to pay five dollars. If she had no insurance, she would be bankrupt from that one trip. Why do the Repubs think this is ok?

roxy H (350)
Thursday July 11, 2013, 1:20 am
I am surprised and very happy to see the Oregon post here, Thank you for the Bump for Oregon :)))) .. The one state that is actually trying to do the right thing in so many ways. They are fighting for it too. Thanks so much for the extra help! Love OR! (am a fan)

TomCat S (127)
Thursday July 11, 2013, 2:55 am
Thanks everyone!

Beverly, that sounds bass ackwards, but I'm so glad you're covered. Care2 is notorious for such craziness, but it's worth it. The solution is usually wait and try later.

Deb, did you have to regrow the webbing between your toes?

Kudos to Gene

Lona G (67)
Thursday July 11, 2013, 5:22 am
Noted. I can't get used to the fact that Oregon is called 'ahead' in healthcare insurance for something that's been around in many countries in Europe (and Canada, I believe) for decades. We all pay about the same amount for basic care and more for extras, depending on your income. Younger people, who are generally healthier, in this way contribute to the elderly or chronically ill. I've seen some Care2 members call us socialist nations, which seems to be a derogatory term in the US. For us the word has the same meaning as in 'social media': we share, in health and wealth.

David C (108)
Thursday July 11, 2013, 9:21 am
of course isn't Oregon also the state willing to pay for college, too????

A good smart foreward thinking state!

Jim Phillips (3247)
Thursday July 11, 2013, 11:16 am
I believe I have found it.
This link and certified pdf document looks very familiar to me.
Have a read.

***** PDF H.R. 676

Kathleen R (138)
Thursday July 11, 2013, 11:43 am
noted & read

Mitchell D (86)
Thursday July 11, 2013, 1:14 pm
Edith, the Repugs think this is ok because they are supported by the Insurance industry, have been for ages.
We certainly need a single payer system, but the Fat Cats can't get fatter, not like they'd like to, with that.

We are in a feed back loop, in which the Fat Cats use their profits to fund the politicians who will help them get obscenely fatter, who, in turn, whore themselves out to do more of the Fat Cats' work; and so it goes! This is the form of America that the Conservatives want to conserve. Anybody hurt by this system gets called bad names, and the buy into it, not recognizing that their own real income is dwindling, along with that of anyone but the Fat Cats'.

Beverly T (82)
Thursday July 11, 2013, 2:45 pm
Round about not by the direct route at all, I am far but show logged out everywhere but a couple of "sections" of Care2 and seem to be able to use them.
The things that are totally missing is credits, thanks, butterfly this or that. ANYTHING that has to do with rewards or awards. It's like they tried to fix the daily reward credits and really really SCREWED it up. LOL

Glad to be able to be here (so far) even without credits cause my friendships and associates are really what I come here for.

See ya'll around !!!! ( I hope, I hope, I hope)

TomCat S (127)
Friday July 12, 2013, 1:12 am
Thanks everyone.

Nona, Europe does it far better.

Well said, Mitchell.

Hang in there Beverly!

Jim Phillips (3247)
Friday July 12, 2013, 11:27 am
HR 676, Conyers-Kucinich bill, establishes Medicare for all. (Mar 2007)

A not-for-profit health care system is not only possible, but HR676, the Conyers-Kucinich bill, actually establishes Medicare for all, a single-payer system and itís a not-for-profit system. Itís time to end this control that insurance companies have not only over health care but over our political system.

Weíre being told here today to buy into a view of the world which says that, well, you know, but the insurance companies run the system. Weíll work out competition between the insurance companies & maybe weíll have government subsidize the insurance companies. Where is our call for greatness?
Iím talking about a real deal for the American people, a universal single-payer not-for-profit Medicare for all. Itís already into legislative form. 62 members of Congress have signed on. Over 14,000 physicians have signed on. We can do this. Break the hold of the insurance company on our health care system and lift the American people out of poverty. Thatís what my presidency is going to be about.

Source: SEIU Democratic Health Care Forum in Las Vegas Mar 24, 2007
Google search
HR 676, Conyers-Kucinich bill,+Conyers-Kucinich+bill&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

John Conyers is from Michigan.

Excellent Videos of Dennis Kucinich discussing HR 676 with John Conyers & Michael Moore in background.
I can't believe that this bill, HR 676, is still being discussed, considered and in play for almost ten (10) years.

Pamela Snook (24)
Saturday May 3, 2014, 9:29 am
Well, we now know CoverOregon was a disaster. And so is the mental health care here. I know there is funding going in. I don't see services coming out.
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