Start A Petition

Remembering the Fallen Heroes


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: editorial, GOP Crimes, peace, video )

TomCat
- 1900 days ago - politicsplus.org
See 1st comment



   

We hate spam. We do not sell or share the email addresses you provide.

Comments

TomCat S (124)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 1:59 am
Forty-four years ago today, Richard Nixon and the Republican Party committed a horrid crime against the people of the United States and murdered four of them in cold blood. Please join me in remembering these fallen heroes and all who put life and limb in jeopardy through their opposition to the Vietnam War.
 

Lynn Squance (235)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 2:23 am
When I think of Kent State, I immediately think of the Holly Near song which you can hear at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CadP4dRemYk

Here are the words:

CHORUS:

IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME, BUT INSTEAD IT WAS YOU
SO I'LL KEEP DOING THE WORK YOU WERE DOING AS IF I WERE TWO
I'LL BE A STUDENT OF LIFE, A SINGER OF SONGS
A FARMER OF FOOD AND A RIGHTER OF WRONG
IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME, BUT INSTEAD IT WAS YOU
AND IT MAY BE ME DEAR SISTERS AND BROTHER
BEFORE WE ARE THROUGH
BUT IF YOU CAN WORK FOR FREEDOM
FREEDOM, FREEDOM, FREEDOM
IF YOU CAN WORK (LIVE, DIE, SING) FOR FREEDOM I CAN TOO

VERSE:
STUDENTS IN OHIO 200 YARDS AWAY
SHOT DOWN BY NAMELESS FIRE ONE EARLY DAY IN MAY
SOME PEOPLE CRIED OUT ANGRY YOU SHOULD HAVE SHOT MORE OF THEM DOWN
BUT YOU CAN'T BURY YOUTH MY FRIEND
YOUTH GROWS THE WHOLE WORLD ROUND

CHORUS;
IF YOU CAN DIE FOR FREEDOM I CAN TOO

VERSE:
THE JUNTA BROKE THE FINGERS ON VICTOR JARA'S HANDS
THEY SAID TO THE GENTLE POET ;PLAY YOUR GUITAR NOW IF YOU CAN;
VICTOR STARTED SINGING BUT THEY BROUGHT HIS BODY DOWN
YOU CAN KILL THAT MAN BUT NOT HIS SONG
WHEN IT'S SUNG THE WHOLE WORLD ROUND

CHORUS:
IF YOU CAN SING FOR FREEDOM I CAN TOO

VERSE:
A WOMAN IN THE JUNGLE SO MANY WARS AWAY
STUDIES LATE INTO THE NIGHT, DEFENDS THE VILLAGE IN THE DAY
ALTHOUGH HER SKIN IS GOLDEN LIKE MINE WILL NEVER BE
HER SONG IS HEARD AND I KNOW THE WORDS
AND I'LL SING THEM UNTIL SHE'S FREE

CHORUS:
IF YOU CAN LIVE FOR FREEDOM I CAN TOO

For me, it is impossible to forget those times. In Canada, the Vietnam War was not that close mainly because we were not fighting in it. But there was a social consciousness that began emerging in the late 60's and early 70's, and it is still living on today.
 

Terrie Williams (798)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 5:50 am
Thank you, Cat Man.
 

Katie & Bill D (107)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 8:33 am
Yes I remember that day too! Awful!
Thank you TomCat
 

P A (117)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 8:33 am
You are right TC, all are worthy of honour – God bless them all. Although a child at the time, I recognised that picture instantly, those poor innocent students!
 

pam w (139)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 9:01 am
So many ruined lives, thanks to that ''war.'' And for what purpose?
 

Arielle S (313)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 9:21 am
We owe a great deal to those students - the outrage over those deaths was the beginning of the end to a bad war (and aren't most all of them "bad"?) We still had morals and ethics back then - I wonder if we still do?
 

Joanne Dixon (37)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 10:03 am
Freedom Riders and Viet Nam war protesters share an anniversay, and both anniversaries are in the same month as Memorial Day. How sadly appropriate. Thank you for remembering and helping us not to forget.
 

Pat B (354)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 11:31 am
I too, remember this day like it was yesterday. They are not forgotten, NOR will they ever be.
 

Deb E (63)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 11:44 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfOx2AQOW1A
 

Chris C (152)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 12:05 pm
I lost some friends - beautiful, young men - in that God-awful war! I remember it well! The friends that I had that didn't die there were forever changed!
 

Avril Lomas (0)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 12:35 pm
Hi TC. a little different comment BUT I feel absolutely appropriate.
re. the recurrent noise re. BEN GHAZI. Lindsey Graham ,this week , called the President a " re.according to him and REPUG friends the "botched Benghazi explanation " Scum bag"
and of ISSA is once again emoting and "investigating"(and costing the taxpayers millions.!)
Whilst I firmly believe that the lives of Ambassador Hill and three others is a tragedy,I also think that the lives of 5,000 + members of the armed services who were killed ,plus the members who are now seriously disabled,along with the 100,000 plus Iraqi,s also killed,are of equal importance.!. These people perished thanks to the bald faced lies of the Bush administration,Bush, Cheney, Rumsfelt, Rice et al. If Mr Graham wishes to pass judgement on the Obama administration , I should like to hear his thoughts comments etc. on that "conflict. ( reading beneath the lines itheir motivation becomes clear!.(why we did it")SCUMBAGS INDEED!
Go for it Darryl. !
ps Don,t hold your collective breaths!
 

Mandi T (367)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 1:09 pm
Never forgotten.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 1:44 pm
my best friend’s mother-in-law makes $89 an hour on the laptop . She has been without work for 8 months but last month her pay check was $15861 just working on the laptop for a few hours. go right here,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

****************************************

>>>>> www.jobs75.com

****************************************
GO TO THE SITE AND NEXT WEB PAGE FOR MORE INFO AND HELP
 

David C (75)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 2:56 pm
thank you, tom....and spam flagged, too
 

Robert K (31)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 3:13 pm
While it was Nixon who created the situation, it was Jim Rhodes who gave the orders to the Ohio National Guard and is directly responsible for the murder of the students.
 

Robert K (31)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 3:15 pm
"So many ruined lives, thanks to that ''war.'' And for what purpose?"

Well, it isn't a big deal in the lives of most, but my near fatal experience made me aware of the stupidity of offensive war. It did take a while for it to sink in though.
 

Jim Phillips (3247)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 3:21 pm
I remember that day as the memory of it, Kent State, has been burned in my brain.
i was living in Yellow Springs, Ohio and attending Wright State University & Antioch College, only a few miles from Kent, when the news of Kent State came over the wires. I have never forgotten where I was when I first heard the news.

There were many friends I had at the time and we were all very worried about the
draft and being called up to go to Vietnam. Dark days... Talk of going to Canada to avoid the draft.

The Kent State incident should never have happened!
It galvanized an increase in protesting an end to Vietnam war.

Remember Madison, WI...
Madison Antiwar protests May 5, 1970
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwkqkXG7fac

Remembering the Sterling Hall bombing in Madison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4q5MRG-5hg

History: UW-Madison Campus Voices: Bombing of Sterling Hall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSrrUO6uywk

The march on the Pentagon... Images:
http://www.google.com/search?q=march+on+the+Pentagon&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=PrNmU7qqOu3IsASXsoD4BA&ved=0CC8QsAQ

Holly Near is an awesome singer and the song brought back more memories...

"it Could Have Been Me (Live)"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CadP4dRemYk

I still play her songs and my favorite album of Holly Near is "Edge".

What a day - down the old memory lanes... in YouTube.

ty, tc.
.
 

Kate K (215)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 3:27 pm
I remember it as well and now have the song that Crosby. Still , and Nash wrote about ti as I occasionally do. It was a hard time indeed. Such turmoil in those days.
 

Yvonne White (229)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 4:37 pm
"Four Dead in Ohio"..and the dumb-a$$ RepubliCONs want to equate THAT with BenGhazi?! Freakin' Shimkus sent me aa announcement that the RepubliCONs were going to commission a Real Investigation into the Sept. 11, 2012 incident (flash back to Clinton era wastefulness)..so I wrote back: " Why not do a REAL Investigation of the September 11, 2001 "terrorist" attack the killed thousands of people??? Do you Really believe some Moslems with boxcutters hijacked 4 planes?????
Why would CONGRESS cut Embassy funding & then blame Hillary for ONLY 4 people getting killed??
The Republican Party is a Joke! "
If I'm "disappeared" remember me...;)
 

Gloria H (88)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 5:30 pm
meaninfull to me because I was in college at the time. could have happened to any of us!
 

Phil P (94)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 5:39 pm
Kent State was one of the blackest days in our democratic history. The treatment of the Occupy Wall Street protesters is another. And we'll see more of these incidents and worse actions if the Republicans and right-sing nut jobs have control of our government.
 

Clare M (80)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 6:07 pm
Noted :-( What a waste of life. Never Forget!
 

Hartson Doak (39)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 7:02 pm
The Kent State martyrs gave their blood to end the Viet Nam war. These four souls gave their all. The tyranny of the Federal government was confronted. We won that one and got out of Nam. But, sadly the war goes on. There was a peace song, called the Universal Soldier. Boils down to, if it is wrong do not do it. The Guards stooges that pulled the triggers are the ones that were wrong. I hope they NEVER again had a good nights sleep.
 

Shawna S (45)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 8:45 pm
The guilty will die knowing they're guilty...the innocent died knowing they were not.
RIP.
Thanks Tom.
 

Debra G (0)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 8:50 pm
I remember... Those were trying times, confusing, scary, tearing the fabric of the country like nothing since the Civil War. There were haunting photos aplenty (the child burned naked by napalm, the Vietnamese soldier shooting the VC soldier in the temple point blank...)
 

Edith B (146)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 8:58 pm
I can't believe it has been 44 years since that awful day. I cried all day, wishing I had been there with them to show my support for their courage. Many were condemned for protesting our so called police action when they were exercising their rights as US citizens. I, too, honor those who served and wish they had not been treated so poorly when they returned. I will never like Jane Fonda for her actions, she may be honored as one of the most important women of our time by others, but what she did to those soldiers who were held captive was not honorable in any way.
 

Lloyd H (46)
Sunday May 4, 2014, 11:15 pm
Truly a sad day. I always remember May 4, 1974, my sophomore year at Gonzaga U., when Tricky Dick came to Spokane for the opening of Expo'74, college students did not shall we say give him a warm reception. I will always remember my military history professor, aka the head of the ROTC, yelled down from his office at me and three of my friends as we headed off campus with a big banner that we had better not be going to insult the President. When we turned around he got all red, apologized and shut his window. He could pick me out of a crowd by my waist long red hair, but I was surprised that my friends were laughing out loud. I had know the three of them for two years, but had no idea who their parents were. come to find out their fathers were the US Ambassador to Columbia, a 5 Star General US Army and the other's father was a 5 Star Admiral USN who just happened to be the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Some times you just never know, but at the time it struck me that the new generation was not the same as the last.
 

Fran F (116)
Monday May 5, 2014, 12:02 am
I will always remember the huge nationwide campus demonstrations campus after May 4, 1970, as well as May 15, when two students were killed by police at Jackson State, a predominantly black college in Mississippi, for protesting the war.
 

Ingo Schreiner (8)
Monday May 5, 2014, 12:35 am
noted
 

TomCat S (124)
Monday May 5, 2014, 12:58 am
Thanks everyone. Like Fran said, the Kent State four were not the only protestors to die for their opposition to the war. Jackson State was another. I saw police kill a girl in the demonstration at the Democratic Convention in Chicago, 1968. She was offering them a flower just a few feet away from me. They laid her head open with long batons. That was the only time I ever reacted violently during a demonstration. They beat me unconscious. I woke up in a holding cell.
 

Barry AWAY T (936)
Monday May 5, 2014, 6:51 am
Ronald Reagan was governor of California at the time. He was told that 4 protesters were killed at Kent State and did he have any reaction. His answer was "Well, it's a start."

He was a mean and creepy man.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday May 5, 2014, 9:04 am
I'm sure many people think that this sort of thing only happens in third world countries half way around the world. Yet it happened right HERE in the USA. Shooting down unarmed people for protesting.

Noted - Great story - thanks for posting it.
 

James Maynard (84)
Monday May 5, 2014, 12:30 pm
Remember seeing it on the
national news and thinking
"what the hell has happened
to my country!"
 

Kit B (276)
Monday May 5, 2014, 4:40 pm

Eleven days after Kent State --- Jackson State.

On May 14, 1970, a group of student protesters against the Vietnam War, specifically the United States invasion of Cambodia, were confronted by city and state police. Shortly after midnight, the police opened fire, killing two students and injuring twelve.[1] The event happened only 11 days after National Guardsmen killed four students in similar protests at Kent State University in Ohio, which had first captured national attention.

A group of around a hundred African-American students had gathered on Lynch Street (named after John R. Lynch), which bisected the campus, on the evening of Thursday, May 14 to protest the United States invasion of Cambodia during the Vietnam War.[2] By around 9:30 p.m. the students had started fires, thrown rocks at white motorists and overturned vehicles, including a large truck. Firefighters dispatched to the scene quickly requested police support.

The police responded in force. At least 75 Jackson police units from the city of Jackson and the Mississippi Highway Patrol[3] attempted to control the crowd while the firemen extinguished the fires. After the firefighters had left the scene, shortly before midnight, the police moved to disperse the crowd then gathered in front of Alexander Hall, a women's dormitory.

Advancing to within 50 to 100 feet (15 to 30 m) of the crowd, at roughly 12:05 a.m., officers opened fire on the dormitory.[4] The exact cause of the shooting and the moments leading up to it are unclear. Authorities claim they saw a sniper on one of the building's upper floors and were being sniped in all directions. Later two city policemen and one state patrolman reported minor injuries from flying glass,[5] and an FBI search for evidence of sniper fire was negative.[6] The students say they did not provoke the officers. The gunfire lasted for 30 seconds, and at least 140 shots were fired by a reported 40 state highway patrolmen using shotguns from 30 to 50 feet. Every window on the narrow side of the building facing Lynch Street was shattered.[5]

The crowd scattered and a number of people were trampled or cut by falling glass. Phillip Lafayette Gibbs, 21, a junior, and James Earl Green, 17, a senior and miler[5] at nearby Jim Hill High School, were killed; twelve others were wounded. Gibbs was killed near Alexander Hall by buckshot, while Green was killed behind the police line in front of B. F. Roberts Hall, also with a shotgun.
Copied from Wiki
 

TomCat S (124)
Tuesday May 6, 2014, 1:23 am
Thanks all!
 
Or, log in with your
Facebook account:
Please add your comment: (plain text only please. Allowable HTML: <a>)


Track Comments: Notify me with a personal message when other people comment on this story


Loading Noted By...Please Wait

 


butterfly credits on the news network

  • credits for vetting a newly submitted story
  • credits for vetting any other story
  • credits for leaving a comment
learn more

Most Active Today in US Politics & Gov't





 
Content and comments expressed here are the opinions of Care2 users and not necessarily that of Care2.com or its affiliates.

New to Care2? Start Here.