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A Close Win for Bernie


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: bernie, Campaign 2016, debates, hillary, video )

TomCat
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TomCat S (125)
Friday February 5, 2016, 12:39 pm
Last night I watched one of the best debates I have ever seen. It was hard fought from beginning to end. If you missed the debate last night, I have the complete video and transcript for you I think Hillary was the winner on foreign policy, but Bernie was the winner on domestic policy and the economy. This is how much.
 

Joanne D (37)
Friday February 5, 2016, 12:44 pm
I haven't watched it or read it yet. I understand more are being scheduled, though. If PBS has one next Thursday, as their schedule now reads, I may watch it. I absolutely agree with you that tone is very, very important, especially at this stage, but really, all the way up to November, and beyond. And I'm glad to have your opinion that Bernie remained gracious, which I value highly. One huge strength of the Obama presidency has been his ability to remain gracious in the face of probably the worst barrage of hatred that any President has ever had to endure.
 

JL A (281)
Friday February 5, 2016, 12:44 pm
Thanks for your perspective TC, which is similar to what WA Po and others had to say. And Bernie outraised her in Jan., too.............
 

Roger G (148)
Friday February 5, 2016, 1:24 pm
voted for the "I had no clue" because I thought that with all of media coverage Trump would be first on the Republican side and truly believe Bernie would also come first for the Democrat side..
My prayers are still for Bernie to win NH but it seems the media coverage for Hillary "pawn of bankers" Clinton is saturating people's minds..
 

Carrie B (306)
Friday February 5, 2016, 1:51 pm
Best debate ever! Loved it!
 

TOM T (247)
Friday February 5, 2016, 2:27 pm
Scary Stuff ! UNBELIEVABLE !!
 

Walter F (128)
Friday February 5, 2016, 3:10 pm
Bernie still has a long way to go.Let's hope he can maintain the momentum .He has to beat Hilary.
 

Rose Becke (141)
Friday February 5, 2016, 3:42 pm
Go Bernie
 

divergent r (309)
Friday February 5, 2016, 4:03 pm
have not seen it yet
waiting for a non distracted window
tough these days
tyTc
 

Winn A (179)
Friday February 5, 2016, 5:29 pm
Thanks TC
 

Pat B (356)
Friday February 5, 2016, 5:55 pm
Agree with you on all points, Bernie is the winner in my book!

Thank you, Tom for in-depth analysis of the debate.
 

Edith B (146)
Friday February 5, 2016, 9:03 pm

I believe she thought she had it locked up and is rattled at how well Bernie is doing. Glad he was gracious to her, which is more than can be said of her towards him.

 

Arielle S (313)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 6:06 am
Did I see that Hillary's poll ratings have gone down since the debate? She keeps insisting Bernie's plans cannot work...an empty judgement in my opinion. Few expected Bernie to get this far.... people should never under-estimate the power of older people :)
 

divergent r (309)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 6:29 am
Read most of the transcript
maybe need to watch their body language to see the truth
Read that if elected Bernie will be the oldest man to ever take office
SINGLE PAYER HEALTHCARE SHOULD BE HIS THING ,,,,,, duh ;)
 

David C (75)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 6:40 am
while I love Bernie, I believe your summary or closing in not accurate or is ironic......I agree that Hillary was clearly more aggravated and frustrated on debate night, he has been playing the anger game all the way until now.....and while it plays well with the younger crowd and '"disenfranchised" I am hearing many good Democratic voters here in MN ( and a few relatives in CA) who now feel they either have no candidate (will hold their nose and vote for primary winner in the general) or feel their head and heart are disconnected
 

David C (75)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 6:41 am
PS still my favorite political commentator not named Rachel Maddow, Stephanie Miller or Norman Goldman
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 7:21 am
There's truth--there's pure fiery from the heart passion for justice---there's integrity---there's only one candidate that can't be bought---there's only one candidate who pines for and wishes to spend what's left of his life for, in a fight to return true 1776-style democracy to the US---there's one who is dedicated to returning "We The People's" rights and liberties---one who knows it's perhaps our last chance to unite in an earnest effort to save what's left of Earth and all living and knows he's the only candidate with the pure conviction to address and lead the way---on all critical topics, Bernie Sanders is that soul and only fresh breath of political air. Then, there's Hillary who is a well-rehearsed, political "song and dance" routine, without every good and natural quality that Bernie possesses. Thanks TC. From New Hampshire, where all the action is--and we don't toss coins, anything or anyone when deciding who the honest winner is.
 

Lona Goudswaard (66)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 7:48 am
Thanks for the video, TomCat, but even more for the analysis as I won't have time to see it in its entirity. If the debate had gone any differently, that would have meant that Hillary had gone through quite a transformation and that that would have been unreal. You can take a candidate out of Wall Street but you can't take Wall Street out of a candidate, or something like that.

That Bernie didn't score all that well on foreign policy didn't surprise me - for example I don't agree with his position on Israel, although I can understand where it is coming from - but as a foreigner that is something that has my full attention. Hillary seems to hide her hawkishness a bit these days, but I believe it to be no more than that: hiding. And like many others it seems, I don't think she's really going to reign in Wall Street, not when she makes it into the White House.
 

Roberto MARINI (88)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 8:47 am
Thank you for sharing
 

Nita L (127)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 8:52 am
I agree with your comments TC. Hillary is much better on foreign policy but Bernie is the winner on domestic issues. She did seem very angry and/or frustrated through much of the debate. She was even patronizing during some of the debate.
 

Terrie Williams (798)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 9:39 am
Bernie won it, even with his Foreign policy weakness (which I don't see as a weakness). Her Majesty, Queen $hillary is loosing it in more ways than one. The Corporate Whore is not convincing the people because the people see her for what she is.....that amuses me. May she crash and BERN. :)
 

Donna G (42)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 1:03 pm
I do not see Bernie's views on foreign policy as a weakness. I have followed him and Hillary for some time now. Hillary is a Conservative Democrat. She is funded by the wealthy and corporate America. Bernie is not. If you want endless wars, corporate welfare, and the President listening to Wall Street instead of Main Street, then Hillary is your man; I mean, woman. She is the best option for the Republicans.

I believe that Bernie will chose a different path which will benefit Main Street; not, Wall Street. He is already talking about a constitutional amendment to end Citizens United. Hillary isn't.

I learned my lesson with our current President. I do not want to make the same mistake with our next President and that's why I will not vote for Hillary.
 

Lynn Squance (235)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 1:10 pm
I haven't had a chance to watch the debate yet but I'll take your word. If Hillary gets bent out of shape with a debate, and Bernie remains calm and gracious, who do you think will do better under fire in the White House?

Go Bernie!
 

TomCat S (125)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 2:12 pm
Thanks all. Hugs. Stars all around.

Dave, the difference is the Bernie's anger is directed atr the status-quo, noy al Hillary. Hillary;s anger is directed at Bernie.

Donna, I don;t think Bernie would be bad at foreign policy, but he hasn't fully defined his policies yet. Hed also graciously admitted that Hillary is more knowledgeable anout foreign policy than he is.
 

Angelika R (143)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 4:33 pm
I think Marc Ash put it best in a recent piece:

"For those who see the dream of a government of, by, and for the people trampled upon by the world’s wealthiest individuals, Mr. Sanders’ direction is oxygen to a dying democracy.

Mr. Sanders’ opponents say in essence that they can more efficiently conduct the train. Mr. Sanders says, “Stop the train.”

Indeed the time has come.

For President, the Honorable Senator from the great state of Vermont, Bernie Sanders. "

Amen! That is it in a nutshell.
 

Marianne R (78)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 4:36 pm
Thanks
 

Janet B (0)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 6:02 pm
Thanks
 

Terre P (0)
Saturday February 6, 2016, 8:52 pm
Keep it going, Bernie!
 

Sandra Penna (135)
Sunday February 7, 2016, 4:53 am
Go, Bernie!
 

TomCat S (125)
Sunday February 7, 2016, 11:33 am
Thanks all!! Go Bernie!!
 
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