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Open Thread - 9/1/2017

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Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown). If you would like me to send you cards with links to my articles, add me as a friend.


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Pat B (356)
Friday September 1, 2017, 3:18 pm
KO: dt is a madman, with his treachery, and treasonous activities since he became potus. He's a disgrace, and I certainly hope that with this investigation(s), that he is removed..!!...and 'run out of town on a rail'. He deserves it. BTW....dt is supposed to come back to TX tomorrow, Saturday, but, I have to clean my cats litter boxes then, and will be very busy with that. lol

LW: Sweet!!! This is awesome news!!! The hole is getting bigger and bigger....

DK: Lordy, one thinks they've heard the outrageous, but oops...there it is!!

Cartoon: Yep, that pretty much says it right there!

We're in the mid 90's in the day, and 60's in the evenings. Pretty comfortable for me. Sorry about the heat wave up where you're at. Hope you get a chance to R&R, take care, and Thanks, Tom.


Ted W (127)
Friday September 1, 2017, 3:33 pm
Noted, forwarded and shared ultra-liberally across four networks!!!! RESIST!! Thanks for sharing, TomCat-try to stay cool!!!

JL A (281)
Friday September 1, 2017, 3:55 pm
He can't pardon for state level offenses and I just read that Mueller is coordinating with NY's AG related to real estate and other portions that happened in NY (which includes Manafort's issues).
Today areas got over 110--but breezes arrived to help clear out some of the wildfire smoke (dangerous air quality for everyone level) and tomorrow may top out for me (higher in the valley--especially northern parts of the valley) at 106

Kathleen M (210)
Friday September 1, 2017, 3:58 pm
Noted. This has got to be THE most corrupt admin in history! Thx for sharing TC.

Peggy B (43)
Friday September 1, 2017, 4:54 pm

Joanne Dixon (37)
Friday September 1, 2017, 6:25 pm
5:06 Frankly, those dead heads look a lot more presentable than those of irises - but the irises are prettier to start with, so there's that.

Climate change update: not pretty ...

Keith # 115 - While we are speaking of signals, few days after the Arpaio pardon was announced, it also "leaked" that Mueller is sharing information with Schneidermen. This is considered to be sending a signal to Trump that, hey, you can't pardon charges filed by the States, you can only pardon for "crimes against the United States" - Federal chanrges, in other words. And, while we are speaking of Federal charges, Contempt of Court may not be a Federal charge, for reasons laid out in an article I have linked previously. The Arpaio pardon has been submitted by Arpaio's attorneys to the court which convicted him. It has not yet been accepted. It may be accepted, but it may not.

Lawrence - Well! Lawrence mentioned Schneiderman! And how New York charges would affect the power to pardon! Good for him!

DKos - Real academic counselors have been saying for years - to my certain and personal knowledge, since 1991, and probably before that - whatever you do, don't go near DeVry.

Cartoon - That seems a bit advanced for most Republicans.


David C (80)
Friday September 1, 2017, 6:31 pm

Animae C (507)
Friday September 1, 2017, 6:37 pm

Katie & Bill D (107)
Friday September 1, 2017, 6:59 pm
Thank you for the great article and Keith O.
Mueller is doing a good job, GET THEM GET THEM,ALL
Thank you TomCat


Mitchell D (82)
Friday September 1, 2017, 7:01 pm
KO: Following Keith’s logic, I picture Rumpy being swallowed by an orange rimmed, hugely huge, black hole! It’s name is “INFAMY!”
TLW: Manaforte as an unknowing FBI mole? Wonderful!
DK:Why would anyone be surprised by this? This is Rumpy at his “best!”

Sheila D (28)
Friday September 1, 2017, 7:38 pm
3:24. #115: "O, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive". dt has dug himself a hole that will be nigh on impossible to dig himself out of, even if he pardons everyone around him.
Our education system is being destroyed, one nail at a time.
The cartoon makes a good point.
We're expecting our "heat event" to last through next Friday: 107 today, 110 expected tomorrow. Plus we have smoke from at least three of the fires burning north of us.
Thanks for the post, TomCat.

Glennis W (393)
Friday September 1, 2017, 9:30 pm
The weather is playing havick everywhere Hope it cools down for you soon Take care and rest well when you can Have a great weekend. Thank you for caring and sharing TomCat

Colleen L (3)
Friday September 1, 2017, 9:55 pm
Love the cartoon. It's been 100 in my area for the past two days. Tomorrow it's suppose to get hotter, The humidity is what's making it hard for me. Zaps my energy. Thanks TomCat

Lona G (66)
Friday September 1, 2017, 11:24 pm
Keith Olbermann #115: If I had a dollar for every time I heard or read of someone say “Now that Trump has done this…” or “If Trump will do this”…”then surely the Republicans will have to instantly decide whether they are going to risk their political careers or whether they are going to impeach him,” I’d be rich by now. Because every time Republicans do risk their political careers and stick by him. They have stuck by him when Drumpf pardoned Arpaio against the background of hurricane Harvey landing in Texas so the news programs would have high ratings, so pardoning the whole deplorable Russian conspiracy bunch won’t change that either. It looks like nothing Drumpf does directly affects the GOP, only when Drumpfs actions finally accumulate in a public revolt will the GOP cut itself lose from the monster they’ve created.

TLW: It would be too ironic if it came down to the IRS to make Humpty Dumpty fall and none of his WH staff or the GOP could put him together again.

DK: Dear Betsy has done very well in the eyes of Drumpf: she’s taken Drumpf’s list of qualifications and taken those qualities relevant for this job out and underscored them. Next she found a candidate who just the right amount of defrauder qualities to head an agency responsible for policing fraud and protecting students and taxpayers. Well done, girl, Drumpf is so proud of you.

Cartoon: I would have thought a Republican weathercock would always point in the same direction with the wind steadily blowing from the extreme right and/or Russia…

Ed Site Issues V (198)
Saturday September 2, 2017, 2:53 am
Noted, Thanks

Nita L (127)
Saturday September 2, 2017, 5:47 am
Thank you TomCat.

Gloria picchetti (304)
Saturday September 2, 2017, 6:14 am
Whatever it takes just get rid of Trump!

Barb SiteIssues V (202)
Saturday September 2, 2017, 6:19 am
Noted, Thank you

Winn A (179)
Saturday September 2, 2017, 9:50 am
Thanks TC

Janis K (129)
Saturday September 2, 2017, 11:41 am
Thanks for sharing.

TomCat S (127)
Saturday September 2, 2017, 12:20 pm
Thanks all. Hot Pooped hugs!

Lynn Squance (235)
Saturday September 2, 2017, 12:58 pm
Puzzle — 4:22  I wonder if these are edible.

YouTube — “A wholesale campaign of obstruction of justice, a full octane White House cover-up.  Proof of his guilt in these cases might prove to be utterly unnecessary.” — Not “Proof … might prove to be utterly impossible.”.  In other words, there is enough proof to likely convict Drumpf, but his own actions (pardons) would make that route unnecessary. 

I also find the wording in Sater’s email interesting — “Our boy can be president of USA and we can engineer it.  I will get all of Putin’s team to buy in.” — Is Drumpf being manipulated by Sater and friends for their own ends?  Drumpf as the unwitting participant?  Or is Drumpf totally complicit with the plan?  I lean with the latter.  I don’t think Drumpf would be an unwitting participant because he wants power, money and ego stroking glory, and to admit unwitting participation would mean he was deceived and is stupid.  He’d not like that because after all, Drumpf is the great deal maker.  Just ask him.

The Last Word — I think a Sir Walter Scott quote works well to describe the situation: “O what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.”  I think it highly likely that Manafort, and maybe Sater, rolled over on Drumpf and there are some very intelligent financial investigators sleuthing things out.  When all is said and done, I just hope that there are no deals made with Drumpf as the ‘shit hits the fan’.

Daily Kos — “Donald Trump … will be appointing the former dean of a for-profit college that paid a $100 million fraud settlement in December, to oversee the agency responsible for policing fraud and protecting students and taxpayers. ” — The fox is in the hen house!  Further proof of Drumpf deepening the swamp and having really poor decision making skills, or DeVry has some dirt on him.  Drumpf’s whole team, in my opinion, is a group of cronies out for their own gain.  I’ll stop there because otherwise my comment will devolve into numerous ‘4 letter’ words and not be fit to print.

Cartoon — Republican science!

Resist, Persist and Remove!!!

Sorry I’m late to the party.  I kept falling asleep last night at my keyboard, and then slept in this morning.  Having said that, I had a damn fine sleep.  Like Portland, we have  a heat warning — 33 C (91 F) — and we also have an air quality warning from forest fires in BC now the wind direction has changed from south west to east.  I could feel the stinging in my eyes yesterday.

Janet B (0)
Saturday September 2, 2017, 7:53 pm

Lona G (66)
Saturday September 2, 2017, 8:25 pm
With all the Gerrymandering, voting (or rather 'voter') restriction law, voter enrollment "purging" and the like, one would think the Republicans weren't in need of any help from Russia to win the presidential election. But they obviously didn't want to take any chances and accepted any help they could get. The fact that many of the 21 states which were told their election systems were under attack by the Russian hackers never bothered to do any serious investigating of the problem, really tells us a lot.

From the reports most investigations were undertaken in Democratic hot spots by Democrats which then found Democratic votes seriously compromised. The Republicans weren't so eager to find these "malfunctions" and that really begs the question why not. Wouldn't it have been logical to blame the Democrats for the hacking - in the tradition of Republicans always blaming Democrats for everything? But they didn't, so they must have known the hacking was in their favor. But if they didn't investigate much, how would they have known? Just extrapolating the problems indicated by those Democratic investigations? Perhaps that's all it took. 🤔

And now they're very happy to keep it that way, it seems. Most of the 21 states didn't investigate either before the election or after it, or didn't do much with the findings if they did, probably hoping that new elections will lead to the same favorable outcome for the Republicans. Americans must insist on a complete overhaul of the election system in those 21 states, and preferably in more, but seeing that Republicans benefit from Russian intervention and are willing to accept more if that helps to secure their seats, it'll have to come mostly from the left. As usual.

TomCat S (127)
Sunday September 3, 2017, 1:21 pm

Dawnie W (250)
Wednesday September 6, 2017, 12:53 am
💙💚💜Noted...Great Jigsaw. Thanks for the article.

💚💙💜Thank you...TomCat.💙💜💚

💚😉💜ღ 💙Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ😺💜L💙ve, Hugs and Peace go with you all💜😺Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ ღ💙😉💚
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